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vadimg
12-08-2007, 04:11 PM
Let me know what you guys think, i think it
would be cool to put up a live ticker on one of
those big tv screens in times square or
elsewhere, either for dec 16th or new
years or super tuesday or whenever

latest update: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=51058


http://donate2008.org/ronpaultime.gif

http://donate2008.org/ronpaultime2.gif


http://RonPaulTime.com



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mport1
12-08-2007, 04:14 PM
That would be INCREDIBLE. How much would it cost?

piotr1
12-08-2007, 04:15 PM
Wowowowowow. Great idea!

knappz
12-08-2007, 04:16 PM
you can count me for $50

dirka
12-08-2007, 04:23 PM
Do you think they'll accept my $50 as a down payment???

literatim
12-08-2007, 04:24 PM
That would be so awesome.

francisco
12-08-2007, 04:24 PM
That would be INCREDIBLE. How much would it cost?

If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

FireofLiberty
12-08-2007, 04:25 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/07/16/billboard.lawsuit/

According to this an anti-war billboard was purchased in Time Square for $368,000 for a three-month run.

literatim
12-08-2007, 04:25 PM
If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

That is retarded comment because this would be done by a PAC.

1913_to_2008
12-08-2007, 04:30 PM
Amazing...............Amazing

mport1
12-08-2007, 04:31 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/07/16/billboard.lawsuit/

According to this an anti-war billboard was purchased in Time Square for $368,000 for a three-month run.

So lets do one month. This is well worth the publicity and exposure.

Danny Molina
12-08-2007, 04:32 PM
That is retarded comment because this would be done by a PAC.

I think it would be a good thing for Liberty Political Advertising to look into.

rory096
12-08-2007, 04:33 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/07/16/billboard.lawsuit/

According to this an anti-war billboard was purchased in Time Square for $368,000 for a three-month run.
That's a billboard though, not a screen.

FireofLiberty
12-08-2007, 04:40 PM
That's a billboard though, not a screen.

I think it does have an electronic LED ticker on it, though, that keeps track of the total cost of the Iraq war in real time.

Anyway, here's what appears to be some available screen advertising sites in the area:

http://www.spectacolor.com/pages/specials/

And here's the main NYC Clearchannel ad page which includes contact info on it:

http://www.clearchanneloutdoor.com/markets/newYork.htm


Clear Channel Outdoor
110 E. 42nd Street, 7th Floor
New York, NY 10017
Phone: 212.812.0000
FAX: 212.812.0099
Email: http://www.clearchanneloutdoor.com/contact/cf_outdoor.aspx

...

Clear Channel Spectacolor
1501 Broadway, 4th Floor
New York, NY 10036
Phone: 212.221.3100
FAX: 212.221.7051
Email: michaelsteinberg@clearchannel.com

vadimg
12-08-2007, 05:07 PM
let's propose it to Trevor then or someone else? any ideas?

VoteRonPaul2008
12-08-2007, 05:16 PM
OMG Ron Paul supporters are amazing! I'm so proud to be part of this campign let's do it.. we need to get it done by New Years so EVERYONE CAN SEE! let's not forget that ny primary is less then two months away

let's get to work on this now!!!

tamor
12-08-2007, 05:50 PM
What a great idea - but I have no idea if it can be done -

Maximilian American
12-08-2007, 05:55 PM
This is a great idea, I will throw in $100 for this.
IMAGINE, the ticker and the blimp in Times Square on New Years EVE!!!!!!:)

mopar.bo
12-08-2007, 06:09 PM
That's a fantastic idea. I'll put in on that.

mstrmac1
12-08-2007, 06:14 PM
This idea is grand... it has to be done. Imagine the exposure. The Nation watching on New Years Eve!!

mstrmac1
12-08-2007, 06:15 PM
And I' ll back it up w/ the first donation of $500!

kill the banks
12-08-2007, 06:16 PM
genius ~ even for the day or two during teaparty ... esp. if it can update the numbers

kill the banks

Paul.Bearer.of.Injustice
12-08-2007, 06:18 PM
Awesome idea. Have it start at 12:01am on Sunday 12/16, millions of people will be out and about at that time.

Paul.Bearer.of.Injustice
12-08-2007, 06:20 PM
Also, cabbies have tickers on the roofs of their cars as well... that would be a sh*t load of exposure if we could rent time on a fleet of taxis.

Dutch
12-08-2007, 06:23 PM
$368K for 3 months works out to about $4000 a day.
Even only 1 day on Dec 16th would be Awesome (c)!

Dutch
(c) Wolf Blitzer

Shellshock1918
12-08-2007, 06:28 PM
Excellent Idea!

TheNewYorker
12-08-2007, 06:32 PM
$368K for 3 months works out to about $4000 a day.
Even only 1 day on Dec 16th would be Awesome (c)!

Dutch
(c) Wolf Blitzer

So let's run it for 3 days prior to the 16th, and on the 16th.

About $16,000. Let's start the chipin fellas! And we need to get on this ASAP with only 5 days left!

TheNewYorker
12-08-2007, 06:34 PM
We should have it counting down in H:M:S for 3 days until the 16th, with a link to ron paul's website on it, to attract donors.

