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Lucille
08-17-2016, 02:56 PM
"Awful nice medical system you got there. Be a shame if something happened to it."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-17/more-crony-capitalism-aetna-gives-ultimatum-doj-if-humana-deal-blocked-we-exit-obama


US health insurer Aetna already made waves earlier this week when it announced on Monday that it would exit 11 of 15 state exchanges in which it offers Obamacare plans as a result of mushrooming financial losses. While that move was largely expected due to the inherent flaws in Obamacare, today it surprised market watchers, and its shareholders, again by handing an ultimatum to the Department of Justice, and thus the US government, threatening it would immediately reduce its presence in the remaining Affordable Care Act exchanges and cancel a planned expansion, if its merger with Humana was blocked.

Amusingly, the analysis of the announcement broke down firmly along party line: according to some, the previous decision to exit more than two-thirds of Obamacare exchanges was the first shot across the DOJ's bow, coming a few weeks after the Department of Justice filed a suit to stop the Humana merger. Prominent Republicans, including Donald Trump’s campaign, said the move, which came after similar ones by other major insurers, reflected flaws of the ACA. Others, notably those with a more Democratic bent, including Elizabeth Warren, suggested that Aetna’s stance on the exchanges was affected by the Justice Department’s decision. “The health of the American people should not be used as bargaining chips to force the government to bend to one giant company’s will,” she wrote in a Facebook post.

Of course, it could well be both. As the WSJ notes, Aetna wouldn’t be the only insurer to link its exchange position to a hoped-for deal. Anthem has publicly said that if it is able to consummate its acquisition of Cigna , a combination that is also facing a Justice Department suit, the merged company would likely expand into nine new exchange states.

In a July 5 letter to the Justice Department, reviewed by The Wall Street Journal, Aetna said that if the Humana deal drew a legal challenge, “instead of expanding to 20 states next year, we would reduce our presence to no more than 10 states.” In addition, the letter, signed by Aetna Chief Executive Mark T. Bertolini, said the insurer believed “it is very likely that we would need to leave the public exchange business entirely and plan for additional business efficiencies should our deal ultimately be blocked.”

Sure enough, one month later, Aetna executed on its warning with a dramatic reduction of its Obamacare offerings. It may only escalte from there.


The company said in the letter that an antitrust suit or a successful prevention of its deal would create financial strains that would force it to pull back from the exchanges, where it was losing money. “Although we remain supportive of the Administration’s efforts to expand coverage, we must also face market realities. Our customers expect us to keep their insurance products affordable and continually improving, and our shareholders expect that we will generate a market return on invested capital for them,” the letter said.

While it is undisputed that contrary to expectations, Obamacare has ended up being a far greater drain on profits than insurance providers had expected - on August 2, Aetna disclosed that its ACA plans had lost approximately $200 million in the second quarter of 2016 and were expected to lose more than $300 million this year - this type of "bargaining" with the government is disturbing, as it suggests a quid-pro-quo arrangement with the government is not only possible but expected when making corporate decisions.

An Aetna spokesman told the WSJ the letter came in response to a Justice Department request. After it was sent, “we then gained full visibility into our second quarter individual products loss, which is what ultimately drove us to narrow our 2017 public exchange presence,” he said.

Call it non-GAAP visibility.

In the letter, Aetna told the Justice Department that it was “challenged to get to break even this year” on its exchange business. CEO Bertolini wrote that, despite Aetna’s past support for the exchanges, “unfortunately, a challenge by the DOJ to that acquisition and/or the DOJ successfully blocking the transaction would have a negative financial impact on Aetna and would impair Aetna’s ability to continue its support, leaving Aetna with no choice but to take actions to steward its financial health.”

Specifically, he wrote, if the Justice Department sued to block the Humana combination, “we will immediately take action to reduce our 2017 exchange footprint,” canceling the planned five-state expansion, and “we would also withdraw from at least five additional states where generating a market return would take too long for us to justify, given the costs associated with a potential breakup of the transaction.”

But, Bertolini added, if you allow the deal to take place, all shall be well, because if the deal closed without an antitrust challenge, Aetna would “explore how to devote a portion of the additional synergies...to supporting even more public exchange coverage over the next few years.”

There is another name for this: crony capitalism of the worst kind, a hallmark feature of the Obama administration's new normal.

And the progs can just forget about "single payer." It's not gonna happen-ever-because even though statist acolytes are ineducable dumbasses, our rulers have learned a thing or two:

http://blog.independent.org/2012/10/30/once-more-with-feeling-our-system-is-not-socialism-but-participatory-fascism/


Participatory fascism’s second great advantage over socialism is that when serious economic problems do arise, as they have during the past five years, the rulers and their key supporters in the “private” sector can blame residual elements of the market system, and especially the richest people who operate in that system, for the perceived ills. No matter how much the problems arise from government intervention, it is always possible to lay the blame on actors and institutions in the remaining “free enterprises,” especially the biggest bankers and other apparent top dogs. Thus, fascistic rulers have build-in protection against popular reaction that the rulers in a socialist system lack. (Rulers under socialism tend to designate foreign governments and capitalists and domestic “wreckers” as the scapegoats for their mismanagement and inability to conduct economic affairs productively and fairly.)

