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timosman
11-13-2016, 04:30 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/13/us/politics/hillary-clinton-james-comey.html


By AMY CHOZICK NOV. 12, 2016


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Hillary Clinton on Wednesday in New York. On Saturday, she told donors that the F.B.I. director’s letter to Congress “stopped our momentum.” Credit Doug Mills/The New York Times

Hillary Clinton on Saturday cast blame for her surprise election loss on the announcement by the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, days before the election that he had revived the inquiry into her use of a private email server.

In her most extensive remarks since she conceded the race to Donald J. Trump early Wednesday, Mrs. Clinton told donors on a 30-minute conference call that Mr. Comey’s decision to send a letter to Congress about the inquiry 11 days before Election Day had thrust the controversy back into the news and had prevented her from ending the campaign with an optimistic closing argument.

“There are lots of reasons why an election like this is not successful,” Mrs. Clinton said, according to a donor who relayed the remarks. But, she added, “our analysis is that Comey’s letter raising doubts that were groundless, baseless, proven to be, stopped our momentum.”

Mrs. Clinton said a second letter from Mr. Comey, clearing her once again, which came two days before Election Day, had been even more damaging. In that letter, Mr. Comey said an examination of a new trove of emails, which had been found on the computer of Anthony D. Weiner, the estranged husband of one of her top aides, had not caused him to change his earlier conclusion that Mrs. Clinton should face no charges over her handling of classified information.


Her campaign said the seemingly positive outcome had only hurt it with voters who did not trust Mrs. Clinton and were receptive to Mr. Trump’s claims of a “rigged system.” In particular, white suburban women who had been on the fence were reminded of the email imbroglio and broke decidedly in Mr. Trump’s favor, aides said.

After leading in polls in many battleground states, Mrs. Clinton told the donors on Saturday, “we dropped, and we had to keep really pushing to regain our advantage, which going into last weekend we had.”

“We were once again up in all but two of the battleground states, and we were up considerably in some that we ended up losing,” Mrs. Clinton said. “And we were feeling like we had to put it back together.”

Presidential candidates have a long history of blaming forces outside their control for their losses. In 2004, John Kerry linked his defeat to a videotape of Osama bin Laden that appeared days before the election, stoking fears about terrorism. In 2012, Mitt Romney told donors he had lost because President Obama had vowed to bestow “gifts” on Democratic special interests groups, namely African-Americans, Hispanics and young people.

Mrs. Clinton’s contention appears to be more rooted in reality — and hard data. An internal campaign memo with polling data said that “there is no question that a week from Election Day, Secretary Clinton was poised for a historic win,” but that, in the end, “late-breaking developments in the race proved one hurdle too many for us to overcome.”

Mrs. Clinton lost narrowly in several battleground states, and by the time all ballots are counted, she appears poised to win the popular vote by more than two million votes.

Still, Mrs. Clinton’s instinct to shun any personal responsibility angered some Democrats. Several donors on the call, while deeply bitter about Mr. Comey’s actions, said they believed that Mrs. Clinton and her campaign had suffered avoidable missteps that handed the election to an unacceptable opponent. They pointed to the campaign’s lack of a compelling message for white working-class voters and to decisions years ago by Mrs. Clinton to use a private email address at the State Department and to accept millions of dollars for speeches to Wall Street.

“There is a special place in hell for Clinton staff, allegedly including Cheryl Mills, that okayed the email server setup,” Jim Manley, a Democratic strategist and former senior aide to Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, wrote on Sidewire, a social media site, referring to a longtime aide and lawyer to Mrs. Clinton.

Mrs. Clinton’s campaign was so confident in her victory that her aides popped open Champagne on the campaign plane early Tuesday. But that conviction, aides would later learn, was based largely on erroneous data showing that young, black and Latino voters and suburban women who had been turned off by Mr. Trump’s comments but viewed Mrs. Clinton unfavorably would turn out for her in higher numbers than they ultimately did.

Exit polls conducted by Edison Research found that among people who said they had decided in the final week before Election Day, 47 percent voted for Mr. Trump and 42 percent for Mrs. Clinton.

As early as Wednesday morning, aides began to explain to Democrats shaken by the loss that the campaign’s sophisticated data modeling had not taken into account the bombshell F.B.I. announcement.

Mr. Comey’s letters to Congress went against the F.B.I.’s longstanding tradition of avoiding decisions that could affect elections, but he told aides that he felt he had no choice because he had already weighed in on the case so publicly. In July, he had taken the unusual step of publicly announcing that the F.B.I. would not charge Mrs. Clinton.

