Five cops killed by sniper fire at BLM protest in Dallas, suspect dead

[goldenequity]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXbuP19AWDM

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It appears there are 'multiple' events in various cities tonight
as a 'general' protest / reaction to the recent police shootings in Minnesota and elsewhere.

Another LIVE

http://www.fox4news.com/live

[TheTexan]

Are the Officers OK?

[goldenequity]

Are the Officers OK?

2 officers 'injured' and hospitalized.

image: http://g60i.imgup.net/image814c.jpeg

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Live fire reported being exchanged between swat and shooter.

Eyewitness: At least 20 shots - shooter used rifle, cops returned fire with pistols

gunfire audio/vids:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5Q-HvFZIKo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAzy37yzodk#t=33

https://twitter.com/Crym89s/status/751239614157819904

https://www.facebook.com/michaelbautista86/videos/vb.100003576517454/899698650159344/?type=2&theater

https://twitter.com/AndyCole84/status/751245901977440257

https://twitter.com/NotBillWalton/status/751270032412254208

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Update: One suspect is in custody. Another, possibly in a bulletproof vest & tactical gear, is at large. #Dallas #Dallaspoliceshooting

"shooter is black male, got out of red suburban"

"Update: One suspect is in custody. Another, possibly in a bulletproof vest & tactical gear, is at large." #Dallas #Dallaspoliceshooting

more shots fired female found shot

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Listening to broadcastify... http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/5318

sounds like perhaps the shooter got out of the building, they're saying to stop the buslines and anyone coming out of parking garages.
A moving gunfight.
suspect shooting any in his way

Six officers on 4th floor of el centro building, west side.......... Shooter located there

[pcosmar]

I have been expecting Blowback..

[goldenequity]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdyYjuavxWE

[goldenequity]

BofA Building...
Suspect seen inside, 7th floor, body armor.... walking back and forth

[unknown]

Another stream.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mq5hrUDoYo

[goldenequity]

Inside PD source... Multiple officers gravely injured
Fox: 6 officers shot, 5 gravely

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cmz7iDYVYAAJ2dj.jpg:large

[pcosmar]

Inside PD source... Multiple officers gravely injured
Fox: 6 officers shot, 5 gravely

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cmz7iDYVYAAJ2dj.jpg:large

What happens when someone shoots back.

[presence]

5077

[unknown]

5077

Those days are over.

[goldenequity]

DART Police (Dallas Area Rapid Transit) (Bus & Train police)
confirm 1 of its officers was killed in downtown Dallas shooting, 3 more injured

[TheTexan]

Inside PD source... Multiple officers gravely injured
Fox: 6 officers shot, 5 gravely

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cmz7iDYVYAAJ2dj.jpg:large

I hope they're Ok.

I don't want the highways to get shut down.

[presence]

NBC reporting 10 cops shot 3 dead

[goldenequity]

NBC reporting 10 cops shot 3 dead

yep.
BNO News @BNONews

Dallas police chief Brown confirms 10 officers shot; 3 of them dead, 2 in surgery, 3 in critical condition

Dallas police chief: "Tonight it appears that two snipers shot ten police officers from elevated positions during the protest/rally"


BNO News ‏@BNONews · 2m2 minutes ago

BREAKING: No suspects in custody in Dallas shooting, police chief says

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Now 3 Dead

[unknown]

Goodbye ARs.

Hello AWB.

[Weston White]

10 officers shot 3 dead, involving 2-snipers:

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Protests-in-Dallas-Over-Alton-Sterling-Death-385784431.html

[AngryCanadian]

Ongoing active shooting. Two Snipers with tactical gear.

[pcosmar]

yep.
BNO News @BNONews

Dallas police chief Brown confirms 10 officers shot; 3 of them dead, 2 in surgery, 3 in critical condition

Dallas police chief: "Tonight it appears that two snipers shot ten police officers from elevated positions during the protest/rally"


BNO News ‏@BNONews · 2m2 minutes ago

BREAKING: No suspects in custody in Dallas shooting, police chief says

It would seem they were not welcome..

or someone on over-watch put an end to shenanigans.

[goldenequity]

Police Chief Statement:
https://content.govdelivery.com/bulletins/gd/TXDALLAS-1549353?wgt_ref=TXDALLAS_WIDGET_3

[Antischism]

Here we go. People are going to try demonizing all the individuals who are peacefully protesting an important issue that we should all be fighting for, because a couple of idiots decided to start shooting at the police. Because they're more concerned about order and maintaining the status quo than protesting for justice and against police brutality. I don't wish harm on the officers, and I hope they punish the perpetrators, but I can think critically enough to understand their actions don't sully the protest or make it less important.

[SeanTX]

Away we go -- this won't accomplish anything other than to win more sympathy for the police and win more support for the police state, and make things worse.

Latest word is they believe one of the shooters had open-carried an AR-15 at the protest (though others dispute that).

