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jmdrake
11-13-2016, 08:59 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/colin-kaepernick-didnt-vote-in-the-election-and-stephen-a-smith-let-him-have-it

I told some of y'all haters and idiots that Colin is smarter than you gave him credit for being.

NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick — who sparked both praise and controversy this season for refusing to stand during the national anthem — says he did not vote in the 2016 election. And that’s made some people across the country furious.

To be fair, Kaepernick has never pretended to like either candidate. After the presidential debate at Hofstra University this fall, the 49ers QB called both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump “proven liars,” stating that Trump’s campaign slogan — “Make America great again” — is fundamentally flawed because America has never been great for people of color.

“To me, it was embarrassing to watch; that these are our two candidates,” Kaepernick explained in an October interview with CSN Bay Area. “Both are proven liars and it almost seems like they’re trying to debate who’s less racist.... You have to pick the lesser of two evils, but in the end, it’s still evil.”

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Colin Kaepernick #7 of the San Francisco 49ers warms up before the game against the Buffalo Bills at New Era Field on October 16, 2016 in Buffalo, New York. TOM SZCZERBOWSKI/GETTY IMAGES
When Election Day came, however, Kaepernick did not “pick the lesser of two evils.” He didn’t pick anyone at all. So, on Wednesday, just hours after President-elect Donald Trump declared victory in the 2016 election, ESPN personality Stephen A. Smith let Kaepernick have it.

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Stephen A. Smith hosts SiriusXM Show from Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania November 11, 2014 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. BILL MCCAY/GETTY IMAGES FOR SIRIUSXM
“Colin Kaepernick, after all this noise that you made — even though you didn’t intend to do so — offending our military servicemen and women, and pointing out about how you wanted to bring attention to racial injustices and beyond in this country,” Smith argued on ESPN2’s “First Take.” “To turn around and not to even take your behind to the polls to vote for a particular candidate? It is shameful. Absolutely shameful.”

Smith’s rant continued uninterrupted for nearly two minutes, calling the controversial San Francisco 49ers starter “a flaming hypocrite,” who “betrayed his cause.”

“He absolutely betrayed his cause. As far as I’m concerned, Colin Kaepernick is absolutely irrelevant,” Smith passionately articulated. “I don’t want to see him again. I don’t want to hear from him again. I don’t want to hear a damn word about anything that he has to say about our nation, the issues that we have, racial injustices, needing change, etc. etc. He comes across as a flaming hypocrite... and quite frankly, I hope he goes away. He’s lucky to be in the league right now.”

"For him not to vote...as far as I'm concerned, everything he said meant absolutely nothing!"

- stephenasmith on Colin Kaepernick pic.twitter.com/gShvVfVoAt

— First Take (@FirstTake) November 9, 2016
Kaepernick’s protest took place in the wake of recent police shootings, in the name of raising awareness for racial oppression and injustices in America. And as the 2016 NFL season went on, more and more players from teams throughout the league joined his cause: 49ers safety Eric Reid, Broncos linebacker Brandon Marshall, Redskins wide receiver DeSean Jackson, Colt cornerback Antonio Cromartie, Titans defensive tackle Jurrell Casey, and more.

“For me, it was something that I couldn’t see another ‘hashtag Sandra Bland, hashtag Tamir Rice, hashtag Walter Scott, hashtag Eric Garner,’ the list goes on and on and on,” Kaepernick told ESPN back in September. “At what point do we do something about it? At what point do we take a stand and as a people say this isn’t right? You have a badge, yes. You’re supposed to be protecting us, not murdering us, and that’s what the issue really is and we need to change that.”

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Eli Harold #58, Colin Kaepernick #7, and Eric Reid #35 of the San Francisco 49ers kneel in protest during the national anthem prior to their NFL game against the Arizona Cardinals at Levi’s Stadium on October 6, 2016 in Santa Clara, California. THEARON W. HENDERSON/GETTY IMAGES
The problem now is that Kaepernick said he wanted to change things, but when it came time to vote in the hope of doing just that, he did nothing at all. What’s more, the issue of police shootings actually became something of a lightning rod in both candidates’ campaigns, with Clinton aligning herself with the families of those shooting victims, and Trump aligning himself with officers in blue. With that in mind, voting might have been a very real way for Kaepernick take a stand.