Then on the 16th, the screen switches over to the widget showing the donations flowing in. We can do this!

Even if it's $5,000 a day, that would only be $20,000 for 4 days which is all we need! With a chipin, we could have the money by tommorow night, $20,000 is nothing.

If the ronpaulblimp crew got on it with their for-profit company, heck we could even raise more.

Shellshock1918
12-08-2007, 06:35 PM
So let's run it for 3 days prior to the 16th, and on the 16th.

About $16,000. Let's start the chipin fellas! And we need to get on this ASAP with only 5 days left!

Assuming it hasn't been rented for that time already.

TheNewYorker
12-08-2007, 06:37 PM
Assuming it hasn't been rented for that time already.

That's why we need to get on this asap! And there's TONS of screens in times square, i'm sure there's one that hasn't been rented yet or one that is about to expire.

mortepa
12-08-2007, 06:41 PM
I would be in for sure!!! $100.00 for me, count on it.

hawkeyenick
12-08-2007, 06:42 PM
Times Square will reach millions upon millions and be easy to cover...we should all head to new york on years if we can and get the signs in the background over everyone watching!

mstrmac1
12-08-2007, 06:42 PM
I cant supply time but I'll help w/ some money. Keep me updated w/ more info.

theprolific
12-08-2007, 06:43 PM
great idea!

ReallyNow
12-08-2007, 06:44 PM
According to this website
http://webpavement.blogspot.com/2005/05/times-square-advertising-business.html
The cost per month is in the 200k-350k range

This one says Sony's Jumbotron is very affordable per 60 second advertisement
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE7DD1E3AF932A0575BC0A9659582 60

hawkeyenick
12-08-2007, 06:48 PM
this needs to get done asap, the fuckabees will be all over it if they see this!

ReallyNow
12-08-2007, 06:48 PM
If anyone is signed up for Ad Age, there's a chart of times square advertising prices here http://www.adage.com/news.cms?newsId=44975

icon124
12-08-2007, 06:51 PM
also guys remember if u want this up on new years eve it's probably gonna cost more...cosidering all the attention they get on that day

westmich4paul
12-08-2007, 07:04 PM
I would definately do $200.00 to put this ticker right in goulianis hometown. Try for a location right across the street from mtv so when they do trl everyday the screen can be seen by all. This idea is definately do-able and well especially by us. I am starting to develop the superman complex. Being a Paul suporter makes you feel anything is achievable!

wealeat
12-08-2007, 07:04 PM
If this is possible, I think it is a great idea.

westmich4paul
12-08-2007, 07:05 PM
Another great idea is if we could purchase ad space on the field for superbowl. Could you imagine right on the 30 yard line the Ron Paul r3volution logo! Man that would be sweeeeeeeeeeeeet!

TheNewYorker
12-08-2007, 07:07 PM
Here's some concept art I made. And my take on how it should be.


For 3 days prior to the 16th, we should have the following image on the screen counting down until the 16th:
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9278/32626571nr4.jpg


Then on the 16th, the widget gets popped in on the screen in an i-frame, from the official website, showing the current donations live:
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3234/86470498zj4.jpg


Of course this is just some quick concept art. Final design should be much better.

hawkeyenick
12-08-2007, 07:09 PM
I just realized something

HIS NAME ISN'T ANYWHERE!

How are people suppose to know what is going on if they don't see a name?

AlexAmore
12-08-2007, 07:21 PM
AlexAmore approves of this idea! http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Happy/happy-102.gif

wealeat
12-08-2007, 07:26 PM
Another great idea is if we could purchase ad space on the field for superbowl. Could you imagine right on the 30 yard line the Ron Paul r3volution logo! Man that would be sweeeeeeeeeeeeet!

This is sarcasm, correct?

Zym
12-08-2007, 07:27 PM
This is an excellent idea, rent it from midnight until midnight on the tea party. It will get a LOT of media coverage. Imagine the MSM in NY trying to ignore the bomb when they watch the numbers update on the way to work. I would put a tea party graphic with it, and show video or pictures, in between the updates. EVERY screen should have Ron Paul's name on it.

Make it so!

kevinblack
12-08-2007, 07:30 PM
This is sarcasm, correct?

No!, nothing related to Superbowl advertising is sarcasm.

Superbowl = February 3rd
Giga Tuesday = Frebruary 5th. This is THE DAY where half of the GOP delegates will be chosen.

I am 100% behind times square add, 100% behind superbowl anything.

The Plan
12-08-2007, 07:48 PM
This HAS to be done. Not only does times squaer get viseted by allot of people on newyears, there are also allot of tv programs that go on in the area live from times square. Lots more free advertising. Get this ball rollin now!!!!!

celticsman7
12-08-2007, 07:52 PM
Somebody call up Times Square and get a web-site going for donations. It should span from noon December 15 until midnight December 16.

Dutch
12-08-2007, 08:48 PM
Bump!

knappz
12-08-2007, 09:12 PM
Bump

hawkeyenick
12-08-2007, 09:14 PM
This is a great idea, but having the counter won't work because no one knows what it's counting.

dcatman
12-08-2007, 09:17 PM
This is a great idea, but having the counter won't work because no one knows what it's counting.