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Protests-in-Dallas-Over-Alton-Sterling-Death-385784431.html#ixzz4Dmkf4teO


3 Police Officers Dead After Shooting in Downtown Dallas
By NBC 5 Staff

Three officers are dead, and at least seven others are injured in downtown Dallas Thursday, Dallas Police Chief David Brown says.

The entire statement follows:

"Tonight it appears that two snipers shot ten police officers from elevated positions during the protest/rally. Three officers are deceased, two are in surgery and three are in critical condition. An intensive search for suspects is currently underway. No suspects are in custody at this time. We ask that any citizen with information regarding the shootings tonight call 214-671-3482."

"We will provide more information once it is available. Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers tonight."

DART says one of its officers has been killed, and three others have non-life threatening injuries.

Gunshots rang out following a protest and rally held over police shootings in other parts of the U.S.

The shootings took place as a rally and march in downtown was ending. The rally was held to show solidarity with communities affected by officer-involved shootings this week in Louisiana and Minnesota.

Scores of police officers arrived downtown following the shooting, which took place about 9 p.m. near Main and Market streets and a block from the Old Red Courthouse building.

Officers could be seen taking cover as shots rang out.

[pcosmar]

10 officers shot 3 dead, involving 2-snipers:

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Protests-in-Dallas-Over-Alton-Sterling-Death-385784431.html

Over watch ?

[Mr.NoSmile]

Ah, so this is the shooting that gets folks here talking...

[Uriel999]

Here we go. People are going to try demonizing all the individuals who are peacefully protesting an important issue that we should all be fighting for, because a couple of idiots decided to start shooting at the police. Because they're more concerned about order and maintaining the status quo than protesting for justice and against police brutality. I don't wish harm on the officers, and I hope they punish the perpetrators, but I can think critically enough to understand their actions don't sully the protest or make it less important.

Annndddddddd....thread.

[pcosmar]

Here we go. People are going to try demonizing all the individuals who are peacefully protesting an important issue that we should all be fighting for, because a couple of idiots decided to start shooting at the police. Because they're more concerned about order and maintaining the status quo than protesting for justice and against police brutality. I don't wish harm on the officers, and I hope they punish the perpetrators, but I can think critically enough to understand their actions don't sully the protest or make it less important.

I have no idea who or why the first shots were fired.

But it is not like someone shooting into a crowded building.

[unknown]

The guy I'm watching is so goddam annoying.

[Antischism]

I have no idea who or why the first shots were fired.

But it is not like someone shooting into a crowded building.

As of now, it sounds like there are two snipers. These aren't just random protesters; it seems very deliberate/planned. I could be mistaken of course, but that's what it sounds like at the moment.

[squarepusher]

shit is getting real

[presence]

5078

[goldenequity]

Update:
2 Snipers...
The death toll has gone to 4 officers killed, 11 injured including 2 protesters.
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OAKLAND, Calif. (KGO) -- Protesters in Oakland have marched onto Interstate 880 in Oakland and they are blocking both lanes. They also began setting off fireworks on the highway.

More than 1,000 protesters gathered earlier in Oakland to demonstrate against the recent police killings of young black men in Minnesota and Louisiana.
http://abc7news.com/news/protesters-shut-down-lanes-of-i-880-in-oakland-/1418202/

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Separate: Bomb Threat being reported in Dallas??
BREAKING NEWS: Bomb squad has arrived. An explosive has been triggered to detonate by suspects. #Dallas
https://twitter.com/TheAnonnMessage/status/751265593387606016

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Open Carry:
An eyewitness an hour ago said there were lots of people open carrying. A bunch of people relinquished their guns to cops so as not to be mistaken for the shooter.

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Dispatch reporting "a lot of random gunfire...."

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another feed/local Dallas
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/show/cbs-11-live-video/

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KDFW REPORTING:

Could be a 3rd shooter, shots fired just now in downtown Dallas
CNN: ACTIVE SHOOTING NOW

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http://static.theglobeandmail.ca/147/news/world/article30816251.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/TXDAM101_APTOPIX_Police_Shootings_Protest.JPG

[pcosmar]

As of now, it sounds like there are two snipers. These aren't just random protesters; it seems very deliberate/planned. I could be mistaken of course, but that's what it sounds like at the moment.

There to protect protestors perhaps.

The police were what was being protested,,
their presence was provocative.

[fisharmor]

Reap the whirlwind.

[Antischism]

http://www.fox4news.com/live

Press conference just started.

[pcosmar]

http://www.fox4news.com/live

Press conference just started.

LOL,,Ministry of Truth.

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/dallas-county/breaking-shots-fired-and-officers-down-at-downtown-dallas-protest/266881573

Information still being updated but this is latest:
(just updated to eleven police shot, one civilian).


DALLAS -- Dallas Police Chief David Brown has confirmed at least 10 police officers were shot and at least three were killed in an attack by two snipers in downtown Dallas at a protest of officer-involved shootings across the country.

