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jct74
09-08-2016, 04:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWyyEkOlIEU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF-5cp7ZPV8

eleganz
09-08-2016, 05:36 PM
Second video @ 5:38

Joy Beyhar asks a question about guns and he mentions AR15 is in the same category as hunting rifles, she asks automatic files, he says no automatic rifles as the law states for two decades and she was so confused, lmao.

What a dumbass....

CaptUSA
09-08-2016, 05:55 PM
Are we sure he's stopped toking? He seems high as fuck.

RJ Liberty
09-08-2016, 10:19 PM
Second video @ 5:38

Joy Beyhar asks a question about guns and he mentions AR15 is in the same category as hunting rifles, she asks automatic files, he says no automatic rifles as the law states for two decades and she was so confused, lmao.

What a dumbass....

Yep! Especially since, as I recall, Rand did this show not too long ago, she asked the same question, and he gave her the same response then. Wish I could find that clip...

I love that Raven and the lady on the right-hand side are very supportive of the campaign. Joy Bayhar was in attack mode, but she was the only host who was, and the studio audience sure seemed receptive.

Jordan Liberty
09-08-2016, 10:46 PM
Wow, Gary actually handled that well. The gun to the head bit was great. And that Joyce cunt is what's wrong with this country. She parades herself as this uber liberal but is very close-minded.

Brian4Liberty
09-08-2016, 11:07 PM
I hope Gary is able to capture as much of the Democrat vote as possible.

Natural Citizen
09-08-2016, 11:11 PM
I hope Gary is able to capture as much of the Democrat vote as possible.

It'd be nice if he did. I just can't bring myself to buy into these polls. Everybody knows how that works by now.

jct74
09-08-2016, 11:27 PM
The lady on the far right (Jedediah Bila) is a self-described libertarian by the way. She just started as a regular host this week, which is pretty cool I think to have someone finally representing a libertarian perspective on a show previously dominated by a bunch of big-government yentas. She also supported Rand Paul for president and is now supporting Gary Johnson.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/08/10/exclusive-jedediah-bila-talks-the-view-and-andrew-breitbart/



Also, Joy Behar is a cunt.

RJ Liberty
09-08-2016, 11:35 PM
The lady on the far right (Jedediah Bila) is a self-described libertarian by the way. She just started as a regular host this week, which is pretty cool I think to have someone finally representing a libertarian perspective on a show previously dominated by a bunch of big-government yentas. She also supported Rand Paul for president and is now supporting Gary Johnson.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/08/10/exclusive-jedediah-bila-talks-the-view-and-andrew-breitbart/
Ah, thanks! I hadn't seen her before; although I'm not a regular viewer of the show, I've seen enough episodes that I recognized the other ladies. Yes, definitely cool to have another libertarian in the media. Though we need more...



Also, Joy Behar is a $#@!.
Total cunt.

Brian4Liberty
09-08-2016, 11:37 PM
The lady on the far right (Jedediah Bila) is a self-described libertarian by the way. She just started as a regular host this week, which is pretty cool I think to have someone finally representing a libertarian perspective on a show previously dominated by a bunch of big-government yentas. She also supported Rand Paul for president and is now supporting Gary Johnson.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/08/10/exclusive-jedediah-bila-talks-the-view-and-andrew-breitbart/


Also, Joy Behar is a $#@!.

Gary should have ripped into that POS Behar with twice the venom that he used when getting all politically correct about "illegal immigrants" earlier in the week.

Like I said, I hope he gets as many Democrat votes as possible.

Champuckett
09-09-2016, 07:38 AM
What's interesting to note, is GJ says for the first time I can remember, states that the goal is to get into the debates, whether it is the 2nd or beyond.

This is slightly changing his tune that there is pressure to get into the first debate and reach that 15% mark in time to qualify. I think him and his campaign see that they are lagging too far behind with too little time left and are now pivoting to reach any of the debates, rather than putting emphasis on the first debate.

It's a shame and sad to see that they came so close, better than I think anyone would have figured before this campaign season began, and to be just 5ish points short kind of hurts. Unfortunately there are still too many "lesser evil" voters still out there and incessantly shaking them with facts about how the duopoly exists and prevents any real change from happening is not a message that has gotten through to a difference making extent.

