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Contumacious
08-22-2016, 04:06 PM
Obama recently attacked Turkey in order to replaced Erdogan its duly elected Prime Minister


Turks Can Agree on One Thing: U.S. Was Behind Failed Coup (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/03/world/europe/turkey-coup-erdogan-fethullah-gulen-united-states.html?_r=1)

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Turkey–ISIL conflict (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey%E2%80%93ISIL_conflict)


So, if it is true , as the Obama/Killary axis contend , that they do not support ISIS why are they BOTH attacking Turkey?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Splain away , motherf u c k e r s


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Influenza
08-22-2016, 04:08 PM
Erdogan did the "coup" himself. If the US did it he would be dead/in jail.

Contumacious
08-22-2016, 06:07 PM
Erdogan did the "coup" himself. If the US did it he would be dead/in jail.

Really?


The west’s response to the crisis was disgraceful. (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/07/eric-margolis/real-story-behind-coup/)

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Instead of immediately supporting Turkey’s besieged democratic government, Washington, London, Paris and Ottawa all issued only lukewarm, half-hearted support. President Erdogan is not liked, particularly by the US. He is a Muslim, too independent-minded, insufficiently response to American demands in spite of his support for the anti-ISIS war in Syria and Iraq. Perhaps worst of all, Erdogan is sometimes critical of Israel over its repression of the Palestinians.

As a result, leading US neocon papers, like the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, and NY Times drip with venom over Erdogan. CNN’s coverage of the coup was astoundingly biased and nasty, worthy of the old Pravda. The anti-Erdogan neocons began spreading the ludicrous canard that the coup was a false-flag operation staged by the Turkish leader himself. It was the real thing. Even Turkey’s opposition parties sided with Erdogan’s AK."


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Zippyjuan
08-23-2016, 12:54 PM
The crisis was fairly quick.


Instead of immediately supporting Turkey’s besieged democratic government, Washington, London, Paris and Ottawa all issued only lukewarm, half-hearted support.

The response: http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-turkey-coup-2016-7


US President Barack Obama delivered a clear signal of support for the "democratically elected government of Turkey" on Friday night, amid an apparent coup attempt by factions of the Turkish military.

The White House said that Obama called US Secretary of State John Kerry late on Friday night to discuss the unfolding events in Turkey.

The White House said in a readout of the call:

"The President and Secretary agreed that all parties in Turkey should support the democratically elected government of Turkey, show restraint, and avoid any violence or bloodshed. The Secretary underscored that the State Department will continue to focus on the safety and security of US citizens in Turkey. The President asked the Secretary to continue to keep him updated as the situation unfolds."

Kerry also issued a separate statement of support, adding that the US was viewing the situation with "gravest concern."

Factions of the military staged an attempted coup late on Friday, plunging the NATO member state and American ally into chaos. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan urged resistance on local TV over FaceTime, leading people in Turkey to take to the streets of Istanbul.

"I spoke this evening to [Turkish] Foreign Minister [Mevlut] Cavusoglu and emphasized the United States' absolute support for Turkey's democratically elected, civilian government and democratic institutions," Kerry said in his statement.

He added: "We urge all parties to ensure the safety and well-being of diplomatic missions and personnel and civilians throughout Turkey."

That is an attack on Turkey?

Influenza
08-23-2016, 08:47 PM
What reason would the US have to depose Erdogan? Since June, Turkey has a better relationship with Israel than it has had for years. Turkey supports the overthrow of Bashaar Al Assad and the arming of the same rebel groups that the US has been arming (the only exception is the kurds)

If it was real, it was the worst organized coup in history. They had no plan to arrest the PRESIDENT of the country. Shouldn't that be the #1 priority? His plane was within striking distance of two F-16s and he was able to land safely. How is that possible?

The US has absolutely no reason to attack Erdogan, he does every single thing the US wants him to do. To claim that the US had a hand in the coup is purely conjecture when all actual evidence points to Erdogan orchestrating it himself

Contumacious
08-23-2016, 10:09 PM
The crisis was fairly quick.



The response: http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-turkey-coup-2016-7



That is an attack on Turkey?

Is Erdogan the Prime Minister of Turkey?

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Contumacious
08-23-2016, 10:15 PM
What reason would the US have to depose Erdogan? Since June, Turkey has a better relationship with Israel than it has had for years. Turkey supports the overthrow of Bashaar Al Assad and the arming of the same rebel groups that the US has been arming (the only exception is the kurds)

If it was real, it was the worst organized coup in history. They had no plan to arrest the PRESIDENT of the country. Shouldn't that be the #1 priority? His plane was within striking distance of two F-16s and he was able to land safely. How is that possible?

