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Zippyjuan
07-22-2016, 06:08 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/07/22/russian-warplanes-reportedly-bombed-us-base-in-syria.html


Russian warplanes reportedly bombed a secret military base in Syria used by elite American and British forces last month.

The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday that the Russian strike on the CIA-linked site was part of a campaign by Russia to pressure the White House to agree to closer cooperation in the Syrian skies, U.S. military and intelligence officials said.

Despite the fact that some forces could have been killed and the bombing dampened relations between Russia and the Pentagon and CIA, the White House and State Department still persued a compromise.

The U.S. and Russia agreed to a pact last week to target airstrikes against the Al Qaeda affiliate in the region – Nusra Front – despite objections from the Pentagon and CIA. Russia agreed to stop airstrikes on U.S.-backed rebels and restrain the Syrian air campaign. The two sides are still talking about designations where Russia would need U.S. approval to conduct an airstrike.

According to The Wall Street Journal, deal backers in the White House and State Department believe U.S. airstrikes on the Nusra Front in areas that were previously occupied by Russian forces would provide protection for allies in Syria.

However, officials in the Pentagon and CIA contend that Washington bowed to Moscow in the deal and believe that the U.S. needs to confront Russia.

The Russian strike on the base occurred on June 16. The U.S. and British forces help maintain what is described as a buffer zone in Jordan. Forces go into Syria to help protect Jordan from Islamic State, U.S. officials told The Journal. Forces didn’t spend the night, due to security reasons.

Nearly a day before the strike, 20 of 24 British special forces pulled out of the base. The U.S. tracked a Russian plane heading toward the base. The warplane dropped a cluster bomb, according to U.S. and rebel officials.

After the first strike, U.S. central command air operations center in Qatar called Russia’s air campaign headquarters in Latakia, Syria to tell them that the base shouldn’t be attacked.

However, Russian forces struck again nearly 90 minutes after the call was made. Russian pilots didn’t respond to U.S. calls using frequencies the two sides had previously agreed to use in case of an emergency.

At least four rebels were killed in strikes.

Russian officials initially told the Pentagon that the military thought it was an Islamic State facility, but U.S. officials rejected the notion because of what they described as a unique way the base was fortified, The Journal reported.

Russians then said that the Jordanians had given them the go-ahead to strike the base, but the U.S. double-checked and said no such authorization was given. Later, Russia told the U.S. that their headquarters wasn’t in position to call off the strike because the U.S. didn’t provide them with the proper coordinates of the base.

U.S. officials said that the Pentagon had never asked the Russians to steer clear of that area because it wasn’t close to the front lines and Russian aircraft didn’t operate in that part of Syria anyway.

The strike has increased the distrust between U.S. and American forces in Syria. According to the Wall Street Journal, the U.S. didn’t want to give Russia any more information than they had to.

Since the strike, the U.S. has told Russia to steer clear of the Jordanian border.

twomp
07-22-2016, 10:59 PM
What is a U.S. base doing in Syria?

RonPaulGeorge&Ringo
07-22-2016, 11:03 PM
Sounds like Putin is bombing ISIS!

juleswin
07-22-2016, 11:17 PM
Please tell me nobody made it out alive.

AuH20
07-22-2016, 11:32 PM
Wow. I'm surprised the Americans admitted to even having a base.

pcosmar
07-22-2016, 11:55 PM
What is a U.S. base doing in Syria?

was my first thought

goldenequity
07-23-2016, 12:24 AM
The Jordanian border is a KNOWN area for gun running.
The smuggling route into Syria with armament and ammunition
is because of the rugged terrain and the porous border
and has been used to funnel support for Nusra, FSA and ISIS.
Had read articles, Have seen maps more than a year ago
reporting and showing locations and routes of CIA involvement there.

twomp
07-23-2016, 12:25 AM
There's the government propaganda that Zippy usually peddles and then there's this.