At the time, she believed she had finally put the issue to rest. And after the final debate on Oct. 19 in Las Vegas, she emerged in such a strong position that she began to focus on campaigning for down-ballot Democrats and planned a campaign stop in traditionally Republican Arizona.

“We felt so good about where we were,” Mrs. Clinton told donors. Before Mr. Comey’s first letter to Congress, she added, “we just had a real wind at our back.”

Mr. Trump seized on the letter, telling voters in Nevada the Saturday before Election Day that “the F.B.I. has reopened its criminal investigation into Hillary Clinton,” and that the matter “would grind government to a halt” should Mrs. Clinton win the White House. The F.B.I.’s examination of the new emails did not in fact reopen the investigation.

Democratic pollsters attributed Mr. Trump’s laser-thin victories in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin — states that President Obama had won — largely to a drifting of college-educated suburban women to the Republican nominee at the last minute, because of the renewed focus on Mrs. Clinton’s email server.

“We lost with college-educated whites after leading with them all summer,” a Clinton spokesman, Brian Fallon, said on Wednesday. “Five more days of reminders about Comey, and they gravitated back to Trump.”

Before Mrs. Clinton spoke on Saturday, her finance director, Dennis Cheng, thanked the donors on the call, each of whom had raised at least $100,000. The campaign brought in nearly $1 billion to spend heavily on data efforts, to disperse hundreds of staff members to battleground states, and to air television advertisements — only to fall short to Mr. Trump’s upstart operation.

Donors conceded that, ultimately, no amount of money could match Mr. Trump’s crisp pitch, aimed at the economically downtrodden, to “make America great again.”

“You can have the greatest field program, and we did — he had nothing,” said Jay S. Jacobs, a prominent New York Democrat and donor to Mrs. Clinton. “You can have better ads, paid for by greater funds, and we did. Unfortunately, Trump had the winning argument.”

Mrs. Clinton has kept a low profile since her concession speech at a Midtown Manhattan hotel on Wednesday. On Thursday, a young mother with her 13-month-old daughter spotted Mrs. Clinton walking her dogs near her home in Chappaqua, N.Y., posting a photo of the defeated candidate on Facebook that quickly went viral along with the hashtag #ImStillWithHer.

On Friday night, Mrs. Clinton thanked volunteers on a nationwide conference call. “Look, I’m not going to sugarcoat it,” she said, sighing. “These have been very, very tough days.”

Brian4Liberty
11-13-2016, 05:07 PM
Hillary Clinton Blames F.B.I. Director

So did Al Capone.

69360
11-13-2016, 05:35 PM
No Hillary, it was 40 years of your corrupt criminal behavior that caused you to lose.

timosman
11-13-2016, 07:00 PM
No Hillary, it was 40 years of your corrupt criminal behavior that caused you to lose.

Nope, with Clintons it is always somebody else's fault.

fedupinmo
11-13-2016, 09:49 PM
Not to mention having the press braying constantly about how in the bag it was, while depending on folks with low ambition to win...

AZJoe
11-14-2016, 12:09 AM
Its true.

Comey made her use a private server for classified government use.
Comey made her delete tens of thousands of evidence emails while under a subpoena
Comey made her instruct her staff to physically destroy blackberrys, ipads and computers with hammers
Comey made her lie under oath
Comey made her set up the corrupt Clinton Foundation slush fund
Comey made her sell access and favors to foreign governments
Comey made her illegally bomb Libya resulting in deaths of hundreds of thousands and create millions of refugees
Comey made her a warmonger
Comey made her do every criminal corrupt thing in her 50 year history of corruption
Its obviously all Comey's fault.

UWDude
11-14-2016, 12:59 AM
Its true.

Comey made her use a private server for classified government use.
Comey made her delete tens of thousands of evidence emails while under a subpoena
Comey made her instruct her staff to physically destroy blackberrys, ipads and computers with hammers
Comey made her lie under oath
Comey made her set up the corrupt Clinton Foundation slush fund
Comey made her sell access and favors to foreign governments
Comey made her illegally bomb Libya resulting in deaths of hundreds of thousands and create millions of refugees
Comey made her a warmonger
Comey made her do every criminal corrupt thing in her 50 year history of corruption
Its obviously all Comey's fault.

All that to hide yoga and wedding emails.

RandallFan
11-14-2016, 01:47 AM
It was always 50/50. Doesn't matter if big city minorities & feminazis are extra pissy, their vote means little in the electoral college.

osan
11-14-2016, 02:21 AM
Hillary Clinton on Saturday cast blame for her surprise election loss on the announcement by the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, days before the election that he had revived the inquiry into her use of a private email server.

