Taxpayers Could Pay Trump $1.5 million a Year to Protect His Family

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/25/politics/secret-service-trump-tower/index.html


The US Secret Service is considering renting one floor in Trump Tower to protect President-elect Donald Trump and his family by turning it into a 24-7 command post, a law enforcement official told CNN Friday.

According to Jared Horowitz, who is with Newmark Grubb Knight Frank and responsible for available commercial space at Trump Tower, the floors available to rent with the average floor office space running between 13,500 square feet to 15,500 square feet cost about $1.5 million a year.

The law enforcement official says the current plans for security at Trump Tower would differ if the future first family were living at the White House full time and Trump's wife Melania and their son Barron were not staying behind in New York City through the Spring.

Once the Trumps live at the White House full time the USSS will have to reassess what kind of a security presence will be needed at Trump Tower, depending on how often Trump and his family return to New York City.

The official says this kind of planning is typical for the Secret Service after every election but "what is unordinary is that the President Elect lives on 5th Avenue."

What is also unprecedented is that the building is owned by the Trump Corporation so the USSS would be renting the space from Trump's company for protecting him and his family.

[enhanced_deficit]

That seems high, can't they find a better way using less of tax payers monies?
Perhaps eleminate spending elsewhere if can't trim this cost.

Obama's $195 Million Aid Package for Al Qaeda-Led Syrian Rebels
Aug 8, 2013

[FSP-Rebel]

That seems high, can't they find a better way using less of tax payers monies?
Perhaps eleminate spending elsewhere if can't trim this cost.

Obama's $195 Million Aid Package for Al Qaeda-Led Syrian Rebels
Aug 8, 2013

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[Anti Federalist]

Well, seeing as how he is not drawing a salary, that brings it down to $950k.


Since 2001, the president has earned a $400,000 annual salary, along with a $50,000 annual expense account, a $100,000 nontaxable travel account, and $19,000 for entertainment. The most recent raise in salary was approved by Congress and President Bill Clinton in 1999 and went into effect in 2001.

[Anti Federalist]

C'mon Zip...weaksauce...you can do better.

$1.5m is chump change in the fedgov budget.

Obama spent 10 times that much just for his Nantucket vacations.

[tod evans]

How much does golf course security run now?

[enhanced_deficit]

C'mon Zip...weaksauce...you can do better.

$1.5m is chump change in the fedgov budget.

Obama spent 10 times that much just for his Nantucket vacations.

Let's wait till media investigations are completed and all the facts come out.

Report: Price of Obama getaways $70 million so far, and counting ...
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article50172810.html
Dec 17, 2015

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[69360]

When you put it in perspective, it's not much really. I don't like Trump, but there are better things to fret over.

[nikcers]

When you put it in perspective, it's not much really. I don't like Trump, but there are better things to fret over.



Trump Says He'll Refuse Salary If Elected President (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwj5x72i3cnQAhWEVyYKHRAMAnIQFggeMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.snopes.com%2Ftrump-refuse-salary%2F&usg=AFQjCNF14YCOmCo_LaXGmQHxRS99Nt-XXQ&bvm=bv.139782543,d.eWE)

$1.5 million a Year renting the space from Trump's company for protecting him and his family.



well when you put it into perspective.

[Zippyjuan]

If he doesn't need the money he should let the Secret Service have the space for free in exchange for protecting his family. Potential conflict of interest if he is profiting from the deal.

[Suzanimal]

Let's quit paying for security for any of them...

http://i.imgur.com/iYesARi.png

[oyarde]

C'mon Zip...weaksauce...you can do better.

$1.5m is chump change in the fedgov budget.

Obama spent 10 times that much just for his Nantucket vacations.

I cannot believe they can do it for 1.5 million , I cannot even under bid that . That is chump change for govt.

[Brian4Liberty]

If he doesn't need the money he should let the Secret Service have the space for free in exchange for protecting his family. Potential conflict of interest if he is profiting from the deal.

And then you would post a story about the "outrage" over Trump Inc taking a deduction for lost revenue on the space.

[Anti Federalist]

And thus endeth this thread.



