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angelatc
08-03-2016, 01:14 PM
(That loss gutted me.)

I have some shocking news to share: An original member of the House Freedom Caucus was defeated last night.


The Washington political class spent $3 million on ads against my dear friend Tim Huelskamp. That amount of outside spending was without precedent in the history of Tim’s district. It paid for attacks on Tim’s character, distortions of his voting record, and false promises from his challenger.


Unfortunately, the smear campaign worked.


We’ve known for a while that D.C. special interests have put a target on every one of our backs. The difference was that, this time, they were explicit about it. According to emails obtained by Politico, the special interests behind the assault on Tim took him out specifically to “send a message” to the House Freedom Caucus.


What’s the message? Do what you’re told. Don’t vote against wasteful spending. Follow the party bosses—or else.


I’m writing you a detailed note this afternoon because it’s important that you understand what the D.C. insiders did to Tim and what they’re trying to do to the House Freedom Caucus.


The story starts in 2011. A new generation of representatives came to Congress. We were united by the emergencies at hand: trillions of dollars of new debt coming from Washington and the government takeover of a large part of our economy through Obamacare. We were excited to work together for all Americans. And we had some successes, including passing a budget for the first time in years and imposing spending caps on the Obama administration.


We started to notice, however, that not everyone was so excited by the newcomers. Some people had become powerful and wealthy under the old system. They had a lot to lose if the system changed, and they were willing to spend lavishly to preserve their privilege. They tried to break us by cutting off our campaign funds. They kicked us off committees. They blocked our legislation.


Tim and I and a few others stood strong. We started to meet together regularly to work on legislation. We campaigned for each other. We felt that if we were going to take on powerful interests in Washington, we’d be stronger working together.


The Establishment tried to make an example of me in 2014. You may remember that fight. Washington interests recruited my opponent and funded his campaign account with millions. They ran the most expensive smear campaign in the country against me—and with your help, we won.


That win begat more wins. My colleagues thought that if I could do it, they could, too. More joined the House Freedom Caucus, which grew to more than three dozen members. We pushed out John Boehner. Congressional candidates from all corners of the country started talking about joining our ranks.


Against the odds, we have won so many battles. But last night taught us that we have not yet won the war.


The Establishment struck back this year. In May, they took out the House Freedom Caucus member who was running for Senate in Indiana. Last week, they took out a House Freedom Caucus-endorsed candidate in Georgia. And last night, for the first time, they took out a House Freedom Caucus member in a re-election.


They’re trying to kill the House Freedom Caucus.


After last night, I can’t deny that they’re coming closer to that goal.


The Establishment’s formula for picking off my principled colleagues is pretty simple. They tap their multi-million dollar network to overwhelm the more principled candidate. Take a look at this chart, which shows how they outspent Tim Huelskamp:


https://ci6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/0jEbaCVmQvXJoK_zgcbvQwi-Jyti5z1vmyb1LtsnmpOffibLR_5rit4XNSjflmE5YideofW1co Q42AxY0ZeTDKphgHIA0HnLjANfpGMIJK1NlPAu8YdOPVELmhM2 CWgsq9rPeOtNbTztPlor0byr-KNxVXUMs8E=s0-d-e1-ft#http://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/amash/mailings/164/attachments/original/image.png?1470246868


They attacked Tim for voting against the farm bill. About 80 percent of the “farm bill” is welfare spending; only 20 percent has anything to do with farming. The bill is used notoriously as a vehicle for wasteful spending, and that’s why Tim voted against it. I did, too.


They attacked Tim for voting against a trillion dollars of new spending. They attacked him for opposing Obama’s corrupt Export-Import Bank—the federal agency that sends billions in taxpayer subsidies to well-connected corporations and foreign countries. They attacked him for refusing to support a tax increase.


Attack. Smear. Lie. Repeat.


Meanwhile, Tim’s opponent received tens of thousands of dollars directly from Washington special interest groups and millions indirectly from shadowy super PACs.


I’m sad to lose a great friend and ally in Congress. There aren’t too many good guys in D.C., so we simply cannot afford to lose even one.


If we are going to be successful as a movement—if we are going to stand up for economic freedom, individual liberty, and the Constitution—we need to guarantee that what happened last night doesn’t happen again.


Our strength is in numbers—not dollars, but people. The American people believe in our principles. They know that powerful interests rig the system against them. They want representatives who fight for them, not for the special interests.


Our strategy is to organize. We can overcome lobbyists’ millions with millions of conversations, door knocks, Facebook shares, and Twitter retweets.


I’ve devoted my life to this. I’m all in. And after last night, I’m more fired up than ever.


