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AuH20
11-17-2016, 08:57 PM
http://libertyhangout.org/2016/11/has-neocon-purge-begun-john-bolton-allegedly-out-of-cabinet-consideration/

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phill4paul
11-17-2016, 09:01 PM
Good. Apparently when they floated this turd he sank.

Libertea Party
11-17-2016, 09:46 PM
http://libertyhangout.org/2016/11/has-neocon-purge-begun-john-bolton-allegedly-out-of-cabinet-consideration/

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Yay! Now we have to figure out a way to stop Guiliani. Interestingly a hardcore neocon wrote a hit job (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/11/15/the-alt-right-administration-with-shady-foreign-ties/?utm_term=.d5358554439c) against him so it makes me wonder...

Sola_Fide
11-17-2016, 09:48 PM
Whewwww.....now my faith in Trump is completely restored hahahaha

seapilot
11-17-2016, 11:23 PM
I read that the Grinch is out as well.

francisco
11-17-2016, 11:58 PM
http://libertyhangout.org/2016/11/has-neocon-purge-begun-john-bolton-allegedly-out-of-cabinet-consideration/

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If true, credit goes to Rand for diplomatically but forthrightly speaking out against both Bolton and Giuliani, phrasing the argument in terms of those potential cabinet nominees as being out of step with Trump's stated campaign FP positions. Pretty much the only Republican Senator to do so publically

Rand being on the bubble of only 51 or 52 Republican Senators is going to have some real power. Trump is probably seething inside with that prospect.

GunnyFreedom
11-18-2016, 12:11 AM
Good. Apparently when they floated this turd he sank.

Thank God.

GunnyFreedom
11-18-2016, 12:11 AM
If true, credit goes to Rand for diplomatically but forthrightly speaking out against both Bolton and Giuliani, phrasing the argument in terms of those potential cabinet nominees as being out of step with Trump's stated campaign FP positions. Pretty much the only Republican Senator to do so publically

Rand being on the bubble of only 51 or 52 Republican Senators is going to have some real power. Trump is probably seething inside with that prospect.

Would have never had the impact had he not stood up for Bannon.

GunnyFreedom
11-18-2016, 12:13 AM
Whewwww.....now my faith in Trump is completely restored hahahaha

It's easier when you start from zero. ;)

Athan
11-18-2016, 12:24 AM
Trump is probably seething inside with that prospect.

Oh come on. Rand can be quite the diplomat. He just needed to get over himself with the whole "he's a clown" thing. He was probably just upset at the time. I'm sure Rand can see opportunity to work with him unlike the neocons who are fvcking livid right now.

specsaregood
11-18-2016, 12:24 AM
It's easier when you start from zero. ;)
Maybe I should tweet trump, Glenn Bradley for secretary of state.

NewRightLibertarian
11-18-2016, 12:32 AM
It does seem like Trump wants these guys to accept his policies on Russia and Syria based on how it's been going. We will see if it yields good results. Bannon was a great choice and Flynn would be a solid choice if he accepts. I still expect some real turkeys in his administration though.

UWDude
11-18-2016, 02:16 AM
It does seem like Trump wants these guys to accept his policies on Russia and Syria based on how it's been going. We will see if it yields good results. Bannon was a great choice and Flynn would be a solid choice if he accepts. I still expect some real turkeys in his administration though.

Flynn is nothing special, but at least he is not a total warhawk.
I also expect there are going to be some real distasteful people, and some real acceptable people.

eleganz
11-18-2016, 02:25 AM
This being news less than 3 news cycle days after Rand came out firmly against Bolton.

timosman
11-18-2016, 03:33 AM
Good. Apparently when they floated this turd he sank.

Good thing it was not a floater.

A. Havnes
11-18-2016, 07:21 AM
If true, credit goes to Rand for diplomatically but forthrightly speaking out against both Bolton and Giuliani, phrasing the argument in terms of those potential cabinet nominees as being out of step with Trump's stated campaign FP positions. Pretty much the only Republican Senator to do so publically

Rand being on the bubble of only 51 or 52 Republican Senators is going to have some real power. Trump is probably seething inside with that prospect.

Don't sell yourself short! Maybe The Donald actually does care a little bit about what people think, and a lot of us were Tweeting him and his transition team in response to Bolton.

Then again, maybe this is just a rumor and Bolton is still headed for the White House.

scm
11-18-2016, 07:49 AM
Don't sell yourself short! Maybe The Donald actually does care a little bit about what people think, and a lot of us were Tweeting him and his transition team in response to Bolton.

Then again, maybe this is just a rumor and Bolton is still headed for the White House.

