Three things that make Donald Trump an honest President

[dude58677]

1) He has never held any public office nor any military background. Only president-elect/president to do so.

2) Won't take a Presidents salary. JFK and Herbert Hoover did this. George Washington considered it.

3) Proposing term limits for Congressman. Ron Paul and Rand Paul proposed this.

So what's wrong with that?

[dannno]

So what's wrong with that?

He's Hitler mwarblemwarblegarblegarble!!!

[r3volution 3.0]

Trump...honest

http://i.imgur.com/SYGwA97.gif

[dude58677]

How am I wrong?

[otherone]

How am I wrong?

Let's start with he isn't president.

[AuH20]

I don't want honesty. I want vengeance. D.C. is a cesspool and must be purified by any means necessary.

[undergroundrr]

I'll add that Ron Paul served in the military and held public office. Next.

[John F Kennedy III]

1) He has never held any public office nor any military background. Only president-elect/president to do so.

2) Won't take a Presidents salary. JFK and Herbert Hoover did this. George Washington considered it.

3) Proposing term limits for Congressman. Ron Paul and Rand Paul proposed this.

So what's wrong with that?

I don't see how any of the 3 makes him an honest president. In fact it's pretty easy to, by doing your own research, find him taking multiple stances on every issue from when the campaign started until now. I don't know what you want to call that, but here in reality, we sure the fuck don't call it honest.

[seapilot]

How am I wrong?

None of the 3 things listed is about his honesty. All it shows is he may not be as corruptible as most other politicians.

[nikcers]

I don't know why you guys are so mad at this Trump guy.

1.) He never had polio
2.) He won't bite kids
3.) He knows how to take a shower if you know what I mean.

[dude58677]

Ron Paul is the rate exception to that rule but most with that background are lining their pockets while in office.

A Statesman doesn't guarantee a libertarian platform but it is guaranteed to be a sincere platform. Plus it opens up a much larger pool of libertarians to become President instead of only a few in Congress and the Senate. There could be a lot of Ron Paul's out there that we don't know about that never ran for office.

[Mordan]

1) He has never held any public office nor any military background. Only president-elect/president to do so.

2) Won't take a Presidents salary. JFK and Herbert Hoover did this. George Washington considered it.

3) Proposing term limits for Congressman. Ron Paul and Rand Paul proposed this.

So what's wrong with that?


My take is that Trump is the alpha male that was ridiculed by those arrogant liberals and decided to Run for President. Like a smart man, like a great general, he plotted a strategy.
He saw Ron Paul being ignored by the media. He saw how Romney doesn't give a shit about Trump or Ron Paul. Trump saw that.
He trial a run in 2012 but because he is smart, he didn't see an opening. It was too soon. After 2012, he plotted some more and registered MAGA brand.
He polled the electorate and came up with immigration, security, obamacare.
He exposed the Media as corrupted shills.
He destroyed the Bushes.
He saw the Light.
He wants to drain the Swamp.
He triggered so many Liberals.
He is an alpha male who wants to write his name in the history books.

He is honest in his desire to do good. His ego requires it.

[phill4paul]

My take is that Trump is the alpha male that was ridiculed by those arrogant liberals and decided to Run for President. Like a smart man, like a great general, he plotted a strategy.
He saw Ron Paul being ignored by the media. He saw how Romney doesn't give a shit about Trump or Ron Paul. Trump saw that.
He trial a run in 2012 but because he is smart, he didn't see an opening. It was too soon. After 2012, he plotted some more and registered MAGA brand.
He polled the electorate and came up with immigration, security, obamacare.
He exposed the Media as corrupted shills.
He destroyed the Bushes.
He saw the Light.
He wants to drain the Swamp.
He triggered so many Liberals.
He is an alpha male who wants to write his name in the history books.

He is honest in his desire to do good. His ego requires it.

Does he taste salty?

[nikcers]

My take is that Trump is the alpha male that was ridiculed by those arrogant liberals and decided to Run for President. Like a smart man, like a great general, he plotted a strategy.
He saw Ron Paul being ignored by the media. He saw how Romney doesn't give a $#@! about Trump or Ron Paul. Trump saw that.
He trial a run in 2012 but because he is smart, he didn't see an opening. It was too soon. After 2012, he plotted some more and registered MAGA brand.
He polled the electorate and came up with immigration, security, obamacare.
He exposed the Media as corrupted shills.
He destroyed the Bushes.
He saw the Light.
He wants to drain the Swamp.
He triggered so many Liberals.
He is an alpha male who wants to write his name in the history books.

