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LibertyEagle
07-20-2016, 11:55 AM
CLEVELAND, Ohio–Eleven refugees have been diagnosed with active tuberculosis in Summit County, Ohio, over the past six years, Dr. Margo Erme, medical director of the Summit County Public Health Department tells Breitbart News.



http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/19/tuberculosis-tb-akron-ohio-area/

puppetmaster
07-20-2016, 11:57 AM
We owe them..........lol

donnay
07-20-2016, 11:59 AM
Just in time for the winter epidemic.

Zippyjuan
07-20-2016, 12:32 PM
Eleven cases in the last six years? Less than two cases a year. Panic! (over 500,000 population). Your article also counts 26 cases which were NOT immigrants (more than twice as many).

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/oh-summit/possible-case-of-tuberculosis-within-akrons-north-high-school-community


The health department reports that TB "is spread through the air by close prolonged contact when a person coughs, speaks, laughs, or sings."

It cannot, however, be spread by casual contact like passing someone in a hallway.

Authorities say there is minimal risk to Summit County residents that the disease has spread.

Most cases of TB are curable with the right medical treatment.

CaptUSA
07-20-2016, 12:37 PM
In the last six years? Less than two cases a year. Panic! (over 500,000 population).

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/oh-summit/possible-case-of-tuberculosis-within-akrons-north-high-school-community

Damn, Zippy... Stick to economics. You make too much sense here.

juleswin
07-20-2016, 12:54 PM
In the last six years? Less than two cases a year. Panic! (over 500,000 population).

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/oh-summit/possible-case-of-tuberculosis-within-akrons-north-high-school-community

Gonna be like Zippy and play the devil's advocated. Wish me luck

Well, it is 11 cases out of the refugee population and not the whole Akron, Ohio population. So instead of 500k population, we could be talking about 11 out of 10k.

Also, yes one is likely not going to contract TB from casual contact but what if one of those refugees living in cramped apts send their TB infected child to the daycare your children are going to? then there is a chance of your child will contract the disease. Also saying treatment is available is not an argument, there is a treatment for syphilis but I am sure you are not Ok with being infected with one because of mistakes done by our govt.

Also, treatment is pretty expensive which means that the tax payers end up paying for their treatments which is not good.

Dr.3D
07-20-2016, 01:04 PM
Does this mean TB testing will be necessary at the schools again? I remember those tests as a child and they were not fun.

LibertyEagle
07-20-2016, 01:07 PM
Preliminary TB statistics for the United States for 2015

The preliminary TB statistics for 2015 show a total of 9,563 TB cases reported, compared with a total of 9,421 for 2014. Among the 9,563 TB cases reported, 3,201 (33.5%) occurred among U.S. born persons, corresponding to an annual TB incidence of 1.2 per 100,000 persons. The 6,335 TB cases among foreign born persons in the United States (66.2% of the total U.S. cases) corresponded to an annual incidence of 15.1 per 100,000 persons. Overall national TB incidence remained approximately 3.0 cases per 100,000 persons during 2013 – 2015.

After 2 decades of declining incidence, progress towards TB elimination in the United States appears to have stalled.1


Foreign born and U.S. born people

Foreign born people continued to be disproportionately affected. In 2014, 66% of TB cases occurred in foreign born people. The top five countries of origin of foreign born persons with TB were Mexico, the Philippines, India, Vietnam and China.

- See more at: http://www.tbfacts.org/tb-statistics-united-states/#sthash.qt3PyzF3.dpuf

TheCount
07-20-2016, 01:09 PM
Did you have to make a new thread about this because you got slapped down so hard in the last one about the exact same thing?

LibertyEagle
07-20-2016, 01:10 PM
Did you have to make a new thread about this because you got slapped down so hard in the last one?

I'm not aware of being slapped down, but then again, I don't live on this site. Perhaps you could go bump the thread. Other than that, I would appreciate you not attempting to take my thread off-topic. Thanks.

juleswin
07-20-2016, 01:11 PM
Does this mean TB testing will be necessary at the schools again? I remember those tests as a child and they were not fun.

I don't think so, we have better drugs and testing methods for TB and the rates of it are actually going down in spit of a few newsworthy cases. The rates of TB are going down not up and unless something catastrophic happens, nobody will be bringing back TB tests in schools.

http://www.cdc.gov/tb/statistics/tbcases.htm

Dr.3D
07-20-2016, 01:12 PM
- See more at: http://www.tbfacts.org/tb-statistics-united-states/#sthash.qt3PyzF3.dpuf
Just wait till it's found they also can carry Leprosy. I remember a fellow who was visiting the U.S. from Mexico who had it.

LibertyEagle
07-20-2016, 01:15 PM
Just wait till it's found they also can carry Leprosy. I remember a fellow who was visiting the U.S. from Mexico who had it.

The more the merrier. lol.

I remember a time when someone's health was checked before they were allowed to move here. In addition to showing they would not be a financial drain in other ways. But, few seem to give a rat's ... anymore.