"Tonight it appears that two snipers shot ten police officers from elevated positions during the protest/rally," Brown wrote in a statement. "Three officers are deceased, two are in surgery and three are in critical condition. An intensive search for suspects is currently underway. No suspects are in custody at this time. We ask that any citizen with information regarding the shootings tonight call 214-671-3485."

The shot officers include both Dallas police and DART officers.

It remains an active-shooter situation. Police have asked everyone to get to safety and avoid downtown Dallas.

There will be a news conference in the next half-hour to update the situation.

At least one officer was shot in downtown Dallas Thursday night at a protest of officer-involved violence across the country. WFAA
The shots were fired as the march was moving down Lamar Street near Griffin before 9 p.m.

An officer at the scene told News 8's Marie Saavedra the shooter has a rifle. She described several volleys of quick bursts of gunfire.

Witness of shooting in downtown Dallas speaks

A bystander who was at the scene told News 8 the shooter stood by as the rally passed him, then opened fire on officers.

Another bystander, Richard Adams, said the protest was "a lovely, peaceful march," until they were walking down Commerce Street near the Bank of America building parking garage when he heard what sounded like "a bunch of firecrackers going off."

"Everybody just stopped -- 'Run, run for your lives!' Women with children and babies and everybody was chaotically running. And then, maybe I was a half-a-block away, calming down a little bit when we heard it again. [...] There must have been five times tonight -- whenever we thought we were safe, people said 'Run, people were shot!'"

The shooting took place near El Centro College. it has announced classes are cancelled on Friday.

"Person of interest":
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm0FciQWIAAi_2y.jpg

[silverhandorder]

Antischism you are disgusting. You care more about your pet issue than preserving status quo of not having snipers shoot at police.

Sorry to say but peaceful protestors do bear the responsibility for this. Because they create the environment where the cops are being targeted.

I care for police abuse. But this is hardly an issue for me when shit like this happens and when we are going through this insane election.

[fisharmor]

one civilian
They're counting the civilians? Everyone knows they don't count.

[dannno]

Here we go. People are going to try demonizing all the individuals who are peacefully protesting an important issue that we should all be fighting for, because a couple of idiots decided to start shooting at the police. Because they're more concerned about order and maintaining the status quo than protesting for justice and against police brutality. I don't wish harm on the officers, and I hope they punish the perpetrators, but I can think critically enough to understand their actions don't sully the protest or make it less important.

Police shootings ARE an important issue that should be protested, this forum reported on such incidents from the beginning, on almost a weekly basis.

The problem is the leftist media latches onto the wrong ones - police shootings where the victim actually committed real crimes, attacked police and went for their weapons. This creates a racial divide in the country and furthers the leftist paradigm that blacks are treated unfairly, even when they are acting badly.

[unknown]

5078

Thinking that hes a suspect simply because he was open carrying?

[presence]

http://i.imgur.com/GEHCKH1.png

[presence]

Thinking that hes a suspect simply because he was open carrying?

because multiple news agencies and the local PD have fingered him as a suspect?

https://twitter.com/DallasPD/status/751262719584575488

...that said he wasn't on the rooftop at the time of the shooting

https://twitter.com/dallasnewsphoto/status/751235966505881600

[Mr.NoSmile]

The problem is the leftist media latches onto the wrong ones - police shootings where the victim actually committed real crimes, attacked police and went for their weapons. This creates a racial divide in the county and furthers the leftist paradigm that blacks are treated unfairly, even when they are acting badly.

Creates a racial divide? Are you stoned or something? The racial divide never went away. It's always been here and, if anything, has just deepened over time. There's legal integration, yes, but emotionally, people will always be segregated.

[dannno]

Creates a racial divide? Are you stoned or something? The racial divide never went away. It's always been here and, if anything, has just deepened over time. There's legal integration, yes, but emotionally, people will always be segregated.

Ok, deepens the racial divide. Quit being so picky. I just woke up from a nap like 4 minutes ago to this shit, and it pretty much means the same thing, I never said there was no racial divide, I was just saying it creates more of a racial divide.

[fisharmor]

Thinking that hes a suspect simply because he was open carrying?

He's also black.

[Thor]

Is anyone surprised that people are finally taking a stand against police abuse. I am surprised it took this long actually. And I am willing to bet it will get worse before it gets better... much worse. Police will be even more jumpy, and more sniper type actions or other things will proliferate in retaliation. The militarized state and big brother will advance at a rapid rate... It is a vicious circle of death to the bottom, more than likely resulting in civil war. At the end of the day, what side will you be on? Government order and control, or rebellion against the state? It is starting folks.

[TNforPaul45]

So far their only lead is that someone saw someone with a rifle walking peacefully down the road with it? They did some great Twitter detective work there.

[Antischism]

Police shootings ARE an important issue that should be protested, this forum reported on such incidents from the beginning, on almost a weekly basis.