Champuckett
09-09-2016, 07:44 AM
I hope that the momentum from GJ with the Libertarian Party and even Jill Stein with the Green Party continues making 3rd party candidates legitimate. We've now seen the true colors of both major parties at their respective national conventions go to great lengths to erase and ignore any non-establishment serious attempts at winning the nomination now in both 2012 and 2016.

Maybe I am getting my hopes up, but I'm really hoping that translates into some serious efforts by voters to start voting for 3rd party candidates well above the 15% mark in 2020 and beyond.

CaptUSA
09-09-2016, 08:00 AM
It's a shame and sad to see that they came so close, better than I think anyone would have figured before this campaign season began, and to be just 5ish points short kind of hurts. Unfortunately there are still too many "lesser evil" voters still out there and incessantly shaking them with facts about how the duopoly exists and prevents any real change from happening is not a message that has gotten through to a difference making extent.

Fear is a powerful motivator. When people act out of fear, they often make irrational decisions that they regret later. But they will act. Fear makes people move. Or in this case, vote for whoever promises to allay their fear. The duopoly relies on this.

AZJoe
09-09-2016, 08:20 AM
I love the quote by, I think it was Jebdiah Bila (not a regular viewer of show):


"To me youíre not a spoiler.
This two party system has failed so many people.
To me you are someone who stands for something.
Iím glad youíre in the race.
And you know what, if it takes votes from this one, or it takes votes from that one, it forces those candidates to be better candidates. And it makes this country better that youíre in the race."

RJ Liberty
09-09-2016, 09:33 AM
I love the quote by, I think it was Jebdiah Bila (not a regular viewer of show):

"To me you’re not a spoiler.
This two party system has failed so many people.
To me you are someone who stands for something.
I’m glad you’re in the race.
And you know what, if it takes votes from this one, or it takes votes from that one, it forces those candidates to be better candidates. And it makes this country better that you’re in the race."



Same here! I thought that was excellent.

nikcers
09-09-2016, 10:04 AM
That bullet in the head question had two meanings. If he is a true outsider, is he willing to be JFK'd or choose Trump or Hillary?

adissa
09-09-2016, 10:08 AM
I hope Gary is able to capture as much of the Democrat vote as possible.
Me too. That will help Trump. Anything that helps Trump, I'm all for it.

CaptUSA
09-09-2016, 10:58 AM
Me too. That will help Trump. Anything that helps Trump, I'm all for it.

Ugh.

Ok, whatever it takes, I guess. Then you should really be trying to get Johnson some attention. Because the only way the GOP has a chance of winning this election is if Hillary is deprived 270 and there is absolutely zero chance that Trump does that by himself.

undergroundrr
09-09-2016, 11:26 AM
Me too. That will help Trump. Anything that helps Trump, I'm all for it.

Great observation. If you truly love trump unconditionally and think that he's a great candidate, you should vote for him. I honestly don't think trump has a chance, but it would be voting your conscience.

On the other hand - Anybody who hates Hillary more than they love trump should consider supporting Johnson. It's becoming clear that he's the one chance we have to keep her out of office.

undergroundrr
09-09-2016, 11:36 AM
I think his interaction with Behar in that video is golden. I for one would love to have had the opportunity to personally tell her she's wasting her vote on Hillary. He does it with good humor and has everybody laughing with him.

Behar is so tied in to the DNC. It's a real eye-opener that she blurts out on the air that he's a threat to Clinton.

nikcers
09-09-2016, 11:45 AM
I think his interaction with Behar in that video is golden. I for one would love to have had the opportunity to personally tell her she's wasting her vote on Hillary. He does it with good humor and has everybody laughing with him.

Behar is so tied in to the DNC. It's a real eye-opener that she blurts out on the air that he's a threat to Clinton.

The republicans and democrats are shaking in their boots because their base isn't going to show up. Both sides of establishment are spending billions getting people not to vote for their candidate instead of getting people to vote for their unpopular candidate. The amount of young people that will vote for a third party is brand new to election politics. The Ron Paul and Sanders coalition have not aligned but they still exist and the powers that be are afraid of it.

