Riots in Minnesota

[Danke]

Shut down down I-94
The protest of the shooting death of Philando Castile brought out police in riot gear

http://www.startribune.com/marchers-block-i-94-to-westbound-traffic/386158771/#1

Marchers protesting the Wednesday night shooting death of Philando Castile by police caused an hourslong shutdown of part of Interstate 94 west of downtown St. Paul, starting just before nightfall Saturday, with dozens of police officers decked out in riot gear and using smoke bombs, and eventually tear gas and pepper spray, to disperse the crowd.

Around 11:15 p.m., police began arresting people one by one, escorting them to a law enforcement bus, but scores of protesters stayed at the scene. As police advanced, marchers retreated up the hill and left the freeway. A long line of officers stood in a blockade to keep protesters off the roadway.

"Make some noise, loud enough for the people on the paddy wagon to hear us," demonstrators yelled from the hillside.

As the protest began to disperse shortly after midnight Sunday, several hundred people began to march "in triumph" back to the governor's residence, where demonstrators have kept a constant presence since shortly after Castile's death.

Three officers were reportedly injured after being hit by glass bottles or fireworks thrown by protesters, and demonstrators on an overpass threw objects at officers and dumped liquid on them, according to the St. Paul Police Department Twitter feed. Police ordered people off the overpass and warned that they risked arrest.

Police confirmed that I-94 remained closed from Hwy. 280 to the downtown St. Paul exits hours after the disruption began. As early as 7 p.m., officers had started diverting traffic off I-94 at Lexington Avenue; later, as all cars were forced to file off the freeway, logjams began to form. The protest also spread eastward to Dale Street.


Smoke bombs from St. Paul police failed to disperse protesters Saturday night who had shut down portions of Interstate 94 in St. Paul.

Smoke bombs from St. Paul police failed to disperse protesters Saturday night who had shut down portions of Interstate 94 in St. Paul.
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In the heat of the protest, as many as 300 people were spread across both the eastbound and westbound lanes of the major traffic artery connecting Minneapolis and St. Paul near the Lexington exits. Many sat down on the asphalt lanes while others stood, the air filled with yelling and chanting. Around 10:45 p.m., the crowd broke out in a chorus of Prince's "Purple Rain," a familiar Minneapolis anthem. Protesters had moved a small pickup onto the highway and were broadcasting with sound *equipment.

Some onlookers climbed over the freeway fence to join the blockade, with the crowd swelling as people blocked the freeway lanes in both directions.

Around 10 p.m., officers had issued the 16th order to vacate the interstate, and protesters were not budging.

Officers set off smoke bombs to disperse the protesters. About 100 feet away from the crowd, police cars with lights flashing were lined up in force, with officers addressing the marchers over loudspeakers and ordering them to "leave now" or face arrests.

At one point, two dozen officers in riot gear marched on the crowd, a paddy wagon following behind.

No arrests were reported by about 10 p.m., said St. Paul police spokesman Steve Linders, but by 11:45 police were taking people into custody.

Marchers, some of whom had earlier demonstrated at the governor's residence on Summit Avenue in St. Paul, were beating drums and chanting slogans, including "Black lives matter." One protester's sign read: "We are not target practice."

About 9 p.m. on Twitter, Black Lives Matter Minneapolis posted: "We shut down 94 for Philando. We are gonna need bail money. Please make a gift now."

A throng of onlookers gathered on a pedestrian bridge at Grotto Street — the closest overlook to the protest — watching the disruption.

The protest quickly grew into the day's biggest and most disruptive demonstration in the Twin Cities, following a peaceful daylong protest at the governor's residence◄ and a separate rally at Loring Park that spilled into the streets of downtown Minneapolis, where protesters briefly stopped traffic at 9th and Hennepin, blocked an entrance at the Basilica Block Party and marched past Target Center.

Castile, a 32-year-old school cafeteria worker from St. Paul, was fatally shot by a police officer Wednesday night during a traffic stop in Falcon Heights. The aftermath, as he lay dying in the driver's seat, was live-streamed on Facebook by his girlfriend sitting alongside him while her 4-year-old sat in the back seat.

Castile's death, coming one day after the fatal shooting of another black man, Alton Sterling, in Louisiana and one day before a sniper killed five police officers in Dallas, has put Minnesota in the center of national anguish over race and law enforcement.

Staff writers Kim Palmer and Jennifer Brooks contributed to this report.

[Origanalist]

There are some black people at the protests, I thought everyone in Minnesota was white.

[Danke]

There are some black people at the protests, I thought everyone in Minnesota was white.

Used to be, and a few Injuns on the reservations.

[TheTexan]

Are the Officers OK?

[Danke]

Are the Officers OK?

Three officers injured. They will be in my prayers.

[Suzanimal]

Did you riot, Danke?


the crowd broke out in a chorus of Prince's "Purple Rain," a familiar Minneapolis anthem

Interesting song choice for a riot.

[Danke]

Did you riot, Danke?.

No, I went down there to minister though.

[oyarde]

There are some black people at the protests, I thought everyone in Minnesota was white.

In the Twin Cities they have lots of Somalis. 90 percent of the people in the whole state live there , communist stronghold. The other ten percent live in the safe zone or green zone ( other 90 percent of the state) , are mostly white and Injuns.My oldest sun was driving west through there last evening, dropping off one of my Grand Daughters in the Dakotas .

[TheTexan]

My oldest sun was driving west through there last evening, dropping off one of my Grand Daughters in the Dakotas .

Sounds like a bright kid.

[asurfaholic]

Sounds like a bright kid.

Twinkle twinkle, his distant cousin twinkled.

[Anti Federalist]

Looks like mostly white folks to me.

Committed SJWs I'm sure.

But can't get them off their asses to protest the killing of a Zach Hammond or Jeremy Mardis.

Assenholes.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/WireAP_02312ea21cc341a2bccd0386a17d8920_16x9_1600. jpg

[oyarde]

Well , it is Minnesota , settled by a bunch of euro trash socialists , lol , after they pushed out the more noble societies .

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[silverhandorder]

You understand, don't you?....in those protests, those white people would be mostly alone, or at least vastly outnumbered by the police (and other police-loving white people) they'd be protesting against.

As much as you want that to be the truth it is not. The real truth is that news determines the public's interest in events not the other way around.

[FindLiberty]

Looks like mostly white folks...

Who's got time for that?

It might be safer to just go home and not provoke those potentially
dangerous authorities who may go balls-out medieval on 'em all.

The city snowplow trucks are color blind and efficiently clearing
the streets is just what they are designed to do... As long as
the ground and air temperatures are above freezing, the city
fire department could be ordered out to hose off any remains...

[Anti Federalist]

You understand, don't you?....in those protests, those white people would be mostly alone, or at least vastly outnumbered by the police (and other police-loving white people) they'd be protesting against.

Yes, I do.

At the same time, I have fair dose of contempt for these people.

Even if there was a crowd, I doubt many of them would be there, because this whole mess is tainted by race so badly now that there will never be any meaningful change, and protesting innocent white people gunned down, beaten and abused by cops, doesn't fit the SJW agenda or mindset.

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[Anti Federalist]

I feel physically beaten and can not take too much more of this, mostly due to how true your statement is.

I wish I could give up and retreat...


I knew it was gone as soon as BLM was formed. It should never have come to that, but White America/Boobus was so busy kissing cop ass, they wouldn't listen to you.

http://oi57.tinypic.com/23qyrg7.jpg

[silverhandorder]

You know those 30-second things they run in between the news portions of the broadcast called commercials? Yeah, the news networks depend on advertisers for revenue. Therefore, there has to be a market for the news they broadcast, or no one will watch. If no one watches, they can't sell ads...advertisers will buy spots on networks that have better viewership.