Why not "RON PAUL for PRESIDENT"?? Let's not get too complicated

wealeat
12-08-2007, 09:20 PM
No!, nothing related to Superbowl advertising is sarcasm.

Superbowl = February 3rd
Giga Tuesday = Frebruary 5th. This is THE DAY where half of the GOP delegates will be chosen.

I am 100% behind times square add, 100% behind superbowl anything.

The problem is that 30 seconds during the Super Bowl will be over 2 million. A superimposed ad on the field would be astronomical.

jake
12-08-2007, 09:21 PM
love it..

tonyTheBest
12-08-2007, 09:30 PM
Lets do this.

Got to start it now because the time is against us.

vadimg
12-08-2007, 09:35 PM
Let me know what you guys think, i think it
would be cool to put up a live ticker on one of
those big tv screens in times square or
elsewhere, either for dec 16th or new
years or super tuesday





http://donate2008.org/ronpaultime.gif

http://donate2008.org/ronpaultime2.gif

hawkeyenick
12-08-2007, 09:40 PM
http://donate2008.org/ronpaultime2.gif

What about the actual funding of the billboards?

koob
12-08-2007, 09:41 PM
you people. i tell you this is the most epic grassroots effort ever. i SHOULD say it's over the top and a bit excessive, but i love it. i simply love it!

vadimg
12-08-2007, 09:46 PM
hey guys, i just bot RonPaulTime.com will be up shortly i will let yall know

MGreen
12-08-2007, 09:47 PM
This would be absolutely perfect for the 16th, assuming we can somehow get it done within the next week. I imagine it's a very busy shopping weekend, and I for one would die to see the ticker on a Times Square billboard.

Of course, if we go that far out, we damn well better reach $10 million that day. It has already been advertised that $10 million is our goal, and it would be embarrassing to go all out on a Times Square ad only to fall short.

hawkeyenick
12-08-2007, 09:52 PM
This would be absolutely perfect for the 16th, assuming we can somehow get it done within the next week. I imagine it's a very busy shopping weekend, and I for one would die to see the ticker on a Times Square billboard.

Of course, if we go that far out, we damn well better reach $10 million that day. It has already been advertised that $10 million is our goal, and it would be embarrassing to go all out on a Times Square ad only to fall short.

not for the 16th, for new years!

vadimg
12-08-2007, 09:54 PM
If we are gonna go with this, i will try to organize this event, will contact advertising companies on Monday morning, then we can decide what type of graphics to use, time period, budget and how the fund will be collected, lets not repeat previous mistakes. RonPaulTime.com will be up shortly

philipsantamaria
12-08-2007, 09:54 PM
There are 1000+ NYC Meet Up Members...you guys need to make this happen, the rest of us will send the funds!!!

TheNewYorker
12-08-2007, 09:55 PM
If we are gonna go with this, i will try to organize this event, will contact advertising companies on Monday morning, then we can decide what type of graphics to use, time period, budget and how the fund will be collected, lets not repeat previous mistakes. RonPaulTime.com will be up shortly

With you being here for less than a month and only 27 posts, you better be legit!

vadimg
12-08-2007, 09:59 PM
With you being here for less than a month and only 27 posts, you better be legit!

fine, do you want to organize this? if not let Trevor handle it, but i think they have their hands full

mstrmac1
12-08-2007, 10:05 PM
fine, do you want to organize this? if not let Trevor handle it, but i think they have their hands full

Just do it. Like always just keep everyone updated and as it becomes more real each day more will donate. agree?

StateofTrance
12-08-2007, 10:09 PM
I was thinking about this idea many months ago..It could be achievable if everybody chips in.

celticsman7
12-08-2007, 10:13 PM
We need a donation fund for this immediately. I think the only way it will work is if we get a massive donation from an individual because they're not going to give it to us on credit (I don't think at least). And it would be crazy if we could have it up for two weeks.

As far as reasonable sums we can get by next Friday (5 donating days), I'd bet on 20,000 people donating $20 each, that adds up to $400,000, enough for an ad I think.

ksuguy
12-08-2007, 10:14 PM
If we can do it for just a couple days and the cost is reasonable, I will definitely chip in for it.

Lucid American
12-08-2007, 11:02 PM
First there will be a premium for the occasion; second, since the standard is a month, a few days will certainly be marked up, as well.

That said, even $10k or so would be worth it for NYE.

vadimg
12-08-2007, 11:04 PM
the site is up

http://www.ronpaultime.com/


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TechnoGuyRob
12-08-2007, 11:04 PM
With you being here for less than a month and only 27 posts, you better be legit!

I can vouch for him, he's legit.

vadimg
12-08-2007, 11:06 PM
I can vouch for him, he's legit.

Thanks Rob

http://www.ronpaultime.com/


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mstrmac1
12-08-2007, 11:10 PM
Thanks Rob

http://www.ronpaultime.com/


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Holy shit.... um Thank You!

rory096
12-08-2007, 11:12 PM
It occurs to me that just having the counter up there won't be effective if what they have planned for it to be after it reaches $12,000,000 isn't good. For example, if they just have a celebratory thing instead of continuing to count, or if it glitches and just goes above the thermometer, then it won't look good after the first few hours of the day (when we reach $12 million).

mstrmac1
12-08-2007, 11:19 PM
It occurs to me that just having the counter up there won't be effective if what they have planned for it to be after it reaches $12,000,000 isn't good. For example, if they just have a celebratory thing instead of continuing to count, or if it glitches and just goes above the thermometer, then it won't look good after the first few hours of the day (when we reach $12 million).