Let's quit paying for security for any of them...

http://i.imgur.com/iYesARi.png

[AZJoe]

For perspective, remember how Zippy was outraged that Michelle Obama's 2013 Hawaii Christmas vacation trip alone cost taxpayers over $8 million. http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-secret-service-expenses-for-obamas-2013-hawaii-christmas-vacation-cost-taxpayers-316698-03-taxpayers-paid-over-8-million-for-17-day-vacation/

Her Africa trip cost nearly as much at $7.8 million; Their Ireland vacation $7.9 million. http://www.newsmax.com/TomFitton/National-Debt-Travel/2015/08/24/id/671575/

Joe Biden spent a total of $585,000 of taxpayer money for one night in a London hotel: http://www.investors.com/joe-biden-update-european-hotel-bills-total-one-million-dollars/?ntt=joe+biden+hotel+bill

Obama's day trip to San Diego costs taxpayers $1 million in flight expenses alone: http://www.dailywire.com/news/2819/so-how-much-has-all-obamas-vacations-cost-james-barrett

And lets not forget the $3.1 billion per year of taxpayer money given to fund Netanyahu's syndicate. Just end that single foreign welfare package and we recoup the security expenses 2,066 times over per year.

More on Obama family vacation costs: http://www.judicialwatch.org/obamas-vacations/
http://www.investors.com/politics/andrew-malcolm/obama-vacation-expenses-already-exceed-70-million-dollars/
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article50172810.html

[nikcers]

For perspective, remember how Zippy was outraged that Michelle Obama's 2013 Hawaii Christmas vacation trip alone cost taxpayers over $8 million. http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-secret-service-expenses-for-obamas-2013-hawaii-christmas-vacation-cost-taxpayers-316698-03-taxpayers-paid-over-8-million-for-17-day-vacation/

Her Africa trip cost nearly as much at $7.8 million; Their Ireland vacation $7.9 million. http://www.newsmax.com/TomFitton/National-Debt-Travel/2015/08/24/id/671575/

Joe Biden spent a total of $585,000 of taxpayer money for one night in a London hotel: http://www.investors.com/joe-biden-update-european-hotel-bills-total-one-million-dollars/?ntt=joe+biden+hotel+bill

Obama's day trip to San Diego costs taxpayers $1 million in flight expenses alone: http://www.dailywire.com/news/2819/so-how-much-has-all-obamas-vacations-cost-james-barrett

And lets not forget the $3.1 billion per year of taxpayer money given to fund Netanyahu's syndicate. Just end that single foreign welfare package and we recoup the security expenses 2,066 times over per year.

More on Obama family vacation costs: http://www.judicialwatch.org/obamas-vacations/
http://www.investors.com/politics/andrew-malcolm/obama-vacation-expenses-already-exceed-70-million-dollars/
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article50172810.html

Remember when Obama campaigned on not wasting taxpayer money, I don't. Where did you get your member berries from, Russia?

[Zippyjuan]

For perspective, remember how Zippy was outraged that Michelle Obama's 2013 Hawaii Christmas vacation trip alone cost taxpayers over $8 million. http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-secret-service-expenses-for-obamas-2013-hawaii-christmas-vacation-cost-taxpayers-316698-03-taxpayers-paid-over-8-million-for-17-day-vacation/

Her Africa trip cost nearly as much at $7.8 million; Their Ireland vacation $7.9 million. http://www.newsmax.com/TomFitton/National-Debt-Travel/2015/08/24/id/671575/

Joe Biden spent a total of $585,000 of taxpayer money for one night in a London hotel: http://www.investors.com/joe-biden-update-european-hotel-bills-total-one-million-dollars/?ntt=joe+biden+hotel+bill

Obama's day trip to San Diego costs taxpayers $1 million in flight expenses alone: http://www.dailywire.com/news/2819/so-how-much-has-all-obamas-vacations-cost-james-barrett

And lets not forget the $3.1 billion per year of taxpayer money given to fund Netanyahu's syndicate. Just end that single foreign welfare package and we recoup the security expenses 2,066 times over per year.

More on Obama family vacation costs: http://www.judicialwatch.org/obamas-vacations/
http://www.investors.com/politics/andrew-malcolm/obama-vacation-expenses-already-exceed-70-million-dollars/
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article50172810.html

Yes, those were cases of taxpayer money being used but the money did not go directly into his pocket. Trump would get both the cash and the benefit.

[UWDude]

Yes, those were cases of taxpayer money being used but the money did not go directly into his pocket. Trump would get both the cash and the benefit.

The idiocy of this statement. So, as long as you spend the money lavishly, it doesn't go into your pocket.