I was waiting for this and have not been disappointed. Clinton's nick should be "old faithful".


In her most extensive remarks since she conceded the race to Donald J. Trump early Wednesday, Mrs. Clinton told donors on a 30-minute conference call that Mr. Comey’s decision to send a letter to Congress about the inquiry 11 days before Election Day had thrust the controversy back into the news and had prevented her from ending the campaign with an optimistic closing argument.

People have gone on about how Bammy is a narcissist - all true. However, they have failed to point out that Clinton is also pathological in this way; nothing is her fault as she passes every buck. Also note the boldface: she apparently thinks she still has a future in politics. Shame on us all if that proves out.


“There are lots of reasons why an election like this is not successful,” Mrs. Clinton said, according to a donor who relayed the remarks. But, she added, “our analysis is that Comey’s letter raising doubts that were groundless, baseless, proven to be, stopped our momentum.”

Note how she frames the assertion - "not successful", neglecting to append "for me." I don't think Comey's letter had anything to do with it.


Mrs. Clinton said a second letter from Mr. Comey, clearing her once again, which came two days before Election Day, had been even more damaging. In that letter, Mr. Comey said an examination of a new trove of emails, which had been found on the computer of Anthony D. Weiner, the estranged husband of one of her top aides, had not caused him to change his earlier conclusion that Mrs. Clinton should face no charges over her handling of classified information.

Of course it was. Had Comey declared her St. Hillary, that would also have been more damaging.

This spider isn't engaging her brain well at all as her ego starts getting the better of her. What she is saying is essentially that Comey was, at least for a week or two, the most powerful man in America. IDFTS.


Her campaign said the seemingly positive outcome had only hurt it with voters who did not trust Mrs. Clinton and were receptive to Mr. Trump’s claims of a “rigged system.” In particular, white suburban women who had been on the fence were reminded of the email imbroglio and broke decidedly in Mr. Trump’s favor, aides said.

The psychosis is deep in these people.


After leading in polls in many battleground states, Mrs. Clinton told the donors on Saturday, “we dropped, and we had to keep really pushing to regain our advantage, which going into last weekend we had.”

“We were once again up in all but two of the battleground states, and we were up considerably in some that we ended up losing,” Mrs. Clinton said. “And we were feeling like we had to put it back together.”

Mark my words on this: as time passes, the exaggerations will run ever wilder. A month from now: "...and then he showed up at my door at 3AM and butt-raped me for a week, non-stop. It hurt so bad... my secret service detail were all in on it, too. I'm still bleeding from the experience... <SOB> <SOB> <SOB>..."


Mrs. Clinton’s contention appears to be more rooted in reality — and hard data. An internal campaign memo with polling data said that “there is no question that a week from Election Day, Secretary Clinton was poised for a historic win,” but that, in the end, “late-breaking developments in the race proved one hurdle too many for us to overcome.”

Note how utterly substance-free the bold. Pure innuendo, saying NOTHING in reality.

Oh yes, the battled the Eeeeeeeville Republicans so nobly, but in the end simply could not prevail over the massive conspiracy.

You can't make this crap up. Oh wait...


Mrs. Clinton lost narrowly in several battleground states, and by the time all ballots are counted, she appears poised to win the popular vote by more than two million votes.
Thus far the NYT appears to be the only paper claiming this. I've seen Trump taking the popular as well. Wonder how they will respond to that if they prove wrong yet again.

Note how artlessly the Times propagandizes. It is pathetic, in a dangerous and evil sort of way.



Still, Mrs. Clinton’s instinct to shun any personal responsibility angered some Democrats. Several donors on the call, while deeply bitter about Mr. Comey’s actions, said they believed that Mrs. Clinton and her campaign had suffered avoidable missteps that handed the election to an unacceptable opponent. They pointed to the campaign’s lack of a compelling message for white working-class voters and to decisions years ago by Mrs. Clinton to use a private email address at the State Department and to accept millions of dollars for speeches to Wall Street.

Can they write not a single paragraph that is not spin-poisoned? The bold implies they were somehow victims, when in fact they were perpetrators. Replace bold with "committed" and one comes a smidge closer to actuality.


Mrs. Clinton’s campaign was so confident in her victory that her aides popped open Champagne on the campaign plane early Tuesday. But that conviction, aides would later learn, was based largely on erroneous data showing that young, black and Latino voters and suburban women who had been turned off by Mr. Trump’s comments but viewed Mrs. Clinton unfavorably would turn out for her in higher numbers than they ultimately did.