As I pointed out before, there is a minuscule, almost non-existent, market for a news story where a white person is the victim of police abuse. (Yes, there's us, but many of us don't watch those networks.) The people who do watch those networks are more likely to side with the police if they're white, and the ones who are not white are not likely to take to the streets over a white victim, especially if white people are going to side with the police.

You can choose not to believe that. That doesn't make it any less true.

That would be the case if news organizations had no monopoly on news.

This is why online news business is booming and traditional news are going the way of the dodo. And this is why most opposition to your point of view is here online and not in traditional media.

[asurfaholic]

You know those 30-second things they run in between the news portions of the broadcast called commercials? Yeah, the news networks depend on advertisers for revenue. Therefore, there has to be a market for the news they broadcast, or no one will watch. If no one watches, they can't sell ads...advertisers will buy spots on networks that have better viewership.

As I pointed out before, there is a minuscule, almost non-existent, market for a news story where a white person is the victim of police abuse. (Yes, there's us, but many of us don't watch those networks.) The people who do watch those networks are more likely to side with the police if they're white, and the ones who are not white are not likely to take to the streets over a white victim, especially if white people are going to side with the police.

You can choose not to believe that. That doesn't make it any less true.

I respectfully disagree. I think the media is so powerful in shaping public opinion that it can manipulate public opinion simply by focusing on one topic. The adverts are all the same, whether they are talking race, politics, sports- it's beer, cars, insurance, pharma.

Imagine for a second if the media spent time talking about how much of a criminal Hilary Clinton is. Spent time interviewing people who are outraged that she could be such a criminal and yet not face charges. Show videos of people protesting in the streets, show pictures of her next to "what difference does it make" quote and dead ambassador pictures. I don't think she would be even in consideration for the country's highest office....

So, that begs the question- why does the media choose to broadcast the BLM agenda and talking points so prominently? My guess is that it leads to the type of unrest that leads to change that the powers that be want- GUN CONTROL.

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[chudrockz]

Looks like mostly white folks to me.

Committed SJWs I'm sure.

But can't get them off their asses to protest the killing of a Zach Hammond or Jeremy Mardis.

Assenholes.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/WireAP_02312ea21cc341a2bccd0386a17d8920_16x9_1600. jpg

I might have to make the trip up to St. Paul just to make sure the girl in the pink bra is okay.

[chudrockz]

Fedbook is now saying 21 officers injured. Getting dicey. Most of my family lives near there. :(

[TheTexan]

Fedbook is now saying 21 officers injured. Getting dicey. Most of my family lives near there. :(

I hope they're OK :(







The officers, that is

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[Origanalist]

She's fine. Being a SJW, I'm sure she's found her "safe space" by now.

Danke probably put her up, he's known for his charity.

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[Suzanimal]

Danke probably put her up, he's known for his charity.


He did say he was going down there to "minister." (Post #7)

Yes, the poor girl is probably getting "rehabilitated" as we speak.

[silverhandorder]

silverhandorder and asurfaholic

As I said, you can choose to believe it, or you can choose to disagree. It doesn't make it any less true. I was in the advertising business for many years. I know how this works.

Read AF's post #19. He gets it, and he's been posting these cop abuse stories for a very long time. He knows White America didn't want to hear this message.

Go on explain then.

As far as I understand. Someone gets shot and then the air waves get blasted with one version of what happened. It tends to be always the version democrats favor. If news are unbiased then they would present both sides.

I don't watch cable TV but I sometimes browse CNN and Politico. Every time one sided articles against any topic you pick. Are you going to sell me that they are not biased in BLM coverage after that? They and you are making it a black vs white issue by saying that whites don't care about keeping cops in line. Whites are just smart enough to know where to draw the line. You would allow people like Treyvon and Michael Brown ruin lives of people who put an end to them.

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[Ender]

The truth has only one side, but if it's not the side you want to hear, then it's automatically LIBERAL MEDIA BIAS.....AAAARRRRGFGGHHHHHHH!!!!! There is police abuse, and if it so happens that the victim is Black in the particular case that the media is reporting on, that doesn't change the fact that there is police abuse.

That said, I never wanted this issue to be made into a race thing. It never should have been...but (as I've said over and over and over, and only AF has agreed with me on this) White America is too busy kissing cop ass to have done anything about it when one of our own is the victim of police abuse. When that happens, you hear 1) Crickets or 2) a loud chorus of THANK YOU, POLICE!!! That's not the media's fault, and it's not Black America's fault either. But spin it your way. You're the one who sees Blacks as perpetually evil and Whites as the media victims. If we would have stood up in numbers that rival the BLM Movement to the police abuse across ALL races (in an "All Lives Matter" kind of way) it would have been so much better, and maybe the awful tragedy that happened this weekend wouldn't have had to happen. That it turned into a racial issue is something White America allowed to happen...African Americans weren't going to just sit on their hands, and as soon as they stood up, it became a racial issue. It should not have. It did not need to be.

Exactly!

[chudrockz]

This story out of Falcon Heights, MN, has particular interest to me, as from what I understand the deceased was a permit to carry holder. I recently became one myself, a couple months ago. I have a pistol (or two) with me in the car about 95% of the time since I got the permit. And I have even been pulled over since, though it (my permit and gun) was not an issue... yet. Rest assured, if and when I am stopped, my hands are on the steering wheel, I'm polite as all heck, and usually I end up shooting the breeze for a few minutes and go on my merry way. Hope that continues. I'd like to think that even though I'm a giant white guy, if I got shot by cops in a traffic stop, people would be pissed off about it.

[pcosmar]

if I got shot by cops in a traffic stop, people would be pissed off about it.

A few would..but mostly not.

Just an armed anti government extremist,, and a ,,, yawn

[Origanalist]

A few would..but mostly not.

Just an armed anti government extremist,, and a ,,, yawn

That is the sad truth of the matter.

[parocks]

You know those 30-second things they run in between the news portions of the broadcast called commercials? Yeah, the news networks depend on advertisers for revenue. Therefore, there has to be a market for the news they broadcast, or no one will watch. If no one watches, they can't sell ads...advertisers will buy spots on networks that have better viewership.

As I pointed out before, there is a minuscule, almost non-existent, market for a news story where a white person is the victim of police abuse. (Yes, there's us, but many of us don't watch those networks.) The people who do watch those networks are more likely to side with the police if they're white, and the ones who are not white are not likely to take to the streets over a white victim, especially if white people are going to side with the police.

You can choose not to believe that. That doesn't make it any less true.

Yeah, If the TV Networks aren't selling what people are buying, some guy in his basement will just start up his own, competing TV Network, right?

Look up the word "oligopoly".

Look up the phrase "barriers to entry".

People in the real world are aware that the TV Networks aren't wheat farmers in the 19th century, selling commodities at the cost of production. The TV Networks, the cable news outlets, are all saying the same things, because advertisers have no where else to go. Not saying advertisers are complaining. The advertisers are basically happy that the TV News isn't saying bad things about them. Oh, look, another ad for prescription drugs.

The world doesn't work the way you think it does.

Fox is the most popular cable news outlet because it takes the GOP side when the Dems and the GOP are battling on some issue. All the TV networks and the cable news outlets take the Dem side. The news has clear and fixed agendas and news content has nothing to do with what the people want to hear about.

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[Suzanimal]

I hope it never happens to you, but (God forbid) if it did, I certainly would be pissed off.

