Trump: "Obama got tremendous numbers of people out of the country. I'm gonna do the same"

[jmdrake]

Sorry suckas. You've been had.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/439263/trump-obama-got-tremendous-numbers-people-out-country
“We’re going to obey the existing laws. Now, the existing laws are very strong. The existing laws, the first thing we’re gonna do, if and when I win, is we’re gonna get rid of all of the bad ones. We’ve got gang members, we have killers, we have a lot of bad people that have to get out of this country,” he said on Fox News. “As far as everybody else, we’re going to go through the process. What people don’t know is that Obama got tremendous numbers of people out of the country, Bush the same thing. Lots of people were brought out of the country with the existing laws. Well, I’m gonna do the same thing.”

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/439263/trump-obama-got-tremendous-numbers-people-out-country

[AuH20]

Mass deportation force? Did you really think the court system was going to sanction that? I covered this topic as a nonstarter months ago.

As long as he builds a physical wall as a deterrent and makes a concerted push to expel felons, I'll be happy.

[jmdrake]

Mass deportation force? Did you really think the court system was going to sanction that? As long as he builds a physical wall as a deterrent and makes a concerted push to expel felons, I'll be happy.

:rolleyes: You realize that your hero just endorsed Obama's immigration efforts right? And great. He's going to build a wall, push to get rid of criminals and grant amnesty to the rest and you're "happy." Well FFS! People here attacked Rand (some people still are attacking Rand) for proposing the same damn thing. Hell Cruz proposed the same damn thing. Hell Rubio proposed the same damn thing. Republicans put their brains in neutral and blindly followed Trump even though Trump was questionable at best on a lot of issues (morphing position on gun control for instance) and terrible on others (trying to water down the pro-life position of the GOP, thinking imminent domain was "great", thinking the bailouts were "necessary.") Yes he's better than Hillary (unless he flip flops on other key positions) but this "I must praise Trump no matter what he says or does" nonsense in nauseating.

[CPUd]

Mass deportation force? Did you really think the court system was going to sanction that? I covered this topic as a nonstarter months ago.

As long as he builds a physical wall as a deterrent and makes a concerted push to expel felons, I'll be happy.

Looks like it will be more like Sim City:
Top Trump Surrogate Says Border Wall and Mass Deportation Will Be "Virtual" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?495531-Top-Trump-Surrogate-Says-Border-Wall-and-Mass-Deportation-Will-Be-quot-Virtual-quot/page2)

[AuH20]

:rolleyes: You realize that your hero just endorsed Obama's immigration efforts right?

It's largely political conjecture. If he doesn't build a wall or make an honest attempt to process violent felons, then we can rightly crucify him.

[jmdrake]

It's largely political conjecture. If he doesn't build a wall or make an honest attempt to process violent felons, then we can rightly crucify him.

So you've officially moved the goal post then. If Trump grants amnesty to millions of illegals that's okay as long as he builds a wall and goes after criminals. But Trump supporters crucified other republicans including Rand Paul for simply saying "We can't deport them all" while supporting deporting the criminals and securing the borders. The only thing keeping me from throwing up right now is that I don't want to ruin my laptop.

[AuH20]

So you've officially moved the goal post then. If Trump grants amnesty to millions of illegals that's okay as long as he builds a wall and goes after criminals. But Trump supporters crucified other republicans including Rand Paul for simply saying "We can't deport them all" while supporting deporting the criminals and securing the borders. The only thing keeping me from throwing up right now is that I don't want to ruin my laptop.

No, Amnesty would be horrible and a nonstarter. But the mass deportation force was not realistic. The optics were not feasible.

[TheTexan]

As long as he builds a physical wall as a deterrent and makes a concerted push to expel felons, I'll be happy.

Maybe we can turn an island off the coast of LA into a giant prison where we can deport these felons

[jmdrake]

No, Amnesty would be horrible and a nonstarter. But the mass deportation force was not realistic. The optics were not feasible.

Good grief. You can't be that dense. Trump just proposed amnesty!

“As far as everybody else, we’re going to go through the process. What people don’t know is that Obama got tremendous numbers of people out of the country, Bush the same thing. Lots of people were brought out of the country with the existing laws. Well, I’m gonna do the same thing.”

[AuH20]

Good grief. You can't be that dense. Trump just proposed amnesty!

“As far as everybody else, we’re going to go through the process. What people don’t know is that Obama got tremendous numbers of people out of the country, Bush the same thing. Lots of people were brought out of the country with the existing laws. Well, I’m gonna do the same thing.”

How do you get that from this vague statement? Where does it say that he's going to grant amnesty? The process suddenly equals 'amnesty'?

[AuH20]

Maybe we can turn an island off the coast of LA into a giant prison where we can deport these felons

No, John Carpenter already thought of that. We should take the felons and drop them off on island in the South Pacific where they must fulfill assassination quotas for weekly food allowances. :)

[jmdrake]

How do you get that from this vague statement? Where does it say that he's going to grant amnesty? The process suddenly equals 'amnesty'?

Oh my bad. Donald Trump really means he's going to deport everyone that goes through the process right after he gets done with the felons and then bring them back in rapidly right? :rolleyes: Seriously how do you think Trump plans to "process" all of the non felon illegal aliens? Give them a bath?

[AuH20]

Oh my bad. Donald Trump really means he's going to deport everyone that goes through the process right after he gets done with the felons and then bring them back in rapidly right? :rolleyes: Seriously how do you think Trump plans to "process" all of the non felon illegal aliens? Give them a bath?

They will probably be issued some work certification depending on their credentials. I think you're jumping to conclusions.