PierzStyx
09-09-2016, 11:58 AM
So..... Is Gary stoned here?

You know, I like Gary. I'm not voting for him. I don't agree with the violence of the system itself. But, that said, at least Gary doesn't seem like a complete a-hole. He smiles, he seems nice, he is kind to others. He doesn't look plastic or virtolic. I suddenly really understand why the LP chose him.

That was a fantastic interview.

Ender
09-09-2016, 12:37 PM
Are we sure he's stopped toking? He seems high as $#@!.

Nah- just a nice guy- very refreshing.

Ender
09-09-2016, 12:40 PM
So..... Is Gary stoned here?

You know, I like Gary. I'm not voting for him. I don't agree with the violence of the system itself. But, that said, at least Gary doesn't seem like a complete a-hole. He smiles, he seems nice, he is kind to others. He doesn't look plastic or virtolic. I suddenly really understand why the LP chose him.

That was a fantastic interview.

Agree-

Reminds me a bit of my grandfather: "In politics be conservative; in all other things be liberal".

Of course he meant conservative & liberal in the original meaning of the words.

And Gary's not stoned. ;)

nikcers
09-09-2016, 12:50 PM
Nah- just a nice guy- very refreshing.
Its a generational thing.



For me and my entire generation, we took on this kind of sarcastic, ironic, snarkiness because it seemed the most extreme reaction to the earnestness of hippies. -Chuck Palahniuk

liveandletlive
09-09-2016, 06:50 PM
Most dumbass Muricans couldnt find Syria on a map either but for a presidential candidate there really is no excuse.

Rudeman
09-09-2016, 11:21 PM
He made Behar look like a total idiot (not hard to do but still nice to see). She was baffled at his response about guns. I'm surprised Whoopie didn't chime in with idiotic statements like she did with Rand.

Natural Citizen
09-09-2016, 11:24 PM
Most dumbass Muricans couldnt find Syria on a map either but for a presidential candidate there really is no excuse.

Eh. The Generals know where it's at. That's really all that matters. :cool:

LibertyEagle
09-10-2016, 02:10 AM
Great observation. If you truly love trump unconditionally and think that he's a great candidate, you should vote for him. I honestly don't think trump has a chance, but it would be voting your conscience.

On the other hand - Anybody who hates Hillary more than they love trump should consider supporting Johnson. It's becoming clear that he's the one chance we have to keep her out of office.

You need new glasses.

H. E. Panqui
09-10-2016, 10:18 AM
brian 4 liberty writes: I hope Gary is able to capture as much of the Democrat vote as possible.

:confused:

...is this the first time you've revealed that you favor trump over hillary? ...in your opinion, what is the important difference favoring stinking trump over stinking hillary?... :confused:

...maybe similarly, i provoked a bet with a friend and glenn beck fan that stinking beck will make a conversion to team drumpf..(i sense it might be just a few days before the ($)election)...i got 5-1 odds..you'd have to be a goddamned fool to turn that down! ;)

undergroundrr
09-10-2016, 11:20 AM
brian 4 liberty writes: I hope Gary is able to capture as much of the Democrat vote as possible.

:confused:

...is this the first time you've revealed that you favor trump over hillary? ...in your opinion, what is the important difference favoring stinking trump over stinking hillary?... :confused:

Not presuming to answer for Brian. But wanting Hillary to get less votes doesn't mean one favors trump. Johnson nabbing electoral votes means the very real possibility of having neither trump nor Hillary as president. As a bonus, if Johnson + Stein steal more from Hillary but she still wins (I'd imagine Castle spoils trump more), at least she doesn't achieve quite as large of a landslide and mandate.

timosman
09-11-2016, 03:08 PM
He was not high.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlDgh6WM-Cc

Lindsey
09-11-2016, 03:54 PM
For MSM, I thought that was pretty fair and he did alright.

nikcers
09-11-2016, 04:14 PM
He is getting better at this but he still sounds like a bewildered Adam West William Shatner mashup sometimes. He needs to speak more fluidly if he wants to catch on. I've never paid attention to him until 2016 though, this is the year for the death of the Republican party. Maybe the Libertarians will rise from the ashes?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCurqLMgBus

69360
09-11-2016, 04:15 PM
I don't think he could have done any better.

dannno
09-11-2016, 04:38 PM
lol.. Joy is such a biatchh...