I agree but W/any idea we need to focus on what first.... and that is securing the billboard.

mstrmac1
12-08-2007, 11:34 PM
bump

ForLibertyFight
12-08-2007, 11:41 PM
bump

wealeat
12-08-2007, 11:46 PM
So what is the target date? Dec. 14-17 or NYE-Jan. 1?

kill the banks
12-08-2007, 11:54 PM
run a few ads ~ like the one at utube debate
say i love that site ... remarkable the flow of consciousness and creativity

" amazing " lol

kill the banks

Man from La Mancha
12-08-2007, 11:54 PM
I'll wait till I see costs and specific times for those cost. But this is exciting especially during New Years and the Holidays.

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mopar.bo
12-09-2007, 12:00 AM
I think the counter should go up. I can imagine a lot of people donating just to see their name go up in Times Square. They'd take pictures, send them to friends and family. It could really work out great.

ghemminger
12-09-2007, 12:00 AM
The guys are working on this site... We could add a party effect to this promo idea...


http://www.ronpaulmoneyball.com/

Perium
12-09-2007, 12:06 AM
I am up for donating some money to this if we start getting some more details about it.

vadimg
12-09-2007, 12:06 AM
So what is the target date? Dec. 14-17 or NYE-Jan. 1?

Will know more hopefully by Monday night

http://ronpaultime.com


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Copperhed51
12-09-2007, 12:09 AM
I sure hope there's something available. This is probably one of the best ideas I've seen here in a long time.

vadimg
12-09-2007, 12:09 AM
The guys are working on this site... We could add a party effect to this promo idea...


http://www.ronpaulmoneyball.com/

add party theme to the site or the entire project?

http://ronpaultime.com



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literatim
12-09-2007, 12:16 AM
It may not be able to show such a thing live. So you may have to settle for simply a nice Ron Paul advertisement. Something like this will need a PAC backing it.

Lucid American
12-09-2007, 12:18 AM
I think the counter should go up. I can imagine a lot of people donating just to see their name go up in Times Square. They'd take pictures, send them to friends and family. It could really work out great.

That's a great point!

mstrmac1
12-09-2007, 12:22 AM
bump

vadimg
12-09-2007, 12:28 AM
can we dedicate a special forum section for this project otherwise this post will get barried and will get less attention, thanks

http://ronpaultime.com



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wealeat
12-09-2007, 12:30 AM
Yea, this should be made into a forum in the "Grassroots Projects" section.

Lucid American
12-09-2007, 12:31 AM
And yes, it should be kept under wraps as much as possible until next week.

mstrmac1
12-09-2007, 12:47 AM
agree!

FireofLiberty
12-09-2007, 05:10 AM
Wow! This is what I LOVE about the REVOLUTION: Someone floats an idea and in less than 24 hours after that idea is floated someone has already created a website for it!

grfgerger
12-09-2007, 05:25 AM
Great idea!!

clinchy
12-09-2007, 06:34 AM
This idea is great. I'll chip in. Good Photoshopping, vadimg!

tsetsefly
12-09-2007, 06:56 AM
this woudl be awesome get on it now! count me in for 50!

c0unterph0bia
12-09-2007, 07:09 AM
Holy cow this seems like a good idea. Seems like something HQ should do though because it really needs to be done as quickly as possible. How long would it take us to raise this money?

troyd1
12-09-2007, 07:30 AM
Awesome idea. Have it start at 12:01am on Sunday 12/16, millions of people will be out and about at that time.
My thoughts exactly or the 3 days before. The sooner the better. We should also promote the tea party on there.


this needs to get done asap, the fuckabees will be all over it if they see this!
They could never raise that kind of money and I don't think they have those kind of leaders.

I would certainly donate to this. The campaign will not do this.

smartbandwidth
12-09-2007, 08:40 AM
Great idea!

Turn it into a youtube channel for posting all the GREAT Ron Paul videos that have been done. In between the videos you update with the level of money raised, etc.

Even have commentators - everyday folks supporting Ron Paul - from around the country.

The sound is the only issue. I am sure they don't allow enough sound on Times Square for people walking by to be able to hear.

hawkeyenick
12-09-2007, 10:31 AM
Keep this bumped guys!

hawkeyenick
12-09-2007, 10:43 AM
Seriously guys, this could be the best idea yet....keep this thing bumped!!!

rory096
12-09-2007, 10:45 AM
This doesn't really need to be bumped all the time. That guy's going to get the quotes tomorrow and there's not much to do until then.

garrettwombat
12-09-2007, 10:51 AM
well we only have 1 week til december 16 i say if we act ASAP we could get the LCD billboard by mid week, and it would only run for 3-4 days... that could not be more than 20k

think of the publicity, this is an amazing idea, new york meetup groups UNITE!

bobmurph
12-09-2007, 10:57 AM
NEW YORK -- It is a signature of America's marketing and financial prowess, a world-famous tourist attraction and one of the country's most coveted marketing communications venues: Times Square. Awesomely bright and shamelessly gaudy, its billboards towering above the Broadway and

The 11 ad spaces on One and Two Times Square cost up to $350,000 a month.
Also see: CHART OF TIMES SQUARE ADVERTISING PRICES
42nd Street neighborhood are also among the country's most effective -- and most expensive -- advertisements.
But how much do they cost and are they worth it?

