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goldenequity
10-13-2016, 11:39 AM
ZEROHEDGE Obama To Decide Friday On Military Action In Syria (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-13/obama-decide-friday-military-action-syria)

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"The president asked all of the agencies
to put forward options, some familiar, some new, that we are very actively reviewing,"
"When we are able to work through these in the days ahead
we'll have an opportunity to come back and talk about them in detail."

Fast forward to today,
when as Reuters once again reports, the time has come for the US to make a decision:
on Friday President Barack Obama and his top foreign policy advisers
are expected to meet to consider their military and other options in Syria.

Naturally, this means that one set of options includes direct U.S. military action
such as air strikes on Syrian military bases, munitions depots or radar and anti-aircraft bases.

That is also the scenario which General Joseph Dunford warned
may lead to war with Russia.
Indeed, the quoted said one danger of such action is that Russian and Syrian forces
are often co-mingled, "raising the possibility of a direct confrontation with Russia that Obama has been at pains to avoid."
This is also known as the "world war" scenario.

Luckily, there are options.

MORE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-13/obama-decide-friday-military-action-syria)

alucard13mm
10-13-2016, 12:35 PM
It would be pretty funny if Obama starts something to call for martial law to prevent Hillary from getting into office haha. Just to troll her.

Zippyjuan
10-13-2016, 01:49 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-options-exclusiv-idUSKCN12D2B2


Friday's planned meeting is the latest in a long series of internal debates about what, if anything, to do to end a 5-1/2 year civil war that has killed at least 300,000 people and displaced half the country's population.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/12/unexpected-talks-syria-moscow-switzerland-us-russia-airstrikes-aleppo


Syria talks involving US to take place this weekend, says Lavrov

An unexpected round of multilateral talks on the future of Syria is to start on Saturday involving initially Russia, the US, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and possibly Qatar, the Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov has said. The talks will be held in Lausanne, Switzerland.

Lavrov told CNN he hoped that a meeting involving only those “with direct influence on the ground” in Syria would allow “a businesslike discussion, not another general assembly like debate”. It was not immediately clear whether Iran would be represented.

The UK, France and other European states will be excluded from the Lausanne meeting, but the US secretary of state, John Kerry, is expected to brief European foreign ministers in London afterwards.

Kerry announced he was ending bilateral contacts with Russia after a US-Russia brokered ceasefire broke down after less than a week, when the Syrian regime declared it over and resumed a Russian-backed air offensive against rebel-held eastern Aleppo. However, the state department said at the time that multilateral meetings on Syria would continue, including Russia.

The state department, announcing Kerry’s weekend talks, said tthe Lausanne and London talks were to “discuss a multilateral approach to resolving the crisis in Syria, including a sustained cessation of violence and the resumption of humanitarian aid deliveries”.

phill4paul
10-13-2016, 02:00 PM
I'm guessing they didn't seek out Ron Paul's advise WRT.

buck000
10-13-2016, 04:11 PM
I love how Syria is not invited to the discussions on what to do with Syria.

jllundqu
10-13-2016, 04:31 PM
I love how Syria is not invited to the discussions on what to do with Syria.

They couldn't get passports to the US funded ISIS commanders.... something about international terrorism.

PierzStyx
10-13-2016, 04:38 PM
If war with Russia does come I will not volunteer. I am already against the next war. If drafted I will not go. I would rather sit in prison than be a coward and become a state paid murderer. If my daughter has to lose her father for years I would rather it be because he refused to do evil than because he chose to embrace it.

AZJoe
10-13-2016, 04:42 PM
I love how Syria is not invited to the discussions on what to do with Syria.

You act as if Syria is a sovereign nation or something. Nonsense, they are all just pieces on Washington's grand chessboard to be played, controlled, exploited or sacrificed as Washington so commands.

buck000
10-14-2016, 08:40 AM
You act as if Syria is a sovereign nation or something. Nonsense, they are all just pieces on Washington's grand chessboard to be played, controlled, exploited or sacrificed as Washington so commands.

My bad, I forgot about that for a bit. :)

wizardwatson
10-14-2016, 08:44 AM
This dictator thing is so much easier than following the Constitution.

HEADLINE TRANSLATION: Obama puppet to inform boobus if our war mongering masters intend to escalate their support for terrorists in Syria, using military authorization granted previously to fight terrorism.

Zippyjuan
10-14-2016, 10:35 AM
You act as if Syria is a sovereign nation or something. Nonsense, they are all just pieces on Washington's grand chessboard to be played, controlled, exploited or sacrificed as Washington so commands.

US doesn't control Syria. Russia does.

juleswin
10-14-2016, 10:47 AM
US doesn't control Syria. Russia does.

Why do you have to be like this? where did he said US controls Syria? he said "to be, played, controlled" meaning a desire to control Syria which only the biggest, US empire ass kissers trolls still doubts. Also, Russia doesn't control Syria, they protect Syria from the kind of people you support.

jllundqu
10-14-2016, 11:01 AM
Any word on any decisions? I don't hear any air raid sirens..............yet

Zippyjuan
10-14-2016, 11:33 AM
Why do you have to be like this? where did he said US controls Syria? he said "to be, played, controlled" meaning a desire to control Syria which only the biggest, US empire ass kissers trolls still doubts. Also, Russia doesn't control Syria, they protect Syria from the kind of people you support.

Who sits on the other side of your chessboard? Or is the US the only player in international politics?

Root
10-14-2016, 11:37 AM
Is there gonna be a line? I hope it's a red line.

Lucille
10-14-2016, 12:26 PM
Does CONgress get a say, or is the debating society (http://www.wendymcelroy.com/news.php?extend.4833) too busy doing their real job (getting elected)?

goldenequity
10-14-2016, 06:34 PM
Jon Williams ‏@WilliamsJon 2m2 minutes ago Brooklyn, NY
After NSC on #Syria, WH clear: more of same. Military options "prepared" by Pentagon off the table.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DGNZnfKYnU

AZJoe
10-14-2016, 06:43 PM
US doesn't control Syria. Russia does.

So you admit Washington has lost it terrorist war to control Syria? You need to explain that to the terrorists in chief. Will they stop arming and funding their terrorist proxies via Salafi Arabia? Will they stop their bombing and move their flights and and advisers and troops out? Will they stop trying to overthrow the Syrian's government? Will they respect the will of the Syrian people? Will they leave? Will they allow Syria to choose its own future and trade with whomever it wants. Will they allow Syria to build a natural gas pipeline that brings Iranian gas to nations in Europe? Will they stop demanding a "no fly" zone to protect their terrorist proxies? Will they stop their propaganda war? Will the stop their sanctions?

As Zippy knows, Of course they won't. You know why? Because Washington does not respect the sovereignty of any nation. To Washington, Syria, like all nations, is merely a "piece on Washington's grand chessboard to be played, controlled, exploited or sacrificed as Washington so commands," and if they don't comply via threat or bribe, then Washington will use force and fraud and sanctions and terrorists and proxy wars or direct bombing to bring that piece where it wants. (a la Ukraine, Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Honduras, Yemen, and Syria - and these are just the most recent ones). It is the Washington way.

DamianTV
10-14-2016, 09:14 PM
US doesn't control Syria. Russia does.

... and the US definitely wants to make Russia another of its bitches. Global Domination means they also must control both Russia and Syria, but in ways that may not make the citizens suspicious.

Zippyjuan
10-15-2016, 01:43 PM
US isn't going to go to war against Russia.

DamianTV
10-15-2016, 01:46 PM
US isn't going to go to war against Russia.

Quit telling people to go back to sleep you Hypocrite MSM Tool! :mad:

-REP

Zippyjuan
10-15-2016, 01:48 PM
So you would like to see the US go to war against Russia. Why?

DamianTV
10-15-2016, 03:24 PM
So you would like to see the US go to war against Russia. Why?

War is the absolute LAST thing I want to see us get in to, however, what you are telling people is "DO NOT BOTHER PREPARING, THIS IS NORMAL". People need to be paying very close attention to what is going on and everything in their power to avert War. They will react quite differently when they are constantly distracted from probably the most important event in the history of the entire fucking planet that directly involves every living thing on earth because those with power want to KEEP that power, and that requires catching the unaware citizens off guard, which is exactly what you are trying to coerce people to doing.

enhanced_deficit
10-15-2016, 05:34 PM
ZEROHEDGE Obama To Decide Friday On Military Action In Syria (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-13/obama-decide-friday-military-action-syria)

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Bloodbath in Syria has been going on for years and many a "red lines" crossed in past years.. why Syria war hysteria now suddenly?

Os is it a "wag the dog" moment a week after this damaging video came out?

Video Surfaces Of Obama Flaunting His Junk to Reporters on Campaign Plane (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?502216-Erection-2008-Video-Surfaces-Of-Obama-Flaunting-His-Junk-to-Reporters-on-Campaign-Plane&)



His mentor hero Bill Clinton had bombed aspirin factories in Sudan to divert attention from Monica non-sex scandal.

Bill Clinton Bombs an Aspirin Factory
Bill Clinton Bombs an Aspirin Factory ... after President Clinton's appearance before a federal grand jury investigating his relationship with Monica Lewinsky.

Zippyjuan
10-15-2016, 06:43 PM
Bloodbath in Syria has been going on for years and many a "red lines" crossed in past years.. why Syria war hysteria now suddenly?

Os is it a "wag the dog" moment a week after this damaging video came out?

Video Surfaces Of Obama Flaunting His Junk to Reporters on Campaign Plane (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?502216-Erection-2008-Video-Surfaces-Of-Obama-Flaunting-His-Junk-to-Reporters-on-Campaign-Plane&)



His mentor hero Bill Clinton had bombed aspirin factories in Sudan to divert attention from Monica non-sex scandal.

Bill Clinton Bombs an Aspirin Factory
Bill Clinton Bombs an Aspirin Factory ... after President Clinton's appearance before a federal grand jury investigating his relationship with Monica Lewinsky.

You really like that Obama video. Turns you on, eh? You keep posting it (even though it doesn't show anything).

FSP-Rebel
10-16-2016, 12:14 AM
You really like that Obama video. Turns you on, eh? You keep posting it (even though it doesn't show anything).

Yep, it's pretty hot. Can we help you, Sir?

enhanced_deficit
10-16-2016, 06:30 AM
..(even though it doesn't show anything).

If that is the case, why CNN, MSNBC, WaPo,NYT have been playing it 24X7 since it came out?

It had over a million views already and was going viral.

If it is not "Wag the dog" thing, this question on timing then remains unanswered:

Bloodbath in Syria has been going on for years and many a "red lines" crossed in past years.. why Syria war hysteria now suddenly?

Zippyjuan
10-16-2016, 12:12 PM
Syria only made the news this week? Where have you been? Oh yeah- watching that Obama video.

DamianTV
10-16-2016, 03:59 PM
Its only been in the last week that the fucking President of Russia, not an Ambassador, bringing home as many Russian Citizens as possible, deploying Nuclear Weapon Launchers along the border of the Ukraine, started drills to evacuate Russian Citizens to Fallout Shelters, drawing a Red Line on Allepo, which Obama continues to try to cross to provoke Russia to attack first, having the US painting US Military Aircraft in Russian colors in order to set off a False Flag, etc. We are SECONDS to midnight on the Doomsday Clock, which translates to perhaps DAYS. Also hearing if Hittlary / Killary is elected that Putin will strike first as well as plans to THOW the Election by starting WWIII prior to the Election so it does NOT happen, Obama, in his final UN speech (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?502456-Obama-Enters-Media-Wars-Why-His-Recent-Attack-On-Free-Speech-Is-So-Dangerous&p=6334267&viewfull=1#post6334267) basically calling for the full surrender of US Soverignty to International Interests, full on attack on Free Speech to shut down ALL "Conspiracy Websites", and Im sure within two weeks we will have Martial Law.

This is as real as it gets, yet, Zippy continues to try to Spindoctor everything, the Economy is Awesome, Brexit and Quitaly is bad for us but the TPP is good, we arent going to have the CIA conduct a Cyber Attack on Russia, we arent going to war, Civil Unrest is no big deal. Zippy has sided with the Robber Baron War Monger MSM Liars.

When they tell you not to panic is when you should start panicking. Who do you believe?

Zippyjuan
10-16-2016, 04:32 PM
Its only been in the last week that the $#@!ing President of Russia, not an Ambassador, bringing home as many Russian Citizens as possible, deploying Nuclear Weapon Launchers along the border of the Ukraine, started drills to evacuate Russian Citizens to Fallout Shelters,

Ah- so it is Putin who is preparing for nuclear war. Don't forget they have been spending billions upgrading their nuclear weapons too while the US hasn't done so for decades.

DamianTV
10-16-2016, 05:16 PM
Good job, then you can act like "Huh? Why did they attack us? We certainly didn't provoke Russia AT ALL!" so we can have either Gulf of Tonkin or Pearl Harbor, THEN go to war with Russia. We are poking a big very pissed off bear. If you can not see this and genuinely think that you will benefit from the favors that the Elite are offering you, you are sadly mistaken and will end up getting just as screwed over as the rest of the world. Your gullibility knows no bounds.

Everyone else I think would be very wise to be on the HIGHEST state of alert that can be had as I highly doubt we will get ANY warning when the First Strike is launched against us on US soil.

Zippyjuan
10-16-2016, 05:27 PM
Everyone else I think would be very wise to be on the HIGHEST state of alert that can be had as I highly doubt we will get ANY warning when the First Strike is launched against us on US soil.

SO we should launch an all-out nuclear attack at the slightest event. I am glad you are not in charge of the nuclear football. That sounds like you are promoting nuclear war. I thought you said you were against it?

DamianTV
10-16-2016, 06:43 PM
SO we should launch an all-out nuclear attack at the slightest event. I am glad you are not in charge of the nuclear football. That sounds like you are promoting nuclear war. I thought you said you were against it?

Im not the one trying to piss the Russians off! What youre doing is playing right along with their game. Nothing to worry about, aw jeez, how did that happen?

Fucking PAID Troll.

phill4paul
10-16-2016, 06:59 PM
SO we should launch an all-out nuclear attack at the slightest event. I am glad you are not in charge of the nuclear football. That sounds like you are promoting nuclear war. I thought you said you were against it?

That's the biggest stretch of truth from a post I've read on RPF yet. Congratulations.

RJB
10-16-2016, 07:04 PM
Everyone else I think would be very wise to be on the HIGHEST state of alert that can be had as I highly doubt we will get ANY warning when the First Strike is launched against us on US soil.


SO we should launch an all-out nuclear attack at the slightest event. I am glad you are not in charge of the nuclear football. That sounds like you are promoting nuclear war. I thought you said you were against it?

I thought he was talking about everyone reading on the forum. For me, that means to stock my pantry. It may be a long (nuclear) winter.

enhanced_deficit
10-16-2016, 09:39 PM
Ah- so it is Putin who is preparing for nuclear war. Don't forget they have been spending billions upgrading their nuclear weapons too while the US hasn't done so for decades.

Many people say US is arming/financing violent Islamic jihadis to attack Russia in Syria, same way it was done in Afghanistan. But same policy after fall of WTc1/2/7 seems not smart.

And controversial Trump has been saying that Putin was building military while Obama was playing more golf than Tiger Woods. Is this really true?

http://cf.mp-cdn.net/a0/ad/b80ae7847eba801f17097ba2d2a0-is-the-us-really-eradicating-isis-because-russia-killed-more-isis-members-and-destroyed-more-bas.jpg




http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/siteupload/2015/10/SYRIAN-WAR.jpeg

vita3
10-17-2016, 06:43 AM
Russia is doing more good inside Syria then Saudi Arabia & Qatar. That's a fact

NATO backed jihads who have terrorized folks inside E Aleppo deserve to be eliminated.

Like to see Ron Paul & a coalition of reasonable, peace loving Americans to a "Skype" style chat with President Assad & try & STOP WW3.

vita3
10-18-2016, 06:52 AM
"Like to see Ron Paul & a coalition of reasonable, peace loving Americans to a "Skype" style chat with President Assad & try & STOP WW3. "

Anybody else like to see a little more pro peace activism, from the good DR. PAUL?

Spikender
10-18-2016, 07:05 AM
"Like to see Ron Paul & a coalition of reasonable, peace loving Americans to a "Skype" style chat with President Assad & try & STOP WW3. "

Anybody else like to see a little more pro peace activism, from the good DR. PAUL?

It would be a nice change of pace for sure. Talking is something the current puppet administration and the ones that came before it are not skilled at doing.

Also, yet another topic where Zippy is in full damage control and is even whipping out his own brand of brain-dead sarcasm.

otherone
10-18-2016, 03:17 PM
If war with Russia does come I will not volunteer. I am already against the next war. If drafted I will not go. I would rather sit in prison than be a coward and become a state paid murderer. If my daughter has to lose her father for years I would rather it be because he refused to do evil than because he chose to embrace it.

+rep

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing evil in the the guise of doing good. -Edmund Burke

enhanced_deficit
10-21-2016, 12:26 AM
In extraordinary cases, can't a person be given an additional second Nobel Peace Prize?

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Oct 19, 2016

The 12-Year War: 73% of U.S. Casualties in Afghanistan on Obama's Watch (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?427493-The-12-Year-War-73-of-U-S-Casualties-in-Afghanistan-on-Obama-s-Watch&)

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