Plus, like Tobias, they've got something of a mess on their hands.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljgv3sTDfB1qb17kao1_500.png

Healthcare In America: Countless Layers Of Grift And Counter-Grift
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-04/healthcare-america-countless-layers-grift-and-counter-grift


ObamaCare was designed to work like a giant roll of duct tape that would allow the current cast of characters in charge (Democratic Progressives) to pretend that the system could keep going a few years longer. But it looks like it has already blown out the patch on the manifold and is getting ready to throw a rod — which duct tape will not avail to fix.
[...]
This ghastly matrix of corruption really only has two ways to go. It can completely implode in a fairly short time frame (say, five years, tops), or we can, by some miracle of political will, get our priorities straight and sweep away all the layers of racketeering with a single-payer system. The evidence in other civilized countries is not so encouraging. England’s National Health Service has degenerated into a two layer system of half-assed soviet-style medicine for the proles and concierge service for the rich. France’s system works more democratically, but the nation is going bankrupt and eventually their health care network will fall apart. The Scandinavian countries have relatively tiny populations. I don’t know, frankly, how the Germans are doing.
[...]
You can argue that nobody complains about government spending on the highway system, so why should “the people” complain about organizing a medical system that really works? Obviously, there’s no consensus to make that happen. Too many doctors want to drive BMWs. Too many insurance executives and hospital administrators want to make multi-million dollar salaries. Too many lobbyist parasites and lawyers are feeding off that revenue stream. Too many politicians with gold-plated health insurance coverage don’t want to change the current distribution of goodies. End-of-story, as the late Tony Soprano used to say.

It’s the old quandary of fire or ice… which way do you want to go? Since I’m interested in reality-based outcomes, my bet would be on implosion. In any case, several of the other systems that currently support the activities of our society are scheduled for near-term implosion, too. That would be the banking-finance system, the energy supply system, and the industrial agriculture system. As those things wind down or crash, you can be sure that everything connected with them will be affected, so the chance that we could mount a real national health care system is, in my opinion, zero.

The ObamaCare duct-taped system will go down. The big hospitals, HMOs, insurers, pharma companies will all starve and shrivel. Like all things in the emergent new paradigm, they will reorganize on a small and much simpler basis. Everyone will make less money and high-tech medicine will probably dwindle for all but a very few… and for them, only for a while. Eventually, we’ll re-set to local clinic style medicine with far fewer resources, specialties, and miracle cures. There will be a whole lot less aggravation, though, and people may die more peacefully.

goldenequity
08-17-2016, 04:48 PM
This post is a sleeper.
This is YUGE... obamacare is not just 'dead'... as in 'dormant'.
It is detonating... the 'mess' it will make
is going to be catastrophic.
A big fat bump.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gBnYwPMxg8U/VWnUnaaVNRI/AAAAAAAAZQ0/kVrNVzbPN0Y/s1600/doctor-obamacare.jpg

The Reasoning is quite simple
and is the same reason Obamacare was doomed from the start.


As we've pointed out numerous times in the past,
the true downfall of Obamacare will be in its inherent "adverse selection bias."

"Sicker/older" people have every incentive to enroll
while "younger/healthier" people,
the ones that were supposed to subsidize everyone else by buying policies they didn't need,
are choosing to simply pay their penalties instead. ;)

So what you're left with...
is a pool of "sicker/older" people
who consume a massive amount of healthcare
but whom don't pay "their fair share"
because
Obamacare specifically caps the rates that can be charged to the "sicker/older" people
at 3x the rates charged to "younger/healthier" people
(who cares if they consume 20x more healthcare...3x just sounded about right :D).

Per Bloomberg, the major U.S. insurers are set to lose roughly $2BN on Obamacare in 2016.
UnitedHealth has announced they lost $850mm on Obamacare in 2016
Aetna, Anthem and Humana are expected to lose about $300mm each.

So, insurers are left with 2 options:
(1) pull out of Obamacare or
(2) implement massive premium hikes.
Well, turns out they're actually doing both.

Premiums are set to EXPLODE in 2017.

angelatc
08-17-2016, 05:02 PM
HRC wants to be the president who signs single payer into law.

goldenequity
08-17-2016, 05:17 PM
Eventually, we’ll re-set to local clinic style medicine with far fewer resources, specialties, and miracle cures.
There will be a whole lot less aggravation, though, and people may die more peacefully.

The last line in your post.
Sounds great. :)

Dr.3D
08-17-2016, 05:22 PM
So what happens when health insurance companies get "too big to fail?"

donnay
08-17-2016, 06:33 PM
Obamacare was destine to fail. It was nothing more than an expansion of medicare. With Boomer generation getting older there is not a enough young people to pay for it. Federal dependency was never the way to go and to forced to pay into it is a crime.

Obamacare was also designed to put smaller insurance businesses out of business so the Big Insurance companies can call the shots. In a truly free market this would not have happened and people could afford health insurance.

