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Suzanimal
08-13-2016, 04:50 AM
Lovers of craft beer take heed: a new push for more stringent regulations is under serious consideration in the South, which could spell trouble for drinkers across the nation.

A new proposal in Alabama would require craft breweries and brew-pubs that sell products for off-premise consumption — think sales of growlers, craft cans and so forth — to record sensitive personal information from each customer. This would include the customer’s name, address, phone number and date of birth.

Opponents of the bill, however, are stepping up to ask an important question: What is the point of all this?

Would information about a citizen’s alcohol purchasing habits find their way into the hands of health insurance providers? Would advertisers manage to gain access to this sensitive information? Would the government itself use this data for any sketchy purpose?

“The implications of this should be highly concerning, not only to craft beer consumers, but to all people throughout the state,” noted Free the Hops, a grassroots organization made up primarily of craft brewery operators. “As nonsensical as it might seem, this rule would essentially empower [administrators] to come to an individual’s house to confirm his or her purchase of a six pack of beer.”

The stated aim of the proposal is not far off from that summary. Last March, the state passed a bill that allows breweries that make less than 60,000 barrels of beer per year to sell directly to customers for off-premise use, but with limits on how much each customer could purchase. Craft brewers praised the bill because it allowed them to can or growler-cap their own beer and sell it to customers, who would then take it home to drink. But the state-imposed limit of 288 ounces per customer per day created monitoring issues. Just how would the state make sure no one was going home with more than the allowed amount of beer?

More to the point, is such a limit even necessary?

Alabama legislators were silent on the question, preferring to defer to the state Alcoholic Beverage Control Board, which is the group that regulates the state’s alcohol industry. The rules and regulations of the ABC Board hold serious sway on how regular folks go about enjoying their buzzy suds.

This time, however, the board may have gone too far for consumers’ tastes. It claims that collecting personal information is the best way of assuring no one buys more beer than they are legally allotted.

But in the age of constant online monitoring, do we really need NSA-style tracking of our beer drinking habits?

“Even more concerning is that the ABC Board states that this information will be subject to their verification,” Free the Hops noted in their opposition statement. “The members of Free the Hops fully oppose this proposed rule. It represents an unprecedented, unnecessary, and overreaching invasion of privacy. It is something that unfairly targets beer consumers, but also, frankly, has frightening implications for everyone.”

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http://opportunitylives.com/new-rules-may-ruin-the-craft-beer-revolution/

Origanalist
08-13-2016, 01:48 PM
"Just how would the state make sure no one was going home with more than the allowed amount of beer?"

This is a serious issue, no one should go home with more than the allowed amount of beer. Because Anheuser-Busch, Coors etc. Give a lot of money to see that they don't.

Brian4Liberty
08-13-2016, 02:09 PM
No doubt pushed by the liqueur distributors and neo-prohibitionists.

Brian4Liberty
08-13-2016, 02:13 PM
"Just how would the state make sure no one was going home with more than the allowed amount of beer?"

This is a serious issue, no one should go home with more than the allowed amount of beer. Because Anheuser-Busch, Coors etc. Give a lot of money to see that they don't.

As long as you drink their substitute, fake craft-brews, the big boys have no problems with "craft brewing".

Origanalist
08-13-2016, 02:19 PM
As long as you drink their substitute, fake craft-brews, the big boys have no problems with "craft brewing".

No, they're all good with whatever amount you want to buy of their swill.

RJB
08-13-2016, 02:46 PM
Maybe this issue will push boobus to be more liberty minded.

Maybe not, but it pisses me off. Don't screw with my beer!

Anti Federalist
08-13-2016, 07:42 PM
Just another day in AmeriKa.

Anti Federalist
08-13-2016, 07:44 PM
Maybe this issue will push boobus to be more liberty minded.

Maybe not, but it pisses me off. Don't screw with my beer!

Nothing will push Boobus to be more liberty minded.

Boobus despises liberty.

Boobus would just as soon drink Uncle Sucker's piss, than stand up against this.

RJB
08-13-2016, 07:46 PM
Boobus would just as soon drink Uncle Sucker's piss, than stand up against this.

Is that called Millers, Budweiser or Coors?

Origanalist
08-13-2016, 07:54 PM
Nothing will push Boobus to be more liberty minded.

Boobus despises liberty.

Boobus would just as soon drink Uncle Sucker's piss, than stand up against this.

http://images.thesurge.com/app/uploads/2016/05/bud-america.jpg?1c4412

Suzanimal
08-13-2016, 07:58 PM
Nothing will push Boobus to be more liberty minded.

Boobus despises liberty.

Boobus would just as soon drink Uncle Sucker's piss, than stand up against this.


http://images.thesurge.com/app/uploads/2016/05/bud-america.jpg?1c4412

Y'all start calling America (Buttweiser) Uncle Sam's Piss and TheTexan will have his kids baptized in the swill.

Origanalist
08-13-2016, 08:05 PM
Y'all start calling America (Buttweiser) Uncle Sam's Piss and TheTexan will have his kids baptized in the swill.

Are you sure he hasnt?

Danke
08-13-2016, 08:07 PM
Are you sure he hasnt?

He uses Lone Star "beer."

CaseyJones
08-13-2016, 08:21 PM
no one drinks lone star, it is good for marinades and baking though

RJB
08-13-2016, 08:23 PM
He uses Lone Star "beer."

