Gun ownership rises to 44% of all homes

[Anti Federalist]

Gun ownership rises to 44% of all homes

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/surprise-gun-ownership-rises-to-44-of-all-homes/article/2600319

After a steady decline in gun ownership in recent years, more homes are reporting having a weapon inside, according to a new survey.

Pew Research Center, in a poll on guns released Friday, showed that 44 percent of the country has a gun in the house. Some 51 percent don't.

http://www.people-press.org/files/2016/08/AugustGuns_Methodology.png

[Matt Collins]

This is why I'm not worried about having another Hitler coming to power in the US.

[John F Kennedy III]

Sweet.

[ChristianAnarchist]

This is why I'm not worried about having another Hitler coming to power in the US.

Yes, it is good news that so many households have guns but that doesn't mean we won't have abuses that may rival Hitler. What happens when Billary becomes Queen and orders all those "registered" guns confiscated? The goons in blue will turn against the commoners and start knocking on doors to get the guns. If you don't willingly hand them over they come back with all those nice tanks Obama (and Bush) gave them. Think it won't happen?? Wrong! It already happened in New Orleans and Boston. Those were just tests to see if the goons will follow orders. (They will...)

[Zippyjuan]

What happens when Billary becomes Queen and orders all those "registered" guns confiscated?

Like everybody was afraid Obama was going to do?

[Anti Federalist]

Like everybody was afraid Obama was going to do?

There is very good possibility of her SCOTUS appointees overturning Heller.

[oyarde]

That is pretty poor , especially considering some small amount of that 44 percent is nothing more than a handgun . I would feel better if 80 percent or more had a rifle and shotgun for every person in the home at least .

[enhanced_deficit]

Pew Research Center, in a poll on guns released Friday, showed that 44 percent of the country has a gun in the house. Some 51 percent don't.


And the remainig 5% are "not sure". LOL

[Anti Federalist]

That is pretty poor , especially considering some small amount of that 44 percent is nothing more than a handgun . I would feel better if 80 percent or more had a rifle and shotgun for every person in the home at least .

I suspect the real number is close to that.

[alucard13mm]

I would own a gun too.. especially when those black lives matter people get smart and start burning and looting the white suburbs

[oyarde]

I suspect the real number is close to that.

That would make me feel better then .

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Like everybody was afraid Obama was going to do?


Your boy Barack tried to do something, but common sense prevailed in many cases.

And I don't follow your gun views, Zip. Do your fellow progressive Jews share your gun views? After all, many armed Jewish people saved themselves from Hitler.

Anyway, who's your vote, Zip? Will you vote Clinton, or are you one of the very liberal people writing in Sanders?

[Root]

Personally, I would not participate in a survey asking me about my firearms.

[CCTelander]

This is why I'm not worried about having another Hitler coming to power in the US.


Iraq, under Saddam Hussein, was among the countries with the highest civilian gun ownership in the world. Something like #7 if memory serves. High civilian gun ownership doesn't even come close to guaranteeing that a brutal dictator won't seize control and keep it.

Still not worried?

[Suzanimal]

Personally, I would not participate in a survey asking me about my firearms.

Me, neither.

[puppetmaster]

Iraq, under Saddam Hussein, was among the countries with the highest civilian gun ownership in the world. Something like #7 if memory serves. High civilian gun ownership doesn't even come close to guaranteeing that a brutal dictator won't seize control and keep it.

Still not worried? we took care of that.....now its a great place to live and we pay for all their guns...like welfare

[CCTelander]

we took care of that.....now its a great place to live and we pay for all their guns...like welfare


Yep. As I recall the US military's first order of business after beating Hussein's military was to begin disarming the civilian population. Can you smell the freedom?

[AZJoe]

Like everybody was afraid Obama was going to do?

The fact he is politically thwarted doesn't mean he doesn't want to, or wouldn't if he could. Just a tiny sampling of pro-totalitarian Obama's wonderful defense of freedom on guns (NOT) : http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/summary-president-obama-gun-proposals.aspx

[Matt Collins]

Iraq, under Saddam Hussein, was among the countries with the highest civilian gun ownership in the world. Something like #7 if memory serves. High civilian gun ownership doesn't even come close to guaranteeing that a brutal dictator won't seize control and keep it.