Sometimes, it's hard to even care anymore. The people have become so dumbed down that it's difficult to have hope.

juleswin
07-20-2016, 01:20 PM
The more the merrier. lol.

I remember a time when someone's health was checked before they were allowed to move here. In addition to showing they would not be a financial drain in other ways. But, few seem to give a rat's ... anymore.

Yea, I remember the battery of tests people were going through at Ellis Island before they stepped off the boat, yea that was so much better than what we have now. People still go through a battery of modern medical tests before coming to the US even as refugees. Yes, sometimes something is missed or disease was contracted just before the tests were done but everybody coming to the US is tested. Especially if they are coming from non western EU countries, Australia or Japan, you will get all the tests done on you.

http://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/guidelines/refugee-guidelines.html

LibertyEagle
07-20-2016, 01:21 PM
Yea, I remember the battery of tests people were going through at Ellis Island before they stepped off the boat, yea that was so much better than what we have now. People still go through a battery of modern medical tests before coming to the US even as refugees. Yes, sometimes something is missed or disease was contracted just before the tests were done but everybody coming to the US is tested. Especially if they are coming from non western EU countries, Australia or Japan, you will get all the tests done on you.

http://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/guidelines/refugee-guidelines.html

What about those that cross the borders illegally?

Dr.3D
07-20-2016, 01:23 PM
What about those that cross the borders illegally?
I seem to remember, they just secretly ship them out to various parts of the U.S. without doing all that testing.

Danke
07-20-2016, 01:24 PM
http://www.wnd.com/files/2014/07/bestia-beast-train-illegal-alien-children-600-2.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sjSHazjrWg

Danke
07-20-2016, 01:27 PM
Infectious disease in flood of undocumented immigrants 'not being taken seriously'

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/045794_border_control_infectious_disease_swine_flu .html#ixzz4EykOLmtt

juleswin
07-20-2016, 01:30 PM
What about those that cross the borders illegally?

But that has always been the case, people who illegally cross borders are never tested for anything. I don't think its an ideal situation and I agree with you that it is a problem.

Zippyjuan
07-20-2016, 01:36 PM
What about those that cross the borders illegally?

Mexicans and Central/ South Americans have higher vaccination rates than US citizens do. You are less likely to get a disease from one of them.

http://time.com/3694896/more-than-100-countries-have-a-higher-measles-immunization-rate-than-the-u-s/


More Than 100 Countries Have a Higher Measles Immunization Rate Than the U.S.

Babies in desperately impoverished Libya and Zimbabwe, and in many other nations, are vaccinated more effectively, the WHO says


Measles immunization coverage for 1-year-olds in the U.S. may be at a reasonable-sounding 91%, but there are still more than 100 countries that are more successful at vaccinating their kids against the virus. They include Bangladesh, Russia, Iran and Libya, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).

America’s figure of 91% puts it on a par with Angola. To be sure, that’s enormous coverage compared with the Central African Republic (25%) or Equatorial Guinea (42%), but any decline in immunization will leave the country vulnerable as the current measles outbreaks are showing.

The WHO recommends every child be vaccinated against measles with at least one dose before their first birthday.

Countries more successful at immunizing their 1-year-olds than the U.S. include Brazil, Uruguay, Canada, Algeria, Zimbabwe, Egypt, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Kazakhstan, Kenya and nearly all European countries.

From 2012 to 2013 immunization rates in the U.S. saw a slight decline of 1%, the Washington Post reports. The WHO says there are several reasons why the U.S. is being left behind, including complacency and the antivaccine debate.

Dr.3D
07-20-2016, 01:41 PM
Mexicans and Central/ South Americans have higher vaccination rates than US citizens do. You are less likely to get a disease from one of them.

http://time.com/3694896/more-than-100-countries-have-a-higher-measles-immunization-rate-than-the-u-s/

That just shows, if disease is brought to the U.S. it's more likely it will spread, due to all the unvaccinated people who do live here.

Zippyjuan
07-20-2016, 01:44 PM
Or unvaccinated Americans travelling who bring it back.

RestorationOfLiberty
07-22-2016, 04:36 AM
Well just more a reason this program will be ended as it is a burden and a threat.

LibertyEagle
07-22-2016, 01:18 PM
Mexicans and Central/ South Americans have higher vaccination rates than US citizens do. You are less likely to get a disease from one of them.
Complete and utter bullshit. Did you forget all those diseased illegal alien children that Beck and Cruz handed out teddy bears to at the border? You remember, when the nurses and doctors who went there to treat them were told to not talk about it, but some did. Yeah, well, I do. The same kids that were bused by Obama's administration all over our country.

Zippyjuan
07-22-2016, 05:41 PM
Complete and utter bull$#@!. Did you forget all those diseased illegal alien children that Beck and Cruz handed out teddy bears to at the border? You remember, when the nurses and doctors who went there to treat them were told to not talk about it, but some did. Yeah, well, I do. The same kids that were bused by Obama's administration all over our country.

http://www.scpr.org/news/2014/07/22/45496/the-unaccompanied-immigrant-minors-have-health-iss/


The unaccompanied immigrant minors have health issues — but not the ones you'd think

Close to 60,000 children have crossed illegally into the U.S. since last October. They've sparked a crisis. But is it a humanitarian crisis or a public health one?