Me, too!!:mad:

[MelissaWV]

Per RPFs, though, if you fit the description of someone the police are looking for it'd be okay, chudrockz. Oh and although your hands are on the steering wheel, make sure that you make no moves at all even if the cop tells you to... of course that might be considered resisting... but it also goes poorly if you obey and reach for your ID...

Hell, really, you just cannot win.

[Danke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fb_hXTjbO0

[TheTexan]

Per RPFs, though, if you fit the description of someone the police are looking for it'd be okay, chudrockz. Oh and although your hands are on the steering wheel, make sure that you make no moves at all even if the cop tells you to... of course that might be considered resisting... but it also goes poorly if you obey and reach for your ID...

Hell, really, you just cannot win.

If I knew it was chudrocks or anyone else on this forum I'd assume they did it to themselves, with the whole "I have rights" "you can't do this" "no you can't search my trunk" routine

[bunklocoempire]

Shut down down I-94
The protest of the shooting death of Philando Castile brought out police in riot gear

http://www.startribune.com/marchers-block-i-94-to-westbound-traffic/386158771/#1



Thanks for posting. Are all the White Castles okay?


1:45 Did any one hear this on the "news"? ...And then a concusion grenade... yep, that's about right. Keep us divided.:mad:
7:55+, and 9:15 as well. Maybe there is some potential. Sure the **** can't tell it from the spin. Who was the latest white victim to get smoked? It'd be way cool if there was some more cooperation, but maybe I've not heard of it?

And then some home-spun spin at 10:55 Dis-information wars. :( Ain't no tellin' a mob.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3kddl9-b_U

muh interstates

[chudrockz]

If I knew it was chudrocks or anyone else on this forum I'd assume they did it to themselves, with the whole "I have rights" "you can't do this" "no you can't search my trunk" routine

That's right, because ANY assertion of rights in this day and age, no matter how calmly or rationally stated, is definitely grounds for a summary execution. :rolleyes:

[AuH20]

The truth has only one side, but if it's not the side you want to hear, then it's automatically LIBERAL MEDIA BIAS.....AAAARRRRGFGGHHHHHHH!!!!! There is police abuse, and if it so happens that the victim is Black in the particular case that the media is reporting on, that doesn't change the fact that there is police abuse.

That said, I never wanted this issue to be made into a race thing. It never should have been...but (as I've said over and over and over, and only AF has agreed with me on this) White America is too busy kissing cop ass to have done anything about it when one of our own is the victim of police abuse. When that happens, you hear 1) Crickets or 2) a loud chorus of THANK YOU, POLICE!!! That's not the media's fault, and it's not Black America's fault either. But spin it your way. You're the one who sees Blacks as perpetually evil and Whites as the media victims. If we would have stood up in numbers that rival the BLM Movement to the police abuse across ALL races (in an "All Lives Matter" kind of way) it would have been so much better, and maybe the awful tragedy that happened this weekend wouldn't have had to happen. That it turned into a racial issue is something White America allowed to happen...African Americans weren't going to just sit on their hands, and as soon as they stood up, it became a racial issue. It should not have. It did not need to be.

Hillary Clinton went on national TV and stated that ALL WHITE PEOPLE NEED TO ALTER THEIR BEHAVIOR because of the Dallas killings. If you can't see what's going on, there is no helping you. This has nothing to do with black or white. It's about control.

[silverhandorder]

If I knew it was chudrocks or anyone else on this forum I'd assume they did it to themselves, with the whole "I have rights" "you can't do this" "no you can't search my trunk" routine


That's right, because ANY assertion of rights in this day and age, no matter how calmly or rationally stated, is definitely grounds for a summary execution. :rolleyes:

He is trolling you. This is a spoof account posting as a "typical" republican.

[silverhandorder]

Wait a minute.

Everyone's complaining that the media just won't report about it when police shoot a white victim.

Now you tell me FOXNews is the most popular cable news outlet.

Seems like that could reach a pretty large audience.

I wonder if the reason why FOX doesn't run those stories is because their audience loves them some police and military? Whaddaya think?

I don't know how about everyone else. But I am saying that there is no overstepping of authority or bigotry from police if you have average American political views.

So it does not surprise me that white people and Fox would not push this. The people pushing this are people who want to start a race war. This is progressives.

[Ender]

He is trolling you. This is a spoof account posting as a "typical" republican.
TheTexan is not a troll- he posts sarcasm; he usually means the exact opposite of what he is posting- it's his funny way of saying what he thinks w/o stirring the pot.

It's called HUMOR.

[Ender]

That's right, because ANY assertion of rights in this day and age, no matter how calmly or rationally stated, is definitely grounds for a summary execution. :rolleyes:

He's joking.

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[pcosmar]

It's always been about control. That didn't begin with Hillary Clinton.

Yes it has.
The word Police means "To Control"... That is the function.

It is an authoritarian concept that lessor humans need to be controlled by their betters.

An Elitist and Authoritarian concept that is incompatible with Liberty.

[Anti Federalist]

But I am saying that there is no overstepping of authority or bigotry from police if you have average American political views.

What?

Are you kidding?

I could flood this thread with thousands of reports of the most mild mannered white folks you can imagine, including children and pets, that have been abused, beaten and killed by out of control cops.

[phill4paul]

What?

Are you kidding?

I could flood this thread with thousands of reports of the most mild mannered white folks you can imagine, including children and pets, that have been abused, beaten and killed by out of control cops.

SMDH. Guess some don't EVER read the Individual Rights Violation forum. Out of sight, out of mind.

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[silverhandorder]

What?

Are you kidding?

I could flood this thread with thousands of reports of the most mild mannered white folks you can imagine, including children and pets, that have been abused, beaten and killed by out of control cops.

Yes and to an average American that is fine. That is why an average american does not give a shit about BLM. Now bring in triggered SJWs after lies about what happened.

Why is it that you get ZERO traction anywhere. Yet four complete LIE of a news stories get all of national attention.

Mike Brown gentle giant.

Trayvon Martin a baby.

Alton sterling another lovable giant that would not hurt a fly.

Philando nice teacher.

Common. You have to be suicidal to think that allying with people that would lie about these men is a good idea.

[twomp]

Yes and to an average American that is fine. That is why an average american does not give a $#@! about BLM. Now bring in triggered SJWs after lies about what happened.

Why is it that you get ZERO traction anywhere. Yet four complete LIE of a news stories get all of national attention.

Mike Brown gentle giant.

Trayvon Martin a baby.

Alton sterling another lovable giant that would not hurt a fly.

Philando nice teacher.

Common. You have to be suicidal to think that allying with people that would lie about these men is a good idea.

Did that trigger you?

[silverhandorder]

Did that trigger you?

Absolutely.

[twomp]

Absolutely.

Awwwww.... tears... go cry harder. The cops and the government love your dedication!!

[phill4paul]

Yes and to an average American that is fine. That is why an average american does not give a shit about BLM. Now bring in triggered SJWs after lies about what happened.

Why is it that you get ZERO traction anywhere. Yet four complete LIE of a news stories get all of national attention.

Mike Brown gentle giant.

Trayvon Martin a baby.

Alton sterling another lovable giant that would not hurt a fly.

Philando nice teacher.

Common. You have to be suicidal to think that allying with people that would lie about these men is a good idea.

It's already been explained by cajun. Re-read the thread.

[silverhandorder]

It's already been explained by cajun. Re-read the thread.

She was wrong.

[phill4paul]

She was wrong.

Well, you know what they say, "Your opinion is that of an asshole." Or something like that. I forget exactly how the saying goes.

[twomp]

She was wrong.

