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Anti Federalist
11-10-2016, 09:08 PM
After Donald Trump victory, Oregonians submit ballot proposal to secede from the union

http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/11/after_trump_victory_oregonians.html

Two days after Donald Trump was elected president of the United States, two Portlanders have submitted a petition for a 2018 ballot initiative to have Oregon secede from the United States.

On Thursday morning, Jennifer Rollins, a lawyer, and Christian Trejbal, a writer, filed the Oregon Secession Act.

"Oregonian values are no longer the values held by the rest of the United States," Trejbal said over the phone Thursday.

Those values? "Life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness," Trejbal said, "plus equality."

"Obviously," he said, the ballot proposal "came about partially in response to the election results on Tuesday."

"But," he added, "it's been developing over time."


Tuesday's election has renewed interest in Cascadia and some are calling for Oregon and California to leave the United States.

Trejbal said that he and Rollins are hoping to start a serious conversation in Oregon about what it would mean to peacefully leave the United States. They opted for 2018 to give Oregonians some time to really think about what seceding from the union would mean.

Some Californians have already expressed interest in seceding and the language of the Oregon proposal includes the option to bring other states into a "Constitutional Convention."

Trejbal said that joining forces with other states like Washington, California and Nevada is "a viable way to go forward."

These states, he said, "could all get together and form a nation that uphold the values that we share."

To start the ballot title drafting process, the Oregon Secession Act must receive 1,000 signatures. Trejbal said he and Rollins would be at Pioneer Courthouse Square in Portland on Thursday night to begin the process of getting those signatures.

You can read the Oregon Secession Act here.

-- Lizzy Acker

503-221-8052
lacker@oregonian.com, Lizzzyacker

misterx
11-10-2016, 09:10 PM
All of a sudden liberals believe in secession? Funny how being on the losing side will change your mind.

The Gold Standard
11-10-2016, 09:10 PM
Bye. I'll say this, if Trump can manage to dissolve the union, I may consider voting for him in 2020.

oyarde
11-10-2016, 09:10 PM
After Donald Trump victory, Oregonians submit ballot proposal to secede from the union

http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/11/after_trump_victory_oregonians.html

Two days after Donald Trump was elected president of the United States, two Portlanders have submitted a petition for a 2018 ballot initiative to have Oregon secede from the United States.

On Thursday morning, Jennifer Rollins, a lawyer, and Christian Trejbal, a writer, filed the Oregon Secession Act.

"Oregonian values are no longer the values held by the rest of the United States," Trejbal said over the phone Thursday.

Those values? "Life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness," Trejbal said, "plus equality."

"Obviously," he said, the ballot proposal "came about partially in response to the election results on Tuesday."

"But," he added, "it's been developing over time."


Tuesday's election has renewed interest in Cascadia and some are calling for Oregon and California to leave the United States.

Trejbal said that he and Rollins are hoping to start a serious conversation in Oregon about what it would mean to peacefully leave the United States. They opted for 2018 to give Oregonians some time to really think about what seceding from the union would mean.

Some Californians have already expressed interest in seceding and the language of the Oregon proposal includes the option to bring other states into a "Constitutional Convention."

Trejbal said that joining forces with other states like Washington, California and Nevada is "a viable way to go forward."

These states, he said, "could all get together and form a nation that uphold the values that we share."

To start the ballot title drafting process, the Oregon Secession Act must receive 1,000 signatures. Trejbal said he and Rollins would be at Pioneer Courthouse Square in Portland on Thursday night to begin the process of getting those signatures.

You can read the Oregon Secession Act here.

-- Lizzy Acker

503-221-8052
lacker@oregonian.com, Lizzzyacker

I demand restitution from Oregon . I never held the values they did .

oyarde
11-10-2016, 09:12 PM
Bye. I'll say this, if Trump can manage to dissolve the union, I may consider voting for him in 2020.

If he gets rid of California and Oregon I might .LOL

AuH20
11-10-2016, 09:18 PM
Trump is the gift that keeps on giving.

Anti Federalist
11-10-2016, 09:18 PM
When is Ill-Annoy and New Jersey and New York going to go?

oyarde
11-10-2016, 09:24 PM
When is Ill-Annoy and New Jersey and New York going to go?

Dems cannot part with Ill , it is the farm team for the big leagues .

The Gold Standard
11-10-2016, 09:25 PM
When is Ill-Annoy and New Jersey and New York going to go?

They just need encouragement from others going first. And an assurance that the federal government won't slaughter them.

Anti Federalist
11-10-2016, 09:30 PM
When is Ill-Annoy and New Jersey and New York going to go?

Anti Federalist
11-10-2016, 09:47 PM
They just need encouragement from others going first. And an assurance that the federal government won't slaughter them.

I think we can manage that.

Anti Federalist
11-10-2016, 09:49 PM
"Oregonian values are no longer the values held by the rest of the United States," Trejbal said over the phone Thursday.

Not sure what "Orgeonian values" are although I can guess.

Anybody care to take a stab at it.

Origanalist
11-10-2016, 09:50 PM
Bye. I'll say this, if Trump can manage to dissolve the union, I may consider voting for him in 2020.

Oh hell yes.

Origanalist
11-10-2016, 09:52 PM
Not sure what "Orgeonian values" are although I can guess.

Anybody care to take a stab at it.

Same as every other State. Progressive shitstains in the cities and enclaves outside and brainwashed boobus in the burbs. Outside of that I know some good people in Oregon but they live in the sticks.

AuH20
11-10-2016, 09:54 PM
Not sure what "Orgeonian values" are although I can guess.

Anybody care to take a stab at it.