With that said, if your theory is proved to be correct and he somehow contorts to Amnesty, I would be the first one pulling down the gates at the White House. So hold your horses until we get solid confirmation.

[jmdrake]

They will probably be issued some work certification depending on their credentials. I think you're jumping to conclusions.

And so you don't consider an illegal immigrant being granted a work visa amnesty? :rolleyes:


With that said, if your theory is proved to be correct and he somehow contorts to Amnesty, I would be first one pulling down the gates at the White House. So hold your horses until we get solid confirmation.

So then what is your definition of amnesty? And is it the same definition that you and others used when all other GOP candidates including Rand Paul were accused of supporting amnesty? All Rand said was "You can't deport everyone" and supposedly that was amnesty. Now Trump says the same damn thing and it's not amnesty? Screw that!

[AuH20]

And so you don't consider an illegal immigrant being granted a work visa amnesty? :rolleyes:



No. as long as he isn't granted citizenship and isn't participating in our political 'theft' system, I could not care less. I wish we could eliminate their access to our welfare & public service benefits as well, but I'm not naive. The courts have the citizens behind the eight ball. I also wish we could rewrite the birthright citizenship interpretation like most countries have.

[AuH20]

And so you don't consider an illegal immigrant being granted a work visa amnesty? :rolleyes:



So then what is your definition of amnesty? And is it the same definition that you and others used when all other GOP candidates including Rand Paul were accused of supporting amnesty? All Rand said was "You can't deport everyone" and supposedly that was amnesty. Now Trump says the same damn thing and it's not amnesty? Screw that!

Unilateral granting of citizenship to 30+ million illegals That's amnesty in my lexicon.

Secondly, the problem with Rand Paul was his rhetoric on occasion as opposed to his actual policy views. His policy views were relatively ok.

[spudea]

Sorry suckas. You've been had.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/439263/trump-obama-got-tremendous-numbers-people-out-country
“As far as everybody else, we’re going to go through the process.”

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/439263/trump-obama-got-tremendous-numbers-people-out-country

This is a misquote. I watched through the fox news town hall and he did not say these exact words. He specifically confirmed expanding deportation powers.

Please provide the timestamp of those quoted words or please request a mod to delete this thread.

https://youtu.be/kYX4znorqiA

EDIT: My apologies, the article is referencing an interview with Bill O'Reilly. I watched that as well, and the context of the discussion was the deportation process. So when he says "we're going to go through the process", he is talking about the deportation process.


https://youtu.be/4XfSErwYN5M

[RandallFan]

All Rand said was "You can't deport everyone" and supposedly that was amnesty. Now Trump says the same damn thing and it's not amnesty? Screw that!

Rand cont.: So Im gonna legalize all 12 million of them in 24 hours & then call the GOP base concentration camp guards; & then Im going to win 2016.

[CPUd]

Does this mean Trump is open borders?

[RandallFan]

Trump meets with family victims killed by Drunk Mexicans. Clinton & the congressional Republicans were only talking about deporting 1 or 2 serial killers already serving decades in prison.

[CPUd]

https://i.imgur.com/JrP52iR.jpg

[RandallFan]

Trump's the only politician who actually has met more victims than Dreamers. All the others have filled churches with illegals or Congressional hearings with illegals to pander to them.

I think Rand made a mistake showing up to that meeting with Steve King in a public place. Then he got screwed over by everyone.

S. King on Rand: Wasn't going to be a constructive place for him to be if he wants to be Potus (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?458029-S-King-on-Rand-Wasn-t-going-to-be-a-constructive-place-for-him-to-be-if-he-wants-to-be-POTUS&highlight=king+rand+potus)

[CPUd]

https://i.imgur.com/1WZd9no.jpg

[TheTexan]

https://i.imgur.com/1WZd9no.jpg

Ya but there will be a wall, dont forget

[TheTexan]

Does this mean Trump is open borders?

No there is definitely going to be a wall.

Height and width TBD

[jmdrake]

Rand cont.: So Im gonna legalize all 12 million of them in 24 hours & then call the GOP base concentration camp guards; & then Im going to win 2016.

:rolleyes:

[AuH20]

Trump meets with family victims killed by Drunk Mexicans. Clinton & the congressional Republicans were only talking about deporting 1 or 2 serial killers already serving decades in prison.

Just yesterday. sad stuff.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C-Oehql6gU

[jmdrake]

This is a misquote. I watched through the fox news town hall and he did not say these exact words. He specifically confirmed expanding deportation powers.

Please provide the timestamp of those quoted words or please request a mod to delete this thread.

https://youtu.be/kYX4znorqiA

EDIT: My apologies, the article is referencing an interview with Bill O'Reilly. I watched that as well, and the context of the discussion was the deportation process. So when he says "we're going to go through the process", he is talking about the deportation process.


https://youtu.be/4XfSErwYN5M

Well thank you for your apologies. Here's what you're missing still though. When anyone who gets deported, whether that person is a felon or not, there is a process. So the only reason for there to be a different process for those who are here illegally but are not felons is if those are not necessarily going to be deported.

Further there is no getting around the direct quote that's in the title. "Obama got tremendous numbers of people out of the country....I'm gonna do the same."

Do you really believe that "Obama got tremendous numbers of people out of the country?" Seriously?

[jmdrake]

https://i.imgur.com/JrP52iR.jpg

Trump is a politician/snake oil salesman who will say and do anything to get elected/make a sale. He's better than Hillary...but not by much.

[CPUd]

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https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/768641063288446976

[spudea]

Now this is entertaining. Politics is hell.

[CPUd]

https://i.imgur.com/8cdOxJJ.jpg