The US has absolutely no reason to attack Erdogan, he does every single thing the US wants him to do. To claim that the US had a hand in the coup is purely conjecture when all actual evidence points to Erdogan orchestrating it himself


Because Erdogan is actually fighting ISIS.

The Obama administration is using ISIS as ground troops - they are the "Syrian Resistance " and oppose Assad. From Obama's standpoint an enemy of Assad is his friend.

Secondly, it is the US policy to allow Israel to retain the Golan Heights and to make Israel an ME power. Also they want to prevent Syria from rtaliating against Israel, if Israel attacks Iran.


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enhanced_deficit
08-23-2016, 10:41 PM
No report in MSM has confirmed that SWC's masters carried this out.
In unrelated news, Turkey had refused to do regime change recently and neocons have been quiet about this.

Influenza
08-23-2016, 11:52 PM
Because Erdogan is actually fighting ISIS.

The Obama administration is using ISIS as ground troops - they are the "Syrian Resistance " and oppose Assad. From Obama's standpoint an enemy of Assad is his friend.

Secondly, it is the US policy to allow Israel to retain the Golan Heights and to make Israel an ME power. Also they want to prevent Syria from rtaliating against Israel, if Israel attacks Iran.


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LOL Turkey is fighting ISIS? Most of the crude oil extracted in ISIS controlled areas are destined for Turkey. Turkey have been more apt to bomb Kurdish fighters rather than those in ISIS. They are only fighting ISIS in the same way the US is fighting ISIS, dropping a few bombs on them after funneling arms and other supplies in their direction for years. The majority of foreign ISIS fighters (likely tens of thousands) got to Syria by crossing the border with Turkey. The only people in the region that are truly opposing ISIS are Kurds, Iran, Syria, Iraq, and Hezbollah.

Zippyjuan
08-24-2016, 12:44 PM
Because Erdogan is actually fighting ISIS.

The Obama administration is using ISIS as ground troops - they are the "Syrian Resistance " and oppose Assad. From Obama's standpoint an enemy of Assad is his friend.

Secondly, it is the US policy to allow Israel to retain the Golan Heights and to make Israel an ME power. Also they want to prevent Syria from rtaliating against Israel, if Israel attacks Iran.


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Erdogan was freely allowing all sorts of fighters including ISIS to pass though their borders- not fighting them but complicitly aiding them. This week is the first time Turkey has actually been fighting them (coinciding with a visit to the country by John Kerry). The Kurds are the ones who pushed ISIS back from the Turkish borders and halted their passage.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/war-with-isis-president-obama-demands-that-turkey-close-stretch-of-frontier-with-syria-a6753836.html


War with Isis: Obama demands Turkey closes stretch of border with Syria

Ankara is accused of tolerance of – if not complicity with – the terrorists, who use border as a crossing point for Isis recruits and oil sales


The US is demanding that Turkey close a 60-mile stretch of its border with Syria which is the sole remaining crossing point for Isis militants, including some of those involved in the massacre in Paris and other terrorist plots.

The complete closure of the 550-mile-long border would be a serious blow to Isis, which has brought tens of thousands of Islamist volunteers across the frontier over the past three years.

In the wake of the Isis attacks in Paris, Washington is making clear to Ankara that it will no longer accept Turkish claims that it is unable to cordon off the remaining short section of the border still used by Isis. “The game has changed. Enough is enough. The border needs to be sealed,” a senior official in President Barack Obama’s administration told The Wall Street Journal, describing the tough message that Washington has sent to the Turkish government. “This is an international threat, and it’s coming out of Syria and it’s coming through Turkish territory.”


Erdogan likes to play all sides.

TheCount
08-24-2016, 01:01 PM
Because Erdogan is actually fighting ISIS.

The Obama administration is using ISIS as ground troops - they are the "Syrian Resistance " and oppose Assad. From Obama's standpoint an enemy of Assad is his friend.

Secondly, it is the US policy to allow Israel to retain the Golan Heights and to make Israel an ME power. Also they want to prevent Syria from rtaliating against Israel, if Israel attacks Iran.

When you hit the point of believing multiple contradictory conspiracy theories, it may be time to evaluate which ones are valid and which are not.