Consider this: While 30-second Super Bowl commercials cost $2.6 million each and reach 80 million people, the One Times Square tower draws 211 million pairs of eyeballs when the New Year's Eve ball drops, according to the president of Sherwood Outdoor, Brian Turner. "We like to think of [the Super Bowl] as just a tailgating party," he said.

$325,000 a month
Like many involved in the buying and selling of Times Square ad space, Mr. Turner is circumspect about the daily financial details. He wouldn't comment on advertising prices at One and Two Times Square but industry estimates peg the monthly rates for the 11 spaces on the two landmarks at $200,000 to $350,000 each.

According to media sellers, the rental prices for ad real estate varies widely depending, in part, on size and -- like everything else in Manhattan -- location. Electronics giant LG is said to be paying $165,000 per month for its corner-wrapping placement space above Planet Hollywood at 45th street and Broadway. The Mountain Dew sign just below it goes for $175,000 a month. Washington Mutual's six-story-high three-dimensional display of a giant beanstalk section topped by a castle costs $165,000 a month.

Of course, those prices cover only the rental space and not the price of the physical sign or its supporting technology -- costs that regularly rise into the millions for the customized, weatherproof, high-definition LED sign displays that have become so popular. At 135 feet long and 26 feet wide, the J.P. Morgan Chase sign at the base of the Reuters building at 42nd Street and 7th Avenue, for example, was a $10.3 million investment. It boasts 10 times the resolution of the average TV set.

Since 1935
Most ad buys in Times Square are long-term, multiyear deals, although some movie studio and TV network ads appear for just a month or two, according to sellers. At the famous One Times Square, for example, marketers sign on for 10-year


The cost of the space rental is separate from that of the actual physical display devices -- some cost upward of $5 million.
stints -- although the Coca-Cola Co.'s sign on Two Times Square has been there since 1935. Several other marketers, including Wm. Wrigley Jr. Co.'s Wrigley brand, Planters nuts and Anheuser-Busch's Budweiser have had longstanding presences in the area, but have moved around to different spots.
Incumbency in the area is a powerful advantage. Target Corp. recently bought all nine billboards for a total of 23,000 square feet on a newly constructed 42nd Street building called Times Square Tower. The impact of the unprecedented deal has been lauded by many in the industry as one of the best outdoor buys in recent time and it's highly unlikely the retailer will give up its incumbency any time soon -- thanks to the low odds of again being able to acquire so many concentrated spots.

The long-term deals also help justify the multimillion-dollar production costs for the high-tech automated and electronic boards.

Impact of technology
"As the tech grows so does the space," said Jessica Coates, spectacular specialist for Viacom Outdoor. "If it's a single ad unit -- LG, Pepsi, AT&T, Con Ed -- those are a long-term leases anywhere from 10 years on. But they're constantly changing out the creative and technology to keep up with the times."

Times Square draws 40 million annual individual visitors -- roughly equivalent to 14% of the U.S. population. Kodak estimates the area's in more than 100 million snapshots a year. If the Times Square were an Arbitron metro media market, it would rank No. 152, right there between Rockford, Ill., and Flagstaff, Ariz.

The prime billboard neighborhood stretches north-south from 53rd to 41st streets and east-west from 6th to 8th avenues. Aside from building-sized advertisements, it also boasts a work force of 274,000 and includes entertainment, finance and media companies, counting ABC studios,

Often used as a backdrop for TV shows and movies, the reach of Times Square ads is global and long term.
Ernst & Young and Conde Nast Publications among its residents.
Microcosm of global business
"It's a microcosm of global business," said Michael Steinberg, vice president of sales and marketing for Clear Channel's Spectacolor division. And that influx of business has made Times Square a place for targeted ad buys as well as ego buys. "You can put a sign in front of Lehman Brothers and Morgan Stanley for less than what you'd probably pay to run in a monthly trade that covers the financial industry," Mr. Steinberg said.

The overall annual Time Square advertising business is estimated to be worth $69 million, in a market dominated by outdoor players such as Viacom, Clear Channel, Sherwood, Van Wagner and Vista Media. Cost-per-thousand-viewers impressions for the area range from $2 to $5, compared to around $20 for a prime-time network TV buy. Individual monthly rates vary as well, depending on a variety of factors: Is the sign directly across from a busy subway stop? Can it be seen from MTV's Total Request Live studio? Does the sign make it on the annual New Year's Eve broadcast?

Immeasurable bonus impressions
Then there's the immeasurable bonus impressions through residual media -- on TV shows like CSI: New York, in movies, magazines, newspapers, postcards and coffee table books. "You watch the 6 p.m. news and you have two major TV networks broadcasting from Times Square -- ABC and MTV," said Tommy Turner, senior vice president and partner of Van Wagner Outdoor, which has had a longtime presence in the area. "That's legitimate, even if it's incalculable. It's people from Peking to Minneapolis."

celticsman7
12-09-2007, 11:14 AM
Realistically, if it costs $350,000 for a one month ad plus let's say $2 million for the costs of putting it up, it'd be tough but we'd probably be able to do it.