The problem is the leftist media latches onto the wrong ones - police shootings where the victim actually committed real crimes, attacked police and went for their weapons. This creates a racial divide in the county and furthers the leftist paradigm that blacks are treated unfairly, even when they are acting badly.

"The wrong ones?" Which ones were wrong? When is it okay to protest against the police? Your mistake is assuming these protests are only about the individuals who become the faces of these stories, when really, it's about the rotten system that keeps allowing these things to happen and for cops to get away without facing punishment. Where do your priorities lie?

Mr.NoSmile addressed the other portion of your post, so I won't. Edit: These issues of race NEED to be discussed and confronted, not swept under the rug. It exists, and there are institutional problems.

[pcosmar]

He's also black.

He is also scoring well.


Scratch that,, there is video of him in the crowd after the shooting.. He is visibly not shooting. or running, or anything really.

[dannno]

"The wrong ones?" Which ones were wrong? When is it okay to protest against the police? Your mistake is assuming these protests are only about the individuals who become the faces of these stories, when really, it's about the rotten system that keeps allowing these things to happen and for cops to get away without facing punishment. Where do your priorities lie?

Mr.NoSmile addressed the other portion of your post, so I won't.

All of the ones that blew up on the mainstream media have been "the wrong ones". The ones that were posted here for years and years, and didn't get mainstream media attention, were better ones to protest. But the media can't use those to divide the country because they can't give the real story to Fox News (where the guy is a criminal and attacks an officer) and give the concocted story to CNN and MSNBC (he was a big fluffly puppy who got shot in the back for no reason) to deepen the racial divide.

The thing is, minorities live with this shit, the harassment and mistreatment on a daily basis. So they will latch onto anything anti-police. They have a reason to protest, I agree, but it's not a good idea to latch onto the leftist media propaganda - they have bad intentions.

[fisharmor]

"The wrong ones?" Which ones were wrong? When is it okay to protest against the police? Your mistake is assuming these protests are only about the individuals who become the faces of these stories, when really, it's about the rotten system that keeps allowing these things to happen and for cops to get away without facing punishment. Where do your priorities lie?

The reason why this issue isn't going anywhere is because the Trayvons and Michael Browns get all the press. Thugs. People who were doing something wrong and got in trouble for it.
You and Danno and I can sit and argue about how they shouldn't have gotten shot either, and how they add to the evidence that the cops are all rotten, but the 70 year old white guy who remembers what New York City was like in the 70s isn't going to hear it. He's going to see that leftists are winging when criminals are getting their comeuppance, and that's as far as he's going to look into it. And if you or I were to try to convince him that there are many more John Crawfords and Philando Castiles happening, he's going to chuck shit at us like an ape because we're against his beloved cops who he sees as the only people who have any business beating up black guys.

So yeah, they're concentrating on the wrong ones. It's not Dannos or my priorities that are screwed up: it's literally everyone elses'. And we're not going to change their priorities by ignoring what their current priorities are.

[twomp]

Antischism you are disgusting. You care more about your pet issue than preserving status quo of not having snipers shoot at police.

Sorry to say but peaceful protestors do bear the responsibility for this. Because they create the environment where the cops are being targeted.

I care for police abuse. But this is hardly an issue for me when $#@! like this happens and when we are going through this insane election.

And how are peaceful protesters responsible for this? Should they not protest? Maybe they should have shielded the cops? You must be a Trump supporter. Trump supporters are dumb as rocks.

[libertyjam]

http://i.imgur.com/GEHCKH1.png


This man's brother has come forward and said it is definitely not him shooting, he was a just a 2nd am. exercising, and has already turned his rifle over to police when shooting started.

4th Officer has died.

[Antischism]

The reason why this issue isn't going anywhere is because the Trayvons and Michael Browns get all the press. Thugs. People who were doing something wrong and got in trouble for it.
You and Danno and I can sit and argue about how they shouldn't have gotten shot either, and how they add to the evidence that the cops are all rotten, but the 70 year old white guy who remembers what New York City was like in the 70s isn't going to hear it. He's going to see that leftists are winging when criminals are getting their comeuppance, and that's as far as he's going to look into it. And if you or I were to try to convince him that there are many more John Crawfords and Philando Castiles happening, he's going to chuck $#@! at us like an ape because we're against his beloved cops who he sees as the only people who have any business beating up black guys.

So yeah, they're concentrating on the wrong ones. It's not Dannos or my priorities that are screwed up: it's literally everyone elses'. And we're not going to change their priorities by ignoring what their current priorities are.

You might as well say "only a case involving a rich white person will get people to care," but even then, I don't think these people will lose their love of authority and cops. Until the cops start targeting white communities and gunning down white children, well-off white people are going to continue worshipping the police because they see them as a personal army that protects them from the "Other."