Occam's Banana
08-17-2016, 08:47 PM
[A]ccording to some, the previous decision to exit more than two-thirds of Obamacare exchanges was the first shot across the DOJ's bow, coming a few weeks after the Department of Justice filed a suit to stop the Humana merger. [...] Others [...] suggested that Aetna’s stance on the exchanges was affected by the Justice Department’s decision. [...]

Of course, it could well be both. [...]

There is another name for this: crony capitalism of the worst kind [...]

"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which." -- George Orwell, Animal Farm

Anti Federalist
08-17-2016, 11:43 PM
HRC wants to be the president who signs single payer into law.

Yup, this...and if you think health care is expensive now, just wait until it is "free".

Anti Federalist
08-17-2016, 11:46 PM
Obamacare was destine to fail. It was nothing more than an expansion of medicare. With Boomer generation getting older there is not a enough young people to pay for it. Federal dependency was never the way to go and to forced to pay into it is a crime.

Obamacare was also designed to put smaller insurance businesses out of business so the Big Insurance companies can call the shots. In a truly free market this would not have happened and people could afford health insurance.

And this.

Designed to fail from the start.

Zippyjuan
08-18-2016, 10:03 PM
So what happens when health insurance companies get "too big to fail?"

That is the concern about the merger. Two of the five largest insurance companies merging and another two of them also wanting to join each other would reduce the "big five" national insurance companies to just three. Anthem buying Cigna is the other proposed merger.

http://fortune.com/2016/07/08/justice-department-aetna-humana/


Investors have long been concerned the deal might pose a competition issue for antitrust regulators.
The U.S. Department of Justice has significant concerns about Aetna’s proposed acquisition of health insurer Humana, a source familiar with the situation said on Thursday, sending shares of Humana down as much as 11%.

Aetna’s purchase of Humana HUM 0.34% would combine two of the largest providers of Medicare Advantage plans for elderly people, and investors have long been concerned the deal might pose a competition issue for antitrust regulators.

The Justice Department is also reviewing Anthem’s ANTM -0.08% proposed purchase of Cigna CI 0.24% , and investors are worried it will fail because of its impact on competition in the employer insurance market. Together, the two deals would decrease the number of national health insurers to three from five.

Less competition could mean fewer options and higher costs for consumers. They are bailing on some exchanges to try to force the merger through.

Just in April- in their first quarterly report- they said they were strong and would stay in the exchanges. Blackmail.
http://www.businessinsider.com/aetna-humana-merger-reason-for-leaving-obamacare-2016-8


These statements, however, appeared to be a dramatic turnaround from the company's first-quarter earnings call in April, when CEO Mark Bertolini said the firm planned to stay in the exchanges and that the company was "in a very good place to make this a sustainable program."

Now, however, it appears a large reason for the shift in tone was the Department of Justice's lawsuit to block Aetna's merger with rival Humana.

They say the potential losses come not from business but the costs of trying to fight the DOJ on the merger. They talked about expansion into more Obamacare exchange markets.


"We currently plan, as part of our strategy following the acquisition, to expand from 15 states in 2016 to 20 states in 2017. However, if we are in the midst of litigation over the Humana transaction, given the risks described above, we will not be able to expand to the five additional states.


http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-aetna-obamacare-20160817-snap-story.html


Specifically, if the DOJ sues to enjoin the transaction, we will immediately take action to reduce our 2017 exchange footprint.
— Aetna CEO Mark Bertolini, to the Dept. of Justice


It isn't really about Obamacare- it is about giant corporations wanting to get gianter.

enhanced_deficit
08-18-2016, 10:06 PM
SWCcare heading towards its inevitable destiny.




This post is a sleeper.
This is YUGE... obamacare is not just 'dead'... as in 'dormant'.
It is detonating... the 'mess' it will make

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gBnYwPMxg8U/VWnUnaaVNRI/AAAAAAAAZQ0/kVrNVzbPN0Y/s1600/doctor-obamacare.jpg



Sounds dangerous but could be worse.

http://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/imce-images/dessin-obama-drone.jpg

Origanalist
08-18-2016, 10:34 PM
With any luck I will have missed the whole debacle. At least this stage of it.

Dr.3D
08-18-2016, 10:53 PM
With any luck I will have missed the whole debacle. At least this stage of it.
Too late for me, I lost a perfectly good physician over it. Now I've got some slob for a physician who doesn't seem to care about me at all.

Anti Federalist
08-19-2016, 02:52 PM
It isn't really about Obamacare- it is about giant corporations wanting to get gianter.

Of course it is...that was why the majors were in favor of it.

Five, maybe ten years, of massive mergers, billions of dollars, and then bail when the whole thing collapses and Soviet Medical is established under Madame President.

nobody's_hero
08-20-2016, 08:10 AM
HRC wants to be the president who signs single payer into law.

Not sure. Democrats are socialists but American socialists have figured out that you have to have private industry between you and the voters to deflect the blame.

We go to single payer and that damn system fails, there's no Aetna to point to and say, "Oooh, evil evil private rich people did this."

There's no one to blame between politicians and voters in single-payer.

They will put bandaids on the current system for as long as possible.