Let's round it off to $2.5 million. This quarter, 125,000 have donated to the Ron Paul campaign. If each of those contributors were to give $20 then it would cover those costs. However, whether we'd be able to get the money together in two weeks is another issue. And can we get those 125,000 contributors to donate again? I don't know.

I do know that there are probably a few dozen RP supporters that would happily give $20,000 or so to chip in for such an extravagent and exciting ad. One supporter bought a USA Today ad, there's definately others that would chip in big amounts ith this.

Primbs
12-09-2007, 11:15 AM
It seems like you get great bang for the buck. Especially if the commentators just mention in passing about the Ron Paul billboard. They will say something like "and we have a presidential campaign advertising here tonight at the New Years eve celebration. The Ron Paul folks are certainly enthusiastic about their candidate."

While everyone else bids up the price of superbowl ads, we can get some great prices for New Years eve.

hawkeyenick
12-09-2007, 11:17 AM
Realistically, if it costs $350,000 for a one month ad plus let's say $2 million for the costs of putting it up, it'd be tough but we'd probably be able to do it.

Let's round it off to $2.5 million. This quarter, 125,000 have donated to the Ron Paul campaign. If each of those contributors were to give $20 then it would cover those costs. However, whether we'd be able to get the money together in two weeks is another issue. And can we get those 125,000 contributors to donate again? I don't know.

I do know that there are probably a few dozen RP supporters that would happily give $20,000 or so to chip in for such an extravagent and exciting ad. One supporter bought a USA Today ad, there's definately others that would chip in big amounts ith this.

We just need to fire people up

This really only needs to be up for new years, that's when the real exposure is gotten anyway

bobmurph
12-09-2007, 11:17 AM
It seems like you get great bang for the buck. Especially if the commentators just mention in passing about the Ron Paul billboard. They will say something like "and we have a presidential campaign advertising here tonight at the New Years eve celebration. The Ron Paul folks are certainly enthusiastic about their candidate."

While everyone else bids up the price of superbowl ads, we can get some great prices for New Years eve.

That would be spectacular if it was still up there on NYE! Think of all the additional TV coverage we would get from all the shows that broadcast from Times Square.

hawkeyenick
12-09-2007, 11:18 AM
That would be spectacular if it was still up there on NYE! Think of all the additional TV coverage we would get from all the shows that broadcast from Times Square.

Imagine seeing the ball drop with a ron paul billboard right below it...and below that 10s of thousands of ron paul supporters waving signs!

rodent
12-09-2007, 11:23 AM
As a New Yorker who lived in that area, I think this is kind of a waste of money. I don't think those signs hit that many people -- I think they're just a status thing. Most non-tourists (the bulk of traffic) just pass through and maybe casually glance. It's no place for deep political messages.

I think a better sign, actually, is the one that can be seen on top of the CNN building from the 72nd and Broadway 1-2-3 station when you come out going south from the state.

hawkeyenick
12-09-2007, 11:27 AM
As a New Yorker who lived in that area, I think this is kind of a waste of money. I don't think those signs hit that many people -- I think they're just a status thing. Most non-tourists (the bulk of traffic) just pass through and maybe casually glance. It's no place for deep political messages.

I think a better sign, actually, is the one that can be seen on top of the CNN building from the 72nd and Broadway 1-2-3 station when you come out going south from the state.

New years, guys....20 million viewers!

Stop thinking month-long...we only need 2 days!

bobmurph
12-09-2007, 11:30 AM
New years, guys....20 million viewers!

Stop thinking month-long...we only need 2 days!

I like the idea of a NYE ad more than a teaparty ad. This is a nice project to start working on for after the teaparty. There aren't any big post teaparty events planned yet.

hawkeyenick
12-09-2007, 11:31 AM
I like the idea of a NYE ad more than a teaparty ad. This is a nice project to start working on for after the teaparty. There aren't any big post teaparty events planned yet.

Exactly, and what better way of brining the revolution to the american people 3 days before the first primarys than a bunch of ron paul supporters waving signs and billboard for the world to see?

I think this is something that would touch home with all americans, and get people past that "he can't win" mentality and on board.

fuzzybekool
12-09-2007, 11:33 AM
I will contribute. it looks like someone has a website up already. We need to know how much we need to collect, what will be advertised, when, and for how long.

Count me in.

fuzzybekool
12-09-2007, 11:37 AM
Lets make it just a 2-3 day thing. its cheaper.

BlutStein
12-09-2007, 11:49 AM
Oh I am so down. But if this works, expect to not see a live shot of time square, anywhere on tv, for a month or so.

vadimg
12-09-2007, 11:49 AM
Promo Video is uploaded , will know more info by Monday night

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhNfxpo1zeM

or

http://ronpaultime.com


Thanks for your support guys


.