Are you in?
Will you stand with me?
Will you find others who will, too?


We start today. If you’re in, please sign this online commitment card. It commits you to fight for our principles in your community no matter what the Washington political class spends against us.
(http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.justinamash.com%2Fassault_o n_house_freedom_caucus%3Fe%3Def88e024dbd071ec70536 23f71d2865e19e9a829%26utm_source%3Damash%26utm_med ium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3D20160803_e%26n%3D1&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFCrh9p3-dmZYYo8qOHXh7vsgsYyw)

Add your name. (http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.justinamash.com%2Fassault_o n_house_freedom_caucus%3Fe%3Def88e024dbd071ec70536 23f71d2865e19e9a829%26utm_source%3Damash%26utm_med ium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3D20160803_e%26n%3D2&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHbB1xcO1Vw8QWBgeFu3qfr7TT0Ng)


If you sign the commitment card and get five of your friends to do the same, we’ll start an online movement that will provide extra strength to my colleagues after last night.


Together, we have the power to turn back the Establishment.

In liberty,
Justin


P.S. Please pass along the online commitment card (http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.justinamash.com%2Fassault_o n_house_freedom_caucus%3Fe%3Def88e024dbd071ec70536 23f71d2865e19e9a829%26utm_source%3Damash%26utm_med ium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3D20160803_e%26n%3D3&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGzr1dbDQxnmkujSWNWKhVGZr20gQ) to five of your friends, family, or coworkers. It takes less than a minute to sign. Washington landed a punch last night. Let’s show them that we won’t back down.

jllundqu
08-03-2016, 01:19 PM
Trump celebrated this loss...

Spikender
08-03-2016, 01:23 PM
Trump celebrated this loss...

They are called the House Freedom Caucus. That would make them a natural enemy.

tsai3904
08-03-2016, 01:44 PM
In 2014, Huelskamp won his primary by only 10%, a small win for an incumbent. That encouraged the establishment to organize and flood the next race with lots of money.

Unfortunately, Mark Sanford won his primary this year by only 11%. I can see Sanford being the next target.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?496683-Mark-Sanford-with-unimpressive-11-win-in-primary

Brian4Liberty
08-03-2016, 02:26 PM
Trump celebrated this loss...

I hadn't even specifically followed Huelskamp this year. Apparently he was a big Cruz supporter, and he continued to go after Trump after Trump had it sewn up.

I know that was a fundraising letter from Amash, but it missed the relevant point.

Huelskamp lost because he was vocally anti-Trump, and was painted as establishment because of that. He made the same gamble as Rand in the POTUS primary, and it cost him. Perhaps the principled stance will help in the long run, if Trump becomes President and is a disaster, but in the short term, it was a bad calculation. It certainly didn't gain him anything with the establishment, as they were happy to take him out, even though he was on their side with regard to Trump.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-EkNBhXLNM

angelatc
08-03-2016, 02:30 PM
I hadn't even specifically followed Huelskamp this year. Apparently he was a big Cruz supporter, and he continued to go after Trump after Trump had it sewn up.

I know that was a fundraising letter from Amash, but it missed the relevant point.

Huelskamp lost because he was vocally anti-Trump, and was painted as establishment because of that. He made the same gamble as Rand in the POTUS primary, and it cost him. Perhaps the principled stance will help in the long run, if Trump becomes President and is a disaster, but in the short term, it was a bad calculation. It certainly didn't gain him anything with the establishment, as they were happy to take him out, even though he was on their side with regard to Trump.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-EkNBhXLNM

It's all so complicated. The anti-Trump establishment takes out an anti-Trump incumbent. In any event, Massie is probably relatively safe while Amash is always a prime target, I think.

Natural Citizen
08-03-2016, 02:32 PM
...Amash is always a prime target, I think.

I think so, too. Maybe sooner than later.

CPUd
08-03-2016, 02:40 PM
Here is Huelskamp on Levin Monday night talking about all the money being dumped into his opponent's campaign:

interview starts at 1:26:40 -> https://audioboom.com/boos/4886672-8-1-16-mark-levin-audio-rewind.mp3?source=rss&stitched=1

Tywysog Cymru
08-03-2016, 04:50 PM
But I thought that Trump's victory in the primaries meant that the establishment is on its last legs! Maybe Trump voters are actually anti-liberty?

Krugminator2
08-03-2016, 05:34 PM
Huelskamp was solid.

For those who still think this bag of shit is a friend of liberty, here was his opinion on losing one of the best liberty Congressmen.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/political-theatre/one-toxic-teds-trump-haters-goes/

LibertyEagle
08-03-2016, 05:45 PM
Trump celebrated this loss...