You and your fellow Trump Trolls rampage through these forums trying to turn this into a race issue. The majority of posters on these forums have posted over and over about the police and the authoritarians they protect. There is even a sub-forum dedicated to this topic. Yet you and your fellow Trump Trolls (yes, notice how all the cop-lovers are also Trump supporters. Coincidence?) turn this into a race issue EVERY time. Black, this blacks that. Blacks kill each other more so its okay for cops to kill people and get away with it. Trump supporter logic.... dumb as rocks...

[silverhandorder]

You and your fellow Trump Trolls rampage through these forums trying to turn this into a race issue. The majority of posters on these forums have posted over and over about the police and the authoritarians they protect. There is even a sub-forum dedicated to this topic. Yet you and your fellow Trump Trolls (yes, notice how all the cop-lovers are also Trump supporters. Coincidence?) turn this into a race issue EVERY time. Black, this blacks that. Blacks kill each other more so its okay for cops to kill people and get away with it. Trump supporter logic.... dumb as rocks...

We started BLM? You got to be...

[RandallFan]

NRA didn't do shit when Zimmerman got steamrolled initially, why should they risk a very high potential black racial hoax?


99% of Black Lives Matter wanted Eric Holder to publicly execute George Zimmerman.

The only laws that should ever be applied in their eyes are SJW laws, calling people black is a capital crime.

[silverhandorder]

edit: He links some stats that trigger liberals. Like the white killed by blacks and etc. And those have been partially debunked. So take it as you like.

While we are on the topic.

http://imgur.com/gallery/sKabZ

Jay Stalien, Police Officer from Riviera Beach, Florida

There is more at the link.


I have come to realize something that is still hard for me to understand to this day. The following may be a shock to some coming from an African American, but the mere fact that it may be shocking to some is prima facie evidence of the sad state of affairs that we are in as Humans.
I used to be so torn inside growing up. Here I am, a young African-American born and raised in Brooklyn, NY wanting to be a cop. I watched and lived through the crime that took place in the hood. My own black people killing others over nothing. Crack heads and heroin addicts lined the lobby of my building as I shuffled around them to make my way to our 1 bedroom apartment with 6 of us living inside. I used to be woken up in the middle of the night by the sound of gun fire, only to look outside and see that it was 2 African Americans shooting at each other.

It never sat right with me. I wanted to help my community and stop watching the blood of African Americans spilled on the street at the hands of a fellow black man. I became a cop because black lives in my community, along with ALL lives, mattered to me, and wanted to help stop the bloodshed.

As time went by in my law enforcement career, I quickly began to realize something. I remember the countless times I stood 2 inches from a young black man, around my age, laying on his back, gasping for air as blood filled his lungs. I remember them bleeding profusely with the unforgettable smell of deoxygenated dark red blood in the air, as it leaked from the bullet holes in his body on to the hot sidewalk on a summer day. I remember the countless family members who attacked me, spit on me, cursed me out, as I put up crime scene tape to cordon off the crime scene, yelling and screaming out of pain and anger at the sight of their loved ones taking their last breath. I never took it personally, I knew they were hurting. I remember the countless times I had to order new uniforms, because the ones I had on, were bloody from the blood of another black victim…of black on black crime. I remember the countless times I got back in my patrol car, distraught after having watched another black male die in front me, having to start my preliminary report something like this:
Suspect- Black/ Male, Victim-Black /Male.

I remember the countless times I canvassed the area afterwards, and asked everyone “did you see who did it”, and the popular response from the very same family members was always, “Fuck the Police, I ain't no snitch, Im gonna take care of this myself". This happened every single time, every single homicide, black on black, and then my realization became clearer.

I woke up every morning, put my freshly pressed uniform on, shined my badge, functioned checked my weapon, kissed my wife and kid, and waited for my wife to say the same thing she always does before I leave, “Make sure you come back home to us”. I always replied, “I will”, but the truth was I was never sure if I would. I almost lost my life on this job, and every call, every stop, every moment that I had this uniform on, was another possibility for me to almost lose my life again. I was a target in the very community I swore to protect, the very community I wanted to help. As a matter of fact, they hated my very presence. They called me “Uncle Tom”, and “wanna be white boy”, and I couldn’t understand why. My own fellow black men and women attacking me, wishing for my death, wishing for the death of my family. I was so confused, so torn, I couldn’t understand why my own black people would turn against me, when every time they called …I was there. Every time someone died….I was there. Every time they were going through one of the worst moments in their lives…I was there. So why was I the enemy? I dove deep into that question…Why was I the enemy? Then my realization became clearer.
I spoke to members of the community and listened to some of the complaints as to why they hated cops. I then did research on the facts. I also presented facts to these members of the community, and listened to their complaints in response. This is what I learned:

Complaint: Police always targeting us, they always messing with the black man.
Fact: A city where the majority of citizens are black (Baltimore for example) …will ALWAYS have a higher rate of black people getting arrested, it will ALWAYS have a higher rate of blacks getting stopped, and will ALWAYS have a higher rate of blacks getting killed, and the reason why is because a city with those characteristics will ALWAYS have a higher rate of blacks committing crime. The statistics will follow the same trend for Asians if you go to China, for Hispanics if you go to Puerto Rico, for whites if you go to Russia, and the list goes on. It’s called Demographics

Complaint: More black people get arrested than white boys.
Fact: Black People commit a grossly disproportionate amount of crime. Data from the FBI shows that Nationwide, Blacks committed 5,173 homicides in 2014, whites committed 4,367. Chicago’s death toll is almost equal to that of both wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, combined. Chicago’s death toll from 2001–November, 26 2015 stands at 7,401. The combined total deaths during Operation Iraqi Freedom (2003-2015: 4,815) and Operation Enduring Freedom/Afghanistan (2001-2015: 3,506), total 8,321.

Complaint: Blacks are the only ones getting killed by police, or they are killed more.
Fact: As of July 2016, the breakdown of the number of US Citizens killed by Police this year is, 238 White people killed, 123 Black people killed, 79 Hispanics, 69 other/or unknown race.
Fact: Black people kill more other blacks than Police do, and there are only protest and outrage when a cop kills a black man. University of Toledo criminologist Dr. Richard R. Johnson examined the latest crime data from the FBI’s Supplementary Homicide Reports and Centers for Disease Control and found that an average of 4,472 black men were killed by other black men annually between Jan. 1, 2009, and Dec. 31, 2012. Professor Johnson’s research further concluded that 112 black men died from both justified and unjustified police-involved killings annually during this same period.