Perium
12-09-2007, 11:55 AM
I rather do a 2-3 rental then a month. A lot easier to raise 20k then 130k.

bobmurph
12-09-2007, 11:56 AM
Promo Video is uploaded , will know more info by Monday night

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhNfxpo1zeM

or

http://ronpaultime.com


Thanks for your support guys


.

Great job!

hawkeyenick
12-09-2007, 11:58 AM
A massive 2-3day advertisment would be best, and a better value for our dollar

vadimg
12-09-2007, 12:08 PM
A massive 2-3day advertisment would be best, and a better value for our dollar

Yes i think we'll shoot for new years 2-3 days, dont know if they can have something short like this, we might have to pay up, but having his name up in TS and having a new years money bomb would be awesome

hawkeyenick
12-09-2007, 12:09 PM
Yes i think we'll shoot for new years 2-3 days, dont know if they can have something short like this, we might have to pay up, but having his name up in TS and having a new years money bomb would be awesome

Yep, the idea is to broadcast the revolution, for people to see that others are involved so that they get involved.

celticsman7
12-09-2007, 12:10 PM
If it went up in late December, like the 28th or 29th, and we attracted a lot of support for a New Year's MoneyBomb, we'd be looking at maybe $25 million for the 4th quarter. Unbelievable.

vadimg
12-09-2007, 12:26 PM
If it went up in late December, like the 28th or 29th, and we attracted a lot of support for a New Year's MoneyBomb, we'd be looking at maybe $25 million for the 4th quarter. Unbelievable.

thats the goal

mstrmac1
12-09-2007, 01:58 PM
Any new news?

vadimg
12-09-2007, 02:19 PM
Any new news?

no, have to wait till Monday to contact agencies, right now collecting all useful info.

grizzums
12-09-2007, 02:23 PM
no, have to wait till Monday to contact agencies, right now collecting all useful info.

I'm good for a couple hundred into this great idea......thread subscribed!

c0unterph0bia
12-09-2007, 03:56 PM
This has the possibility of a huge ROI

RonPaulCult
12-09-2007, 04:01 PM
As a New Yorker who lived in that area, I think this is kind of a waste of money. I don't think those signs hit that many people -- I think they're just a status thing. Most non-tourists (the bulk of traffic) just pass through and maybe casually glance. It's no place for deep political messages.

I think a better sign, actually, is the one that can be seen on top of the CNN building from the 72nd and Broadway 1-2-3 station when you come out going south from the state.

Well I lived in Hell's Kitchen just a few blocks west of Times Square for four years and I disagree with you that it's a waste of money and that it's mostly non-tourists.

I always got the impression that it was MOSTLY tourists hanging out in time square year round. You could tell because the rest of the city knows how to walk. But people in Times Square just get in your way and stop to look around when they should KEEP WALKING.

Another thing to consider is the press we would get for having a sign in Times Square. I don't think Wolf Blitzer is going to say "amazing amazing" about having a sign on the Upper West Side.

BW4Paul
12-09-2007, 04:50 PM
This has the possibility of a huge ROI

I lived near Times Square for a summer and I agree with this. While it's true that the *native* New Yorkers won't notice or care about a Ron Paul sign, native New Yorkers don't notice or care about anything. ;)

Tourists, on the other hand, simply love love love to stop at each block and gawk at all the signs around them. And, as is noted above, TImes Square is filled with mostly tourists (natives tend to avoid the place because walking trying to walk through there is so slow). These giant hordes of tourists come from all over the nation and even the world. What a great way to expose people from all across the the country to a Ron Paul while only having to pay for one sign in a single location!

greatej
12-09-2007, 08:13 PM
Has anyone thought of another billboard on the Las Vegas strip? That would get the locals and tourists from all around the world. Plus Las Vegas is the largest city in NH, IW, SC, or NV.

I think RP has a lot of untapped potential in the state with quite possibly the most libertarian laws in the country... legal gambling, legal prostitution, no state income tax, easy marriage, a proposition to legalize marijuana even got about 45% in the 2006 election. I think he could be over 12% in the NV polls easily if his message got out there.

vadimg
12-09-2007, 08:29 PM
Has anyone thought of another billboard on the Las Vegas strip? That would get the locals and tourists from all around the world. Plus Las Vegas is the largest city in NH, IW, SC, or NV.

I think RP has a lot of untapped potential in the state with quite possibly the most libertarian laws in the country... legal gambling, legal prostitution, no state income tax, easy marriage, a proposition to legalize marijuana even got about 45% in the 2006 election. I think he could be over 12% in the NV polls easily if his message got out there.

the plan is to look into other major cities if NYC doesnt fly

vadimg
12-09-2007, 09:51 PM
this idea made it on youtube honor list for today!

http://www.youtube.com/browse?t=t&p=5&s=tr&c=25&l=

#95 as of right now

cmon rate it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhNfxpo1zeM

Nyte
12-09-2007, 10:04 PM
cmon rate it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhNfxpo1zeM

rated. ;)

Pete Kay
12-09-2007, 10:22 PM
Well I just did the math. SONY sells time on their jumbotron at $35 for 60 secs. At a full 24 hours that's $50,400. That's a lot of cash for one day.

Maybe we could purchase 60 seconds every ten minutes that way the ticker will constantly come up for everyone to see. That's only $5040. That's not much. We could do it every 5 minutes for only $1080. We should look into it.