“Him of all people, because of the position he took, because of the attention he brought to the issues. The fact that you don’t even have the decency to go to the polls and activate yourself in this election, as our president said, is a damn shame,” continued Smith on Wednesday. “I don’t want to hear another word from Colin Kaepernick. It’s a waste of time... Wherever he is, if he ain’t on that football field trying to throw another damn incomplete pass, do me a favor and make sure of one thing: Take the camera away from him. It means nothing. Because for him not to vote, as far as I’m concerned, everything he said meant absolutely nothing.”

UWDude
11-13-2016, 09:50 AM
I support Colin.

TheTexan
11-13-2016, 10:16 AM
“To turn around and not to even take your behind to the polls to vote for a particular candidate? It is shameful. Absolutely shameful.”

May God have mercy on his soul.

timosman
11-13-2016, 10:57 AM
Dup - http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?503856-Steven-A-Smith-Gets-Triggered

timosman
11-13-2016, 10:59 AM
May God have mercy on his soul.

Dude, I do not know if you realize but your particular brand of humor is not very funny. Try picking up a different hobby. Have you tried woodworking?

otherone
11-13-2016, 11:09 AM
Dude, I do not know if you realize but your particular brand of humor is not very funny.

Speaking for yourself, of course.

UWDude
11-13-2016, 11:19 AM
Dude, I do not know if you realize but your particular brand of humor is not very funny. Try picking up a different hobby. Have you tried woodworking?

I think he's the funniest person on this board.

juleswin
11-13-2016, 12:51 PM
I support Colin.

Did u even read his quotes, he still views the world through a racial lens. American has never been great for colored people? really? I want to support him but people who have race on the brain usually get their points wrong.

jmdrake
11-13-2016, 01:03 PM
Did u even read his quotes, he still views the world through a racial lens. American has never been great for colored people? really? I want to support him but people who have race on the brain usually get their points wrong.

Ron Paul agrees with Colin Kaepernick's position that the just-us system is racially biased.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VR9YbBquRY

"A system based on individual liberty will have no punishment for any group and no privileges. Today I think that inner city folks, minorities, are punished unfairly in the war on drugs. For instance blacks make up 14% of those who use drugs. Yet 36% of those arrested are black. And it ends up that 63% of those that end up in prisons are blacks. This has to change. We don't have to have more courts and more prisons. We need to repeal the whole war on drugs. It isn't working."

It's sad that some Ron Paul supporters are deaf when Ron Paul spits the truth about racial inequality. Yes repealing the war on drugs is a good thing regardless of racial disparity. But there is racial disparity in the war on drugs and that racial disparity poisons the whole just-us system.

Brian4Liberty
11-13-2016, 01:28 PM
Damn that Kaepernick! If he would have voted for Hillary, she would have won California!

(BTW, the true travesty is that he is playing Quarterback in the NFL).

UWDude
11-13-2016, 01:30 PM
Did u even read his quotes, he still views the world through a racial lens. American has never been great for colored people? really?

For black people in particular, yes. A lot of that is the fault of black politicians, but that doesn't mean it was ever great for them.

Krugminator2
11-13-2016, 01:30 PM
Kaepernick wore a shirt with Fidel Castro and Malcolm X during his first press conference discussing whatever it is he is upset about. His opinion counts for zero. I will never consider the opinion of Castro sympathizer on anything.

euphemia
11-13-2016, 01:34 PM
Did u even read his quotes, he still views the world through a racial lens. American has never been great for colored people? really? I want to support him but people who have race on the brain usually get their points wrong.

Kaepernick is an intellectually lazy man who wants to whine. He has nothing helpful to say and doesn't participate in the process. That must be why SF is doing so well this year.

jmdrake
11-13-2016, 01:40 PM
Kaepernick is an intellectually lazy man who wants to whine. He has nothing helpful to say and doesn't participate in the process. That must be why SF is doing so well this year.