Still not worried?Cite your source.

[CCTelander]

Cite your source.

Heres one:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/lprelease_confiscate_guns_iraq.htm

I also remember reading about it in one of James Bovard's books, but don't remember which one and am not inclined to look. Believe whatever you want. An armed population ONLY acts to deter tyranny if it is combined with the WILL to use those arms if necessary. Don't see a lot of that kind of will among modern Americans.

[Anti Federalist]

Cite your source.

http://i.imgur.com/Gss0Nqb.jpg

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/iraq

[Anti Federalist]

An armed population ONLY acts to deter tyranny if it is combined with the WILL to use those arms if necessary. Don't see a lot of that kind of will among modern Americans.

Exactly.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Gun ownership rises to 44% of all homes

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/surprise-gun-ownership-rises-to-44-of-all-homes/article/2600319

After a steady decline in gun ownership in recent years, more homes are reporting having a weapon inside, according to a new survey.

Pew Research Center, in a poll on guns released Friday, showed that 44 percent of the country has a gun in the house. Some 51 percent don't.

http://www.people-press.org/files/2016/08/AugustGuns_Methodology.png

It is way higher, who would be honest with a stranger over the phone about items with might be banned?

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Your boy Barack tried to do something, but common sense prevailed in many cases.

And I don't follow your gun views, Zip. Do your fellow progressive Jews share your gun views? After all, many armed Jewish people saved themselves from Hitler.

Anyway, who's your vote, Zip? Will you vote Clinton, or are you one of the very liberal people writing in Sanders?


He is a jew?

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Like everybody was afraid Obama was going to do?

So the fact he tried to ban them via EO did not happen or matter?

So the fact he tried to have the Congress ram through countless bans or limit did not happen or matter?

The fact his judges on the SCOTUS did not vote against Heller happen or matter?

Please go on and show us how out of touch you really are with reality.

[Zippyjuan]

So the fact he tried to ban them via EO did not happen or matter?

Link to Executive Order trying to ban guns?


So the fact he tried to have the Congress ram through countless bans or limit did not happen or matter?

Link to laws proposing to ban guns?


The fact his judges on the SCOTUS did not vote against Heller happen or matter?

Supreme Court ruling on Heller was in 2008- Obama became president in 2009. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller


On June 26, 2008, the Supreme Court affirmed the Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit in Heller v. District of Columbia.[3][4] The Supreme Court struck down provisions of the Firearms Control Regulations Act of 1975 as unconstitutional, determined that handguns are "arms" for the purposes of the Second Amendment, found that the Regulations Act was an unconstitutional ban, and struck down the portion of the Regulations Act that requires all firearms including rifles and shotguns be kept "unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock". Prior to this decision the Firearms Control Regulation Act of 1975 also restricted residents from owning handguns except for those registered prior to 1975.

[Zippyjuan]

He is a jew?

He likes to pretend I am.

[DamianTV]

That is pretty poor , especially considering some small amount of that 44 percent is nothing more than a handgun . I would feel better if 80 percent or more had a rifle and shotgun for every person in the home at least .

Not everyone who has a gun is going to admit it publicly.

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined, nor determined to commit crimes."
- Thomas Jefferson

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

He is a jew?


He likes to pretend I am.


What's the big secret? :rolleyes:

[ChristianAnarchist]

An armed population ONLY acts to deter tyranny if it is combined with the WILL to use those arms if necessary. Don't see a lot of that kind of will among modern Americans.

Yes, I'm afraid this is the key. As long as the Ahmerikans continue to worship their overlords there can never be real Liberty. I'm hoping that the "movement" started by Kapernick grows and it gets to be comfortable to sit during the flag worship sessions at sport stadiums. I take off my hat and stand but I do not put my hand over my heart and I don't sing along. I actually like the song and wish that the words actually meant something but the meaning of "freedom" was lost on this population before I was born...

[Suzanimal]

Gun Ownership, Concealed-Carry Permits Up Among Women and Minorities

Antonia Okafor, a Dallas resident, says she believes a gun can be the great equalizer for women to defend themselves—one reason she is now the southwest regional director for a group called Students for Concealed Carry.

State laws allowing residents to carry concealed weapons have been enacted in all 50 states, with varying degrees of regulation—most recently on college campuses.