I'm starting to think that they are putting the worst of the worst out here first, so when they pick some shitty establishment hack, they can say "at least it wasn't X"

A. Havnes
11-18-2016, 12:08 PM
I'm starting to think that they are putting the worst of the worst out here first, so when they pick some $#@!ty establishment hack, they can say "at least it wasn't X"

Kind of like how sometimes when the writers of a TV show want to get away with something, they'll do something absolutely outrageous that the censors would never accept, fight for it, and then either change it to something not as crazy that the censors would have normally objected to (but at least it's not X!), or quietly sneak in something elsewhere.

nbhadja
11-18-2016, 12:17 PM
If true, credit goes to Rand for diplomatically but forthrightly speaking out against both Bolton and Giuliani, phrasing the argument in terms of those potential cabinet nominees as being out of step with Trump's stated campaign FP positions. Pretty much the only Republican Senator to do so publically

Rand being on the bubble of only 51 or 52 Republican Senators is going to have some real power. Trump is probably seething inside with that prospect.


Or maybe just maybe the report was never true in the first place....wouldn't be the first time the MSM makes up fake stuff.....in fact thats all they do.

Brian4Liberty
11-18-2016, 12:18 PM
If true, credit goes to Rand for diplomatically but forthrightly speaking out against both Bolton and Giuliani, phrasing the argument in terms of those potential cabinet nominees as being out of step with Trump's stated campaign FP positions. Pretty much the only Republican Senator to do so publically

Rand being on the bubble of only 51 or 52 Republican Senators is going to have some real power. Trump is probably seething inside with that prospect.

And perhaps the #NoBolton Twitter hashtag helped a bit... ;)

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?503793-Activism-Tweets-to-Trump

anaconda
11-18-2016, 12:25 PM
I read that the Grinch is out as well.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall for that one..

anaconda
11-18-2016, 12:26 PM
Good thing it was not a floater.

Anyone get the feeling that Trump is floating names only for the express purpose of humiliating them?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1G5LFmmEqg

nbhadja
11-18-2016, 12:27 PM
It's possible that none of the Gingrich, Rudy, Bolton, and Christie will be in his cabinet.... yet all the media reported was that they were the leading and favored to getthe high level posts. Hopefully we got 0 for 4 on those guys.

anaconda
11-18-2016, 12:35 PM
It's possible that none of the Gingrich, Rudy, Bolton, and Christie will be in his cabinet.... yet all the media reported was that they were the leading and favored to getthe high level posts. Hopefully we got 0 for 4 on those guys.

If they get invited to Trump Tower it's not just the media. So I guess the consideration of (or at least the favour of a personal explanation to the contrary) Ghouliani is legit. But hopefully Rudy hasn't given up his LifeLock daytime gig.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HoJGDq6uYM

anaconda
11-18-2016, 12:38 PM
It's possible that none of the Gingrich, Rudy, Bolton, and Christie will be in his cabinet.... yet all the media reported was that they were the leading and favored to getthe high level posts. Hopefully we got 0 for 4 on those guys.

The Son-In-Law got indulged to take out Krispy Creme.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-MUnnTt20w

AuH20
11-18-2016, 12:39 PM
It's possible that none of the Gingrich, Rudy, Bolton, and Christie will be in his cabinet.... yet all the media reported was that they were the leading and favored to get the high level posts. Hopefully we got 0 for 4 on those guys.

Quite possibly. Remember these stories?

http://www.salon.com/2016/10/31/donald-trump-already-knows-hes-going-to-lose-think-of-the-bunker-right-before-hitler-killed-himself/

randomname
11-18-2016, 01:47 PM
Did Rand just prevent World War III? :)

fcreature
11-18-2016, 02:13 PM
A big thank you to Rand and other freedom fighters who made serious commotion about this potential pick.

Shame on Trump for being interested in him in the first place.

alucard13mm
11-18-2016, 02:18 PM
Good. That malignant cunt looks like the it boss from the movie Casino

Seraphim
11-18-2016, 02:20 PM
Did Rand just prevent World War III? :)

The electoral college did in ensuring Clinton was not president.

UWDude
11-18-2016, 02:21 PM
A big thank you to Rand and other freedom fighters who made serious commotion about this potential pick.

Shame on Trump for being interested in him in the first place.

He never was. I told you all from the get-go. Bolton was never a serious consideration. It was media hype, and you still are eating it up.

You are judging trump for something you have absolutely no proof of, just the media's say-so.

fcreature
11-18-2016, 02:39 PM
He never was. I told you all from the get-go. Bolton was never a serious consideration. It was media hype, and you still are eating it up.

You are judging trump for something you have absolutely no proof of, just the media's say-so.

What do we have from you? Your "say-so"? Are you working within the transition team? There is plenty of evidence that he was a consideration. I know that you Trumpkins think that anything published in the MSM is automatically wrong, but that's just not the case.

He was a serious consideration, and as I said the public reaction would deem him not plausible. And it looks like that happened. Just as I said.