Well quit being intellectually lazy yourself and watch this.


https://youtu.be/-VR9YbBquRY

euphemia
11-13-2016, 02:15 PM
Stop being rude. I didn't do anything to you. I don't have the privilege of sitting around on the internet watching this or that video. I've read enough of Kaepernick to have an informed opinion. He is ungrateful, intellectually lazy, and personally lazy. He is not playing well this year and does not seem to care. If he's going to talk the talk, he needs to walk the walk. What else is he doing to make a statement? Boycotting all and sundry is just stupid.

jmdrake
11-13-2016, 02:20 PM
Stop being rude. I didn't do anything to you. I don't have the privilege of sitting around on the internet watching this or that video. I've read enough of Kaepernick to have an informed opinion. He is ungrateful, intellectually lazy, and personally lazy. He is not playing well this year and does not seem to care. If he's going to talk the talk, he needs to walk the walk. What else is he doing to make a statement? Boycotting all and sundry is just stupid.

So I guess Ron is stupid for not voting for Hillary or Trump for some of the same reasons Kaepernick didn't. Do what you want. I don't even watch football. But I appreciate someone like Kaepernick who has seen through the BS that is our electoral system that tells rural whites that the republicans will save them and tells urban blacks that the democrats will save them. I haven't seen people here getting upset at tea party types flying the American flag upside down.

euphemia
11-13-2016, 02:26 PM
Dude, go back to your video games. Kaepernick doesn't know what he's protesting except he doesn't like something. It's been going on all season. He can say what he wants, but he at least needs to do his job. He has no leadership or football skills, either because SF is in free fall.

jmdrake
11-13-2016, 02:32 PM
Dude, go back to your video games. Kaepernick doesn't know what he's protesting except he doesn't like something. It's been going on all season. He can say what he wants, but he at least needs to do his job. He has no leadership or football skills, either because SF is in free fall.

Dudette, you admitted you hadn't even watched a key Ron Paul video from 2008 and your talking smack. I could care less about football. I care about political awakening. And CK did just that. He saw through the left/right divide in politics. Has he gone all the way to political enlightenment? No. But maybe you could tweet him some Ron Paul videos like the one I just posted. The young demographic that voted Ron Paul in 2012 largely went Bernie Sanders this go round because we as a movement went a whoring after the tea party and left them twisting in the wind.

dannno
11-13-2016, 03:10 PM
So what you are saying is that he made his position clear from the beginning, the media lied to everybody and portrayed it statements as something else, and then when he followed through on his actual statements a few months later everybody freaked out?

I wish they would just go away.

RandallFan
11-13-2016, 06:19 PM
Kaepernick is another uninformed black celebrity.

He was in commiefornia anyway.

Tom Brady & Big Ben are equally informed as him on politics.

parocks
11-13-2016, 07:32 PM
Damn that Kaepernick! If he would have voted for Hillary, she would have won California!

(BTW, the true travesty is that he is playing Quarterback in the NFL).

Yeah, it's just so easy to take a team to the Super Bowl.

The only QBs drafted this decade to take their teams to the Super Bowl are QBs who have run for 500+ yards in a season.

Jamesiv1
11-13-2016, 07:35 PM
Kaepernick is another uninformed black celebrity.

He was in commiefornia anyway.

Tom Brady & Big Ben are equally informed as him on politics.
Dak Prescott is the only quarterback in the NFL right now - the only one.

Know why? Because he's on America's Team - and he is going to Make America's Team Great Again!!!!! MATGA!!!!

oyarde
11-13-2016, 08:02 PM
Dak Prescott is the only quarterback in the NFL right now - the only one.

Know why? Because he's on America's Team - and he is going to Make America's Team Great Again!!!!! MATGA!!!!

Jones should be able to find a way to fuck it up . I am counting on him.

Superfluous Man
11-13-2016, 09:29 PM
Did u even read his quotes, he still views the world through a racial lens. American has never been great for colored people? really? I want to support him but people who have race on the brain usually get their points wrong.

I'm guessing you're white.

Weston White
11-13-2016, 11:11 PM
I do not believe it is so much about race, as much as it is about one’s “privilege” or social status, and willingness to “pay to play” or “go along to get along” or “not muddy the waters for the rest of us” e.g., OJ Simpson, R. Kelly.