That horrible beer is even worse than Budweiser. I know. I enjoyed a case of that canoeing down the Rio Grande through Big Bend National Park.

Danke
08-13-2016, 08:27 PM
That horrible beer is even worse than Budweiser. I know. I enjoyed a case of that canoeing down the Rio Grande through Big Bend National Park.

Everything from Texas kinda sucks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMNw_-yUm_0

RJB
08-13-2016, 08:30 PM
Everything from Texas kinda sucks.

The only thing bigger than the state of Texas is the mouth of a Texan. --Me.

Suzanimal
08-13-2016, 08:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc

oyarde
08-13-2016, 08:42 PM
He uses Lone Star "beer."

Originally Alamo Beer in San Antonio 1874 , sold to Olympia about 100 years later , then sold again , then bought by Strohs now owned by Pabst . You can get some Lone Star Light in the Philippines. They quit brewing in San Antonio in 1996 , in 2000 the Pearl brewery was closed . Lone Star is made by Miller in FT Worth I think. Ft Worth is poisoned ground .

Danke
08-13-2016, 08:44 PM
My favorite:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg2c01fbxV4

RJB
08-13-2016, 08:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc

The last scene looks like it was filmed in Appalachia.

Danke
08-13-2016, 08:51 PM
Originally Alamo Beer in San Antonio 1874 , sold to Olympia about 100 years later , then sold again , then bought by Strohs now owned by Pabst . You can get some Lone Star Light in the Philippines. They quit brewing in San Antonio in 1996 , in 2000 the Pearl brewery was closed . Lone Star is made by Miller in FT Worth I think. Ft Worth is poisoned ground .

U sure are knowledgable about American shitty beer for an Injun.

Suzanimal
08-13-2016, 08:54 PM
My favorite:



Why do pilots wear the goofy short sleeve dress shirt/tie combo? :confused: It looks like an old man picked out the uniform.


The last scene looks like it was filmed in Appalachia.

It really does. I've hiked part of the AT and we go rafting in the Nantahala River every summer.

oyarde
08-13-2016, 08:58 PM
U sure are knowledgable about American $#@!ty beer for an Injun.

Well , I drank some beers and owned some brewery stocks . As a Great American Patriot I felt I should try all the beers.

oyarde
08-13-2016, 09:00 PM
There are at least two reasons Ft Worth is poisoned ground .One being it is where they buried LBJ.

Danke
08-13-2016, 09:01 PM
Why do pilots wear the goofy short sleeve dress shirt/tie combo? :confused: It looks like an old man picked out the uniform.

If it were up to me, I'd ditch the tie. Hell, I'd be happy with the flight suit we weared in the military.

fr33
08-13-2016, 09:03 PM
That horrible beer is even worse than Budweiser. I know. I enjoyed a case of that canoeing down the Rio Grande through Big Bend National Park.
Nobody to blame but yourself. We in Texas have a huge craft beer market. You shouldn't have waited until you were out in the middle of nowhere to buy the beer. Even in my rural area you can buy great local beers.

oyarde
08-13-2016, 09:06 PM
This is Alabama ? What is the beer tax there ? I was thinking it was high .

RJB
08-13-2016, 09:09 PM
Nobody to blame but yourself. We in Texas have a huge craft beer market. You shouldn't have waited until you were out in the middle of nowhere to buy the beer. Even in my rural area you can buy great local beers.

That was back in the mid 1990s. If I'm back in TX for whatever Godawful reason, I'll shoot you a PM :)

William Tell
08-13-2016, 09:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vu_g5xNS0Y

oyarde
08-13-2016, 09:18 PM
U sure are knowledgable about American $#@!ty beer for an Injun.

You should though , see the Buckhorn Saloon downtown San Antonio , I think think that was once part of the ( 1940) Lone Star collection , but the original collection was started in 1800's .

TheTexan
08-13-2016, 10:13 PM
lone star is a really good craft beer, fuck all yall -rep

Danke
08-13-2016, 10:30 PM
lone star is a really good craft beer, fuck all yall -rep

Great beer, great people when I went there in 1988. Things are slowly changing. Now I'm not sure. I remember passengers could have a cooler and drink beer in the car . And before that even the drivers could. Texas have been pussified. Before you know it, Texans will be squatting when they pee.

fr33
08-13-2016, 10:48 PM
That was back in the mid 1990s.

Well yeah, if you were in Colorado back then you would have bought Coors or Budweiser. Good beer wasn't even an option.

Brian4Liberty
08-13-2016, 10:54 PM
No, they're all good with whatever amount you want to buy of their swill.

And let's name names! Goose Island, Shock Top, Blue Moon... If you think those are "craft", you've been taken by the big boys.

oyarde
08-14-2016, 09:13 AM
lone star is a really good craft beer, $#@! all yall -rep

Well , I would say it is better than many american beers , including some big sellers.

Matt Collins
08-14-2016, 04:09 PM
Further information on the subject:



http://www.cato.org/multimedia/daily-podcast/beer-full-taxes














http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/docs/Beer_map-01.png
SOURCE:
http://taxfoundation.org/blog/how-high-are-beer-taxes-your-state-0









https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPHumGDA7I4




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zc4p9Uwa_s



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1uJWBM68_w




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXcalGrgjM8