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axiomata
08-26-2016, 04:26 PM
http://balancedrebellion.com/

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/08/26/johnson-backers-launch-bid-to-woo-disaffected-but-wary-democrats-and-republicans/


For the many voters who aren’t happy with their party’s presidential candidate but really loathe the other team’s, a super PAC promoting Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson proposes a solution: matching disaffected Republicans and Democrats so they can vote for Mr. Johnson without remorse.The Balanced Rebellion (http://balancedrebellion.com/)effort aims to pair Democrats who had resigned themselves to voting for Hillary Clinton (http://topics.wsj.com/person/C/hillary,-clinton/6344) to stop Donald Trump (http://topics.wsj.com/person/T/donald,-trump/159) with Republican voters who were planning to cast ballots for Mr. Trump to block Mrs. Clinton. People can log onto the Balanced Rebellion website and register their choice were Mr. Johnson not an option.
The website then matches members with opposite viewpoints from the same states, so when the two head to the polls for Mr. Johnson, they negate one another. For example, a Florida voter who deeply dislikes Mr. Trump would be paired with a Florida voter who deeply dislikes Mrs. Clinton.
The super PAC, Alternative PAC, wants to draw in Democrats and Republicans who would like to vote for Mr. Johnson, a former Republican governor of New Mexico, but worry their vote for him would merely help the candidate they most disdain win the election.

“This might be the ultimate perfect storm for a Libertarian presidential candidate — with both the Republican and the Democratic nominees at historical negatives (http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trumps-and-hillary-clintons-high-negatives-could-prove-tough-to-lower-1463697653),” said Matt Kibbe, the head of alternative PAC. Mr. Kibbe founded the tea party organization Freedom Works in 2004 but departed last year.
To promote the campaign, the group created a comedic video featuring Abraham Lincoln weighing the choices voters face this year and recommending Mr. Johnson.
“You can’t vote third-party ‘cause for Republicans that’s a vote for Hillary and for Democrats it’s a vote for Trump,” the character explains, “so you stick with the candidate you don’t like to stop the one you hate, splitting the nation in two.”
The campaign and accompanying video were produced by internet marketing firm Harmon Brothers, which is paying nearly $330,000 to advertise the “Balanced Rebellion” video on Facebook, a sum that Alternative PAC will report as an in-kind contribution.
Mr. Kibbe said the initial goal of the campaign is to raise Mr. Johnson’s profile just high enough to garner 15% popularity in national polls – the threshold that would permit him to appear at this fall’s presidential debates.
He did not say how the campaign would help Mr. Johnson actually win states in November’s contest, and the website has no way of ensuring that voters truly stick to their third-party plan.
Alternative PAC is particularly hoping to draw in voters under age 30, who polling suggests are especially unsatisfied with their respective parties’ nominees.
The group’s millennial pitch is unmistakable.
“You can really match with someone as disappointed as you are,” it assures watchers. “It’s like Tinder, but not gross, and it can save America.”

TheTexan
08-26-2016, 04:36 PM
This style of voting is way too technical to me. It just doesn't have the same spirit & joy as normal voting.

I'm more of a traditionalist voter myself.

TheTexan
08-26-2016, 04:39 PM
BTW if you sign up and "pledge" to vote for Johnson instead of Trump, but vote for Trump anyway, you might be able to take someone else's vote away from Hillary.

Again, its not my style, but for those inclined, go for it. It's a powerful way to make your vote twice as meaningful as it already is.

CCTelander
08-26-2016, 05:03 PM
BTW if you sign up and "pledge" to vote for Johnson instead of Trump, but vote for Trump anyway, you might be able to take someone else's vote away from Hillary.

Again, its not my style, but for those inclined, go for it. It's a powerful way to make your vote twice as meaningful as it already is.


2 x 0 = 0

GunnyFreedom
08-26-2016, 05:15 PM
Everyone should vote first second and third choice. Everyone's first choice gets 3 votes, everyone's second choice gets 2 votes, everyone's 3rd choices gets 1 vote. If the voter only votes one person, that person gets 3 votes and everyone else gets zero. If the voter only states two preferences, they get 3, 2, and zero. Preference-order polling will end the two party duopoly, and lead to office holders who more truly represent their constituents.

I do not assume that an elected official who more truly represents their constituents will necessarily make anything better, but I do think ending the duopoly will give "our kind" a better shot at the ring.

GunnyFreedom
08-26-2016, 05:24 PM
2 x 0 = 0

2 ÷ 0 = http://i.imgur.com/ZEaZGX4.gif

Suzanimal
08-26-2016, 05:29 PM
This is getting complicated.

euphemia
08-26-2016, 05:31 PM
Nope, sorry, not going to happen.

GunnyFreedom
08-26-2016, 05:34 PM
This is getting complicated.
Two divided by zero equals a universe devouring black hole. It's not really very complicated.


Well.

Until we get to survivable spaghettification.

But that's another matter altogether.

specsaregood
08-26-2016, 05:37 PM
Honestly, nobody that is planning on voting for trillary is going to trust that the other side is going uphold their end of the bargain. All this will do is harvest a bunch of yahoo and Gmail email addresses that nobody checks anyways.

PierzStyx
08-26-2016, 05:49 PM
Two divided by zero equals a universe devouring black hole. It's not really very complicated.


Well.

Until we get to survivable spaghettification.

But that's another matter altogether.

Dividing by zero is how you get teleportation. It coolapses distances between two points to zero and allows you to cross over unhindered.

Obviously.

CCTelander
08-26-2016, 05:55 PM
This is getting complicated.


"Thinking gives you wrinkles." - Malibu Stacy

GunnyFreedom
08-26-2016, 05:57 PM
Dividing by zero is how you get teleportation. It coolapses distances between two points to zero and allows you to cross over unhindered.

Obviously.

That's where survivable spaghettification and ring singularities come in.

Suzanimal
08-26-2016, 06:01 PM
"Thinking gives you wrinkles." - Malibu Stacy

"Resting bitch face keeps you pretty" ~ Scarlett O'Hara


That's where survivable spaghettification and ring singularities come in.

This sounds like Pastafarianism math.

axiomata
08-26-2016, 06:09 PM
This is getting complicated.

It's just some prisoner's dilemma voodoo.

[EDIT] Convenient, somebody already has explained it to the internet!

https://satyagraha.wordpress.com/2013/06/19/the-prisoners-dilemma-and-third-party-voting/

GunnyFreedom
08-26-2016, 06:15 PM
It's just some prisoner's dilemma voodoo.


Well, an attempt to anesthetize a person's perception of the prisoner's dilemma anyway.

Suzanimal
08-26-2016, 06:18 PM
It's just some prisoner's dilemma voodoo.

[EDIT] Convenient, somebody already has explained it to the internet!

https://satyagraha.wordpress.com/2013/06/19/the-prisoners-dilemma-and-third-party-voting/



Early one Saturday you and a college friend go hunting for ‘magic mushrooms’ in Farmer Brown’s cow pasture. Farmer Brown sees you and calls police Chief Wiggum, who arrives promptly, arrests you and your friend, and hauls you both to the police station. There Wiggum places you in a room by yourself and proposes the following deal (he also tells you he will propose an identical deal to your friend). The terms are as follows. He asks you to sign a confession admitting that you and your friend were gathering the mushrooms with the intent of selling them (i.e., drug-dealing). Then:


If you confess, and your friend doesn’t confess, he will go to jail for 10 years, and you will get a 90-day sentence.

Conversely, if your friend confesses and you don’t, he will get a 90-day sentence, and you will get a 10-year sentence.

If you confess and your friend also confesses, you’ll both be given 5-year sentences.

If neither of you confess, Wiggum explains that he can still charge you and your friend with trespassing and put you both in jail for 30 days.

Never talk to cops works as a voting strategy?:confused:

They should've run when fat ass Wiggum showed up and they wouldn't be in this mess.

GunnyFreedom
08-26-2016, 07:06 PM
Never talk to cops works as a voting strategy?:confused:

They should've run when fat ass Wiggum showed up and they wouldn't be in this mess.

Essentially if you are a Trump settler, you would go find a Hillary settler within your State and agree to both vote 3rd party so neither of you contribute to the election of your enemy. Problem is the human soul is greedy and will probably take advantage of the opportunity to "Stop The Other Person" and vote their settle anyway, only lie about it.

P3ter_Griffin
08-27-2016, 01:50 AM
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TheTexan
08-27-2016, 02:12 AM
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