Apparently not as much as by Clinton, har har har...


Exit polls conducted by Edison Research found that among people who said they had decided in the final week before Election Day, 47 percent voted for Mr. Trump and 42 percent for Mrs. Clinton.

Am I mistaken, or were outlets such as the Times not reporting very different truths prior to their crushing collective defeat? I seem to recall their claims that exit polls were telling a very different story. Well, I'm sure it's all a big misunderstanding. Nothing to see there.


As early as Wednesday morning, aides began to explain to Democrats shaken by the loss that the campaign’s sophisticated data modeling had not taken into account the bombshell F.B.I. announcement.

That's it, blame the computer! I am sorry, but this is just too hilarious. It's hysterical.


Mr. Comey’s letters to Congress went against the F.B.I.’s longstanding tradition of avoiding decisions that could affect elections, but he told aides that he felt he had no choice because he had already weighed in on the case so publicly. In July, he had taken the unusual step of publicly announcing that the F.B.I. would not charge Mrs. Clinton.

The implication here being, what? Lessee, Comey is a Republican mole... yeah, that's the ticket.


The F.B.I.’s examination of the new emails did not in fact reopen the investigation.

Because it had never been closed in the first place?


Democratic pollsters attributed Mr. Trump’s laser-thin victories in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin — states that President Obama had won — largely to a drifting of college-educated suburban women to the Republican nominee at the last minute, because of the renewed focus on Mrs. Clinton’s email server.

:rolleyes:


“We lost with college-educated whites after leading with them all summer,” a Clinton spokesman, Brian Fallon, said on Wednesday. “Five more days of reminders about Comey, and they gravitated back to Trump.”

Notice Times' lack of any critique of the quotation. Nothing to see here, indeed.


Before Mrs. Clinton spoke on Saturday, her finance director, Dennis Cheng, thanked the donors on the call, each of whom had raised at least $100,000. The campaign brought in nearly $1 billion to spend heavily on data efforts, to disperse hundreds of staff members to battleground states, and to air television advertisements — only to fall short to Mr. Trump’s upstart operation.

There is something strangely invigorating... refreshing, about this.


“You can have the greatest field program, and we did — he had nothing,” said Jay S. Jacobs, a prominent New York Democrat and donor to Mrs. Clinton. “You can have better ads, paid for by greater funds, and we did. Unfortunately, Trump had the winning argument.”

They don't seem to see the absurdity of statements like this, taking the implicit position that they are so wonderful and everyone else so sucky. They are a raft of psychotics.


Mrs. Clinton has kept a low profile since her concession speech at a Midtown Manhattan hotel on Wednesday. On Thursday, a young mother with her 13-month-old daughter spotted Mrs. Clinton walking her dogs near her home in Chappaqua, N.Y., posting a photo of the defeated candidate on Facebook that quickly went viral along with the hashtag #ImStillWithHer.

Dogs? Are their names "Anthony" and "Huma", by any wild chance?

That the Times remains in business says nothing good about its constituent audience.

nobody's_hero
11-14-2016, 07:11 AM
All that to hide yoga and wedding emails.

Well now, wait a minute, could you imagine Clinton in yoga pants?

She saved everyone in the country from going blind.

brushfire
11-14-2016, 07:59 AM
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Peace&Freedom
11-14-2016, 08:10 AM
Its true.

Comey made her use a private server for classified government use.
Comey made her delete tens of thousands of evidence emails while under a subpoena
Comey made her instruct her staff to physically destroy blackberrys, ipads and computers with hammers
Comey made her lie under oath
Comey made her set up the corrupt Clinton Foundation slush fund
Comey made her sell access and favors to foreign governments
Comey made her illegally bomb Libya resulting in deaths of hundreds of thousands and create millions of refugees
Comey made her a warmonger
Comey made her do every criminal corrupt thing in her 50 year history of corruption
Its obviously all Comey's fault.

Add one more: Comey made her lose three Democratic base states in the mid-west that they hadn't lost in 30 years, all by himself.

otherone
11-14-2016, 08:17 AM
Add one more: Comey made her lose three Democratic base states in the mid-west that they hadn't lost in 30 years, all by himself.

Yes. It was Comey who made all the financially struggling, laid-off misogynists vote for Trump. Oh, and if you can't afford healthcare, we'll tax fine you. What pundits don't understand is that for working people, the presidential race isn't a popularity contest...it's survival.

TommyJeff
11-14-2016, 08:38 AM
Someone should remind Hillary how many fingers are pointing back at yourself when you point and blame others.