You are still losing, chump. Every time you post, you lose more.

[AZJoe]

Remember when Obama campaigned on not wasting taxpayer money, I don't. Where did you get your member berries from, Russia?

Must agree with nikcers that nikcers dear Obama did make lots of promises to waste lots of money, and of course he certainly did succeed in wasting lots of money. Nevertheless, wantonly wastefully spending lots of taxpayer money on himself is still a bad thing. It doesn't become a good thing or get a free pass just because the Obama promised to wastefully wantonly spend.

[AZJoe]

Yes, those were cases of taxpayer money being used but the money did not go directly into his pocket. Trump would get both the cash and the benefit.

That is a valid point, however at this stage it is still mere speculation. We need to see how it plays out.
Considering he is waiving presidential salary (making him the 3rd president after Hoover and JFK to do so) he could waive the rent space if he is sole owner, discount it to cost only, or even cover it himself if he is part owner.

[nikcers]

Must agree with nikcers that nikcers dear Obama did make lots of promises to waste lots of money, and of course he certainly did succeed in wasting lots of money. Nevertheless, wantonly wastefully spending lots of taxpayer money on himself is still a bad thing. It doesn't become a good thing or get a free pass just because the Obama promised to wastefully wantonly spend.

I don't even get what you were trying to say was it something like this?


Must agree with nikcers Obama did succeed in wasting lots of money. Nevertheless spending lots of taxpayer money on himself is still a bad thing. It doesn't become a good thing or get a free pass just because Obama

[mrsat_98]

How much does golf course security run now?

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to tod evans again.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to tod evans again.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to tod evans again.

[euphemia]

That would be about half the cost of one Obama vacation. Keep it up Zippy. Your guy has very expensive tastes.

[juleswin]

$1.5 million for 1 year sounds like a yuuge saving. I remember hearing about the millions it cost for Obama to go see a theatre show in New York city for 1 day. I don't like govt spending and Trump but I can live with this $1.5 million for security for their family for 1 year.

[Seraphim]

Let's wait till media investigations are completed and all the facts come out.

Report: Price of Obama getaways $70 million so far, and counting ...
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article50172810.html
Dec 17, 2015

http://publisher.attn.com/sites/default/files/pizza1.png

This is actually the link that is being made between Obama and the pedophile ring in DC.

Why the hell would you fly hot dogs and pizza in from Chicago to DC? 65 grand ?!?! How does that make any sense!?

Now go look up the FBI's directory for pedo language and what hot dogs and pizza signify. NSFW.

[nikcers]

$1.5 million for 1 year sounds like a yuuge saving. I remember hearing about the millions it cost for Obama to go see a theatre show in New York city for 1 day. I don't like govt spending and Trump but I can live with this $1.5 million for security for their family for 1 year.

I'm pretty sure that figure is only what Trump is raking in, not the entirety of expense for one year of security for their family

[juleswin]

I'm pretty sure that figure is only what Trump is raking in, not the entirety of expense for one year of security for their family

Oops, thanks for the correction, I skimmed the article and didn't see that it was just the rent alone that was $1.5 million. I knew the number was ridiculously low for protecting a family in NY city where very thing costs 100x more than anywhere else.

[staerker]

(CNN)The US Secret Service is considering renting one floor in Trump Tower to protect President-elect Donald Trump and his family by turning it into a 24-7 command post, a law enforcement official told CNN Friday.

More fake sources from the fake news outlets.

[nikcers]

More fake sources from the fake news outlets.

Fake news? I've seen everywhere that they want to keep his wife and kid in New York.. are you just sticking your head in the sand now? I hate when the sand people post on here.

[69360]

well when you put it into perspective.

I'm still fine with it. I don't like Trump, but he did win the election fairly. Trump tower is his home. It doesn't bother me that the government pays fair market rate to Trump to rent space for the secret service to protect him.

I'm fairly sure Biden got paid by the government to rent property he owned next to his home to protect him as well.

[nikcers]

I'm still fine with it. I don't like Trump, but he did win the election fairly. Trump tower is his home. It doesn't bother me that the government pays fair market rate to Trump to rent space for the secret service to protect him.

I'm fairly sure Biden got paid by the government to rent property he owned next to his home to protect him as well.

Ok well we will just have to agree to disagree on whether or not Biden not being conservative with taxpayer money is a fair comparison on a Ron Paul website, where Trump supporters proclaimed Trump to be Ron Paul on steroids and even campaigned on the same message as Ron Paul not accepting a presidential Salary.