Complaint: Well we already doing a good job of killing ourselves, we don’t need the Police to do it. Besides they should know better.
The more I listened, the more I realized. The more I researched, the more I realized. I would ask questions, and would only get emotional responses & inferences based on no facts at all. The more killing I saw, the more tragedy, the more savagery, the more violence, the more loss of life of a black man at the hands of another black man….the more I realized.
I haven’t slept well in the past few nights. Heartbreak weighs me down, rage flows through my veins, and tears fills my eyes. I watched my fellow officers assassinated on live television, and the images of them laying on the ground are seared into my brain forever. I couldn’t help but wonder if it had been me, a black man, a black cop, on TV, assassinated, laying on the ground dead,..would my friends and family still think black lives mattered? Would my life have mattered? Would they make t-shirts in remembrance of me? Would they go on tv and protest violence? Would they even make a Facebook post, or share a post in reference to my death?
All of my realizations came to this conclusion. Black Lives do not matter to most black people. Only the lives that make the national news matter to them. Only the lives that are taken at the hands of cops or white people, matter. The other thousands of lives lost, the other black souls that I along with every cop, have seen taken at the hands of other blacks, do not matter. Their deaths are unnoticed, accepted as the “norm”, and swept underneath the rug by the very people who claim and post “black lives matter”. I realized that this country is full of ignorance, where an educated individual will watch the ratings-driven news media, and watch a couple YouTube video clips, and then come to the conclusion that they have all the knowledge they need to have in order to know what it feels like to have a bullet proof vest as part of your office equipment, “Stay Alive” as part of your daily to do list, and having insurance for your health insurance because of the high rate of death in your profession. They watch a couple videos and then they magically know in 2 minutes 35 seconds, how you are supposed to handle a violent encounter, which took you 6 months of Academy training, 2 – 3 months of field training, and countless years of blood, sweat, tears and broken bones experiencing violent encounters and fine tuning your execution of the Use of Force Continuum. I realized that there are even cops, COPS, duly sworn law enforcement officers, who are supposed to be decent investigators, who will publicly go on the media and call other white cops racist and KKK, based on a video clip that they watched thousands of miles away, which was filmed after the fact, based on a case where the details aren’t even known yet and the investigation hasn’t even begun. I realized that most in the African American community refuse to look at solving the bigger problem that I see and deal with every day, which is black on black crime taking hundreds of innocent black lives each year, and instead focus on the 9 questionable deaths of black men, where some were in the act of committing crimes. I realized that they value the life of a Sex Offender and Convicted Felon, [who was in the act of committing multiple felonies: felon in possession of a firearm-FELONY, brandishing and threatening a homeless man with a gun-Aggravated Assault in Florida: FELONY, who resisted officers who first tried to taze him, and WAS NOT RESTRAINED, who can be clearly seen in one of the videos raising his right shoulder, then shooting it down towards the right side of his body exactly where the firearm was located and recovered] more than the lives of the innocent cops who were assassinated in Dallas protecting the very people that hated them the most. I realized that they refuse to believe that most cops acknowledge that there are Bad cops who should have never been given a badge & gun, who are chicken shit and will shoot a cockroach if it crawls at them too fast, who never worked in the hood and may be intimidated. That most cops dread the thought of having to shoot someone, and never see the turmoil and mental anguish that a cop goes through after having to kill someone to save his own life. Instead they believe that we are all blood thirsty killers, because the media says so, even though the numbers prove otherwise. I realize that they truly feel as if the death of cops will help people realize the false narrative that Black Lives Matter, when all it will do is take their movement two steps backwards and label them domestic terrorist. I realized that some of these people, who say Black Lives Matter, are full of hate and racism. Hate for cops, because of the false narrative that more black people are targeted and killed. Racism against white people, for a tragedy that began 100’s of years ago, when most of the white people today weren’t even born yet. I realized that some in the African American community’s idea of “Justice” is the prosecution of ANY and EVERY cop or white man that kills or is believed to have killed a black man, no matter what the circumstances are. I realized the African American community refuses to look within to solve its major issues, and instead makes excuses and looks outside for solutions. I realized that a lot of people in the African American community lead with hate, instead of love. Division instead of Unity. Turmoil and rioting, instead of Peace. I realized that they have become the very entity that they claim they are fighting against.

I realized that the very reasons I became a cop, are the very reasons my own people hate me, and now in this toxic hateful racially charged political climate, I am now more likely to die,... and it is still hard for me to understand…. to this day.

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BLM remind me of Occupy movement. We can all see how that ends too.

[cajuncocoa]

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[phill4paul]

edit: He links some stats that trigger liberals.

Did the mauling in a thug scrum of Kelly Thomas trigger you?

[silverhandorder]

Did the mauling in a thug scrum of Kelly Thomas trigger you?

No it made me sad for America overall. Was not surprised.

[Anti Federalist]

Yes and to an average American that is fine.

So then you are agreeing with Cajun's point: That white people refused to get out in front of this issue because they are just fine with cops abusing and killing people, the majority of whom are white, by the way.

Because of that a BLM sprang up, the SJWs and media ran with it, and now we're at a point where we are about to get more tyranny and abuse.

[silverhandorder]

So then you are agreeing with Cajun's point: That white people refused to get out in front of this issue because they are just fine with cops abusing and killing people, the majority of whom are white, by the way.

Because of that a BLM sprang up, the SJWs and media ran with it, and now we're at a point where we are about to get more tyranny and abuse.

Black people in large have the same opinion as white people. Non stop coverage and above all else LIES is what gave fire to BLM. This is being done with a purpose. The purpose is to either make whites lose their shlt and put everyone in their place or to have whites roll over and then keep using that when needed. It's a win win for elites and a lose lose for everyone else involved.

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Mike Brown gentle giant.

Trayvon Martin a baby.

Alton sterling another lovable giant that would not hurt a fly.

Philando nice teacher.

[phill4paul]

No it made me sad for America overall. Was not surprised.

But, you didn't do anything about it? Didn't get a protest together? Didn't march? What about when Jeremy Mardis was shot? Anything? Hell, did you even read the Individual Rights Violation thread? Any of those cases cause you to "trigger." No? Then why are you bitching when others do it? Something you wish you had the balls to do?

[silverhandorder]

But, you didn't do anything about it? Didn't get a protest together? Didn't march? What about when Jeremy Mardis was shot? Anything? Hell, did you even read the Individual Rights Violation thread? Any of those cases cause you to "trigger." No? Then why are you bitching when others do it? Something you wish you had the balls to do?

Because I see them getting used like cheap condoms.

Marching for what? Marching so that some one gets triggered and shoots 12 cops? What do you think a response is going to be?

[phill4paul]

Because I see them getting used like cheap condoms.

Marching for what? Marching so that some one gets triggered and shoots 12 cops? What do you think a response is going to be?

No. I'm asking why YOU as a WHITE man did not join with other WHITES to protest police killings of WHITES?

[silverhandorder]

No. I'm asking why YOU as a WHITE man did not join with other WHITES to protest police killings of WHITES?

Yes. I also have not marched when they printed trillions of dollars. Or when they bombed Libya. But those are not related to why I do not like BLM. I gave my reasons. They are founded on lies and are being used.

[Ender]

Black people in large have the same opinion as white people. Non stop coverage and above all else LIES is what gave fire to BLM. This is being done with a purpose. The purpose is to either make whites lose their shlt and put everyone in their place or to have whites roll over and then keep using that when needed. It's a win win for elites and a lose lose for everyone else involved.

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You have no idea what it is like to be black in most places in America. 99.9% of the shit they go through is NOT LIES.

There was a very telling movie made in 1947 about the continual prejudice of Jews in that era:

Gentlemen's Agreement

Storyline

Philip Green is a highly respected writer who is recruited by a national magazine to write a series of articles on anti-Semitism in America. He's not too keen on the series, mostly because he's not sure how to tackle the subject. Then it dawns on him: if he was to pretend to all and sundry that he was Jewish, he could then experience the degree of racism and prejudice that exists and write his story from that perspective. It takes little time for him to experience bigotry. His anger at the way he is treated also affects his relationship with Kathy Lacy, his publisher's niece and the person who suggested the series in the first place.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039416/

So- pretend to be black for awhile and see some vestige of Truth.

I dare ya.

[silverhandorder]

You have no idea what it is like to be black in most places in America. 99.9% of the $#@! they go through is NOT LIES.

There was a very telling movie made in 1947 about the continual prejudice of Jews in that era:

Gentlemen's Agreement


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039416/

So- pretend to be black for awhile and see some vestige of Truth.

I dare ya.

What does this have anything to do with what I said?

[cajuncocoa]

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[cajuncocoa]

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[phill4paul]

Yes. I also have not marched when they printed trillions of dollars. Or when they bombed Libya. But those are not related to why I do not like BLM. I gave my reasons. They are founded on lies and are being used.