If we put some cool graphics around the ticker saying something like "Watch the r3VOLution brewing" or something along those lines people would know what the ticker is for every time it comes up.

hawkeyenick
12-09-2007, 10:42 PM
Well I just did the math. SONY sells time on their jumbotron at $35 for 60 secs. At a full 24 hours that's $50,400. That's a lot of cash for one day.

Maybe we could purchase 60 seconds every ten minutes that way the ticker will constantly come up for everyone to see. That's only $5040. That's not much. We could do it every 5 minutes for only $1080. We should look into it.

If we put some cool graphics around the ticker saying something like "Watch the r3VOLution brewing" or something along those lines people would know what the ticker is for every time it comes up.

Buy up new years eve...problem solved!

vadimg
12-09-2007, 10:46 PM
Well I just did the math. SONY sells time on their jumbotron at $35 for 60 secs. At a full 24 hours that's $50,400. That's a lot of cash for one day.

Maybe we could purchase 60 seconds every ten minutes that way the ticker will constantly come up for everyone to see. That's only $5040. That's not much. We could do it every 5 minutes for only $1080. We should look into it.

If we put some cool graphics around the ticker saying something like "Watch the r3VOLution brewing" or something along those lines people would know what the ticker is for every time it comes up.

good points will know more tomorrow

vadimg
12-09-2007, 10:51 PM
Buy up new years eve...problem solved!

that is probably going to be the case, i am shooting for the Reuters building and about $100k budget

atthegates
12-09-2007, 11:14 PM
this idea is incredible and i say we try to bring it to fruition

hawkeyenick
12-09-2007, 11:19 PM
this idea is incredible and i say we try to bring it to fruition

immediately after the tea party, of course!

vadimg
12-10-2007, 09:28 AM
Just talked to 2 marketing directors and emailed to 3 people and left voice mail, so far nothing new, however one person told me that getting political message on TS would be pretty hard, so will see what happens, I expect to get a couple of phone calls by the end of the day, i will keep yall informed.

mstrmac1
12-10-2007, 04:31 PM
Just talked to 2 marketing directors and emailed to 3 people and left voice mail, so far nothing new, however one person told me that getting political message on TS would be pretty hard, so will see what happens, I expect to get a couple of phone calls by the end of the day, i will keep yall informed.

Dont give up. Let us know!

Eric21ND
12-10-2007, 04:57 PM
bump

TwinTurboMike
12-11-2007, 03:28 AM
That'd be incredible if you can pull this off. I'd reiterate the necessity to Digg it up on Digg.com tho. There are a LOT of Ron Paul supporters on Digg. The funds would be made in no time if it would hit the front page. Ask your friends to Digg it up as well. It can't hurt.

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Ron_Paul_Times_Square_Live_Money_Counter

gpickett00
12-11-2007, 03:34 AM
keep trying! dont give up!

Matthew Zak
12-11-2007, 04:24 AM
I can't get the message to post on you tube.

Doesn't this have to be done in like 6 hours?

aknappjr
12-11-2007, 06:07 AM
Don't waste your money. This will get no media attention. There is no story to "new billboard placed in Times Square".

jordie
12-11-2007, 06:18 AM
this idea made it on youtube honor list for today!

http://www.youtube.com/browse?t=t&p=5&s=tr&c=25&l=

#95 as of right now

cmon rate it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhNfxpo1zeM


Rated! Also added it to stumble upon. Everyone else who uses it, Thumb Up this video!

FireofLiberty
12-11-2007, 07:31 AM
What's the difference between buying ad time and donating via the ChipIn on the ronpaultime.com site?

tomjammarsh
12-11-2007, 07:54 PM
I'll donate $50.00 if you can get a list of 250 other people donating.

adam1mc
12-11-2007, 10:23 PM
There is a discussion on the DailyPaul that this could be a scam and I think I may agree. I analyze spyware, virus's and phishing scams for a major AntiSpyware / AnitVirus vendor and after reviewing some things I agree that people should be cautious before donating to this cause.

The website is registered to:

Registrant:
vadim guchinskiy
8934 kruger
anchorage, Alaska 99502
United States



Vadim Guchinskiy is a very unique name in this Country and Google searches reveal several things.

1st - his name links to numerous "nutritional" pages that show Mr. Guchinskiy has been working in Michigan. (even though I question the authenticity of these claims)
http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Guchinskiy_Vadim_897824521.aspx

Additional searches reveal Vadim's blog, which was only started a few days ago. But the interesting part of this is the blog says he is in South Carolina.
http://futurewithronpaul.blogspot.com/

The zoominfo page says that Vadim is the owner of Research In Light however I can't find anything about them on the internet and the researchinlight website is just a parking space for advertisements.

The whois info for researchinlight is restricted so we can't see who own's that domain.

Also the zoominfo page says that he is the author of "Power Cleansing" but the only reference I can find to "Power Cleansing" is in regard to drug test drinks.

As a security expert for a well known and major security company I would advise against contributing to this guy for the simple fact that his information does not line up and his support for Ron Paul is only a few days old.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=YaH&q=%22Power+Cleansing%22+vadim&btnG=Search