RJ Liberty
09-11-2016, 09:11 PM
He is getting better at this but he still sounds like a bewildered Adam West William Shatner mashup sometimes. He needs to speak more fluidly if he wants to catch on. I've never paid attention to him until 2016 though, this is the year for the death of the Republican party. Maybe the Libertarians will rise from the ashes?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCurqLMgBus

I think Gary's speech pattern is quite similar to Ron Paul's. This was a good interview, and it's nice to see Fox News didn't try any "gotcha" questions.

nikcers
09-11-2016, 09:21 PM
I think Gary's speech pattern is quite similar to Ron Paul's. This was a good interview, and it's nice to see Fox News didn't try any "gotcha" questions.

Not nearly as good of speaker as Ron Paul, a lot of the way he words his foreign policy and stuff like that is phrased the same way as Ron Paul. Even Ron Paul isn't a great speaker, think Trump he is a great speaker but he uses dumb words and has a shit foreign policy. This dubbed video really highlights the difference in delivery styles in an exaggerated but realistic real world comparison.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?500888-Meet-a-Hillary-impersonator&p=6310113&viewfull=1#post6310113

Brian4Liberty
09-12-2016, 01:31 PM
brian 4 liberty writes: I hope Gary is able to capture as much of the Democrat vote as possible.

:confused:

...is this the first time you've revealed that you favor trump over hillary? ...in your opinion, what is the important difference favoring stinking trump over stinking hillary?... :confused:

...maybe similarly, i provoked a bet with a friend and glenn beck fan that stinking beck will make a conversion to team drumpf..(i sense it might be just a few days before the ($)election)...i got 5-1 odds..you'd have to be a goddamned fool to turn that down! ;)

Favor? That's a strong word. Satan himself might be preferable to Hillary, so that's not much of a hurdle. But I understand the reasoning and politics behind voting for Trump to stop Hillary in swing States.

Paul says stopping Hillary Clinton is reason to vote for Donald Trump (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?499925-Paul-says-stopping-Hillary-Clinton-is-reason-to-vote-for-Donald-Trump)


In the second video, Rand says he understands voting for the Libertarian candidate to send a message. I would add that in either a hard core red or blue state, everyone should vote for a party other than Dem/Rep. For instance, no one can say that a vote for Johnson or Castle in California helps Hillary. Hillary is winning California no matter what.

Additionally, I have long advocated for libertarians to run as Democrats. Gary Johnson almost seems to be trying that avenue. Hopefully it will be successful, and he will capture a lot of Democrat votes. Unfortunately, "libertarianism" is only sometimes convenient to authoritarian global socialists. Thus the ruthless set-ups and attacks on Johnson (and the Pauls) by MSNBC types. Democrats that usually ignore libertarians are now coming out against them with full venom. The Second Amendment and cuts to government programs are the siren call to the left, and those are emotional issues they hope will bring them more votes. Anything else that a "libertarian" might stand for is out the window, ignored and disregarded.

satchelmcqueen
09-12-2016, 03:28 PM
beyhar always ruins these interviews. she has done it to ron and rand both with her bs shitty attitude. i hate her with a passion. shes so stupid she still doesnt have a clue about auto gun bans and what that really means.

undergroundrr
09-12-2016, 03:36 PM
Additionally, I have long advocated for libertarians to run as Democrats. Gary Johnson almost seems to be trying that avenue.

During the Ron Paul r3VOLution, the Stormfront contingent was a fringe element. Annoying, sometimes comical. It has grown massively since then and its core message, that huge groups of people don't have unalienable rights, has become shockingly mainstream. It's possible actual libertarianism has more in common with people who self-identify with the left than the right at this point. Johnson is being pretty effective at making a case for that.

Brian4Liberty
09-12-2016, 07:34 PM
It's possible actual libertarianism has more in common with people who self-identify with the left than the right at this point. Johnson is being pretty effective at making a case for that.

