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Brian4Liberty
10-20-2016, 10:56 AM
Are The Russians Rigging Our Elections? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bstWFlMGm-4)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bstWFlMGm-4

RonZeplin
10-20-2016, 11:33 AM
Nyet, comrade!

http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Trump-putin-image.jpg

We don't need any foreign meddling in our election rigging. We're #1

Jamesiv1
10-20-2016, 11:34 AM
Are The Russians Rigging Our Elections? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bstWFlMGm-4)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bstWFlMGm-4
Good video. The quote from the NSA guy is awesome. "A govt espionage agency getting emails from a foreign government? Game on. Thats what we do."

lol

Jamesiv1
10-20-2016, 11:44 AM
interesting to see Ron *almost* defending Trumpmaster D. I'm sure it's rooted in his disgust for Hillary but still...

He's catching on, I tell ya!!

Todd
10-20-2016, 12:14 PM
Good point he makes. You'd think that the fact that we have rigged dozens of other nations elections that people might connect the dots that it could happen here by our very own busy bodies.

AZJoe
10-20-2016, 07:03 PM
So Clinton and her media cheerleaders are sure the "Russians" are rigging the election, yet they want her opponent to certify the election results before there is even an election?

That does sound like someone wants to rig the election, but not the "Russians".

AZJoe
10-20-2016, 07:12 PM
http://www.politifake.org/image/political/1607/manipulating-elections-politics-1469676486.jpg

timosman
10-20-2016, 07:19 PM
Good point he makes. You'd think that the fact that we have rigged dozens of other nations elections that people might connect the dots that it could happen here by our very own busy bodies.

The problem is people think they are special and shit that happens in other countries would never happen in their own "special" country because we are the good guys. E.g. millions of people watched "The Hunger Games" and yet nobody is any wiser. Most lack the courage to admit the depth of deceit their lives are based on.

AZJoe
10-20-2016, 07:29 PM
Good point he makes. You'd think that the fact that we have rigged dozens of other nations elections that people might connect the dots that it could happen here by our very own busy bodies.

That is a good point. With a hundred year history of interfering in foreign elections, why wouldn't Washington do the same right here.

Dr. Paul, as usual, is spot on in his comment in the video:
"Who’s doing the rigging? And what about our CIA? And what have we done for a hundred years in Central America? What are we doing currently? How much are we involved? We’re involved tremendously in elections. So would it be unheard of if there wouldn’t be a bit of rigging here in this country?"

phill4paul
10-20-2016, 07:31 PM
"Americans" are rigging the U.S. elections. Flush it down,

timosman
10-20-2016, 07:35 PM
That is a good point. With a hundred year history of interfering in foreign elections, why wouldn't Washington do the same right here.

Because CIA can not operate on US soil(wink, wink), we have Posse Comitatus, constitution and a bunch of other stuff nobody cares about. Ohh, and also our politicians are incorruptible.

MelissaCato
10-20-2016, 08:01 PM
Well, everyone who did Ron Pauls "homework" at the local level during 2008 and 2012 elections (lol) knows who's doing what, where and when. I mean really, if Trump demands election fraud, we got his back. It's as simple as that.

Now, who did their homework ? LMAO

AZJoe
10-21-2016, 07:34 AM
LRC Interview


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v7PbaGir9o

Jesse James
10-21-2016, 07:47 AM
well said Mr. Rockwell

donnay
10-21-2016, 08:32 AM
Flashback: 1997 book The Grand Chessboard


One of the keys may be found by looking back at Zbigniew Brzezinski’s 1997 book, The Grand Chessboard in which he wrote, “Ukraine, a new and important space on the Eurasian chessboard, is a geopolitical pivot because its very existence as an independent country helps to transform Russia. Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be a Eurasian empire.”

“However, if Moscow regains control over Ukraine, with its 52 million people and major resources as well as access to the Black Sea, Russia automatically again regains the wherewithal to become a powerful imperial state, spanning Europe and Asia.”