Burning things that don't belong to you?

Origanalist
11-10-2016, 09:56 PM
This is fucking great. My dreams are coming true, let's keep the ball rolling! I need to find out how to get this started for Washington.

RandallFan
11-10-2016, 10:02 PM
51.9% voted Clinton.

I could see Republicans winning Senate & gub races there with say a pro-abort, closed-borders platform in the future.

GOAT celebrity Chael Sonnen is a Trump supporter.

seapilot
11-10-2016, 10:07 PM
http://www.mapsofworld.com/elections/usa/results/maps/oregon.jpg

Like Cali, it would not look like the state they know today. Most of Oregon is rural farm, cattle country and they love their guns and bibles.

Anti Federalist
11-10-2016, 10:10 PM
Pete and Orig are two of our most prominent Oregonians.

I reckon Pete might move back to the UP.

Origanalist
11-10-2016, 10:12 PM
Pete and Orig are two of our most prominent Oregonians.

I reckon Pete might move back to the UP.

Well, I'm actually in Washington. Close though.

Champuckett
11-10-2016, 10:30 PM
This is awesome, and the libertarians aren't even doing any of the work to make this happen.

pcosmar
11-10-2016, 10:39 PM
They never do whatever they said.

Lets Make America Small again

pcosmar
11-10-2016, 10:41 PM
Pete and Orig are two of our most prominent Oregonians.

I reckon Pete might move back to the UP.

No plans,, it's nice here.
That story is from Portland.

oyarde
11-10-2016, 11:06 PM
This is $#@!ing great. My dreams are coming true, let's keep the ball rolling! I need to find out how to get this started for Washington.

Sorry , we are keeping your progressives for Ocean access because we are letting Cal - Or out .

John F Kennedy III
11-10-2016, 11:12 PM
Not sure what "Orgeonian values" are although I can guess.

Anybody care to take a stab at it.

Trees, naked bicycle rides, donuts shaped like dicks and free shit.

John F Kennedy III
11-10-2016, 11:14 PM
Well, I'm actually in Washington. Close though.

Same shit, just wetter.

John F Kennedy III
11-10-2016, 11:15 PM
This is awesome, and the libertarians aren't even doing any of the work to make this happen.

Fucking right? Lol.

Origanalist
11-10-2016, 11:23 PM
Same shit, just wetter.

Not much.

AuH20
11-10-2016, 11:36 PM
Socialists really really like coastlines. I speculate that the rhythmic action of the waves calms them down.

oyarde
11-10-2016, 11:42 PM
Socialists really really like coastlines. I speculate that the rhythmic action of the waves calms them down.

I just thought it was so they could plead for help that others pay for when it gets too wet.

AuH20
11-10-2016, 11:42 PM
Portland is under siege or so I hear.

hells_unicorn
11-10-2016, 11:47 PM
I have a better idea, how about all of the bizarre mockeries of human existence that currently abode in Portland and the northwestern coastal area of the state pack their crap and move to San Francisco so that California can secede and then Oregon can stay. Actually, how about all of these self-absorbed, authoritarian pukes in just about every urban area of America pack up and head for another country. These people live off of food farmed and produced by people that they spit on, let them try doing the kind of work that they claim most Americans "just won't do".

Idiots, they are the reason why we never have nice things.

AuH20
11-10-2016, 11:52 PM
What's the deal with Portland? Latch key kids? It just seems to have an inordinate share of really disgruntled idiots.

hells_unicorn
11-11-2016, 12:01 AM
What's the deal with Portland? Latch key kids? It just seems to have an inordinate share of really disgruntled idiots.

It's been a haven for mentally ill homeless people since the 1970s, I think it was hit almost as hard by the 60s counter-culture disease as San Francisco was. Unwashed imbeciles making laws to bring more of their kind in = a veritable leper colony minus the leprosy.

seapilot
11-11-2016, 12:15 AM
Socialists really really like coastlines. I speculate that the rhythmic action of the waves calms them down.

Blame it on modern airliners. Before most people had to drive through rural american towns and interact with each other. Now it only takes 5 hours to fly from NY to West Coast. They call it Fly over country for a reason. My guess is Colorado got recently infected by Denver's Hub for connecting flights.

Ender
11-11-2016, 12:55 AM
Not sure what "Orgeonian values" are although I can guess.

Anybody care to take a stab at it.

Have family that live there and they love it. The people are very liberal in the old-fashioned definition of the word- the government is liberal more toward the modern version. :)

Overall, Oregon people are very accepting, kind, and are definitely the hippies of the 21st century.

Dangergirl
11-11-2016, 11:47 AM
I have a better idea, how about all of the bizarre mockeries of human existence that currently abode in Portland and the northwestern coastal area of the state pack their crap and move to San Francisco so that California can secede and then Oregon can stay. Actually, how about all of these self-absorbed, authoritarian pukes in just about every urban area of America pack up and head for another country. These people live off of food farmed and produced by people that they spit on, let them try doing the kind of work that they claim most Americans "just won't do".

Idiots, they are the reason why we never have nice things.

We should built a wall around CA...:D

Pizzo
11-11-2016, 11:55 AM
When is Ill-Annoy and New Jersey and New York going to go?

Hopefully just Chicagoland goes and leaves us downstaters the fuck alone.

Anti Federalist
11-11-2016, 01:47 PM
Well, I'm actually in Washington. Close though.

Oh shit, sorry man, I thought you were in Oregon.

The Northbreather
11-11-2016, 02:12 PM
Oregonians act poor to keep more idiots from moving in.

Quality of life is high.

Portland had some descent prices on homes till that Portlandia show drove in more hipsters from all over