People naturally segregate themselves, just as do animals, e.g., birds of a feather flock together. Something easily provable; I realized this when I was in the military, for example, during liberty call, special events, and meals, etc., for the most part all the blacks sat or hung out together, all the redneck (enginemen), all the Filipinos, etc. (about the only exception was Hispanics who mostly identified largely with whites) Even ratings were predominately racially driven, e.g., blacks cooks and signalmen; Filipinos logistics and stores; whites enginemen/firefighters, and gunner’s mates, yeoman, quartermasters, etc.

This effect has effectively resulted in social ghettos wherein those of the same race victimize one another. Over time this process compounds itself, the schools within those districts become disheveled, only the less skilled teachers are willing to staff there, peer pressure does will of the weak-minded, parents are subjugated under government requirements that stipulate free money, food, and shelter so long that they retain a broken home—and the more children they have the more benefits they are granted.

And the irony is that this is largely born from the Democratic Party, which was coopted by the KKK, because overt or mainstream racism was no longer sustainable, so it had to be reinvented via covert mechanisms. …And be damned us all that it didn’t work like a charm. Americans fell all over themselves to acquire such newly defined “progressivism.”

By the by, I am so infuriated with the chain of political events this year that I did not even bother registering to vote (aside from the sad realization that my vote as a libertarian simply does not matter in California and that at least over 2-million votes were not counted in the last election and nobody with authority to do so has bothered making any issue out of this travesty.)

misterx
11-13-2016, 11:34 PM
I'm guessing you're white.

I'm guessing you're Jewish or a POC.

Superfluous Man
11-13-2016, 11:43 PM
I'm guessing you're Jewish or a POC.

No. Why?

misterx
11-13-2016, 11:57 PM
No. Why?

Just making assumptions based on your apparent position on racial lenses. Nothing you didn't do to Juleswin.

Superfluous Man
11-14-2016, 12:01 AM
Just making assumptions based on your apparent position on racial lenses. Nothing you didn't do to Juleswin.

Yeah, but what did I say that supported your assumption?

misterx
11-14-2016, 12:04 AM
Yeah, but what did I say that supported your assumption?

What did he say that supported your assumption? Can POC not believe that viewing everything through a racial lens is, to quote him, "wrong"?

Superfluous Man
11-14-2016, 12:09 AM
What did he say that supported your assumption? Can POC not believe that viewing everything through a racial lens is, to quote him, "wrong"?
So you're not going to answer my question and tell me what I said that supported your assumption?

With respect to what he said, he expressed the naive view that there's something wrong with Kaepernick thinking America hasn't been great for black people.

So I'm going way out on a limb and guessing that he's white.

I know I'm taking a wild stab in the dark here.

RandallFan
11-14-2016, 12:16 AM
Dak Prescott is the only quarterback in the NFL right now - the only one.

Know why? Because he's on America's Team - and he is going to Make America's Team Great Again!!!!! MATGA!!!!

He's a fro-intellectual.

misterx
11-14-2016, 12:24 AM
So you're not going to answer my question and tell me what I said that supported your assumption?

With respect to what he said, he expressed the naive view that there's something wrong with Kaepernick thinking America hasn't been great for black people.

So I'm going way out on a limb and guessing that he's white.

I know I'm taking a wild stab in the dark here.

That's an assumption that is probably right more often than not. Juleswin happens to be right though, regardless of his race. His view is not naive at all. What country has been better for black people than America? Don't even bother saying another white country, because that would also go completely against Kaeprnick's world view that you are defending.

I will answer your question, but you made the first assumption, so it's only fair that you answer for that first. Now that you have, I will tell you. The notion that whites are incapable of understanding the plight of black people, is one primarily held by POC and Jewish people. It is a minority of non-Jewish whites who hold that viewpoint, therefore it's as good an assumption as yours was.

RandallFan
11-14-2016, 01:49 AM
Kaepernick and other black activists grow a goatee, grow an afro, wear glasses, get a nice suit and then run around like their smartest people ever.