Yeah. I haven't seen it yet, but heard that Huelskamp went after Trump's throat in a recent interview. Pretty stupid.

Ah, there it is.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?498950-Amash-on-Huelskamp-Loss-quot-Assault-on-House-Freedom-Caucus-quot&p=6279218&viewfull=1#post6279218

Tywysog Cymru
08-03-2016, 05:52 PM
Huelskamp was solid.

For those who still think this bag of $#@! is a friend of liberty, here was his opinion on losing one of the best liberty Congressmen.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/political-theatre/one-toxic-teds-trump-haters-goes/


Establishment/anti-Establishment has been redefined and now it only refers to one's position in regards to the Orange One.

Anyone who is for Trump is anti-establishment even if they were the biggest warmongers during the Bush administration (Jeff Sessions).

LibertyEagle
08-03-2016, 06:04 PM
Anyone who is for Trump is anti-establishment even if they were the biggest warmongers during the Bush administration (Jeff Sessions).

Link please.

William Tell
08-03-2016, 07:07 PM
It's all so complicated. The anti-Trump establishment takes out an anti-Trump incumbent. In any event, Massie is probably relatively safe while Amash is always a prime target, I think.

They threw everything at Amash last cycle and he crushed them. I think Massie is pretty safe in his district, but he doesn't have a ton of money in his campaign account.

LibertyEagle
08-03-2016, 07:16 PM
Massie hasn't done anything to paint him as establishment; he should be just fine.

Tywysog Cymru
08-03-2016, 08:07 PM
Link please.

Jeff Sessions has been touted as some great foe of the establishment in multiple threads.

Brett85
08-03-2016, 08:08 PM
I hadn't even specifically followed Huelskamp this year. Apparently he was a big Cruz supporter, and he continued to go after Trump after Trump had it sewn up.

I know that was a fundraising letter from Amash, but it missed the relevant point.

Huelskamp lost because he was vocally anti-Trump, and was painted as establishment because of that. He made the same gamble as Rand in the POTUS primary, and it cost him. Perhaps the principled stance will help in the long run, if Trump becomes President and is a disaster, but in the short term, it was a bad calculation. It certainly didn't gain him anything with the establishment, as they were happy to take him out, even though he was on their side with regard to Trump.

I live in Kansas, and I can tell you that Huelskamp's loss had very little to do with his refusing to support Trump, or perhaps nothing to do with it. He lost primarily because Sam Brownback is extremely unpopular here. He has like a 18% approval rating. Conservatives across the state got crushed by "moderate Republicans" last night.

Brett85
08-03-2016, 08:11 PM
Massie hasn't done anything to paint him as establishment; he should be just fine.

That's not why Huelskamp lost. His opponent campaigned as a more moderate establishment Republican. He lost because of all of the money that was spent against him as well as Governor Brownback's extreme unpopularity in the state.

William Tell
08-03-2016, 08:19 PM
I hadn't even specifically followed Huelskamp this year. Apparently he was a big Cruz supporter, and he continued to go after Trump after Trump had it sewn up.

I know that was a fundraising letter from Amash, but it missed the relevant point.

Huelskamp lost because he was vocally anti-Trump, and was painted as establishment because of that. He made the same gamble as Rand in the POTUS primary, and it cost him. Perhaps the principled stance will help in the long run, if Trump becomes President and is a disaster, but in the short term, it was a bad calculation. It certainly didn't gain him anything with the establishment, as they were happy to take him out, even though he was on their side with regard to Trump.


You don't understand why he lost at all. Renee Ellmers lost by a far larger margin and Trump was doing robocalls on her behalf. Supporting or opposing Trump has almost no effect on races. Huelskamp lost because the establishment spent millions against him. We have seen this kind of thing happen in other races before.

Brian4Liberty
08-03-2016, 09:01 PM
I live in Kansas, and I can tell you that Huelskamp's loss had very little to do with his refusing to support Trump, or perhaps nothing to do with it. He lost primarily because Sam Brownback is extremely unpopular here. He has like a 18% approval rating. Conservatives across the state got crushed by "moderate Republicans" last night.

What did Trump and Cruz get in Huelskamp's District? Is Huelskamp a Brownback supporter?

Brian4Liberty
08-03-2016, 09:05 PM
Jeff Sessions has been touted as some great foe of the establishment in multiple threads.

Sessions has been the biggest critic of immigration in Congress for quite some time. That's put him directly at odds with the GOP/Dem establishment, Chamber of Commerce, various leftist lobby groups, neoconservatives and beltway libertarians (Kochs).

