AZJoe
10-01-2016, 11:08 AM
Syria - The Washington Propaganda Shams Now Openly Fail
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/09/syria-us-propaganda-shams-start-to-openly-fail-.html
The Obama administration, and especially the CIA and the State Department, seem to be in trouble. … But more and more major news accounts support the Russian allegation that the "moderate rebels" the U.S. is coddling in Syria are actually in cahoots with al-Qaeda if not al-Qaeda itself. …
Reuters reports …
“In Aleppo, rebels in the Free Syrian Army are sharing operational planning with Jaish al-Fatah, an alliance of Islamist groups that includes the former Syrian wing of al Qaeda. Meanwhile, in nearby Hama province, FSA groups armed with U.S.-made anti-tank missiles are taking part in a major offensive with the al Qaeda-inspired Jund al-Aqsa group.”
The Wall Street Journal …
“Some of Syria’s largest rebel factions are doubling down on their alliance with an al Qaeda-linked group, despite a U.S. warning to split from the extremists or risk being targeted in airstrikes. ... Some rebel groups already aligned with Syria Conquest Front responded by renewing their alliance. … others, such as Nour al-Din al-Zinki, a former Central Intelligence Agency-backed group and one of the largest factions in Aleppo, pledged allegiance for the first time to the front” …
Al.Qaeda affiliate Fateh al-Sham announced publicly that the CIA's Nour el-Din Zinki and Suqour al-Sham joined its Jihad …
[I]n State Department briefings, … Mark Toner downplayed the incidents, or the possibility that the US would stop arming Nour al-Din al-Zinki just because they beheaded a child ... Toner insisted [..] “one incident here and there would not necessarily make you a terrorist group.” http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2016/08/260813.htm#SYRIA …
an al-Qaeda commander … said that Nusra (aka al-Qaeda) were directly supplied, via a subgroup, with U.S. TOW missiles. He added:
“They are all with us. We are all the al-Nusra Front. A groups is created and calls itself "Islamic Army", or "Fateh al-Sham". Each group has its own name but their belief is homogeneous. The general name is al-Nusra Front. One person has, for example, 2,000 fighters. Then he creates from these a new group and calls it "Ahrar al-Sham". Brothers, who's believe, thoughts and aims are identical to those of al-Nusra Front.”
Another interview … with a Green Beret soldier … The soldier interviewed was ordered to train "moderate Syrian rebels" in Turkey … "No one on the ground believes in this mission or this effort”, a former Green Beret writes of America’s covert and clandestine … “they know we are just training the next generation of jihadis” ... “I don’t want to be responsible for Nusra guys saying they were trained by Americans,” the Green Beret added. …
distinguishing between the FSA and al-Nusra is impossible, because they are virtually the same organization. … they still retain the FSA monicker, but it is merely for show … so they can maintain access to weaponry provided by the CIA and Saudi intelligence services. … the FSA is little more than a cover for the al-Qaeda-affiliated al-Nusra. ...
The Russians are right. The U.S. did not separate the "moderate rebels" from al Qaeda, as it had agreed … because the "moderates" and al-Qaeda are the same. The "moderates" are al-Qaeda. … The 2012 Defense Intelligence Analysis said as much. The CIA of course knew this all along. But Saudi tool heading the CIA, John Brennan, cannot admit such as his masters in the Gulf are also the ones who finance al-Qaeda. They buy the weapons Brennan's people hand over to al-Qaeda. …
As the facts accumulate how long can the New York Times and Washington Post keep up with their propaganda claims? … Add that to dozens of stories on how "Russia indiscriminately bombs civilians/hospitals/bakeries in east-Aleppo" but never hits any "rebels" … No Russian military and no one from west-Aleppo, where by far most people in the city live under government protection and daily rocket hail by the "rebels", were even asked. … Like the "moderate rebels" fantasy, such tales and the nonsense the "White Helmet" propaganda outlet distributes, are starting to fail. … the White Helmet's creator, a "former" British military agent working for Gulf defense interests. That does not sound charitable. … The Obama administration's lies about the "moderate rebels" are now openly discussed in major media. The propaganda … is turning into a laughing stock. …
The CIA’s al-Qaeda "rebels" are losing in east-Aleppo … They will be bombed to smithereens. A few new BM-21 multiple missile launchers and heavier anti-air artillery was delivered to them. But those are just band-aids on lethally bleeding wounds. Even MANPADs will not change the situation one bit. The U.S., the Saudis and especially Brennan's CIA have lost that fight. Will Obama and Kerry admit it? Or will they throw another Hail Mary and do something crazy?