[pcosmar]

"Person of interest":
htg

That "person of interest" is seen in a video after first shots and police response..
He is seen in the crowd.. not shooting anyone. and near police too.

[Antischism]

Guy in the picture has turned himself in to the Dallas police, by the way. That doesn't mean he did it, to be clear. He's still just a person of interest.

[unknown]

Chump is gonna jump all over this.

[TheTexan]

This man's brother has come forward and said it is definitely not him shooting, he was a just a 2nd am. exercising, and has already turned his rifle over to police when shooting started.

4th Officer has died.

Well tell me this if he was truly exercising his 2nd amendment privileges then why wasnt he hunting or at a shooting range

[DGambler]

Gun control rhetoric is getting ready to get ratcheted up, and sadly people who erroneously side with cops are probably going to finally be swayed. JMHO

[Weston White]

Looks like it might be wrapped up, the guy in photo turned himself in, another subject is in custody as well, and of course a possible bomb was located nearby: https://twitter.com/DallasPD

Was this a terrorist attack or violent protesters/extremists seeking street justice?

ETA:

Also 4-deceased police now.

[dannno]

And how are peaceful protesters responsible for this? Should they not protest? Maybe they should have shielded the cops? You must be a Trump supporter. Trump supporters are dumb as rocks.

Personally I wouldn't put the responsibility for the deaths on the peaceful protesters, but he does have a point. If you find that your cause is being taken up by the mainstream media, you might want to re-think the actions you are going to take in the name of your cause. This is what happens when you latch onto leftist propaganda. But I realize that the protesters are being mistreated regularly, and so they will latch onto anything anti-police they can. It's just not a good move.

[bunklocoempire]

Gang life has it's risks and rewards. Hopefully some are led to wisdom through this.

Our son joined, trained, and then immediately split the blue line gang (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?453599-Son-Daughter-Relative-Friend-Entering-quot-Service-quot-Support-Thread&highlight=support+service) not too long ago.

"I felt like I had a target on my back", was our son's comment, and he knew the exact reasons for it. The conscience can be a wonderful thing, saving you all sorts of grief, or not.

[dannno]

You might as well say "only a case involving a rich white person will get people to care," but even then, I don't think these people will lose their love of authority and cops. Until the cops start targeting white communities and gunning down white children, well-off white people are going to continue worshipping the police because they see them as a personal army that protects them from the "Other."

Plenty of innocent white people have been beaten up and shot by police. They just don't get media attention, neither do the VAST MAJORITY no matter what the race. There is definitely a police problem, but I am just wary of the mainstream media to the point where if the leftist media is spending time and effort advocating or defending something, I do some real research before I decide to jump on the bandwagon because they don't make good partners.

[goldenequity]

"MY BROTHER IS NOT THE SUSPECT" - DALLAS SNIPER MISIDENTIFIED


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JxkwVZnKwY]

(Twitter may have literally just saved that man's life.)

He spoke with a reporter earlier before he was named as a suspect.
His brother was on camera minutes ago saying he gave his empty AR to a cop when the shooting started

[Antischism]

Gang life has it's risks and rewards. Hopefully some are led to wisdom through this.

Our son joined, trained, and then immediately split the blue line gang (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?453599-Son-Daughter-Relative-Friend-Entering-quot-Service-quot-Support-Thread&highlight=support+service) not too long ago.

"I felt like I had a target on my back", was our son's comment, and he knew the exact reasons for it. The conscience can be a wonderful thing, saving you all sorts of grief, or not.

There are so many stories of officers — who try to speak out against the abuses in their department — being threatened with deadly force and ostracized. Who polices the police? No one. They are above the law.


Plenty of innocent white people have been beaten up and shot by police. They just don't get media attention, neither do the VAST MAJORITY no matter what the race. There is definitely a police problem, but I am just wary of the mainstream media to the point where if the leftist media is spending time and effort advocating or defending something, I do some real research before I decide to jump on the bandwagon because they don't make good partners.

Sure, I'm not stating that it's exclusive to black people or minorities. Poor whites and minorities have it bad, but we also can't deny that black communities, and black males specifically, are disproportionately targeted, beaten and killed. The statistics back this up. It's no surprise then that the black community would know firsthand how crooked the system is.

I'm not concerned with finding the "perfect" case to fight back against the police, because I don't think there will ever be one. People will find so many different excuses to justify the use of force by the police when cognitive dissonance kicks in. You see it every time when an incident happens. They will try to dig up dirt on the victims to smear them and exonerate the cops in their minds. They don't want to admit that there's a problem.

[pcosmar]

It was a protest about Police Killings.

Seem some folk protest harder.

I will bet every Cop shot had a gun in his hand.
and that Cops that did not were not.