The best lie takes at least a kernel of truth. Blacks just happened to get tired of the shit. Sorry if you don't understand that. Blacks don't trust cops. Never have. Cops came about, at least in part, out of "paddy roller" plantation enforcers. And they have lived within the kernel of the seed their whole lives that has sprouted this movement. I don't like that it has turned into a Black vs. White movement. But, Whites haven't done anything but worship the police. The chickens come home to roost. Cluck, cluck.

[Ender]

What does this have anything to do with what I said?

Answering what you've said continually.....

Stuff like this:


Quote Originally Posted by silverhandorder
Yes and to an average American that is fine. That is why an average american does not give a $#@! about BLM. Now bring in triggered SJWs after lies about what happened.

Why is it that you get ZERO traction anywhere. Yet four complete LIE of a news stories get all of national attention.

Mike Brown gentle giant.

Trayvon Martin a baby.

Alton sterling another lovable giant that would not hurt a fly.

Philando nice teacher.

Common. You have to be suicidal to think that allying with people that would lie about these men is a good idea.

If those guys were white you'd believe the good stories about them.

[phill4paul]

Answering what you've said continually.....

Stuff like this:



If those guys were white you'd believe the good stories about them.

I'm gonna have to disagree. Don't think he would. Don't think he even considers or worries about it. Whites that get shot probably deserved it too. Thank you, police.

[silverhandorder]

Black people in large have the same opinion as white people. Non stop coverage and above all else LIES is what gave fire to BLM. This is being done with a purpose. The purpose is to either make whites lose their shlt and put everyone in their place or to have whites roll over and then keep using that when needed. It's a win win for elites and a lose lose for everyone else involved.

edit:


You have no idea what it is like to be black in most places in America. 99.9% of the $#@! they go through is NOT LIES.

There was a very telling movie made in 1947 about the continual prejudice of Jews in that era:

Gentlemen's Agreement


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039416/

So- pretend to be black for awhile and see some vestige of Truth.

I dare ya.


I understand perfectly the point Ender 's making. It's not difficult at all.


Mike Brown gentle giant.

Trayvon Martin a baby.

Alton sterling another lovable giant that would not hurt a fly.

Philando nice teacher

Then you are (comment about intelligence).

His point is to quote me to insert a comment about plight of black people in America. I had zero to say about it. I was talking about four very well spread incidents where the black people that were shot were portrayed as harmless and examples of a good citizen. When the truth is 180 deg off.


I'm going to stop you right there.

No, they don't.

No matter the skin color of the victim of police abuse, white people are more likely to take sides with the police than they are to ever see the police as abusive.

Black people are (like some of us in the libertarian movement) just the opposite.

White people kiss cop ass; black people certainly do not.

You don't know what you are talking about. White people are not targeted with news that trigger them. And cop abuse will trigger less white people and makes less sense to try to trigger them.

Without outside influence black people will default to being just as pro state as white people. They have different cultures, intellect and etc that does not make them the same. But 98% of people are statist. You are a tiny minority. I am a tiny minority. Supporting state enforcement agencies is supported by whites and blacks. Do blacks go out to protest when cops enforce taxes? Exactly you are way too wrapped up in issues that hijacked you.



The best lie takes at least a kernel of truth. Blacks just happened to get tired of the $#@!. Sorry if you don't understand that. Blacks don't trust cops. Never have. Cops came about, at least in part, out of "paddy roller" plantation enforcers. And they have lived within the kernel of the seed their whole lives that has sprouted this movement. I don't like that it has turned into a Black vs. White movement. But, Whites haven't done anything but worship the police. The chickens come home to roost. Cluck, cluck.

Cops are plantation enforcers? Wtf kind of weed you smoking? So Russian cops are from which plantations? For that matter every other country on earth. Blacks love them gubbermint just like whites. They will have you get shot in the back of the head if you refuse to pay taxes. You are being used.

[silverhandorder]

Answering what you've said continually.....

Stuff like this:



If those guys were white you'd believe the good stories about them.


I'm gonna have to disagree. Don't think he would. Don't think he even considers or worries about it. Whites that get shot probably deserved it too. Thank you, police.

Michal Brown deserved to get shot. Hands down. This is like a litmus test. If you think otherwise there is no point for us to talk. Incidentally also shows why BLM will go the way of the Occupy or end America.

[phill4paul]

Cops are plantation enforcers? Wtf kind of weed you smoking? So Russian cops are from which plantations? For that matter every other country on earth. Blacks love them gubbermint just like whites. They will have you get shot in the back of the head if you refuse to pay taxes. You are being used.

Been here since 2007 and missed this, did you? The op is AntiFederalist.

"The start of modern "policing" - Support Your Local Slave Patrol"

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?444608-The-start-of-modern-quot-policing-quot-Support-Your-Local-Slave-Patrol

Welcome to Ron Paul Forums, new member.

[cajuncocoa]

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[silverhandorder]

Been here since 2007 and missed this, did you? The op is AntiFederalist.

"The start of modern "policing" - Support Your Local Slave Patrol"

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?444608-The-start-of-modern-quot-policing-quot-Support-Your-Local-Slave-Patrol

Welcome to Ron Paul Forums, new member.

I don't want to get off subject. It is nice esoteric thing to read when you have nothing to do.

Cops are universal. China has them. Europe has them. America has them. Cops are cops. Any other history attached to them does not change what I said. To ignore what I said is to ignore truth.

[phill4paul]

Michal Brown deserved to get shot. Hands down. This is like a litmus test. If you think otherwise there is no point for us to talk. Incidentally also shows why BLM will go the way of the Occupy or end America.

I didn't say a Gott damned thing about the guilt or innocence of Micheal Brown. Quit obfuscating. It is the last resort of someone that is losing an argument. Did you read the article about "paddy-rollers" yet, or are you just going to ignore it and blather on?

[phill4paul]

I don't want to get off subject. It is nice esoteric thing to read when you have nothing to do.

Cops are universal. China has them. Europe has them. America has them. Cops are cops. Any other history attached to them does not change what I said. To ignore what I said is to ignore truth.

And you always have something else to do. Which is exactly the point. Cops are cops because we allow them that particular position. BLM is calling bullshit on them. You are not. Which means you have more of a problem with the color of the people that are calling their shit than with them. That is the truth.

[silverhandorder]

I'll let Ender explain his point to you. I just wanted to let you know it's not that difficult to see it, but it's not my place to explain it.





That's exactly what I said in this (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?497732-Cops-Shoot-White-Guy-in-Fresno-Nobody-Pays-Attention&p=6257624&viewfull=1#post6257624) post yesterday, to which you responded with ridicule.

Yes, that's true. And right-wing whites will claim to want smaller government, except when it comes to police and the military. There are hypocrites on both sides of the political spectrum.

I agree.


I didn't say a Gott damned thing about the guilt or innocence of Micheal Brown. Quit obfuscating. It is the last resort of someone that is losing an argument. Did you read the article about "paddy-rollers" yet, or are you just going to ignore it and blather on?

I am going to ignore it because I think it is going off tangent. I am asking for your opinion on MB. Yes or No? On deserving to be shot.


And you always have something else to do. Which is exactly the point. Cops are cops because we allow them that particular position. BLM is calling bull$#@! on them. You are not. Which means you have more of a problem with the color of the people that are calling their $#@! than with them. That is the truth.

Are you black or white? I have the same problem with you as I have with BLM. If you are black substitute your self with anyone on this forum that argued with me that is white.