So I'll say it again. Thank you, Rand. Shame on you, Trump.

Campaign "leaks" are politics 101. Nothing I say to you is going to make you stop circle jerking Trump, but you are wrong.

UWDude
11-18-2016, 03:01 PM
I know that you Trumpkins think that anything published in the MSM is automatically wrong, but that's just not the case.

Yes it is. That is how I know. The MSM lies 100% of the time, and anything they write is agenda driven.

fcreature
11-18-2016, 03:07 PM
Yes it is. That is how I know. The MSM lies 100% of the time, and anything they write is agenda driven.

So nothing published via any MSM entities has any amount of truth in it. But I'm sure sources like Infowars, 4chan, and Breitbart are to be trusted.

Okay, right. This is why you can't be taken seriously.

Where is that unofficial list of approved sources again?

UWDude
11-18-2016, 03:15 PM
So nothing published via any MSM entities has any amount of truth in it.

It has truth in it, but it always leaves out parts of the story, and always has a broader agenda.



Okay, right. This is why you can't be taken seriously.


I've been right about a hell of a lot more than you, buck-o.

And you are trying to shame Trump for something you have no proof of, besides the say-so of the media. That means you are a media agenda stooge, which means you are going to be on the losing side over and over and over and over again.

fcreature
11-18-2016, 03:19 PM
And you are trying to shame Trump for something you have no proof of, besides the say-so of the media. That means you are a media agenda stooge, which means you are going to be on the losing side over and over and over and over again.

Let me ask, what would you consider proof? If the words came out of Trump's own mouth you would be in this thread telling us that's not what he meant or that it was taken out of context.

undergroundrr
11-18-2016, 03:21 PM
The MSM lies 100% of the time


It has truth in it

trumpie logic

UWDude
11-18-2016, 03:23 PM
Let me ask, what would you consider proof? If the words came out of Trump's own mouth you would be in this thread telling us that's not what he meant or that it was taken out of context.

trump says everyone is great. He just said the Clintons were great people on 60 minutes.
I have always gleaned truth through propaganda analysis. It has been the way I have separated fact from fiction for 5 or 6 years now.

UWDude
11-18-2016, 03:24 PM
trumpie logic

If you can't see how truth can be used to spread lies, you are lost.

undergroundrr
11-18-2016, 03:29 PM
If you can't see how truth can be used to spread lies, you are lost.

Are you kidding? trumpies excel at it. But I would never say they lie 100% of the time.

You type and you type and you type. And you keep stepping on your own toes.

UWDude
11-18-2016, 03:32 PM
Are you kidding? trumpies excel at it. But I would never say they lie 100% of the time.

You type and you type and you type. And you keep stepping on your own toes.

By making accurate predictions, like Trump will win, and there is no way Bolton will be on trumps cabinet, from the moment Bolton's name was mentioned. Not only that, I explained how I knew, and what the media strategy was.

Geeze, I am so embarrassed you guys were wrong, again, and I was right, again. There goes all my credibility, the un-credible say.

AuH20
11-18-2016, 03:33 PM
By making accurate predictions, like Trump will win, and there is no way Bolton will be on trumps cabinet, from the moment Bolton's name was mentioned. Not only that, I explained how I knew, and what the media strategy was.

Geeze, I am so embarrassed you guys were wrong, again, and I was right, again. There goes all my credibility, the un-credible say.

Bolton is anti-Russia. It didn't make any sense at the start.

Seraphim
11-18-2016, 03:35 PM
Yes it is. That is how I know. The MSM lies 100% of the time, and anything they write is agenda driven.

CNN and MSNBC in particular.

Megyn Kelly actually got into open conflict with Trump and yet finds herself reporting and opining in very balanced and unbiased ways.

They got in a room together and built a bridge.

From what I can tell she does not lie about Trump. She criticizes policies she does not like and gives credence to policies of his she likes. She has made it a point to stop guests on her show from lying or making hysterical accusations about Trump or his policies - or at least counters their points.

She does this all while admitting she thinks Trump may still be mad at her but that he has behaved in a way that shows he has gotten over their fight.

It's hard to say lol but Fox has become the more truth-ish brand of MSM.

As for Bolton and other jobs open in the admin..

Look at the sheer number of people being "considered" for positions. Do you really think giving Bolton an interview is an indication Trump is building around the establishment?

Bolton didn't get the job. The fact that Trump had a conversation with him does not mean Trump had any real intention of hiring him. Trump has been and will continue to have a lot of conversations with a lot of people - many of whom will not be people we hold favorably around these parts. That's the reality of what being President is.

A lot of the interviews and considerations are establishment types and people Trump and his people would like. The latter are being picked for the jobs more often then not and the "establishment" types have oft been dissenting voices against the Obama administration. Michael Flynn comes to mind.