[pcosmar]

"MY BROTHER IS NOT THE SUSPECT" - DALLAS SNIPER MISIDENTIFIED


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JxkwVZnKwY]

at this point what difference does it make

[goldenequity]

BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: A fifth officer has died. The second suspect is still on the run. #Dallas

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US Marshals have arrived #Dallas

[Antischism]

at this point what difference does it make

Yep, here's the "suspect" when the shots first rang out. You can see him at 0:18 on the right side.

https://twitter.com/dallasnewsphoto/status/751235966505881600

[AZJoe]

Plenty of innocent white people have been beaten up and shot by police. They just don't get media attention, neither do the VAST MAJORITY no matter what the race. There is definitely a police problem, but I am just wary of the mainstream media to the point where if the leftist media is spending time and effort advocating or defending something, I do some real research before I decide to jump on the bandwagon because they don't make good partners.

Yes, the media absolutely has an extremely skewed bias. For instance if the concealed weapon holder that was shot in MN had been white, the media would be blaming him for carrying a concealed weapon and spinning his death as a consequence of the NRA "gun culture".

[pcosmar]

Yep, here's the "suspect" when the shots first rang out. You can see him at 0:18 on the right side.

https://twitter.com/dallasnewsphoto/status/751235966505881600

And the rabid twits were calling for his arrest.

It will break eventually.. and I do not look forward to it..
Violence always comes from Government first.. and this could get nasty.

less so if we don't fight each other.

[Antischism]

Yes, the media absolutely has an extremely skewed bias. For instance if the concealed weapon holder that was shot in MN had been white, the media would be blaming him for carrying a concealed weapon and spinning his death as a consequence of the NRA "gun culture".

If you want to attack the media with something that isn't just conjecture, how about their insistence on plastering an innocent man's photo on national television before finding out if he was in fact one of the shooters? That's some real incompetence there.

[RandallFan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfmn0hcLWKI

Alex Jones & guests were talking about Dallas attracting the welfare queens.

[goldenequity]

Just announced: the two main suspects/shooters are in custody (alive).

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EYEWITNESS FOOTAGE:
"Shooter got out of a black Chevy Tahoe, shot officer execution-style, and walked west toward college area." #Dallas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp94gqcspT4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcZOrZAdB78

[Weston White]

This think is turning into action movie, a supposed car chase has also taken place; now there are at least 3 to 4 shooters involved?


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm0Tv-jVIAAID_e.jpg

[Petar]

Anyone who applauds this is retarded and might as well be working for the CIA.

[unknown]

Yikes...

http://i.imgur.com/RSEKyDz.png

[axiomata]

That "person of interest" is seen in a video after first shots and police response..
He is seen in the crowd.. not shooting anyone. and near police too.


If you want to attack the media with something that isn't just conjecture, how about their insistence on plastering an innocent man's photo on national television before finding out if he was in fact one of the shooters? That's some real incompetence there.

The police gave the photo to the media in a press conference and said if you see him, call 911 and we'll "bring him to justice". Not entirely the media's fault. Dallas does have an active Hewey P Newton black gun club that frequently exercises their right to open carry. Tough to be a legal gun owner and be black these days. Where's the NRA? Where's the black gun rights matter?

[Brian4Liberty]

You might as well say "only a case involving a rich white person will get people to care," but even then, I don't think these people will lose their love of authority and cops. Until the cops start targeting white communities and gunning down white children, well-off white people are going to continue worshipping the police because they see them as a personal army that protects them from the "Other."

Here's a thread about a white, Green Beret who was killed by the Police. Guess what, "white" people didn't care, and the leftist media didn't care either. It's not all about race.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?259956-Updates-on-Costco-Police-Shooting-in-Nevada

[Weston White]

America to John Walsh take your armed security service, your lame restart show "The Hunt", and just GO AWAY!

[Antischism]

Here's a thread about a white, Green Beret who was killed by the Police. Guess what, "white" people didn't care, and the leftist media didn't care either. It's not all about race.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?259956-Updates-on-Costco-Police-Shooting-in-Nevada

Of course white people didn't care. Why is that surprising? The media picks up on these stories when people actually give a shit and make noise, which the black community certainly does seeing as their communities have been terrorized by the police for as long as you can think back. Rich white people have a vested interest in propping up the police because they're afraid of the poor and minorities and value authority. The real question is, why weren't white people going out protesting en masse against the police nationwide, or making a big deal about it so it gained traction in the media? They would rather use these incidents as talking points to try diminishing the reality that yes, black people are disproportionately targeted, instead of actually pushing back against the gang in blue.

Furthermore, there are many cases involving black people that don't gain any traction in the mainstream media, either. Hell, the only reason the Trayvon Martin case garnered the attention it did was because his family fought for that attention. In this particular case, a very graphic, disturbing, heartbreaking video exploded on social media. You're playing it off like there aren't multiple factors involved when it comes to gaining media attention, and that couldn't be further from the truth.


The police gave the photo to the media in a press conference and said if you see him, call 911 and we'll "bring him to justice". Not entirely the media's fault. Dallas does have an active Hewey P Newton black gun club that frequently exercises their right to open carry. Tough to be a legal gun owner and be black these days. Where's the NRA? Where's the black gun rights matter?