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/09/syria-us-propaganda-shams-start-to-openly-fail-.html
The Obama administration, and especially the CIA and the State Department, seem to be in trouble. … But more and more major news accounts support the Russian allegation that the "moderate rebels" the U.S. is coddling in Syria are actually in cahoots with al-Qaeda if not al-Qaeda itself. …
Reuters reports …
“In Aleppo, rebels in the Free Syrian Army are sharing operational planning with Jaish al-Fatah, an alliance of Islamist groups that includes the former Syrian wing of al Qaeda. Meanwhile, in nearby Hama province, FSA groups armed with U.S.-made anti-tank missiles are taking part in a major offensive with the al Qaeda-inspired Jund al-Aqsa group.”
The Wall Street Journal …
“Some of Syria’s largest rebel factions are doubling down on their alliance with an al Qaeda-linked group, despite a U.S. warning to split from the extremists or risk being targeted in airstrikes. ... Some rebel groups already aligned with Syria Conquest Front responded by renewing their alliance. … others, such as Nour al-Din al-Zinki, a former Central Intelligence Agency-backed group and one of the largest factions in Aleppo, pledged allegiance for the first time to the front” …
Al.Qaeda affiliate Fateh al-Sham announced publicly that the CIA's Nour el-Din Zinki and Suqour al-Sham joined its Jihad …
[I]n State Department briefings, … Mark Toner downplayed the incidents, or the possibility that the US would stop arming Nour al-Din al-Zinki just because they beheaded a child ... Toner insisted [..] “one incident here and there would not necessarily make you a terrorist group.” http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2016/08/260813.htm#SYRIA …
an al-Qaeda commander … said that Nusra (aka al-Qaeda) were directly supplied, via a subgroup, with U.S. TOW missiles. He added:
“They are all with us. We are all the al-Nusra Front. A groups is created and calls itself "Islamic Army", or "Fateh al-Sham". Each group has its own name but their belief is homogeneous. The general name is al-Nusra Front. One person has, for example, 2,000 fighters. Then he creates from these a new group and calls it "Ahrar al-Sham". Brothers, who's believe, thoughts and aims are identical to those of al-Nusra Front.”
Another interview … with a Green Beret soldier … The soldier interviewed was ordered to train "moderate Syrian rebels" in Turkey … "No one on the ground believes in this mission or this effort”, a former Green Beret writes of America’s covert and clandestine … “they know we are just training the next generation of jihadis” ... “I don’t want to be responsible for Nusra guys saying they were trained by Americans,” the Green Beret added. …
distinguishing between the FSA and al-Nusra is impossible, because they are virtually the same organization. … they still retain the FSA monicker, but it is merely for show … so they can maintain access to weaponry provided by the CIA and Saudi intelligence services. … the FSA is little more than a cover for the al-Qaeda-affiliated al-Nusra. ...
The Russians are right. The U.S. did not separate the "moderate rebels" from al Qaeda, as it had agreed … because the "moderates" and al-Qaeda are the same. The "moderates" are al-Qaeda. … The 2012 Defense Intelligence Analysis said as much. The CIA of course knew this all along. But Saudi tool heading the CIA, John Brennan, cannot admit such as his masters in the Gulf are also the ones who finance al-Qaeda. They buy the weapons Brennan's people hand over to al-Qaeda. …
As the facts accumulate how long can the New York Times and Washington Post keep up with their propaganda claims? … Add that to dozens of stories on how "Russia indiscriminately bombs civilians/hospitals/bakeries in east-Aleppo" but never hits any "rebels" … No Russian military and no one from west-Aleppo, where by far most people in the city live under government protection and daily rocket hail by the "rebels", were even asked. … Like the "moderate rebels" fantasy, such tales and the nonsense the "White Helmet" propaganda outlet distributes, are starting to fail. … the White Helmet's creator, a "former" British military agent working for Gulf defense interests. That does not sound charitable. … The Obama administration's lies about the "moderate rebels" are now openly discussed in major media. The propaganda … is turning into a laughing stock. …
The CIA’s al-Qaeda "rebels" are losing in east-Aleppo … They will be bombed to smithereens. A few new BM-21 multiple missile launchers and heavier anti-air artillery was delivered to them. But those are just band-aids on lethally bleeding wounds. Even MANPADs will not change the situation one bit. The U.S., the Saudis and especially Brennan's CIA have lost that fight. Will Obama and Kerry admit it? Or will they throw another Hail Mary and do something crazy?