He is honest in his desire to do good. His ego requires it.

he said that a vote for Ron Paul would be a wasted vote and that he would run third party if Ron Paul was the nominee because "he doesn't even think in terms of Iran."

[LatinsforPaul]

My take is that Trump is the alpha male that was ridiculed by those arrogant liberals and decided to Run for President.

Donald Trump is an an arrogant liberal.

[GunnyFreedom]

Does he taste salty?

Why does Mordan keep feeding him pineapples?

[undergroundrr]

My take is that Trump is the alpha male that was ridiculed by those arrogant liberals and decided to Run for President. Like a smart man, like a great general, he plotted a strategy.
He saw Ron Paul being ignored by the media. He saw how Romney doesn't give a $#@! about Trump or Ron Paul. Trump saw that.
He trial a run in 2012 but because he is smart, he didn't see an opening. It was too soon. After 2012, he plotted some more and registered MAGA brand.
He polled the electorate and came up with immigration, security, obamacare.
He exposed the Media as corrupted shills.
He destroyed the Bushes.
He saw the Light.
He wants to drain the Swamp.
He triggered so many Liberals.
He is an alpha male who wants to write his name in the history books.

He is honest in his desire to do good. His ego requires it.

I've been looking for a good stain remover. What would you suggest?

[The Gold Standard]

I don't want honesty. I want vengeance. D.C. is a cesspool and must be purified by any means necessary.

I agree. Rudy G. will clean up the mess. Just give him a chance.

[Peace&Freedom]

he said that a vote for Ron Paul would be a wasted vote and that he would run third party if Ron Paul was the nominee because "he doesn't even think in terms of Iran."

Trump was talking strategically, as in he honestly didn't think Ron could have won the election if he got the nomination. Thus given his unelectability (in Trump's opinion), and his "weak" position on Iran, would make voting for him a wasted vote. He was sizing him up as a viable national candidate, not dismissing him as a person. We can disagree with him on the merits, but the point is to keep all the facets of evaluating political candidates in mind, not just the positions.

[dude58677]

None of the 3 things listed is about his honesty. All it shows is he may not be as corruptible as most other politicians.

Ok that is my point. He is NOT as corruptable. I never said that this is the ultimate goal but we are selling ourselves short by only looking for libertarians in public office. If non-politicians are going to start running for office don't we have a much larger pool to choose from?

[CCTelander]

SMGDH

[kpitcher]

Never knew we had so many people on this forum that can channel the actual inner thoughts of Donald Trump.

I hope these Trump savants made good money on the predictions market when he was the longshot.

[nikcers]

Trump was talking strategically, as in he honestly didn't think Ron could have won the election if he got the nomination. Thus given his unelectability (in Trump's opinion), and his "weak" position on Iran, would make voting for him a wasted vote. He was sizing him up as a viable national candidate, not dismissing him as a person. We can disagree with him on the merits, but the point is to keep all the facets of evaluating political candidates in mind, not just the positions.

Uh no, Trump was mad because Ron Paul mocked the idea of Trump moderating the debate would be like a gameshow. The idea was to rig the debate and therefore the primary. Then Trump attacks him for siding with Obama on the Iran deal, the neocon talking point they also attacked rand on. We learned from the wikileaks that the Iran deal was done already and they were just waiting for the ink to dry. Trump's son even said he decided to run for President because of the Iran deal.

[Origanalist]

1) He has never held any public office nor any military background. Only president-elect/president to do so.

2) Won't take a Presidents salary. JFK and Herbert Hoover did this. George Washington considered it.

3) Proposing term limits for Congressman. Ron Paul and Rand Paul proposed this.

So what's wrong with that?

http://thefw.com/files/2013/05/OhComeOn.gif

[RonPaulwillWin]

Yes, yes, and yes. I still continue to believe that Ron Paul will win. He has in a way, he will always be the person that I look up to and has changed my life. Yes, Trump has some authoritarian leanings, but he was the closest to all candidates on both sides, (with the exception of Rand of course, who was my first pick...it's just not his time, and he is a great asset to the Senate.) The_donald subreddit was powerful, just like these forums were in 2012 and especially 2008, but as most of us have learned, huge rallies and online support doesn't translate a large amount of votes. I had the fuzzy feels on election night, but one thing i've learned is not to get your hopes up, even though I knew Donald was going to win early on in the evening, I was still pessimistic, but I was so devastated with the voting results despite the money bombs, straw polls, fund raising, and memes that we pumped out. It's been 10 years for me. I fought hard for RP, and I still do, ...we have a long way to go, but I think this is a start. This thread brought one of the biggest smiles on my face on election night.


https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5bszzj/donald_trump_is_the_closest_thing_weve_had_to_ron/


One comment made me chuckle "Donald Trump is Ron Paul's Revenge on the Republican Party"

[Mordan]

Trump was talking strategically, as in he honestly didn't think Ron could have won the election if he got the nomination. Thus given his unelectability (in Trump's opinion), and his "weak" position on Iran, would make voting for him a wasted vote. He was sizing him up as a viable national candidate, not dismissing him as a person. We can disagree with him on the merits, but the point is to keep all the facets of evaluating political candidates in mind, not just the positions.

