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enhanced_deficit
07-08-2016, 03:20 PM
Political reactions are getting extreme:

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Former Rep. Joe Walsh on Dallas shootings: ‘Obama has blood on his hands’


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Conservative talk radio host and former Illinois Rep. Joe Walsh fired off a series of tweets Thursday night in the aftermath of the sniper shootings of Dallas police officers, saying President Obama “has blood on his hands” for his outspoken ... more > (http://www.washingtontimes.com/multimedia/image/2_joe-walshjpg/)

By Jessica Chasmar - The Washington Times - Friday, July 8, 2016

Conservative talk radio host and former Illinois Rep. Joe Walsh fired off a series of tweets Thursday night in the aftermath of the sniper shootings of Dallas police officers, saying President Obama “has blood on his hands” for his outspoken support of the Black Lives Matter movement.

“This is now war. Watch out Obama. Watch out black lives matter punks. Real America is coming after you,” Mr. Walsh, host of the “The Joe Walsh Show,” based in Chicago, wrote in a tweet that has since been deleted, The Chicago Tribune reported (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-joe-walsh-twitter-dallas-tweet-20160708-story.html).


“Obama has BLOOD ON HIS HANDS,” he continued. “BLM should be categorized as a hate group.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/8/joe-walsh-former-ill-rep-on-dallas-shootings-obama/

Zippyjuan
07-08-2016, 04:39 PM
Shooter said he was not associated with any group which would include Black Lives Matter. But Rep Walsh is encouraging even more violence. Blood on his hands?

kahless
07-08-2016, 04:53 PM
Shooter said he was not associated with any group which would include Black Lives Matter. But Rep Walsh is encouraging even more violence. Blood on his hands?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?497695-Former-Rep-Joe-Walsh-on-Dallas-shootings-%91Obama-has-blood-on-his-hands%92

According to Chief Brown, Mr. Johnson also told negotiators that he was “upset about Black Lives Matter,” ....

Mr. Johnson’s Facebook profile page, which has since been taken down, paid homage to black pride, featuring images of a raised fist and pictures of the red, black and green Pan-African flag. Both have been symbols of nonviolent black empowerment for decades, and have also been co-opted by violent extremist groups with racist views.

Mr. Johnson also “liked” two groups that could point to his ideological views. One is the New Black Panther Party, which was founded in Dallas, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. The Anti-Defamation League categorizes the organization as the largest anti-Semitic and racist black militant group in the United States. The other group is the African American Defense League, run by a man named Mauricelm-lei Millere.

“Millere is known for calling for violence against police specifically, on a regular basis,” said Oren Segal, the director of the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism. “Usually after a high profile police-related shooting he takes to social media to encourage violence against police.”

The fact that Mr. Johnson followed Mr. Millere’s group on Facebook, Mr. Segal said, “may be an indicator that perhaps he influenced him.”

enhanced_deficit
07-08-2016, 08:26 PM
Shooter said he was not associated with any group which would include Black Lives Matter. But Rep Walsh is encouraging even more violence. Blood on his hands?

Whose blood ?
If you had asked , "did Rep Walsh have incitement on his hands?", at least that would be relevant question at present time.

As to "he said" reporting, if suspect was homegrown extremist/terrorist, early reporting in such cases can be semi-correct or even incorrect (recall evolving HIV revenge shooting (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?497049-Narrative-6-Orlando-gay-club-shooting-was-quot-HIV-revenge-quot&) reporting) , let's wait till investigation is complete and all the facts come out.

angelatc
07-08-2016, 09:12 PM
Shooter said he was not associated with any group which would include Black Lives Matter. But Rep Walsh is encouraging even more violence. Blood on his hands?

Shooter's Facebook page linked to several Black Power type groups, and he said he wanted to kill white people.If he had been white, you'd be screeching.


Obama has spent 8 years calling white Americans racist. He incited this, and he does have blood on his hands.

Liberals always get violent. It's what they do.

Zippyjuan
07-08-2016, 10:16 PM
Shooter's Facebook page linked to several Black Power type groups, and he said he wanted to kill white people.If he had been white, you'd be screeching.


Obama has spent 8 years calling white Americans racist. He incited this, and he does have blood on his hands.

Liberals always get violent. It's what they do.

He called all whites racist and all liberals are violent? There are plenty on both ends of the spectrum which can be prone to violence. Oklahoma City bombers were conservative.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opinion/the-other-terror-threat.html?_r=0


Despite public anxiety about extremists inspired by Al Qaeda and the Islamic State, the number of violent plots by such individuals has remained very low. Since 9/11, an average of nine American Muslims per year have been involved in an average of six terrorism-related plots against targets in the United States. Most were disrupted, but the 20 plots that were carried out accounted for 50 fatalities over the past 13 and a half years.

In contrast, right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities, according to a study by Arie Perliger, a professor at the United States Military Academy’s Combating Terrorism Center. The toll has increased since the study was released in 2012.