Those are good questions, though I'd argue it has always been tough for black people to be legal gun owners. Reagan and the NRA certainly did their part with the Mulford Act, and slaves weren't exactly allowed to carry guns.

[TheTexan]

I will be writing my local congressmen now,,

for at least 4 statues in central down town,,

to honor these brave fallen Officers

[Brian4Liberty]

Of course white people didn't care. Why is that surprising?


I quoted you. You said "white" people won't care unless "white" people are killed.

[TheTexan]

I sure hope the police are going door to door looking for these suspects, they have to be found,,,,


at ALL costs

[AZJoe]

If you want to attack the media with something that isn't just conjecture, how about their insistence on plastering an innocent man's photo on national television before finding out if he was in fact one of the shooters? That's some real incompetence there.

Yes. I agree with your attack on the "mainstream" media for incompetence. Your attack is just one example one of many where they rush to judgment in addition to their extremely skewed bias. For other examples of not only the media’s rush to judgment but the media’s continuing to push a false narrative even in the face of indisputable overwhelming evidence to the contrary, there is the media’s runaway with the false accusations against the Duke Lacrosse team members, or the Rolling Stones Univ of Virginia “gang rape” delusion story that the media ran with that was blatantly easily verifiably false on its face, or the “mattress girl” of Columbia University where the media and University worked hand in hand. So yes, if you are looking to attack the media for rush to judgment there is a never-ending list of examples for you to use.

Now the media bias that you refer to as "just conjecture" is anything but. It is a long, continuous, and repeated pattern of recurrent bias. You'd have to either be in total willfully ignorant denial or stranded on a deserted isle not to be aware of such bias. Here are just a few very thoroughly documented research on the MSM anti-gun bias (anti-gun for citizens, not for government agents and elite that is):
http://www.davekopel.org/Media/MediaBias.htm
http://www.gunlaws.com/JohnLottMediaBias.htm
https://www.gunowners.org/sk0301.htm
http://dailyreckoning.com/bias-against-guns/

[Brian4Liberty]

You're playing it off like there aren't multiple factors involved when it comes to gaining media attention, and that couldn't be further from the truth.

Project much? You say it's all about race, I say it's not all about race. That means there are multiple "factors", more factors than race.

[libertyjam]

This think is turning into action movie, a supposed car chase has also taken place; now there are at least 3 to 4 shooters involved?


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm0Tv-jVIAAID_e.jpg



https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13606571_1049714938398890_7924517888730951195_n.pn g?oh=c4c2b0e80a26f8916eee01119f150fab&oe=57F5DB72https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13645268_1049714955065555_6566859286719555515_n.pn g?oh=b0632f34e3f8f6f40c3b55db73dea7c7&oe=57F3459D

Get it?

Too soon?

[unknown]

https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13606571_1049714938398890_7924517888730951195_n.pn g?oh=c4c2b0e80a26f8916eee01119f150fab&oe=57F5DB72https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13645268_1049714955065555_6566859286719555515_n.pn g?oh=b0632f34e3f8f6f40c3b55db73dea7c7&oe=57F3459D

Get it?

Too soon?

http://i.imgur.com/ygxrMM1.gif

[Root]

Is it time yet or is this just a distraction off Hillary?

[goldenequity]

It's not over.
3 are in custody including 1 female.
The remaining shooter is hold up in a parking garage
claiming to have planted bombs to take out more police.
They are trying to contain him and take him alive.
It's still ongoing.... they are 'clearing' areas and closing in.

This is their tactical radio communication:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRBJf7xf8T8

[Indy Vidual]

It's not over.
3 are in custody including 1 female.
The remaining shooter is hold up in a parking garage
claiming to have planted bombs to take out more police.
They are trying to contain him and take him alive.
It's still ongoing.... they are 'clearing' areas and closing in.

This is their tactical radio communication:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRBJf7xf8T8

I was just watching a live stream of Dallas TV news, and a really loud noise was heard and now no more gunshots. Some chance it was a bomb, but more likely they used a "concussion grenade" and now it is over.

[BV2]

Hmmm, too bad these two assholes decided to pop off like this. Ignorant. Also, really suspicious. Just the succession of these events... Its going to be a hot summer, yes?

Well holy fuck.

5 cops dead as of 1:47 central.

[aGameOfThrones]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuRUlqveNYg

[BV2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuRUlqveNYg

If these guys think they are guerillas, they fucked up. They handed their "enemies" an overwhelming political victory.

This is what unites the right with the left on eliminating the 2nd amendment. I'm gonna go get high and try not to think about the future.

[alucard13mm]

I would imagine police would be wearing lvl 3 body armor with a hard plate during a protests, especially a racially charged protest with high chance of violence. The shooter(s) must be a former marine or army scout sniper or something to be able to kill 5 out of 11 police that was shot. Or perhaps the shooter was picking off officers not in tactical gear.