Listen to this man. 2015 accounts don't have much credibility.

[thoughtomator]

I hope these Trump savants made good money on the predictions market when he was the longshot.

So far, everyone who has bet on Trump succeeding has won yuuuuuge.

And everyone who bet against him is in some stage of mental breakdown right now, including the entirely self-interested barbarian wretches who masquerade as liberty activists.

[Mordan]

So far, everyone who has bet on Trump succeeding has won yuuuuuge.

And everyone who bet against him is in some stage of mental breakdown right now, including the entirely self-interested barbarian wretches who masquerade as liberty activists.

Trump is helping us destroy the media credibility. The biggest reason why Ron Paul lost. Media Propaganda.

[scm]

So what's wrong with that?

Those three things don't balance the 544,733,635,837 lies

[scm]

I agree. Rudy G. will clean up the mess. Just give him a chance.
He will send everything to china before anyone can ask any questions.

[thoughtomator]

Trump is helping us destroy the media credibility. The biggest reason why Ron Paul lost. Media Propaganda.

More than that, he has been the catalyst for the exposure of a lot more than the media - a whole host of bad actors have revealed themselves by their panicking and tantrums, including the GOP elite and their anarchist allies.

[scm]

More than that, he has been the catalyst for the exposure of a lot more than the media - a whole host of bad actors have revealed themselves by their panicking and tantrums, including the GOP elite and their anarchist allies.
Didn't wikileaks expose the media?

[PaulConventionWV]

Let's start with he isn't president.

President-elect? I mean, if that's the best you got...

[eleganz]

This OP is unreadable in movie trailer narration voice. Every pro-Trump thread must be readable in this way.

[Jbunker]

My take is that Trump is the alpha male that was ridiculed by those arrogant liberals and decided to Run for President. Like a smart man, like a great general, he plotted a strategy.
He saw Ron Paul being ignored by the media. He saw how Romney doesn't give a $#@! about Trump or Ron Paul. Trump saw that.
He trial a run in 2012 but because he is smart, he didn't see an opening. It was too soon. After 2012, he plotted some more and registered MAGA brand.
He polled the electorate and came up with immigration, security, obamacare.
He exposed the Media as corrupted shills.
He destroyed the Bushes.
He saw the Light.
He wants to drain the Swamp.
He triggered so many Liberals.
He is an alpha male who wants to write his name in the history books.

He is honest in his desire to do good. His ego requires it.

Ho-lee shit, I think I pulled a muscle cringing at this. I'm convinced you're a troll account. If you are, then you've done some brilliant Trump boot licker satire on here so touché I guess.

[otherone]

President-elect? I mean, if that's the best you got...

Best I've got? What does that mean?
What has DJT done as president that deserves praise or criticism?

[PaulConventionWV]

Best I've got? What does that mean?
What has DJT done as president that deserves praise or criticism?

The title of this thread is "3 things that make Donald Trump and honest president" (presumably speaking in a predictive sense, based on his past). Then you say, "let's start with he's not president." Well, he kind of is, so... ball's in your court. If you're trying to say all presidents must have held the office before in order to be evaluated as a potential president, then state that, because we're all grown-ups here and we know what "context" is. He's obviously talking about DJT's potential, not his actual record.

So, yeah, he's not president, but he's the president-elect. Your point being...? If you want to say he's wrong, you're not being very convincing so far.

[otherone]

So, yeah, he's not president, but he's the president-elect. Your point being...? If you want to say he's wrong, you're not being very convincing so far.

Don't have to be convincing. When he's president, we'll find out.

[PaulConventionWV]

Don't have to be convincing. When he's president, we'll find out.

/facepalm

You just tried to tell people how he's wrong. If the one biggest way in which he's wrong is that DJT is not president, the you're more wrong than he is.