William Tell
08-03-2016, 09:17 PM
What did Trump and Cruz get in Huelskamp's District?

Dunno. But statewide:




T. Cruz (http://www.politico.com/2016-election/candidate-overview/tedcruz)

48.2%
35,207
24


D. Trump (http://www.politico.com/2016-election/candidate-overview/donaldtrump)
23.3%
17,062
9


M. Rubio (http://www.politico.com/2016-election/candidate-overview/marcorubio)
16.7%
12,189
6


J. Kasich (http://www.politico.com/2016-election/candidate-overview/johnkasich)
10.7%
7,795
1


B. Carson (http://www.politico.com/2016-election/candidate-overview/bencarson)
0.7%
511



Uncommitted
0.3%
242



http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president

angelatc
08-03-2016, 09:24 PM
What did Trump and Cruz get in Huelskamp's District? Is Huelskamp a Brownback supporter?

I was just reading up on it - the article referred to him as a Brownback ally. Brownback worked to oust some moderate GOP members from the House in order to get his tax cuts through. Guess this was the revenge of the establishment.

CPUd
08-03-2016, 09:47 PM
Huelskamp was kicked off committees in Congress for standing up to the lobbyists and the House members who represent their interests. The lobbyists bought a replacement who they know will play ball, including working with Hillary.

angelatc
08-03-2016, 09:51 PM
Huelskamp was kicked off committees in Congress for standing up to the lobbyists and the House members who represent their interests. The lobbyists bought a replacement who they know will play ball, including working with Hillary.

Yeah I get that. But it's the fact that the good people in the Heartland voted to make it so that troubles me.

RandallFan
08-03-2016, 09:53 PM
Kobach is "establishment" if you want border contracts, prison contracts & going along with big evil ALEC.

A congressman can't go against handouts to Ag at this point in time when they waste money on things way more immoral than too much ag production.

People wonder why Rubio or whoever; has a higher conservative rating than Vitter, Sessions or Steve King; but Rubio is not considered conservative.

Vitter, Sessions & King steal pennies for their state Ag friends in the scheme of things.

http://www.heritageactionscorecard.com/members



IA


4
Rep. Steve King
R
76%





IA


1
Rep. Rod Blum
R
75%








LA



Sen. David Vitter(retired because of his term limit principles)

R
71%





SC


2

Rep. Joe Wilson
R
68%



WY


1

Rep. Cynthia Lummis

R
78%



AL



Sen. Jeff Sessions
R
80%

Origanalist
08-03-2016, 10:34 PM
Yeah I get that. But it's the fact that the good people in the Heartland voted to make it so that troubles me.

Maybe they aren't as good as you give them credit for. It's amazing what big money can do.

[edit, I should have read through the thread, point already made]

Brian4Liberty
08-04-2016, 10:12 AM
Yeah I get that. But it's the fact that the good people in the Heartland voted to make it so that troubles me.

It is troubling. Chalk it up to extreme lack of knowledge on the part of the voters, due to the stranglehold of the mainstream media.

angelatc
08-04-2016, 10:41 AM
It is troubling. Chalk it up to extreme lack of knowledge on the part of the voters, due to the stranglehold of the mainstream media.

I think a lot of it is blowback from Brownack's tax plans. It seems to be working - they're trending in the right direction, but voters are short sighted, I guess. He's moving them away from production taxes to consumption taxes and the liberals on both sides of the aisle hate it with a passion.

ETA: And wheat prices are down. Voting against farm subsidies in a down market....everybody feels entitled to a piece of the great American debt pie, it appears.

Smitty
08-04-2016, 10:48 AM
I can't say that I'm familiar with Huelskamp, but Republicans in Congress are trying to land on the correct side of the Trump phenomenon. So far, it hasn't been a good idea to bet against Trump.

Amash is setting himself up to be primaried if he picks the wrong side. He's from Michigan. There's a lot of people in Michigan who believe that Trump is the path back to dependable employment.

Besides, at this point the alternative is Hillary,..or "Bush 45" as I like to refer to her.

angelatc
08-04-2016, 11:04 AM
I can't say that I'm familiar with Huelskamp, but Republicans in Congress are trying to land on the correct side of the Trump phenomenon. So far, it hasn't been a good idea to bet against Trump.

Amash is setting himself up to be primaried if he picks the wrong side. He's from Michigan. There's a lot of people in Michigan who believe that Trump is the path back to dependable employment.

Besides, at this point the alternative is Hillary,..or "Bush 45" as I like to refer to her.