“We see ourselves as doing this as a means of empowerment,” Okafor, 26, told The Daily Signal in a phone interview. “Real feminism is about empowerment and taking our safety into our own hands.”

Okafor, who is black, said more female role models, such as Olympic gold medalist Kim Rhode, have inspired more gun ownership among women.

But Okafor—a graduate of the University of Texas at Dallas, where she became involved in the movement—said her mother is opposed to guns.

In an April poll by ABC News of issues millennial women are most concerned about, gun rights scored even with equal pay and abortion, each getting 11 percent.

A study by the Crime Prevention Research Center earlier this month found concealed-carry permits have boomed nationally, but particularly among women and minorities. “In eight states where we have data by gender, since 2012 the number of permits has increased by 161 percent for women and by 85 percent for men,” the report says.

From 2007 through 2015, concealed-carry permits issued by state and local governments increased about 75 percent faster among nonwhites than whites, according to the report.

Okafor noted that those living in the inner city “are the most likely to benefit” from self-defense.

“A lot of minority homes didn’t have father figures growing up,” Okafor told The Daily Signal. “The right to bear arms is a way to protect our community. Every weekend people are dying in cities riddled with gun control.”

Okafor said increasing gun ownership could mark a political shift among both women and minorities away from pro-gun control Democrats to pro-gun rights Republicans in the longer term.

However, JaQuan Taylor, a senior at Georgia Tech, is a Democrat and president of the college group that advocates allowing students and faculty to carry concealed firearms while on campus. Taylor, who is black, said he doesn’t plan on switching parties, but he is more open now.

“It’s more challenging for me to pick a politician that wants to take away guns or prohibit them in anyway,” Taylor, 22, told The Daily Signal in a phone interview. “I vote for the person more than the party, but I usually vote Democrat because they are pro-education. Since I’ve gotten a gun, I’ve begun to look at Republicans.”

Taylor said he joined a marksmanship club at Georgia Tech and then “became comfortable with getting a gun to protect myself.”

He said he believes as more African-Americans learn about gun laws, more are buying for self-defense.

He doesn’t see the gun issue as a left-right matter, but more of an issue of freedom, Taylor said.

“It seems like with the push for gay marriage, there is a push for freedom in all directions. That’s a good thing,” he said.

The data on women and minorities should come as no surprise, said Crime Prevention Research Center President John Lott, a noted economist and author of the recent book, “The War on Guns.”

“Women benefit more from having a gun than a man because of the large strength differential between a male-to-woman attacker compared to [a] male-to-male attacker,” Lott, the author of the August study, told The Daily Signal.

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http://dailysignal.com/2016/08/29/gun-ownership-concealed-carry-permits-up-among-women-and-minorities/?utm_source=TDS_Email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=MorningBell&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiT0RVM016bGxOalEzWkRBNCIsInQiOiJUZU NMcmpJZER1d3VvWlJCV0RXWnRnNHRndENIN25CU2JhWTlEMVBm OEFZbHNKZVVEekZsZnR6Y1c4eUJEUGVGRkVlYVpPQTJPWVwvT2 5DcnZYZG1MVTRjcStvYUFEa2ZmOURjeG90NXJzUEE9In0%3D

[Zippyjuan]

Basic math as to why they can't "take everybody's guns" even if they wanted to:

350 million guns in the US.
10 million produced in the US a year (some are exported)
5 million imported each year.
330 million people in the US.

2,600 ATF agents in the entire country.

[Matt Collins]

Basic math as to why they can't "take everybody's guns" even if they wanted to:

350 million guns in the US.
10 million produced in the US a year (some are exported)
5 million imported each year.
330 million people in the US.

2,600 ATF agents in the entire country.
Exactly. But what they can do is being to clamp down on ammo, and clamp down on transactions where it is harder to move firearms from one person to another (legally).

[TheCount]

He is a jew?

NorthCarolinaLiberty sees Jews everywhere, just like that vonmises guy and the Russians.

[oyarde]

Basic math as to why they can't "take everybody's guns" even if they wanted to:

350 million guns in the US.
10 million produced in the US a year (some are exported)
5 million imported each year.
330 million people in the US.

2,600 ATF agents in the entire country.

Another reason for everyone to have a rifle , only 2600 of those traitor agents .

[RestorationOfLiberty]

He likes to pretend I am.


You love of immigration, and blatant rejection of logic makes sense if you were.

[ChristianAnarchist]

You love of immigration, and blatant rejection of logic makes sense if you were.

If a person is "against immigration" and they "love the constitution" they are in a poor position. The constitution has NO restriction on immigration and has NO delegation of authority for the feds to regulate or restrict it (check it yourself). We had a "constitutional scholar" come to Memphis a few years back for a presentation and I agreed to drive to Little Rock to pick him up from the airport. On the two hour drive back I got to ask him about immigration and although he is against unrestricted immigration he had to admit there is nothing in the constitution granting power to "regulate" immigration. The ONLY thing about "immigrants" is how they can become citizens. There's nothing about being able to regulate the influx (or outflow as more "citizens" decide the grass is greener elsewhere)...

[RestorationOfLiberty]

If a person is "against immigration" and they "love the constitution" they are in a poor position. The constitution has NO restriction on immigration and has NO delegation of authority for the feds to regulate or restrict it (check it yourself). We had a "constitutional scholar" come to Memphis a few years back for a presentation and I agreed to drive to Little Rock to pick him up from the airport. On the two hour drive back I got to ask him about immigration and although he is against unrestricted immigration he had to admit there is nothing in the constitution granting power to "regulate" immigration. The ONLY thing about "immigrants" is how they can become citizens. There's nothing about being able to regulate the influx (or outflow as more "citizens" decide the grass is greener elsewhere)...

Article 1 Section 8 spells it out very well.

[CCTelander]

If a person is "against immigration" and they "love the constitution" they are in a poor position. The constitution has NO restriction on immigration and has NO delegation of authority for the feds to regulate or restrict it (check it yourself). We had a "constitutional scholar" come to Memphis a few years back for a presentation and I agreed to drive to Little Rock to pick him up from the airport. On the two hour drive back I got to ask him about immigration and although he is against unrestricted immigration he had to admit there is nothing in the constitution granting power to "regulate" immigration. The ONLY thing about "immigrants" is how they can become citizens. There's nothing about being able to regulate the influx (or outflow as more "citizens" decide the grass is greener elsewhere)...


Article 1 Section 8 spells it out very well.


Immigration ≠ "Naturalization".

[ChristianAnarchist]

Immigration ≠ "Naturalization".

Right you are and this is the confusion that most anti-immigration types make. There is NO authorization in the Constitution (of no effect) that grants federal authority to regulate it...

[Todd]

Personally, I would not participate in a survey asking me about my firearms.

Even more than that I don't know why people post pictures of their junk online.

[pcosmar]

Exactly. But what they can do is being to clamp down on ammo, and clamp down on transactions where it is harder to move firearms from one person to another (legally).

THEY DO MUCH MORE THAN THAT. (social control)

I was banned from a gun board (THR) about the time I heard of Ron Paul.
It was the 2nd amendment that brought me to this dance.


I am unarmed. I am PROHIBITED.
For me to touch one is a Life Sentence. or death sentence.

Y'all stand up,, and I will.

[pcosmar]

Y'all stand up,, and I will.

I would suspect that "we" would come out of the woodwork. ;)

[Anti Federalist]

Pffft...you sorely underestimate Boobus' desire to comply with any and all government edicts.



Basic math as to why they can't "take everybody's guns" even if they wanted to:

350 million guns in the US.
10 million produced in the US a year (some are exported)
5 million imported each year.
330 million people in the US.

2,600 ATF agents in the entire country.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Immigration ≠ "Naturalization".

Who else to you Naturalize?

[ChristianAnarchist]

Who else to you Naturalize?

Ya, it's the "REGULATION" of immigration that is not "authorized". They cannot regulate it (or restrict it). They only can control who becomes a "citizen"...

[Danke]

Pffft...you sorely underestimate Boobus' desire to comply with any and all government edicts.