Other data sets, using different definitions of political violence, tell comparable stories. The Global Terrorism Database maintained by the Start Center at the University of Maryland includes 65 attacks in the United States associated with right-wing ideologies and 24 by Muslim extremists since 9/11. The International Security Program at the New America Foundation identifies 39 fatalities from “non-jihadist” homegrown extremists and 26 fatalities from “jihadist” extremists.

Brian4Liberty
07-08-2016, 11:11 PM
The chickens of Obama and CNN have come home to roost.

Zippyjuan
07-08-2016, 11:27 PM
This was an otherwise peaceful rally protesting cop shooting civilians and one extremist. There are pages long threads on this very topic on this forum where some have suggested that cops do deserve to be shot. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?225-Individual-Rights-Violations-Case-Studies

They complain that there has not been enough media coverage of the issue. If it was not black people, some members here might have even attended such a protest. There are bad cops and there are violent people. There are violent liberals and violent right wingers. But there are even more who are not violent. Nobody deserves to be shot- by cops or extremists. You can't lump any one group together and blame it all on them.

fr33
07-09-2016, 12:43 AM
Shooter said he was not associated with any group which would include Black Lives Matter. But Rep Walsh is encouraging even more violence. Blood on his hands?

Oh yeah totally not the type who would associate with BLM. :rolleyes:

https://i.imgur.com/tbM8Plj.jpg

pcosmar
07-09-2016, 01:20 AM
Who is this Phuck?

and why does anyone care what he says?

OK,, Voting record
Police? more more more
Military ? ,,even more
hates mislims
claims christian


ok where did I guess wrong,,just guessing

RandallFan
07-09-2016, 01:51 AM
He called all whites racist and all liberals are violent? There are plenty on both ends of the spectrum which can be prone to violence. Oklahoma City bombers were conservative.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opinion/the-other-terror-threat.html?_r=0

That was 2 white guy patsies. There's 100 blacks who've gunned down white cops & white people during Obama's term.

All of them totally in line with the black caucus & liberal caucus views in congress.



There are violent liberals and violent right wingers. But there are even more who are not violent. Nobody deserves to be shot- by cops or extremists. You can't lump any one group together and blame it all on them.

The opposition from anarchists & libertarians and others to cops is principled. The oppositoin by BLM is the invented whiteness.

They fully support Lawman Eric Holder, Obama, Lynch & others discriminating against mostly white conservative groups.

AZJoe
07-09-2016, 03:00 AM
Shooter said he was not associated with any group which would include Black Lives Matter. But Rep Walsh is encouraging even more violence. Blood on his hands?

If Micah Johnson wanted to dissociate his crimes from BLM he utterly failed. He chose to carry out his terrorist act at a BLM event. His stated cause for committing his crimes is the BLM cause. He has unfortunately stained BLM by having his and his accomplices' terrorists acts forever associated with the BLM event. Information about the other three accomplices is still being concealed. It is truly tragic all the way around.

Yes, Walsh's tweet is another irrational emotional response that tends to escalate.

RandallFan
07-09-2016, 03:04 AM
Reps: Joe Walsh, Steve King & Gov. LePage were Trump before Trump calling all stripes of scumbags.


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Trump has tense meeting with Senate Republicans, calls Illinois' Kirk 'a loser'

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Republican Sen. Mark Kirk suffered a massive stroke and is now often wheelchair-bound. His Democratic challenger, Rep. Tammy Duckworth, had her legs blown off while serving in Iraq.


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Joe Walsh/Trump's loser nemeses on right of table.

Schock(resigned, closet gay), Kinzinger(wants to bomb Assad), Kirk(Mexican loyalist, neocon)

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pcosmar
07-09-2016, 03:10 AM
Yes, Walsh's tweet is another irrational emotional response that tends to escalate.

Yes it is tragic all around. and emotional rhetoric won't help.
Neither will baiting,, because there are many who will take the bait.

identify the real enemy.

it ain't other Americans,, who don't wear a uniform.

Zippyjuan
07-09-2016, 11:46 AM
If Micah Johnson wanted to dissociate his crimes from BLM he utterly failed. He chose to carry out his terrorist act at a BLM event. His stated cause for committing his crimes is the BLM cause. He has unfortunately stained BLM by having his and his accomplices' terrorists acts forever associated with the BLM event. Information about the other three accomplices is still being concealed. It is truly tragic all the way around.

Yes, Walsh's tweet is another irrational emotional response that tends to escalate.

Do we associate the people of San Bernardino with the shooter there? Do we associate Planned Parenthood with the shooting which occurred at one of their offices in Colorado? Some may.

Brian4Liberty
07-09-2016, 12:12 PM
Do we associate the people of San Bernardino with the shooter there? Do we associate Planned Parenthood with the shooting which occurred at one of their offices in Colorado? Some may.

The best and most recent analogy we have is the Orlando shooter. Was he really part of ISIS, or just radicalized by their propaganda? Similarly, was the Dallas shooter a member of a specific organization, or just radicalized by CNN?

enhanced_deficit
07-09-2016, 02:11 PM
.. Nobody deserves to be shot- by cops or extremists. ..

What is your view on people in such groups who support/stand by/enable gangsters/war criminals responsible for shooting of innocent children of (brown) color?