They tried really hard to primary him last time. This time, they moved to greener pastures. But anybody in the House Freedom Caucus gets my support these days.

Tywysog Cymru
08-04-2016, 03:39 PM
Sessions has been the biggest critic of immigration in Congress for quite some time. That's put him directly at odds with the GOP/Dem establishment, Chamber of Commerce, various leftist lobby groups, neoconservatives and beltway libertarians (Kochs).

But he agrees with the establishment on surveillance and the warfare state.

RandallFan
08-04-2016, 06:44 PM
If they get someone who is not open borders it will tougher.

They suicide bombed fellow Michigan Arab Spencer Abraham in 2000;with some nasty immigration ads.

Amash is okay of immigration without some of the snark of Rand Paul.

zep tepi
08-04-2016, 10:20 PM
Unfortunately, the Huelskamp loss wasn't the only disastrous one for liberty in Kansas. Sedgwick County (which includes Wichita) has had a 3-2 libertarian-minded majority on the County Commission, but unfortunately, Karl Peterjohn handily lost re-election to an establishment-type. They came close to ousting Richard Ranzau during the last cycle, and he'll definitely be a huge target again. It's very troubling for those of us fighting on the local level.

CPUd
08-05-2016, 03:38 AM
Huelskamp was back on Levin yesterday. He says the last minute blitz against him was funded by the Ricketts, some Wall St. hedge fund managers possibly tied to Eric Cantor, and the DC Chamber of Commerce.

interview starts at 1:24:25 --> https://audioboom.com/boos/4900190-8-4-16-mark-levin-audio-rewind.mp3?source=rss&stitched=1

Peace&Freedom
08-05-2016, 06:51 AM
Unfortunately, the Huelskamp loss wasn't the only disastrous one for liberty in Kansas. Sedgwick County (which includes Wichita) has had a 3-2 libertarian-minded majority on the County Commission, but unfortunately, Karl Peterjohn handily lost re-election to an establishment-type. They came close to ousting Richard Ranzau during the last cycle, and he'll definitely be a huge target again. It's very troubling for those of us fighting on the local level.

Winning races in districts that are competitive (both in the election, and in the primary) leads to this situation. "We can win it, but can we keep it?" becomes an ongoing issue. If one gets in based on winning a primary in a vacated seat scenario, you may be able to more easily survive future primary challenges because it is usually not easy to topple the incumbent in non-competitive districts. Most primary voters, in those cases, robotically vote for the incumbent unless there is a big controversy.

LibertyEagle
08-05-2016, 08:25 AM
Unfortunately, the Huelskamp loss wasn't the only disastrous one for liberty in Kansas. Sedgwick County (which includes Wichita) has had a 3-2 libertarian-minded majority on the County Commission, but unfortunately, Karl Peterjohn handily lost re-election to an establishment-type. They came close to ousting Richard Ranzau during the last cycle, and he'll definitely be a huge target again. It's very troubling for those of us fighting on the local level.

What does that mean anymore? After Gary Johnson's open borders and TTP-loving establishment candidacy, the "libertarian" moniker has lost its meaning.

Brett85
08-08-2016, 08:51 PM
What did Trump and Cruz get in Huelskamp's District? Is Huelskamp a Brownback supporter?

Cruz crushed Trump in Kansas.

Brett85
08-08-2016, 08:57 PM
Yeah I get that. But it's the fact that the good people in the Heartland voted to make it so that troubles me.

Yeah, it was just a combination of things. Millions of dollars being spent against Huelskamp, Huelskamp voting against the farm bill when the farm economy is in terrible shape, Brownback being so unpopular, Huelskamp being labeled a "career politician" in ads and Marshall labeling himself as "the outsider," etc.

Mikezelot
08-17-2016, 03:04 AM
What does that mean anymore? After Gary Johnson's open borders and TTP-loving establishment candidacy, the "libertarian" moniker has lost its meaning.

What does a county commissioner have to do with TTP? There are a lot of libertarian positions on the local level that should be considered before their thoughts on TTP. I just ran for county commissioner in my county on a platform that was very libertarian with a plan to remove green energy regulation, remove hotel taxes, and privatize the local event center. (No mention of TTP there. We had a ton of support with a 9 to 1 yard signs compared to my opponent, reached out to over a thousand voters but never ever heard one single mention of TTP.

Mr.NoSmile
08-18-2016, 07:32 AM
Isn't that how it works? One side strikes, the other side strikes back, and so on in an endless cycle? You knew it was bound to happen. Like the incumbents that so many of us want gone after being there forever, it was inevitable that someone we liked or somewhat backed would go down.