War Footing: Kerry threatens to cut off all contacts with Russia

[goldenequity]

So yeah... let's call it what it is. :cool:

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The Associated Press
BREAKING: Kerry threatens to cut off all contacts with Russia over Syria, unless Russian and Syrian bombardment of Aleppo ends.

John Kerry has threatened to cut off all contact with Russia over Syria, unless Russian and Syrian bombardment of Aleppo ends. (http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/28/us-threatens-to-cut-off-all-contact-with-russia-over-syria-6158567/)

The US State Department says Kerry issued the ultimatum in a telephone call to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.


Moscow says US failed to separate rebels from terrorists in response to US ultimatum over Syria
(https://www.rt.com/usa/360971-kerry-russia-syria-talks/)

Al-Masdar News ‏@TheArabSource 29 sek.
US arming Nusra in Syria: #Lavrov (https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/us-arming-nusra-syria-lavrov/)

https://cdn.almasdarnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Nusra-fighters-696x392.jpg

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I realize 'cutting diplomatic ties' doesn't always mean war...
but the inmates are running the asylum.

[timosman]

A new low for Lavrov: being threatened by a pussy and having to fold.

[goldenequity]

Conflict News ‏@Conflicts 26m
BREAKING: Kerry tells Russian FM Lavrov
U.S. holds Russia responsible for downing of MH17: U.S. State Dept
- @XHNews

[goldenequity]

US Deep State Threatens Russia: Back Down or We Flood Syria With MANPADs (http://russia-insider.com/en/us-deep-state-threatens-russia-back-down-or-we-flood-syria-manpads/ri16711)


A source on Tuesday told Middle East Eye that the US had confirmed it would allow the two Gulf states to begin shipments.

"The US confirmed the green light to begin sending them to rebels through supply routes still open through Jordan and Turkey," the source said.

"Rebels are being told only to target Syrian helicopters, not Russian - but it's not clear they will abide by this.

"The US won't let Aleppo fall. We can expect to see Syrian helicopters falling from the sky within weeks."

[goldenequity]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQZ9pC6WUAElKNf.jpg

I wish the girlie girls had to pick up a rifle.

[John F Kennedy III]

Obama wouldn't be able to lift a rifle.

[juleswin]

If I was Lavrov, I wouldn't have picked up the phone. Just have a lol while the US frantically tries to call the Russians to stop attacking their mercs in Aleppo.

[puppetmaster]

If I was Lavrov, I wouldn't have picked up the phone. Just have a lol while the US frantically tries to call the Russians to stop attacking their mercs in Aleppo. lol so true

[goldenequity]

Kerry threatens to sever all Syria cooperation with Russia


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPGjqma5vxA

‘Russia will continue to send troops home in body bags’: US warns Moscow if Syria violence goes on (https://www.rt.com/usa/360992-us-warns-russia-violence/)

John Kirby: “more Russian lives will be lost, more Russian aircraft will be shot down,” he said."

(How is that NOT threatening to shoot down Russian aircraft if they don't stop killing their proxies, aligned with Nusra and resupplied via Turk 'Euphrates Shield' with American weapons coodinated with US military supervision and paid for by US Ally Saudi Arabia/Qatar/UAE? )


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Putin: US / NATO is irreversibly pushing the world towards nuclear war


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PgSX-WD96Q

No-fly zone would ‘require war with Syria and Russia’ – top US general


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmE9Jj-rEVs

[Origanalist]

Didn't John Kerry throw away his ill gotten metals from Vietnam? So now he's all Mr. Toughguy Warpig. Fuck you John Kerry, grab a gun and go get em toughguy.

[goldenequity]

MANPADS


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMpyUQqoI0g


(more in this piece than MANPADS... )

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'Aleppo must not fall': US allies to flood city with anti-aircraft missiles (http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/aleppo-must-not-fall-us-preparing-flood-city-anti-air-missiles-154690394)

"The US has resolved to prevent the fall of Aleppo and is preparing to allow its Gulf allies
to flood the city with shoulder-fired, anti-aircraft missiles,
according to a source with close contacts to rebel forces."