The children carry "swine flu, dengue fever, Ebola virus, and tuberculosis" and can spread the disease to the U.S., wrote Rep. Phil Gringrey (R-Ga.), a retired obstetrician-gynecologist, in a July 7 letter to the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention.

Gingrey's concerns have been widely circulated as part of a public campaign by folks who share his view that the kids should be sent back. And some of the points he's raised have been widely rebuffed. The current Ebola outbreak has been confined to Africa, as have past outbreaks. And neither dengue nor the "kissing bug" disease known as Chagas, which was brought up by others, spread from human to human. Transmission involves bugs and dogs.

But some health issues in this contentious debate require closer examination. There have, for example, been a handful of reported cases of TB among the children. And concerns that the children may not have been vaccinated – or may harbor scabies and lice – aren't as absurd as the Ebola claims.

A TB epidemic is perhaps one of the biggest concerns, since the U.S. doesn't vaccinate against the disease. The fear of a fatal respiratory disease that attacks the lungs and can spread through the air is understandable.

But the facts on the ground do not back up such worries. All children who arrive at a border station are screened for TB with skin tests and chest x-rays; those infected are immediately isolated and treated. So far this year, only three TB cases among unaccompanied children have been reported by federal officials to the Texas Department of State Health Services, says spokeswoman Carrie Williams. And only one case in Arizona, according to a report by Pima County Health Director, Francisco Garcia.

Such low numbers are not cause for alarm, given that Arizona already sees about 200 cases of TB a year, and Texas sees nearly 1,300.

What about the possibility that the children could spread measles and mumps? Gingrey wrote that many children come from countries that lack basic vaccinations, which would pose a risk to unvaccinated Americans.

The general public may well believe that vaccines are hard to come by in low- and middle-income countries, but that's not always the case.

"The primary care system in developing countries is more effective than in the U.S. — better than people think," says Irwin Redlener, a pediatrician at Columbia University and cofounder of the Children's Health Fund, which provides health care to the disadvantaged.

Indeed, in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador, where roughly 80 percent of the children have come from, immunization for measles has 93 percent coverage, according to the World Health Organization.

To be on the safe side, all children are vaccinated during their short stay at processing facilities in Texas and Arizona. That happens at least three days before they're sent to different shelters around the country, says Kenneth Wolfe, a spokesman for the Department of Health and Human Services, in an email.

"Like any shelter system, when you have a group of people or children living [together], there's always theoretical risk of spreading diseases," says pediatrician Alan Shapiro, who cofounded an immigrant youth clinic in New York, called Terra Firma. But those risks, he adds, usually remains within the shelter and won't spread to the community as long as good primary care is provided.

Since October, Shapiro's clinic has provided physical and mental health care to nearly 50 unaccompanied children now living with a family or sponsor. He says there's no need to worry about a spread of contagious diseases. "The children that I see for the most part have a good experience in the shelter," he says. "The facilities have been more than adequate and they are seen by medical personnel and getting vaccines."

Some kids have even brought immunization records from their home countries, he says. At the processing centers, vaccinations are updated: everything from measles, mumps and rubella to tetanus, whooping cough and polio.

As a cautionary measure, all detainees are evaluated right at the border to stop any potential disease from spreading as early as possible.

They're screened at least once – first by a member of the border patrol and then by physicians, if necessary — for signs of any disease. This includes rash, fever, persistent coughing, vomiting and diarrhea, says Jessica Maxwell, a spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security, which works with border patrols.

The incidence of infectious diseases is very low, she says. The more common issues are related to traveling: dehydration, heat exhaustion, foot and ankle injuries, lice and scabies, which are treatable. Children who have medical problems may be transferred to a hospital for treatment.

Aside from the TB cases, there have been three flu cases and a few gastrointestinal and respiratory issues at the McAllen Processing Center in Texas, says Williams. Of the 4,000 unaccompanied minors processed in Nogales Processing Center in Arizona, there were two flu cases and two chicken pox cases, reports Garcia, who noted that the risk of spread beyond the shelters is low.

That's not to say there are no health issues among the kids; it's just that none pose a threat to the public.

The centers haven't been perfect. Texas health officials who visited the McAllen facility two months ago reported overcrowding as well as a lack of full medical scans and hand-washing stations. But Williams says better care is now being provided, partly because fewer immigrants are arriving.

Meanwhile, the "fear mongering," as Shapiro calls it, takes attention away from the bigger issue at hand: mental health.

"These are children who are coming over to escape the violence that absolutely pervades the community [back home]," he says. During their journey they are at risk for abuse by Mexican gangs. In the U.S., they must adjust to a new environment and unfamiliar faces.

"There's such incredible amount of change that these children have to go through during a relatively short period of time," he says. "The amount of trauma or stress cannot be understated."