ATF Reclassifies Wetted Nitrocellulose as Explosive Materials Under Federal Laws

Read more: http://www.ammoland.com/2016/08/atf-reclassifies-wetted-nitrocellulose-as-explosive-materials-under-federal-laws/#ixzz4J9chEvVU

Then they back off with activism:

http://www.ammoland.com/2016/09/atf-backs-off-on-wetted-nitrocellulose/#axzz4J9cfFON1

https://blog.princelaw.com/2016/09/01/atf-just-banned-ammunition-well-not-really/

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

NorthCarolinaLiberty sees Jews everywhere,...


I do? How so? Please enlighten me, "Supporting Member."

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

You love of immigration, and blatant rejection of logic makes sense if you were.


ZippyJuan makes contrary posts at every turn. He goes out of his way to do it. TheCount tries to sow division on this site. TheCount is NOT a "Supporting Member" as claimed in his avatar. I neg rep both of them at every turn.

[Uriel999]

Yes, it is good news that so many households have guns but that doesn't mean we won't have abuses that may rival Hitler. What happens when Billary becomes Queen and orders all those "registered" guns confiscated? The goons in blue will turn against the commoners and start knocking on doors to get the guns. If you don't willingly hand them over they come back with all those nice tanks Obama (and Bush) gave them. Think it won't happen?? Wrong! It already happened in New Orleans and Boston. Those were just tests to see if the goons will follow orders. (They will...)

The reality is those that give no fucks and would fight are those that already served.

Those that currently serve our nation won't do that shit.

Also, you don't understand logistics.

They can't grab our guns. They can legislate with 1000 papercuts though.


ZippyJuan makes contrary posts at every turn. He goes out of his way to do it. TheCount tries to sow division on this site. TheCount is NOT a "Supporting Member" as claimed in his avatar. I neg rep both of them at every turn.

No offense but while I don't always agree with either, they both make great contributions. This "division" you speak of. Do you realize you are on RPF which brings together moderates, libertarians, conservatives, ancaps, minarchists, paleo conservatives, and essentially is only unified under the banner of former congressman Ron Paul?

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

No offense but while I don't always agree with either, they both make great contributions. This "division" you speak of. Do you realize you are on RPF which brings together moderates, libertarians, conservatives, ancaps, minarchists, paleo conservatives, and essentially is only unified under the banner of former congressman Ron Paul?


They're liberal progressives trying to discourage membership and eventually see the entire site disappear. They're not here for academic reasons; however, I have to acknowledge that they're not really effective as I once thought.

[Zippyjuan]

The reality is those that give no $#@!s and would fight are those that already served.

Those that currently serve our nation won't do that $#@!.

Also, you don't understand logistics.

They can't grab our guns. They can legislate with 1000 papercuts though.



No offense but while I don't always agree with either, they both make great contributions. This "division" you speak of. Do you realize you are on RPF which brings together moderates, libertarians, conservatives, ancaps, minarchists, paleo conservatives, and essentially is only unified under the banner of former congressman Ron Paul?

He is just bored and bumping all of my threads. Throws in a few names hoping I will respond him. He has a strong need for attention. He once claimed that every one of his posts is promoting liberty but they rarely are.

[Danke]

The reality is those that give no fucks and would fight are those that already served.

Those that currently serve our nation won't do that shit.

Also, you don't understand logistics.

They can't grab our guns. They can legislate with 1000 papercuts though.



No offense but while I don't always agree with either, they both make great contributions. This "division" you speak of. Do you realize you are on RPF which brings together moderates, libertarians, conservatives, ancaps, minarchists, paleo conservatives, and essentially is only unified under the banner of former congressman Ron Paul?

Can you look through their post history and prove to any of us that they fit any of those categories?

Funny you left out liberal, progressive or leftist.


I guess "moderate" is a broad term that you could apply to anyone if you wanted to. How about " statist"?

Varying degree but some are obviously leaning that way in any discussion that is brought up, support the mainstream narrative as a counterpoint in any thread.

Acptulsa has pointed this out many times.

[anaconda]

44% is about the same percentage as dog ownership. Hmmmm....

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

He is just bored and bumping all of my threads. Throws in a few names hoping I will respond him. He has a strong need for attention. He once claimed that every one of his posts is promoting liberty but they rarely are.


Nope. Never said that. I said none of your posts promote liberty. Nice try again. :rolleyes:

And speaking of strong need for attention. The guy and his friends who've been here 8 years running, every single day, making nothing but contrary posts. Neg rep.