Interestingly enough, it was Brzezinski who first compared Putin to Hitler in a March 3 Washington Post Editorial. Hillary Clinton followed-up the next day with her comments comparing the two, followed by John McCain and Marco Rubio who on March 5 agreed with Clinton’s comments comparing Putin and Hitler. Apparently Brzezinski still continues to influence US political speak.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-eurasian-chessboard-brzezinski-mapped-out-the-battle-for-ukraine-in-1997/5373707

Jerry C
10-21-2016, 08:55 AM
I find it real interesting how the DNC and the Clinton campaign are accusing the Russians of manipulating this election when e-mail leaks have proven that they defrauded Bernie Sanders out of the democratic nomination. It is all a distraction to keep people from talking about the corruption that those e-mails are exposing.

timosman
10-21-2016, 09:21 AM
I find it real interesting how the DNC and the Clinton campaign are accusing the Russians of manipulating this election when e-mail leaks have proven that they defrauded Bernie Sanders out of the democratic nomination. It is all a distraction to keep people from talking about the corruption that those e-mails are exposing.

Projection is frequently used by the left. It works really well most of the time.

Brian4Liberty
10-21-2016, 09:48 AM
Judith Miller was on Fox telling us that the real issue of this election is Putin, and that is what real journalists are concerned about. We shouldn't believe the leaks, because they are either out of context or edited. They had a whole bunch of her "accomplishments" and credentials up on the screen as she spoke, so we will all know that she is honest and legit.

AZJoe
09-09-2018, 10:42 AM
https://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/US-intervention-in-foreign-elections-MintPressNews-1145x635.jpg

Aratus
09-09-2018, 01:00 PM
Even when the four letters USSR are understood to be something different than RUSSIA,
STALIN would have been very happy had he been able to sway the 1948 election either
way, to the candidate of his choice. This fear expects that similar years like 1968, 2000,
2008 and 2012 can be sensed before they arrive. Usually the very thing that kept things
systemically from being manipulated across the board is our county system, to rig things
grandly prior to the age of electronics, you needed an "in" at the local county courthouse.
In a sense, the age of the large political machines, and horridly smoke filled rooms was
more difficult for outsiders to navigate. Electronic voting machines exist on a grid, sadly.

Swordsmyth
09-09-2018, 01:51 PM
Even when the four letters USSR are understood to be something different than RUSSIA,
STALIN would have been very happy had he been able to sway the 1948 election either
way, to the candidate of his choice. This fear expects that similar years like 1968, 2000,
2008 and 2012 can be sensed before they arrive. Usually the very thing that kept things
systemically from being manipulated across the board is our county system, to rig things
grandly prior to the age of electronics, you needed an "in" at the local county courthouse.
In a sense, the age of the large political machines, and horridly smoke filled rooms was
more difficult for outsiders to navigate. Electronic voting machines exist on a grid, sadly.
The vote was not hacked by Russia.

Aratus
09-09-2018, 02:03 PM
The vote was not hacked by Russia.

Not in Stalin's day.

Swordsmyth
09-09-2018, 02:13 PM
Not in Stalin's day.

Nor in 2016.

Aratus
09-09-2018, 02:26 PM
Nor in 2016.

Maybe Maybe Maybe!

At least say to me I am

not wrong in saying that

Putin beat out Cambridge

Analytica. Cleverly. And

Assange is either a hero,

a fool, a traitor or just a

tad more egotistical than

I am! Your choice! I think

Hillary assumed her server

was secure. WRONG. Same

can be said for some voting

machines. Muddied election.

Swordsmyth
09-09-2018, 02:33 PM
Maybe Maybe Maybe!

At least say to me I am

not wrong in saying that

Putin beat out Cambridge

Analytica.
You are wrong, CA had a much bigger effect than Russia.


And

Assange is either a hero,

a fool, a traitor or just a

tad more egotistical than

I am! Your choice!
Hero.


I think

Hillary assumed her server

was secure. WRONG.
She knew it wasn't secure, she put things on it for her customers to access.


Same

can be said for some voting

machines. Muddied election.
Voting machines are bad but they were not hacked by Russia.

Aratus
09-09-2018, 02:40 PM
Luv... Is HILLARY a technophile or a technophobe?
SHE might not have known there was a situation.
You need to frame the nature of the problem to then
address it adequately. Same goes for each county.

Swordsmyth
09-09-2018, 04:37 PM
Luv... Is HILLARY a technophile or a technophobe?
SHE might not have known there was a situation.
You need to frame the nature of the problem to then
address it adequately. Same goes for each county.
She has experts in her employ and she was warned.

AZJoe
10-01-2018, 08:12 PM
Not the Onion. This is the actual headline in the UK's DailyMail:

"MI6 regrets helping Vladimir Putin to get elected as Russia's President, former spy chief says (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6226105/MI6-regrets-helping-Vladimir-Putin-elected-Russias-President-former-spy-chief-says.html)"