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Brian4Liberty
09-13-2016, 03:56 PM
Edward Snowden makes 'moral' case for presidential pardon (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/13/edward-snowden-why-barack-obama-should-grant-me-a-pardon)

Exclusive: Whistleblower says citizens have benefited from his disclosure in 2013 of US and UK government surveillance


Edward Snowden has set out the case for Barack Obama granting him a pardon before the US president leaves office in January, arguing that the disclosure of the scale of surveillance by US and British intelligence agencies was not only morally right but had left citizens better off.

The US whistleblower’s comments, made in an interview with the Guardian, came as supporters, including his US lawyer, stepped up a campaign for a presidential pardon. Snowden is wanted in the US, where he is accused of violating the Espionage Act and faces at least 30 years in jail.

Speaking on Monday via a video link from Moscow, where he is in exile, Snowden said any evaluation of the consequences of his leak of tens of thousands of National Security Agency and GCHQ documents in 2013 would show clearly that people had benefited.

“Yes, there are laws on the books that say one thing, but that is perhaps why the pardon power exists – for the exceptions, for the things that may seem unlawful in letters on a page but when we look at them morally, when we look at them ethically, when we look at the results, it seems these were necessary things, these were vital things,” he said.

“I think when people look at the calculations of benefit, it is clear that in the wake of 2013 the laws of our nation changed. The [US] Congress, the courts and the president all changed their policies as a result of these disclosures. At the same time there has never been any public evidence that any individual came to harm as a result.”

Although US presidents have granted some surprising pardons when leaving office, the chances of Obama doing so seem remote, even though before he entered the White House he was a constitutional lawyer who often made the case for privacy and had warned about the dangers of mass surveillance.

Obama’s former attorney general Eric Holder, however, gave an unexpected boost to the campaign for a pardon in May when he said Snowden had performed a public service.
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More: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/13/edward-snowden-why-barack-obama-should-grant-me-a-pardon

Video at link.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/13/edward-snowden-why-barack-obama-should-grant-me-a-pardon

TheCount
09-13-2016, 03:59 PM
There's no way. It would be political suicide for whichever party pardoned him.

Brian4Liberty
09-13-2016, 04:13 PM
There's no way. It would be political suicide for whichever party pardoned him.

One could make the argument that Obama is ready to leave, so he has the freedom to give immunity or a pardon. But is Obama's political career really over? No doubt he has concerns about the future of Michelle's political career. Pardoning a laundry list of crony criminals is standard procedure, and no doubt Obama will be generous with his pardons. Whistle-blowers on the other hand, would be controversial.

Zippyjuan
09-13-2016, 04:16 PM
Snowden wants to come home. He has also been critical of his Russian hosts lately. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?500834-Edward-Snowden-attacks-Russia-over-human-rights-and-hacking

His visa extension (residency permit) there was for three years- it will expire in 2017. Russia was certainly not his first choice for accommodations.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-grants-edward-snowden-residency-permit-1407417625


"I had a flight booked to Cuba and onward to Latin America and I was stopped because the United States government decided to revoke my passport and trap me in the Moscow airport," he said in an interview with NBC television this year. "So when people ask 'Why are you in Russia?' I say, 'Please ask the State Department.' "

According to his lawyer, Mr. Snowden has obtained a job in Russia with regular pay—a requirement for receiving a Russian residency permit.

But Mr. Kucherena has declined to specify the exact nature of his client's position or the employer. On Thursday, the lawyer said Mr. Snowden also has access to a fund that receives donations from private individuals and nongovernmental organizations.

Anti Federalist
09-13-2016, 04:24 PM
Don't do it Ed...you'll get stabbed in the back and find yourself in a federal rape cage for the rest of your life.

Schifference
09-13-2016, 04:48 PM
Hack into the system and delete all the evidence against you.

TheCount
09-13-2016, 06:22 PM
One could make the argument that Obama is ready to leave, so he has the freedom to give immunity or a pardon. But is Obama's political career really over? No doubt he has concerns about the future of Michelle's political career. Pardoning a laundry list of crony criminals is standard procedure, and no doubt Obama will be generous with his pardons. Whistle-blowers on the other hand, would be controversial.

I can see a slim possibility if Trump won.

Even still, I think that it would do permanent damage to the democratic party.

Brian4Liberty
09-13-2016, 06:57 PM
Don't do it Ed...you'll get stabbed in the back and find yourself in a federal rape cage for the rest of your life.

If he was in a special protected category, maybe Obama would help him out. Maybe he can get a sex change? Hold on, someone tried that and it didn't help. Just goes to show, government whistle-blowers are enemy number one, or as Snowden called it, there is a "war on whistle blowers", and like all of the other so-called wars, Obama has expanded them all.