Annoying and provocative but not
a
game
changer.

[jllundqu]

Coming soon to a city near you!

http://www.todayifoundout.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/tsar-bomba1.jpg

[specsaregood]

Didn't John Kerry throw away his ill gotten metals from Vietnam? So now he's all Mr. Toughguy Warpig. Fuck you John Kerry, grab a gun and go get em toughguy.
it all goes back to that dinner out when assad excused himself to the bathroom when the check came, Kerry holds a grudge.

[Origanalist]

it all goes back to that dinner out when assad excused himself to the bathroom when the check came, Kerry holds a grudge.

Are you sure it wasn't because he used Hunts instead of Heinz?

[juleswin]

Are you sure it wasn't because he used Hunts instead of Heinz?

You guys are all wrong, Assad made fun of his towel face and he has been steaming since then.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQzJ5SHPFqvfBZ72EzBnTxv7tqOnygau zBvfwieYtu9HNSQFVp3

Imagine how it would feel if that was your face?

[Origanalist]

You guys are all wrong, Assad made fun of his towel face and he has been steaming since then.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQzJ5SHPFqvfBZ72EzBnTxv7tqOnygau zBvfwieYtu9HNSQFVp3

Imagine how it would feel if that was your face?

I...simply cannot.

[goldenequity]

"Aleppo is worse than a slaughterhouse" - Ban Ki-moon (euronews.com)
Can somebody PLEASE get these hypocrites to STFU!!!!!!

There were NO Syrian refugees before US/NATO started arming "moderate rebels" (Al Qaeda) in Syria.
none... even though the US started sanctions in 1979. They were stable and self reliant.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtceppjWAAAfdpy.jpg

Tell me, what do WE do for random citizens in the "rebel" held areas?
Srsly....what do we do except traffick weapons & pay the mercenaries...?
We USE humanitarian and relief orgs & NGOs to freeze conflicts that we incite after we subvert.
We're just fuckin AWESOME! :mad:

[AZJoe]

The Associated Press: Kerry threatens to cut off all contacts with Russia

Well, Kerry seem to have already cut off all ties with Reality.

[goldenequity]

Well I guess here is your answer John.

Al-Masdar News ‏@TheArabSource · 1 min.
Russian jets aggressively target jihadist rebels across #Aleppo (https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russian-jets-aggressively-target-jihadist-rebels-across-aleppo/)

https://cdn.almasdarnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Russian-airstrikes-over-Idlib.jpg

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TASS: Kremlin rules out Russian involvement in attack on civilians in Syria - Rejects War Crime Accusations (http://tass.com/politics/902904)

https://cdn2.tass.ru/width/744_b12f2926/tass/m2/en/uploads/i/20160929/1147337.jpg

[juleswin]

Well I guess here is your answer John.

Al-Masdar News ‏@TheArabSource · 1 min.
Russian jets aggressively target jihadist rebels across #Aleppo (https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russian-jets-aggressively-target-jihadist-rebels-across-aleppo/)

https://cdn.almasdarnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Russian-airstrikes-over-Idlib.jpg

News tomorrow would read "10 more Aleppo hospitals targeted by Russia" or "Chemical attacks used on "rebels"". Hopefully nobody would believe it.

[goldenequity]

Kremlin Says Continuing Russia’s Air Operation in Syria (https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/kremlin-says-continuing-russias-air-operation-syria/)

https://cdn.almasdarnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/manar-09407790014696423911-1-696x387.jpg

"Russia on Thursday said it is pressing on with its bombing campaign in Syria
despite the US warning it will end talks on the conflict if Moscow does not halt the assault on Aleppo."

[wizardwatson]

Kerry threatens to cut off all contacts with Russia

Hey, can regular Americans get this deal, or is this just something we're offering Russia? Kind of jelly.