Would you consider following activist to be a legitimate BLM activist or a lying hypocrite? Do you believe her better half has blood on his hands?

http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/may2014/120514mic1.jpg

angelatc
07-09-2016, 03:45 PM
Reps: Joe Walsh, Steve King & Gov. LePage were Trump before Trump calling all stripes of scumbags.

Are you seriously here disparaging TEA Partier Walsh while defending tax-cheat cheat Tammy Duckworth? Getting blown up does not make her a hero, and he was dead on when he pointed that out. She's riding her injuries right up the political ladder. They gerrymandered that district so he would lose.


Walsh is right. Obama has spent 8 years prattling on about covert racism, , and now the radical Marxists on the left are feeling entitled to take shots at the cops. They want an anti-white Revolution.

Liberal causes always get violent. You can't convince me that Obama did not see this coming, because the rest of us sure as hell did.

Ender
07-09-2016, 04:22 PM
Shooter's Facebook page linked to several Black Power type groups, and he said he wanted to kill white people.If he had been white, you'd be screeching.


Obama has spent 8 years calling white Americans racist. He incited this, and he does have blood on his hands.

Liberals always get violent. It's what they do.

O definitely has blood on his hands but it ain't "white" blood.

RandallFan
07-09-2016, 08:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu8tRf5Q31M

RandallFan
07-10-2016, 01:17 AM
Are you seriously here disparaging TEA Partier Walsh while defending tax-cheat cheat Tammy Duckworth?

I think Joe Walsh is awesome. If I quote a media story its always going to have a negative header.

enhanced_deficit
07-17-2016, 01:38 PM
Head of Cleveland Police Union on Baton Rouge: Obama Has ‘Blood on His Hands’

by Josh Feldman | 1:09 pm, July 17th, 2016

http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/loomis-300x197.jpg

The head of a Cleveland police union reacted to the shooting of multiple officers in Baton Rouge by going off on President Obama and a media culture that helps boost anti-cop narratives.

Detective Steve Loomis said that the shootings of police officers, from Dallas to now, started with what he deemed as a completely false narrative concerning the death of Alton Sterling.
He said that Obama has “validated the false narrative and the nonsense that Black Lives Matter and the media are pressing out there,” and he said the president has “blood on his hands” that he won’t be able to wash off.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/head-of-cleveland-police-union-on-baton-rouge-obama-has-blood-on-his-hands/

enhanced_deficit
07-17-2016, 11:15 PM
Klayman is suing Obama:

Conservative Lawyer Sues Obama, Black Lives Matter Activists For Inciting ‘Race War’

He's suing on behalf of all law enforcement officers, Jews, and Caucasians who have been 'targeted'

by Sam Reisman | 8:22 pm, July 12th, 2016

http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/klayman-300x196.jpgControversial conservative legal activist Larry Klayman has filed a class action lawsuit against President Obama, Rev. Al Sharpton, Louis Farrakhan, former Attorney General Eric Holder, and a host of other Black Lives Matter activists, alleging that they have incited a “race war” against law enforcement, Jews, and whites.

This “race war” has been meticulously planned by a well organized, concerted effort to inculcate a “fiction” in “disaffected blacks and black Muslims” that they are disproportionately targeted by law enforcement, Klayman alleges.
Klayman is suing on behalf of “law enforcement persons of all race and ethnicities,” as well as Jews and Caucasians who have been “threatened and targeted and harmed by the Defendants’ ignited race war.”
He writes in his 52-page complaint (http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/160709-ComplaintASFILEDEntryt17719994461.pdf):
Those Defendants have repeatedly incited their supporters and others to engage in threats of and attacks to cause serious bodily injury or death upon police officers, Jews, and Caucasians. Thus, Defendants, each and every one of them, jointly and severally, conspiring and/or acting in concert either expressly or otherwise, are inciting and causing serious bodily injury or death to police officers and other law enforcement persons of all races and ethnicities, Jews, and Caucasians.

Specifically, Obama and other defendants have “convinc[ed] their supporters and others that there is a civil war between blacks and law enforcement, thereby calling for immediate violence and severe bodily injury or death in response to that non-existent and fictitious threat,” he alleges. Furthermore, they “are encouraging disaffected blacks and black Muslims to ignore, disrespect, and assault law enforcement officials, and commit violence and lethal force.”
Obama and Holder conspired and strategized with Black Lives Matter activists as part of Obama’s “divide and conquer” strategy to rend the nation apart, which has been ongoing since Oct. 2008, Klayman writes.
“As a high profile white man of Jewish descent who has served as a law enforcement officer, he has personally been “subject to, and continues to be subject to, fear and intimidation of serious bodily injury or death by those who wish to harm him,” he writes.
He alleges that each one of the defendants has “publicly incited people to violence against” him personally and all law enforcement, Jews, and Caucasians, using as a pretense “the fiction that blacks and black Muslims and other minorities are being arrested and prosecuted disproportionately to the crimes that individual arrestees actually committed.”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/conservative-lawyer-sues-obama-black-lives-matter-activists-for-inciting-race-war/


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