Russia’s June Attack on South Syria Rebel Base Was a Day After UK Troops Left

A June airstrike by Russian warplanes against a rebel base near al-Tanf in southern Syria came within just 24 hours of hitting British special forces deployed in the country, US officials are now claiming. The base is said to have belonged to the New Syrian Army, a relatively minor rebel faction that receives US and British backing and operates out of Jordan.

The Pentagon has been harping on about this incident for over a month now, claiming a “dramatic showdown” with Russian jets in the skies over the base, which ended when the US planes left to refuel, and Russia bombed the base, killing four rebels.

The claim now is that 20 British SAS fighters were at the base the previous day, and that the attack amounted to Russian “bullying” to try to get the West to cooperate more. Russia insists that they have no idea who is or isn’t a US ally at any given time, and suggested the US provide an up-to-date map of who they’re supporting at any given time so they don’t bomb those people.

The area around Tanf also has active Nusra and ISIS forces, so it is unsurprising that Russia would be keen to target a significant rebel base there, particularly since Nusra is almost always embedded in any given rebel base, even the nominally “moderate” ones.

While the British government hasn’t discussed their presence in Syria, the New Syrian Army has publicized the fact that British forces “frequently” enter Syria from neighboring Jordan to coordinate with them. The New Syrian Army still controls the Tanf crossing into Iraq, but a recent offensive against the more valuable al-Bukamal crossing ended in the group being soundly defeated by ISIS, to the point there were doubts if they’d ever fully recover.

http://news.antiwar.com/2016/07/22/russias-june-attack-on-south-syria-rebel-base-was-a-day-after-uk-troops-left/

Zippy's title: Russian warplanes reportedly bombed US base in Syria
Antiwar's title: Russia’s June Attack on South Syria Rebel Base Was a Day After UK Troops Left

We report. You decide.

puppetmaster
07-23-2016, 01:00 AM
Lol


The strike has increased the distrust between U.S. and American forces in Syria.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
07-23-2016, 01:03 AM
There's the government propaganda that Zippy usually peddles and then there's this.






Yep, that's why I voted the thread terrible. Terrible for shilling. He also gets a neg rep.

TheTexan
07-23-2016, 01:26 AM
And we didn't declare war on them????

Oh well. At least Trump will make our military Great again.

Have a closet full of this stuff, just collecting dust currently

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NorthCarolinaLiberty
07-23-2016, 03:30 AM
And we didn't declare war on them????

Oh well. At least Trump will make our military Great again.

Have a closet full of this stuff, just collecting dust currently

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LOL. Funny shirt. The Texan comes thru with yet another good laugh. Good for health and the soul. +rep

devil21
07-23-2016, 09:18 AM
Lol


The strike has increased the distrust between U.S. and American forces in Syria.

Leave it to Fox to release something with that dumb ass line in it and various typos. I guess they don't have any editors at Fox. I make it a habit to ignore most news items with typos. It shows some random biased mouthpiece whipped something up and posted it without oversight.

nobody's_hero
07-23-2016, 10:35 AM
What is a U.S. base doing in Syria?

Training people who will be our enemies within 2 decades.

chudrockz
07-23-2016, 10:44 AM
Training people who will be our enemies within 2 decades.

Two decades... or two months! :p

Ender
07-23-2016, 11:05 AM
What is a U.S. base doing in Syria?

'Zactly.

Jamesiv1
07-23-2016, 11:07 AM
I predicted this back in '08

MelissaWV
07-23-2016, 11:08 AM
That's no moon...

Working Poor
07-23-2016, 12:35 PM
Does this mean Putin has bigger ballz than Obama?

Anti Federalist
07-23-2016, 01:36 PM
Russia insists that they have no idea who is or isn’t a US ally at any given time, and suggested the US provide an up-to-date map of who they’re supporting at any given time

Yah, no fucking shit there, Ivan.

I'd sure as hell like to see that myself.