It's possible, but the opinion makers are poisoning that well as fast as they can.

Had a discussion with a hard-core leftist recently. Tried to emphasize common ground, but apparently the ground is not as common as it might seem. Here's a condensed and simplified paraphrase, after a short discussion of Johnson and his Aleppo problem.

Leftist: "So what do you think about Kaepernick?"
Me: (Sensing an opportunity for agreement) "Yeah that's an interesting one, he has some valid concerns".
Leftist: "I'm glad he's doing it."
Me: "I agree with a lot of his points too, although some fans are upset, and he's in uniform and on the job while he's doing it, so it's a PR problem for the team. He should do it on his own time."
Leftist: "The NFL had no rules against it."
Me: "You know he brings up a lot of issues that libertarians have been active in for quite a while."
Leftist: "Pff, libertarians. :rolleyes:"
Me: "Police tactics and militarization of Police are big problems. And it's not just a black/white/race issue."
Leftist (now triggered): "The Police need better weapons. And they have to have escalation tactics to maintain authority. They have to be one step ahead. And common people shouldn't have guns anyway."
Me: "Well, there's the Second Amendmemt..."
Leftist: "That's such bullshit, that was back when weapons were simple and it was for a militia. We don't need a militia anymore. And Republicans won't let any gun control laws pass."

Good luck to Johnson...

Krugminator2
09-12-2016, 08:57 PM
It's possible actual libertarianism has more in common with people who self-identify with the left than the right at this point. Johnson is being pretty effective at making a case for that.

There is almost zero philosophical overlap for libertarians with people on the left. To the extent that issues overlap, it is by accident and usually for the wrong reasons.

The fact of the matter is anyone who is on the left in 2016 is a socialist. Issues where the left are ostensibly libertarian like gay marriage and weed legalization are only superficially libertarian because it fits their sensibilities. There is no common cause.

Evangelical Christians are the most likely to be open to libertarian ideas. A lot of them are already 70% of the way there. They just need someone to persuasively make the case. And it sure as heck isn't going to be the guy who is against the Hobby Lobby decision.

nikcers
09-12-2016, 10:39 PM
There is almost zero philosophical overlap for libertarians with people on the left. To the extent that issues overlap, it is by accident and usually for the wrong reasons.

That's because people on the left and people that vote for the democrats are not the same sets of people. The coalition that most people refer to when they say left and libertarian is a coalition of people who have voted democrat in the past but are not voting democrat for the policies or the platform but because they are not Republican.

This is a coalition of people who don't necessarily agree on the role of government but agree that part or all of government is corrupt and it must be stopped. People on the left think that you can stop government with more government. If you can convince people that you won't stop all of the government just cut the cancer out then you have a Ron Paul coalition.

eleganz
09-13-2016, 12:40 AM
Johnson's got 2 of the 5 view ladies openly and passionately on his side, that sounds like progress to me...

That girl Raven Simone is definitely feeling the Johnson

RJ Liberty
09-13-2016, 12:46 AM
Johnson's got 2 of the 5 view ladies openly and passionately on his side, that sounds like progress to me...

That girl Raven Simone is definitely feeling the Johnson

Yeah, I was actually pleasantly surprised to find two of the hosts so very receptive to Johnson; sure, Joy Behar was a total cunt, but that's to be expected by now. And Candace and Whoopie were respectful, if skeptical. Gary got a fair shake on this show.

H. E. Panqui
09-13-2016, 06:03 AM
brian 4 liberty writes: Favor? That's a strong word. Satan himself might be preferable to Hillary, so that's not much of a hurdle. But I understand the reasoning and politics behind voting for Trump to stop Hillary in swing States.

:cool:

...yeah, i know a lot of democreeps who say essentially the same thing in defense of their support for clinton:...[Favor? That's a strong word. Satan himself might be preferable to Trump, so that's not much of a hurdle. But I understand the reasoning and politics behind voting for Hillary to stop Trump in swing States.]

...i can't figure out why any sane, knowledgeable person would support ANY stinking Republican or Democrat in any way...unconscious warmongers, monetary ignoramuses, puppets, etc., ALL..