Van Jones & marc lamont hill are 2 of the dumbest people on tv.

juleswin
11-14-2016, 09:30 AM
Ron Paul agrees with Colin Kaepernick's position that the just-us system is racially biased.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VR9YbBquRY

"A system based on individual liberty will have no punishment for any group and no privileges. Today I think that inner city folks, minorities, are punished unfairly in the war on drugs. For instance blacks make up 14% of those who use drugs. Yet 36% of those arrested are black. And it ends up that 63% of those that end up in prisons are blacks. This has to change. We don't have to have more courts and more prisons. We need to repeal the whole war on drugs. It isn't working."

It's sad that some Ron Paul supporters are deaf when Ron Paul spits the truth about racial inequality. Yes repealing the war on drugs is a good thing regardless of racial disparity. But there is racial disparity in the war on drugs and that racial disparity poisons the whole just-us system.

Please I am not saying that there is no racism anywhere and the police do not profile or use racial prejudice in their line of work. What I am saying is that in spite of all of that, America has been and still is a great country for anybody in it(maybe not Native Americans). Also that people who see the world through race usually have a warped worldview.

Lastly, the drug war sucks for blacks(and also for everybody else) and this country would be greater without it.

juleswin
11-14-2016, 09:37 AM
I'm guessing you're white.

Not a white person or an uncle Tom, just a normal black man who looks at this country and still sees a great country, albeit diminishing in greatness. But I grew in Nigerian if that makes a difference.

Superfluous Man
11-14-2016, 09:54 AM
Not a white person or an uncle Tom, just a normal black man who looks at this country and still sees a great country, albeit diminishing in greatness. But I grew in Nigerian if that makes a difference.

Well I'll be.

I stand corrected.

I would never accuse anyone of being an Uncle Tom. Even though I'm more on Kaepernick's side on this one.

Brian4Liberty
11-14-2016, 11:18 AM
Yeah, it's just so easy to take a team to the Super Bowl.

The only QBs drafted this decade to take their teams to the Super Bowl are QBs who have run for 500+ yards in a season.

Eh. It's good to have a quarterback who can run, even better to have one who can remember plays, read the defense, and throw accurate passes.

Colin was a back-up quarterback who stepped into a perfect situation and won a few games before other teams had a chance to scout him out. He didn't have much pressure on him because Alex Smith was right there to take his job back. And when he finally got to the Super Bowl, Colin was a deer in the headlights.

UWDude
11-14-2016, 12:39 PM
So I'm going way out on a limb and guessing that he's white.


Racist. Let me guess, you are white, taking offense on behalf of people you don't even know anything about.

parocks
11-14-2016, 02:13 PM
Eh. It's good to have a quarterback who can run, even better to have one who can remember plays, read the defense, and throw accurate passes.

Colin was a back-up quarterback who stepped into a perfect situation and won a few games before other teams had a chance to scout him out. He didn't have much pressure on him because Alex Smith was right there to take his job back. And when he finally got to the Super Bowl, Colin was a deer in the headlights.



The proof is in the pudding. The ability of a QB to run exceptionally well is much more important than most believe. QB = passing + running. And most QBs can't make big plays running.

misterx
11-14-2016, 02:27 PM
Please I am not saying that there is no racism anywhere and the police do not profile or use racial prejudice in their line of work. What I am saying is that in spite of all of that, America has been and still is a great country for anybody in it(maybe not Native Americans). Also that people who see the world through race usually have a warped worldview.

Lastly, the drug war sucks for blacks(and also for everybody else) and this country would be greater without it.

It's a great country for Native Americans too if they choose to be a part of it. It may not be for the ones that stay on the reservation, but that's their choice.

misterx
11-14-2016, 02:30 PM
The proof is in the pudding. The ability of a QB to run exceptionally well is much more important than most believe. QB = passing + running. And most QBs can't make big plays running.

Why isn't the super bowl champion a mobile quarterback every year? Last year it was the least mobile quarterback in the league. This year it will be Brady yet again. A lot of people are trying to push the mobile quarterback angle, because they want black quarterbacks, but they aren't having much success. Russel Wilson is better when he doesn't run, and if he keeps running, he won't last very long.