[phill4paul]

I am going to ignore it because I think it is going off tangent. I am asking for your opinion on MB. Yes or No? On deserving to be shot.

You choose to ignore much. I believe the cop was errant in the use of lethal force. Force continuum is no longer practiced as it once was. Feel free to revisit the threads from the time: Michael Brown site:ronpaulforums.com


Are you black or white? I have the same problem with you as I have with BLM. If you are black substitute your self with anyone on this forum that argued with me that is white.

I'm white. A country boy. I have lived in the city. What is considered a black ghetto.

Do you have a point to make? Or are you just looking for something to further obfuscate what has been presented to you?

[silverhandorder]

You choose to ignore much. I believe the cop was errant in the use of lethal force. Force continuum is no longer practiced as it once was. Feel free to revisit the threads from the time: Michael Brown site:ronpaulforums.com

So in short no you don't think he should have been shot. I think he should be. No shit we will not agree on anything.


I'm white. A country boy. I have lived in the city. What is considered a black ghetto.

Do you have a point to make? Or are you just looking for something to further obfuscate what has been presented to you?
So I have a problem with a white country boy not with black people.

[parocks]

Wait a minute.

Everyone's complaining that the media just won't report about it when police shoot a white victim.

Now you tell me FOXNews is the most popular cable news outlet.

Seems like that could reach a pretty large audience.

I wonder if the reason why FOX doesn't run those stories is because their audience loves them some police and military? Whaddaya think?

I'd guess that the FOX audience loves them some police and military. However, there are a lot of people who don't like either the typical brand of leftism or the FOX version of reality. I'm not really saying that Fox and the others are really all that different. FOX appeals to who it appeals to.

You aren't addressing the point that news is an oligopoly, and they aren't responding to demand for stories, they're selling what they want, because there are insurmountable barriers to entry. Most people don't like what the news media has to say.

[cajuncocoa]

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[parocks]

Good grief. They have to sell advertising. This isn't the USSR. It's one thing to ignore certain stories (like those about Ron Paul in 2012, or police abuse of white people) but it's harder to push an agenda on viewers that they don't want to hear...I didn't say impossible, I said harder.

The stories about police abuse of white people are easy to throw away. The liberals in the newsroom aren't interested in telling it because of course they would rather do a story about minority victims. White people aren't interested in hearing it because it would shatter their perception of cops as heroes. There is NO ONE who wants to touch that story....so it goes untold.

If all the networks (partial Fox exception, partial) are saying the same thing, then advertising will get sold. There's nowhere else to go.

They're an oligopoly. Not a free market. You're pretending that they're fierce competitors. They aren't. They're working together, that's the nature of the oligopoly.

Look at and understand the differences between oligopoly and free market - perfect competition.

You can bold sell advertising all you want. They all have the same product - they all are pushing the same agenda - and advertisers and viewers don't have other choices. Guy in his basement cannot set up his own TV network.

[cajuncocoa]

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[Danke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Onnzub_7Z0&app=desktop

[cajuncocoa]

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[Danke]

Well, if only this would have come out sooner. There is the proof he deserved to be shot!

/sarcasm

I take it as to explain her nonchalant Facebook video made as her "bf" was bleeding out.

But of course, some like you see it differently.

[cajuncocoa]

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[Danke]

You didn't "explain" anything. You just slapped the video up there.

The video she made as her bf was bleeding out didn't seem nonchalant to me...but of course, some like you see it differently.
I, no not I.

I just think it might explain her behavior. I'm guessing she was high on something to behave the way she did.

[silverhandorder]

We will find out more later.

Some suggested he does not have a concealed carry licence. People say he certainly did not behave as if he had one. You are taught to tell the officer first and let him disarm you.

[liveandletlive]

Better get used to it. Soon every issue will be racial in this country because the battle lines are no so clearly drawn between racial groups.

[cajuncocoa]

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[silverhandorder]

"Some suggested..."
"People say..."

And if he did have a concealed carry permit, the record's probably been scrubbed by now to appeal to the copsuckers. Can't have them thinking less of their heroes.

Yeah you are crazy to suggest that. You have no evidence but you already made up your mind.

[cajuncocoa]

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[silverhandorder]

Backatcha. You have no evidence to suggest what you did in the post to which I responded, but you've already made up your mind as well.
Actually the things you picked out specifically show that I am not making up my mind. Some suggested and people say are not absolute terms and they are supposed next to be challenged.

Which again just proves you are freaking out.

[cajuncocoa]

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[silverhandorder]

WTF is there to "freak out" about?
Truth it exposes left issues as moraly bankrupt. I ascribe your views to the left not to conservatives or to libertarians.

[cajuncocoa]

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[Ender]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Onnzub_7Z0&app=desktop

So weed's a reason to be shot?

Please Danke, not from YOU....... :eek:

[Danke]

So weed's a reason to be shot?

Please Danke, not from YOU....... :eek:

How do you come to that conclusion?

[silverhandorder]

The problem is that you're not really libertarian. You're alt-right; you don't understand libertarianism. You and your ilk seek to bastardize the word. It's not what you bigots are trying to make it out to be. Libertarians are "live and let live" people. We view people as individuals, not members of racial groups.

I am live and let live. You are not that. You are one of these two.

1. Let chaos rain because you hate technology and order.

2. Let's appease everybody under the sun.

Or you are a Democrat.

[Ender]

How do you come to that conclusion?

Sarcasm. ;)

[cajuncocoa]

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[bunklocoempire]

I am live and let live. You are not that. You are one of these two.

1. Let chaos rain because you hate technology and order.

2. Let's appease everybody under the sun.

Or you are a Democrat.

What is your greatest fear? You seem scared.

[Occam's Banana]

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[Danke]

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[Occam's Banana]

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[Danke]

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Frick, I didn't expect that.

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[Occam's Banana]

Frick, I didn't expect that.

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[pcosmar]

You are taught to tell the officer first and let him disarm you.

Really? they teach that?

I thought it was a warning to be f'n polite or you shoot his arse.

That sort of defeats the purpose

[Anti Federalist]

We will find out more later.

Some suggested he does not have a concealed carry licence. People say he certainly did not behave as if he had one. You are taught to tell the officer first and let him disarm you.

I've held CCW in four states, and have never been taught that.

[cajuncocoa]

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[Todd]

You know those 30-second things they run in between the news portions of the broadcast called commercials? Yeah, the news networks depend on advertisers for revenue. Therefore, there has to be a market for the news they broadcast, or no one will watch. If no one watches, they can't sell ads...advertisers will buy spots on networks that have better viewership.

As I pointed out before, there is a minuscule, almost non-existent, market for a news story where a white person is the victim of police abuse. (Yes, there's us, but many of us don't watch those networks.) The people who do watch those networks are more likely to side with the police if they're white, and the ones who are not white are not likely to take to the streets over a white victim, especially if white people are going to side with the police.

You can choose not to believe that. That doesn't make it any less true.

And therein lies the single greatest threat to freedom. A media system that is interested in ratings and market rather than what it's true purpose is. To hold accountable those in power when they abuse their power.

[silverhandorder]

And therein lies the single greatest threat to freedom. A media system that is interested in ratings and market rather than what it's true purpose is. To hold accountable those in power when they abuse their power.

You have it backwards. If the media is only interested in ratings and market they will be greatest force for freedom. Hence why internet which is exactly that is thriving. You have drudge and Breitbart destroying traditional media in ratings in the market. You have Stefan Moleneux and Joe Rogan getting views.

When media is tasked with holding people in power accountable it gets captured and used against you. Our media is not market based. You have licences for big broadcasters and for radio. They can not held accountable the people who give them licences. Fox news got uppity with Obama and he put them in their place real fast.