Don't play coy. Be a big boy and rise above these stupid word games. Not technically being president at this very moment doesn't really amount to any measurable way in which what the OP said was wrong. What he said was perfectly reasonable to us, so it's on you to explain further your claim that he's wrong. If being president-elect rather than president is the biggest point you're making, then you have no point and why are you posting this?

[otherone]

/facepalm

You just tried to tell people how he's wrong. If the one biggest way in which he's wrong is that DJT is not president, the you're more wrong than he is.

Don't play coy. Be a big boy and rise above these stupid word games. Not technically being president at this very moment doesn't really amount to any measurable way in which what the OP said was wrong.

Word games? What has DJT done that makes you believe he's an honest president? You claim that that the OP is speculative based on past behavior. What past behavior does he include? For an "adult who understands context", you are missing the point.

[PaulConventionWV]

Word games? What has DJT done that makes you believe he's an honest president? You claim that that the OP is speculative based on past behavior. What past behavior does he include? For an "adult who understands context", you are missing the point.

I never said he's an honest president. I said you said he was wrong. He asked you to tell how he was wrong. You have not done so. I'm not going to interpret his post for you when you apparently tried to take on that task yourself by saying "let's start with he's not president." Tell us what you mean, don't make other people interpret it so you can just glibly nit-pick at stuff that other people bring up.

[otherone]

I never said he's an honest president. I said you said he was wrong. He asked you to tell how he was wrong. You have not done so. I'm not going to interpret his post for you when you apparently tried to take on that task yourself by saying "let's start with he's not president." Tell us what you mean, don't make other people interpret it so you can just glibly nit-pick at stuff that other people bring up.

My apologies. I thought my initial comment was self-evident. The OP makes a statement based on claims that have not come to pass. It is impossible to state he is an "honest president" because he has done nothing to demonstrate that. It is impossible to state he is a "dishonest president", or an "effective president", or any other claims about his presidency. He has done nothing as president. RPF is rampant with "speculation" that make claims as "facts". "3-D Chess", etc.
In regards to "making other people interpret" MY comments, why not ask the same of the OP? You seem willing to fill in the blanks for him...

[otherone]

I never said he's an honest president.

Is he an honest president? Is he a dishonest president?

[PaulConventionWV]

My apologies. I thought my initial comment was self-evident. The OP makes a statement based on claims that have not come to pass. It is impossible to state he is an "honest president" because he has done nothing to demonstrate that. It is impossible to state he is a "dishonest president", or an "effective president", or any other claims about his presidency. He has done nothing as president. RPF is rampant with "speculation" that make claims as "facts". "3-D Chess", etc.
In regards to "making other people interpret" MY comments, why not ask the same of the OP? You seem willing to fill in the blanks for him...

I believe your blanks to be larger, and your meaning more obscured since you apparently think the one sentence you posted was sufficient for us to be able to automatically figure out what line of reasoning you were engaging in.

[timosman]

Is he an honest president? Is he a dishonest president?

Stop with this honest/dishonest simpleton shit. This thread is a waste of space.

[presence]

So far, everyone who has bet on Trump succeeding has won yuuuuuge.

And everyone who bet against him is in some stage of mental breakdown right now, including the entirely self-interested barbarian wretches who masquerade as liberty activists.


If I were sent back in time and given the choice to either raise my sword and fight for Rome or for the barbarians...

without a doubt Roman heads would roll.

[Jamesiv1]

He was a good politician. Do anything, say anything to win. That's what the opponent is going to do. Fight fire with buttercups? No. Fight fire with fire.

He did that and guess what, he won.

We don't know yet what he'll do as President or whether or not he will be honest.

But I like what I've seen so far.

[Theocrat]

I don't see how any of the 3 makes him an honest president. In fact it's pretty easy to, by doing your own research, find him taking multiple stances on every issue from when the campaign started until now. I don't know what you want to call that, but here in reality, we sure the fuck don't call it honest.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSE-XoVKaXg

[timosman]

People who talk about honesty are usually full of shit.

[Superfluous Man]

Were JFK and Hoover honest?

Also, the president's salary is pocket change compared to how much Trump can affect his wealth and the wealth of his children through policy. People who think that he has no financial incentive to be president are ignoring the big picture.

Term limits is one of those things where Ron Paul supported it, but never saw it as a major issue I think. I don't see how supporting them tells us anything about Trump's honesty. Personally, I see positives and negatives to them. Term limits make all representatives and senators lame ducks who don't have to worry about voters any more, and just have to worry about getting cushy lobbyist jobs once their terms are up.

I don't even see why, as late as November of this year, anybody would still be trying to make a case for Trump being honest, after he's given us all such abundant proof that he's anything but that.