[Lucille]

US To Suspend Syria Diplomacy With Russia, Prepares "Military Options"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-29/us-suspend-syria-diplomacy-russia-prepares-military-options


24 hours later, this appears to be precisely what is about to take place, leading to an even greater geopolitical shock in Syria. According to Retuers, the United States is expected to tell Russia on Thursday it is suspending their diplomatic engagement on Syria following the Russian-backed Syrian government's intense attacks on Aleppo, U.S. officials said on condition of anonymity.

Why now and what happens next? According to US officials, the Obama administration is now considering tougher responses to the Russian-backed Syrian government assault on Aleppo, including military options. According to Reuters, the new discussions were being held at "staff level," and have yet to produce any recommendations to President Barack Obama, who has resisted ordering military action against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in the country's multi-sided civil war.

However, now that diplomacy with Russia is set to end, this will give the greenlight for Obama to send in US troops in Syria, with Putin certain to respond appropriately, in what will be the biggest military escalation in the Syrian proxy war in its five and a half year history.

They're nuts. They'd rather start WWIII than take responsibility for their many disasters.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtCH49QQLGg

Related:

http://knuckledraggin.com/2016/09/the-final-battle/


US SPECIAL forces are encircling a jihadi stronghold in Syria claimed by ISIS to be in old Islamic prophecy as the site of the final battle – triggering the apocalypse.

According to the extremists’ twisted ideology, Dabiq – a tiny town in northern Syria – will see a “major apocalyptic showdown with the armies of the infidel” that will result in the collapse of civilisation.

And Turkish troops backed by American commandos are understood to be just three miles from the town.

ISIS claim the battle will erupt in a field outside the small town, which in 2004 recorded a population of just 3,000 people.
[...]
According to the prophecy, one third of the Islamist fighters will flee the town while another third will be killed.

But the group believes the remaining third will survive the battle and triumph against the Western forces.

I don't know about that, but I sure wish Jesus would make it snappy!

[goldenequity]

War is an historic way to hide default. It's true.

[AZJoe]

What the CIA Does When their Mark Won't Fight


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IiS6Fehd44

[juleswin]

What the CIA Does When their Mark Won't Fight


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IiS6Fehd44

Wow, I can't believe I just heard what I heard. This man is openly talking about stirring shit up with Iran, Syria and Russia for what reasons that probably not related to fighting terrorism.

Isnt this the same guy that said the US avoided bombing ISIS oil tankers because they were needed to rebuilt Syria after Assad was gone?

[presence]

Kerry threatens to cut off all contacts with Russia




"For some people that is all they need simply to climb under the sheets, close their eyes and wish the world away. And shockingly we even see this attitude from some who think they should be trusted with the job of managing international affairs[.] It seems obvious that understanding the need to engage with greater world, with the wider world, should be a threshold requirement for those in high office. []Yet the specter of isolationism once again hovers over our nation." - John Kerry May 6th 2016

[goldenequity]

US Plan 'B'


US Could Have Plotted to Use Terrorists as 'Plan B' in Fight With Assad - Lavrov (https://sputniknews.com/politics/20160930/1045869114/moscow-syria-us-plan-b.html)

https://cdn2.img.sputniknews.com/images/102789/24/1027892418.jpg

syria 24 english ‏@syria24english · 20 min.
#LAVROV CALLS UNACCEPTABLE THREATS #US. CLAIMS OF ATTACKS ON #RUSSIA IN CONNECTION WITH ITS OPERATIONS IN #SYRIA #Syria24

Russia Does Not Use Banned Weapons in Syria - Lavrov (https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160930/1045870774/russia-syria-weapons.html)

https://cdn5.img.sputniknews.com/images/103371/72/1033717271.jpg


"We do not use any ammunition prohibited by the UN. You can rest assured," Lavrov said in an interview with the BBC broadcaster.

The diplomat said "compelling evidence" should be presented before accusing Moscow
of attacking the civilian population in Syria.
Russia is taking all necessary measures to avoid civilian hardship in Syria
amid an ongoing military campaign there, Sergey Lavrov said.
"We are taking all the necessary precautions to avoid civilian casualties.
Collateral damage was caused not by us, but you know who.
At the same time, as I said we are doing everything possible to avoid civilian casualties in any scenario.
If that happens, we are very sorry about this,
but each charge should be thoroughly investigated," Lavrov said in an interview with the BBC World.