[oyarde]

This thread needs more Minnesota riot coverage .

[Danke]

This thread needs more Minnesota riot coverage .

Too hot this week for rioting.

[oyarde]

Too hot this week for rioting.

LOL , true.

[SovereignMN]

Here's an email that went out to all employees in the Twin Cities market today.


Colleagues -

The safety and wellbeing of our employees and customers is our highest priority. We have been notified of a planned protest today, which will make its way from the Convention Center down Nicollet Mall. The protest will begin at 4 p.m., and we will monitor the activities to respond as necessary. When the protest nears, security will monitor the access to the building and will direct you to other ways to leave as necessary (e.g., via the skyway).

If you work at XXXXXXXXX, you may leave at 3 p.m. to avoid the protest. If you work in another location in downtown Minneapolis and you are concerned about arriving to or leaving from work, please contact your manager about planning an alternative work arrangement (e.g. leaving early, working from home).

It’s important to point out that we expect this protest to be peaceful and are not aware of any danger or threat. We simply want you to be prepared.

[A. Havnes]

In the Twin Cities they have lots of Somalis. 90 percent of the people in the whole state live there , communist stronghold. The other ten percent live in the safe zone or green zone ( other 90 percent of the state) , are mostly white and Injuns.My oldest sun was driving west through there last evening, dropping off one of my Grand Daughters in the Dakotas .

I think more than 10 percent of us live in the rural areas! Rochester is pretty big, as is Duluth and St. Cloud. I live near Bemidji, which, although it's not huge, it's not exactly a village either.

But, yeah, there are a lot of Somalis in the TCs now, and our state turns blue every election like a broken pregnancy test!

[bunklocoempire]

From 7-11-16, video at site. WCCO, your go-to station for early a.m. school closings and corn detasseling crew news, used to be anyways.


46 Charged With 3rd Degree Riot In Connection With I-94 Protest



ST. PAUL, Minn. (WCCO) — Forty-six people arrested on riot charges have been charged with 3rd degree unlawful assembly and public nuisance charges in connection with Saturday’s I-94 protest that shut down the major highway.

Bail is set at $1,500, and those charged could make their first court appearances as soon as Tuesday.

The protests are in response to the shooting death of Philando Castile in Falcon Heights last week by St. Anthony Police Officer Jeronimo Yanez it what seemed like a routine traffic stop. Castile’s girlfriend live-streamed the aftermath of the shooting on Facebook, and the video quickly went viral, sparking outrage.

She said Yanez shot Castile after he asked to see Castile’s ID. The officer’s attorney says Castile’s gun was the issue, not his race.
Continued- (http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/07/11/i94-protest-charges/)

3rd Degree Riot? I think they used to open for Husker Du back in the 80's...

Edit: Talked to a former MN resident and FOX watcher. I brought up getting shot for tail lights, they immediately responded with the deceased having priors. One does not have to watch FOX to understand what Ron Paul means by propaganda being the biggest challenge to getting the truth to people.

[Danke]

I think more than 10 percent of us live in the rural areas! Rochester is pretty big, as is Duluth and St. Cloud. I live near Bemidji, which, although it's not huge, it's not exactly a village either.

But, yeah, there are a lot of Somalis in the TCs now, and our state turns blue every election like a broken pregnancy test!

I think we should send some of our guests here in the Twin Cities up to Bemidji for hockey camp. It will help them to assimilate.

[jllundqu]

I have a cabin about 45 min north of Brainerd (Outing, MN... in between Emily and Remer). If the SHTF, that is one of my bugout locations.... weather dependent of course

[Danke]

From 7-11-16, video at site. WCCO, your go-to station for early a.m. school closings and corn detasseling crew news, used to be anyways.


46 Charged With 3rd Degree Riot In Connection With I-94 Protest

Continued- (http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/07/11/i94-protest-charges/)

3rd Degree Riot? I think they used to open for Husker Du back in the 80's...

There are a couple gals in those pictures that I would be willing to bail out.

[Danke]

I have a cabin about 45 min north of Brainerd (Outing, MN... in between Emily and Remer). If the SHTF, that is one of my bugout locations.... weather dependent of course

Just sold some property on the lake north of Grand Rapids. So I might be joining you in your place. We could use a good scout/scavenger like Oyarde there too.

[jllundqu]

Just sold some property on the lake north of Grand Rapids. So I might be joining you in your place. We could use a good scout/scavenger like Oyarde there too.

lol. PM me and I'll give you coords! I've got more guns and ammo than I can use!

[Danke]

lol. PM me and I'll give you coords! I've got more guns and ammo than I can use!

I'll bring guns and ammo too. Do you have an outbuilding or tent for Oyarde. He would be useful as an early warning system if we can teach him how to use a walkie talkies..

[bunklocoempire]

Harris, MN has a pocket of resistance.

Security clearance required. Clearance involves being staked down naked, molasses, and cattle.

Baby Girl does the "screening". Totally legit.

http://i.imgur.com/6q9DyGr.jpg?1

[jllundqu]

I'll bring guns and ammo too. Do you have an outbuilding or tent for Oyarde. He would be useful as an early warning system if we can teach him how to use a walkie talkies..

Plenty of room for lovers of liberty.

[Danke]

Harris, MN has a pocket of resistance.

Security clearance required. Clearance involves being staked down naked, molasses, and cattle.

Baby Girl does the "screening". Totally legit.

http://i.imgur.com/6q9DyGr.jpg?1

Cross Harris off my list, HB sounds like "he'd" do well there.

[oyarde]

I think we should send some of our guests here in the Twin Cities up to Bemidji for hockey camp. It will help them to assimilate.

I have a silver eagle against them assimilating .

[Danke]

I have a silver eagle against them assimilating .

If they don't, will just have to put them on reservations. Maybe cut out some space from existing reservations for them.

[oyarde]

I hope Havnes checks his tailights . I need more riot coverage Danke , get down there and do a little of that " public nuisance " stuff the cops are talking about .

[oyarde]

If they don't, will just have to put them on reservations. Maybe cut out some space from existing reservations for them.

Somali Res in Minnesota reminds me of the Apache Res in the Everglades .

[bunklocoempire]

Yes, HB would do totally fine in Harris, MN...

http://i.imgur.com/hso7hMy.png

[Danke]

Somali Res in Minnesota reminds me of the Apache Res in the Everglades .

I wonder if we can teach them to fish freshwater lakes and gather wild rice? They suck at driving taxis.

[oyarde]

I wonder if we can teach them to fish freshwater lakes and gather wild rice? They suck at driving taxis.

How does one go from sitting around in Somalia with an AK smoking the one hitter in the dark to driving a taxi in the Twin Cities ?

[Danke]

How does one go from sitting around in Somalia with an AK smoking the one hitter in the dark to driving a taxi in the Twin Cities ?

They grow up not driving and have no winters. That is a perfect combination to be a professional taxi car driver in Minnesota. If we could just get them to use a g*****n blinkers. Even Injuns were able to learn that.

[bunklocoempire]

Typical anti-Somali rhetoric. Semaphore use is discriminatory and was promoted by the Nazis.:toady:

http://i.imgur.com/lRxpQtG.jpg?1

Dream cabs in our lifetime! All made possible through the wisdom of displacing people, government roads, licensing, and no-fault insurance.
Good for protests, too.

[jllundqu]

Twin Cities? You mean Mogadishu on the Mississippi?

[oyarde]

Twin Cities? You mean Mogadishu on the Mississippi?

If the Vikings do not win the NFC this season , the river is going to move .