Rand Paul and Jim Gray debate on KET / CSPAN - 10/31/16

[jct74]

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Debate will be hosted by KET, a Kentucky PBS station, and is scheduled (http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary/gridSchedule.php) to air live on CSPAN. It will be the one and only debate of the senate race.

This is the official thread. :toady:


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update:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tlQijKvKs0

https://www.c-span.org/video/?416939-1/kentucky-senate-debate

[Occam's Banana]

Toady is the debate.

(It had to be said.)

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[r3volution 3.0]

Awesome, my sanity reserves were running low, need a refill.

[jct74]

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#kysen is the hashtag

https://twitter.com/hashtag/kysen?f=tweets&vertical=default&src=hash

[jct74]

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[jct74]

Seems to be going OK so far. Anyone watching?

[William Tell]

Yes. Just tuned in thanks to your thread. No drama so far.

[Valli6]

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I'm watching.

[jct74]

Yes. Just tuned in thanks to your thread. No drama so far.

They were fighting earlier over Rand running for president, Gray asked him to sign a pledge not to run again. Rand called him a hypocrite for running for senate while serving as mayor.

[Danke]

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[William Tell]

They were fighting earlier over Rand running for president, Gray asked him to sign a pledge not to run again. Rand called him a hypocrite for running for senate while serving as mayor.

I guess we will need a tube of that. I want to be able to guess the odds based on Rand's body language.:D

[r3volution 3.0]

Gray bellowing about how the minimum wage is a great American tradition and a key part of a functioning capitalist economy...

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Rand schools him (first day of micro 101, to be precise).

[SneakyFrenchSpy]

All Gray could do was demagogue and attack Rand while fumbling his words pretty badly. Rand wins this round for being so collected and insightful in his answers.

[jct74]

full video

https://www.c-span.org/video/?416939-1/kentucky-senate-debate

[nikcers]

Gray bellowing about how the minimum wage is a great American tradition and a key part of a functioning capitalist economy...
Rand schools him (first day of micro 101, to be precise).

I saw that, I walked into it late though because of traffic, was there any foreign policy related questions? Rand's answer at the end though was the perfect thing to say. I think lots of people feel like they don't spend enough time with loved ones. I pray his family is never threatened because he is defending my liberty.

[Krugminator2]

Hard to imagine this debate did much for Gray. He was aggressive but didn't land any hard punches. And it is amusing Gray is basically running as a neocon.

[r3volution 3.0]

I saw that, I walked into it late though because of traffic, was there any foreign policy related questions? Rand's answer at the end though was the perfect thing to say. I think lots of people feel like they don't spend enough time with loved ones. I pray his family is never threatened because he is defending my liberty.

Paraphrasing...

Rand: "We shouldn't have invaded Iraq or Libya, shouldn't have armed Syrian rebels, created chaos, I want a strong but more efficient military"

Gray: "Trump and McCain and Christie said you're dangerous on national security! So there!"

[CPUd]

Gray is pretty much a campaign surrogate for Rand. Maybe they will have him on the shows this weekend :)

[jct74]

It's pretty funny how one of Jim Gray's main talking points is that Rand does not reach across the aisle, when really there could not be anything further from the truth. I saw the Herald-Leader repeat that same talking point in their endorsement of Gray a few days ago, which is not that surprising I guess since they are basically an extension of the Democrat Party, along with the Courier-Journal. Just shows how desperate they are.

As for Rand's performance I thought he did pretty good, just like he did in the debates during the debates in 2010 senate race. I think Rand is better when there are fewer candidates on stage and there is more time to explain his answers, in contrast to the presidential debates where I think he did not do nearly as well for that reason and various other ones.

[nikcers]

It's pretty funny how one of Jim Gray's main talking points is that Rand does not reach across the aisle, when really there could not be anything further from the truth. I saw the Herald-Leader repeat that same talking point in their endorsement of Gray a few days ago, which is not that surprising I guess since they are basically an extension of the Democrat Party, along with the Courier-Journal. Just shows how desperate they are.

As for Rand's performance I thought he did pretty good, just like he did in the debates during the debates in 2010 senate race. I think Rand is better when there are fewer candidates on stage and there is more time to explain his answers, in contrast to the presidential debates where I think he did not do nearly as well for that reason and various other ones.

I was having trouble understanding his talking points in response to the answer until I realized that they were all DNC talking points. The back and fourth reminded me of a soundboard prank call. There was no context to his answers and it was all word salad. It sounded more like a laundry list than an argument. He used "boardroom" buzzwords that have no specific meaning, it was the most forgetful thing I ever watched.

[jct74]

here's a recap and some video outside the debate venue

http://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article111732127.html

[jct74]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tlQijKvKs0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tlQijKvKs0

[harikaried]

Thanks for the videos. Donated the max after watching them.
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[Todd]

I've never actually heard a Democrat truly argue that the problem is shrinking government and the answer is we must grow the government bigger and bigger. Kudos for him being truly honest in his douchebaggery.