Aggressive US Envoy to UN Uses Inappropriate Language - Lavrov (https://sputniknews.com/politics/20160930/1045871352/russia-mfa-us-un.html)

https://cdn2.img.sputniknews.com/images/104587/13/1045871373.jpg


Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that it is absolutely unacceptable
to use rhetoric and language, such as US Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power uses.

"I think she is somewhat aggressive for a US representative.
We believe that it is absolutely unacceptable to use such rhetoric, such language,"
Lavrov said in an interview with the BBC World broadcaster.

"I do not want to discuss the manners of our partners,
and prefer to focus on the facts, not hysterical statements of people who lose self-control," he reiterated.

[Lucille]

The BSC! SOBs are really going to do it. PCR's (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/) Armageddon talk doesn't seem so hyperbolic now.


Americans need to wake up (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/07/22/armageddon-approaches-paul-craig-roberts/) to the dangerous situation that Washington has created, but I doubt they will. Most wars happen without the public’s knowledge until they happen.


Western peoples must pour into the streets or Washington will end their lives with nuclear war. (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/10/01/will-we-exist-tomorrow/) All of the evil of the world in concentrated in Washington. Washington is Mordor. The American president regardless of party is Sauron.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/us-suspends-bilateral-diplomatic-relations-russia-syria


What last week was just a not-so-thinly-veiled-threat lobbed by John Kerry to the Kremlin has, now that Russia suspended its participation in a Plutonium cleanup accord with the US, become official, and as the State Department announced moments ago, the US has now suspended bilateral discussions, i.e. diplomatic relations, with Russia over Syria, escalating the conflict in the war-torn nation to a level last seen in late 2015.

"This is not a decision that was taken lightly," State Department spokesman John Kirby said, cited by AFP, accusing Russia and its Syrian ally of stepping up attacks on civilian areas. Kirby said the Russian and US militaries will continue to use a communications channel set up to ensure their forces do not get in each others' way during "counterterrorism operations in Syria."

Kirby's full statement is below:
[...]
The United States is calling home personnel who had been sent to Geneva in order to set-up a "Joint Implementation Center" with Russian officers to plan coordinated strikes.

And US diplomats will suspend discussions with Russia on reviving a September 9 deal reached between US Secretary of State John Kerry and Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. Under that protocol, a truce came into effect on September 12 but it collapsed within a week amid bitter recriminations and a surge of fighting in the five-year-old civil war.

Washington has accused Moscow of failing to rein in President Bashar al-Assad's government forces and abetting his strikes on civilian targets. Moscow, meanwhile, says the United States failed to separate "moderate" anti-Assad rebels from Al Qaeda-linked jihadists.

"Unfortunately, Russia failed to live up to its own commitments, including its obligations under international humanitarian law," Kirby said, in the statement.

According to the US spokesman, Russia was "either unwilling or unable to ensure Syrian regime adherence to the arrangements to which Moscow agreed.

"Rather, Russia and the Syrian regime have chosen to pursue a military course, inconsistent with the Cessation of Hostilities, as demonstrated by their intensified attacks against civilian areas." Kirby accused Moscow and Damascus of "targeting of critical infrastructure such as hospitals, and preventing humanitarian aid from reaching civilians in need."

Kirby repeated Washington's charge that Russia and the regime were responsible for the deadly September 19 attack on a United Nations aid convoy in northern Syria, outside Aleppo. He had nothing to say about the confirmed US-alliance strike on Syrian troops that killed over 60 soldiers.

While we await the Russian response, we can't help but note that the drums of (global, non-proxy) war in Syria are beating ever louder. The next escalatory step from the US at this point would be to send US troops in Syria, which would be promptly met with a matched retaliatory response by Russia, and perhaps China too, which as reported several weeks ago, informally joined the conflict on the side of Syria's president Assad when it said it would provide "aid and military training" to Syria's current president.

[Lucille]

WWIII Incubator
It gets more dangerous by the day
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/10/eric-margolis/wwiii-incubator/


OK, you Russians! No more gentle American diplomacy! No more Mr. Nice Guy! So thundered US Secretary of State John Kerry last week.

Right on cue, the usually overwrought US ambassador to the UN, Samantha Power, blasted the Russians as ‘barbaric’ for their bombing campaign in Syria. She made no mention of the US using B-52 and B-1 heavy bombers as well as killer drones in Afghanistan. The lapdog US and British media were quick to run anguished pictures of Syrian babies but we saw narry a picture of an injured Afghan child.

Noble Peace Prize winner, Barack Obama, ducked and left Washington’s growing anti-Russian jihad to his aides while he flew off to Israel for the state funeral of the Shimon Peres, by now sainted by media as Israel’s ‘man of peace.’ In fact, Peres was the father of Israel’s nuclear weapons programs.
[...]
Back in Washington, just about everyone is now ignoring lame duck Obama and doing their own thing. Recently, the Pentagon, which has no use for Obama, likely sabotaged joint US-Russians plan to end the bloody Syrian civil war by bombing a Syrian Army camp and killing close to 100 Syrian troops. ‘Ooops, sorry, a mistake’ explained the Pentagon.

More Russian warplanes are on the way to Syria. Ominously, Moscow just warned the US not to attack Russian military forces. Hillary Clinton’s supporters keep urging a so-called US-imposed ‘no-fly zone’ in Syria, which is code for the US Air Force blowing Syria’s and Russia’s warplanes out of the skies and going after command control of Syria’s anti-aircraft systems. Which could be code for World War III.
[...]
Part of the reason for this intensified bellicosity is that Syrian government forces, backed by Russian air power, are making important if bloody progress in their siege of rebel-held sections of Aleppo.

At the same time, Turkey is decreasing its five-year-old support for Syria’s rebels, including the al-Qaida-allied Nusra Front (new relabled Jabhat Fateh al-Sham). The Saudis and Gulf emirates, who are financing much of the civil war, are hard up for cash. All sides in this bitter five-year-old conflict are exhausted and war-weary. Once lovely Syria lies in ruins. For the extreme Sunni insurgents their best hope is direct US military intervention. They are waiting for the hawkish Hillary Clinton.

Russia’s foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, claimed this week that Washington is protecting the Nusra Front as its ‘Plan B’ for Syria. He also asserted that the US will install Nusra in Damascus in the event that President Assad’s government falls. But the majority of Syrians and all its minorities would be bitterly opposed to being ruled by fanatical Wahabi Islamists.

This writer believes the US has long aided ISIS and still sees it as a potent weapon against the Assad government. Why else would it take the US and its Arab and Kurdish foot soldiers so long to move against ISIS strongholds at Raqqa and Mosul– which are, as this writer knows, only a taxi-ride away? ISIS is a rag-tag bunch of 20-something amateur Rambos, not the Wehrmacht.

One likely answer is that imperial Washington is totally confused over whom to support and how to do it. The bewildering fracas between Sunnis, Shia, Kurds, Arabs, Yazidis, assorted Christians, ISIS wildmen, egged on the US, Israel, Turkey, Russia, France, Britain, Lebanon, Jordan, the oil Arabs is just too much for Washington’s ill-educated, or often downright dim policy makers.

This writer has long believed that certain elements in Washington helped create ISIS as a potentially useful tool against non-obedient Mideast regimes, notably Syria and Libya. Israel, which whispers a lot into Washington’s ears, did the same thing by encouraging the growth of Hezbollah and Hamas as enemies of the Palestine Liberation Organization. Today, they are Israel’s toughest enemies, not the utterly corrupt regimes that run the Arab world.

The bright idea to overthrow Syria’s recognized government goes back to that Father of Disasters, George W. Bush. He planned to attack Syria with Israel. Bush was restrained when no suitable Syrian opposition group could be found to install in power. The Sunni opposition was mainly Muslim Brotherhood, a name that spooked Washington. So Washington waited until 2011 to ‘regime change’ disobedient Syria.