[staerker]

Fake news? I've seen everywhere that they want to keep his wife and kid in New York.. are you just sticking your head in the sand now? I hate when the sand people post on here.

CNN indisputably posts fake news (not all of their publishings, but in part.)

Why should I believe CNN's anonymous source? They fabricate lies all the time.

[Zippyjuan]

What was fake in the story or are you just "all news is fake"?

[nobody's_hero]

Damn it. I knew I should have voted for Hillary instead.

/sarcasm

[euphemia]

I would not snatch a young boy out of his home and school in the middle of the year. I have a feeling Trump knows how to get a lot done in a work day. Presidential families often spend weekends out of town. Trump can get home quickly on his own plane if he wants.

Nancy Pelosi kept a military plane and crew on hold every weekend when she was Speaker. She was very high maintenance.

[staerker]

What was fake in the story or are you just "all news is fake"?

CNN is citing their anonymous source, I'm saying that CNN has zero credibility, so any anonymous source has zero credibility.

The story may end up being true, I don't care either way, but in the interim it is not.

[juleswin]

Damn it. I knew I should have voted for Hillary instead.

/sarcasm

This is a dictionary definition of a non sequitur statement. The point of the OP isn't that you should have voted for Clinton instead, the point is that the Trump presidency is one enriching itself with the "housing" of his family's security force and two that he most likely would follow the tradition of wasteful spending my politicians in Washington

[silverhandorder]

Remember when Obama campaigned on not wasting taxpayer money, I don't. Where did you get your member berries from, Russia?

Too obvious you biased.

Yes, those were cases of taxpayer money being used but the money did not go directly into his pocket. Trump would get both the cash and the benefit.
10 billion vs 1.5 million.

[juleswin]

Too obvious you biased.

10 billion vs 1.5 million.

Shouldn't that number be $6 million for 4 yrs and 12 million for 8 yrs that is assuming that number doesn't increase. And why are you comparing cost of rent for the security of his family in NY for 1 yr to debt incurred over 8 yrs of running the country? isn't there a law against comparing apples to oranges?

Well, we would see how Trump would do with the debt seeing as how he has shown no interest in cutting the budget. My guess is that the debt would increase by $7-8 billion (not adjuested for inflation) after 4 yrs. But lets hope he proves me wrong.

[agitator]

This is outrageous!

[Zippyjuan]

Shouldn't that number be $6 million for 4 yrs and 12 million for 8 yrs that is assuming that number doesn't increase. And why are you comparing cost of rent for the security of his family in NY for 1 yr to debt incurred over 8 yrs of running the country? isn't there a law against comparing apples to oranges?

Well, we would see how Trump would do with the debt seeing as how he has shown no interest in cutting the budget. My guess is that the debt would increase by $7-8 billion (not adjuested for inflation) after 4 yrs. But lets hope he proves me wrong.

Don't you mean "$ trillion"?

[juleswin]

Don't you mean "$ trillion"?

My bad, I mean't to say trillions. You've got to forgive me, I am still reeling from the shock of the elections, my brain fart is going to see an increase for the next coming weeks :)

[eleganz]

I don't know, if Trump wants to spend most of his time outside of the white house, he should have to foot the extra bill. The government already provides the president his own place to live, anything else is a luxury.

[Zippyjuan]

I was hearing someplace yesterday that almost 1,000 Secret Service men (and women) are to be assigned to guarding Trump and his "extended family".

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3804129/Secret-Service-spent-1-6-million-flights-agents-protect-Trump-goes-reimburse-Donald-private-jet.html


Secret Service has spent $1.6 million on flights for agents who protect Trump – and it goes to reimburse The Donald for his private jet

The U.S. Secret Service has paid $1.6 million for air travel in the past year to a holding company owned by Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.

Agents who serve on Trump's 'protective detail' have to fly with the candidate, and the billionaire's unconventional campaign style extends to his travel choices.

Instead of renting a single plane and splitting the costs with Secret Service and media outlets – like Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton does – Trump has exiled reporters to a separate charter aircraft while he and his staff and security fly aboard his personal Boeing 757.

So when the bills come due, Secret Service isn't paying just any air charter company. It's paying TAG Air, Trump's company, which owns his 'Trump Force One' jet.