Well whoever this shooter is.. surely does not help the 2nd amendment nor does it help the police vs black/everyone else mentality.

[Danke]

False Flag.

[bunklocoempire]

BBC World News U.S. & Canada

Lotta pics & vid

Amateur video shows a man with a rifle, hiding behind a concrete pillar and shooting (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36742835)

And I'll just leave this here-


Pointing to statistics showing African-American citizens are far more likely to be shot by police than whites, Mr Obama has called on law enforcement to root out internal bias.

THANK YOU SIR, MAY I HAVE ANOTHER!?!

What. The. Fish.

[P3ter_Griffin]

If these guys think they are guerillas, they fucked up. They handed their "enemies" an overwhelming political victory.

This is what unites the right with the left on eliminating the 2nd amendment. I'm gonna go get high and try not to think about the future.

lol. I feel like they may have given up on politics already and probably don't really care what the law says about gun ownership. Which leads us to the question, how just is the government they wish to institute?

[Todd]

5077

Guys name is Mark Hughes. Google his story. Trying to make him a patsy.

[Weston White]

...Enter the Hegelian:


Mr Obama added that "when people are armed with powerful weapons it makes attacks like these more deadly and more tragic", a subject that, he said, must be addressed in "the days ahead".

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36742835


ETA:

Strange no? Doesn't the media usually have complete profiles of the vicious suspects out by now?

[Weston White]

The facts on the issue racist police:

1. Cops killed nearly twice as many whites as blacks in 2015.
2. More whites and Hispanics die from police homicides than blacks.
3. The Post's data does show that unarmed black men are more likely to die by the gun of a cop than an unarmed white man...but this does not tell the whole story. (Read more for clarification…)
4. Black and Hispanic police officers are more likely to fire a gun at blacks than white officers.
5. Blacks are more likely to kill cops than be killed by cops.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler


A disinformation site favoring the BLM agenda: http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/

[Brian4Liberty]

Police Chief said that they killed the shooter with a "bomb". They sent in their robot with an explosive device and delivered it to the shooter.

[Schifference]

Police Chief said that they killed the shooter with a "bomb". They sent in their robot with an explosive device and delivered it to the shooter.

That sounds like an appropriate measure. Saves the taxpayer the expense and hassles of a trial. I am sure they got the right person. Even if an innocent bystander was injured and or killed the measure taken was still the correct one.

I don't think that the police or city should be responsible for fixing any damage caused by the explosion.

[angelatc]

Police Chief said that they killed the shooter with a "bomb". They sent in their robot with an explosive device and delivered it to the shooter.

Seriously? I guess long tense stand-offs are passe'.

[ghengis86]

False Flag.

Nah, not in the Sandy Hook/Pulse sense. Maybe it was professionals that did the shooting, but cops definitely died. There's plenty of streaming video and pics to confirm, unlike the Pulse shooting in Orlando, where over three hours, absolutely zero pics or video of the event made it out of that club.

[Weston White]

What are the police doing making bombs or managing bomb devices and materials?

[DGambler]

Nah, not in the Sandy Hook/Pulse sense. Maybe it was professionals that did the shooting, but cops definitely died. There's plenty of streaming video and pics to confirm, unlike the Pulse shooting in Orlando, where over three hours, absolutely zero pics or video of the event made it out of that club.

I think he meant in the sense that it won't be who or why they say it was.

Gun control rhetoric is getting ready to get ratcheted up, and sadly people who erroneously side with cops are probably going to finally be swayed. JMHO

[AuH20]

I hope they don't make these cops into heroes. This is part of the job description sadly.

[Danke]

TheTexan.Can you post videos when you attend the funeral parades?

[Danke]

I hope they don't make these cops into heroes. This is part of the job description sadly.

All cops are heroes.

[ghengis86]

BPPO claims responsibility
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-08/black-power-political-organization-takes-responsibilty-murdering-5-dallas-cops

[cajuncocoa]

//

[Danke]

Did he just threaten the President? :eek:

Walsh later explained on Twitter, early Friday morning, that, "I wasn't calling for violence, against Obama or anyone. Obama's words & BLM's deeds have gotten cops killed. Time for us to defend our cops.

[fisharmor]

You might as well say "only a case involving a rich white person will get people to care," but even then, I don't think these people will lose their love of authority and cops. Until the cops start targeting white communities and gunning down white children, well-off white people are going to continue worshipping the police because they see them as a personal army that protects them from the "Other."

The point is they already are! And as long as we're droning on about Trayvon nobody is going to know that.

[silverhandorder]

This is so clarifying. About 70% of you I want nothing to do with anymore.

There are people who are blind by ideology with no basis in reality.

[Noob]

The House is to vote to confiscate your Second Amendment rights without due process

http://www.chooseliberty.org/lynchgun-S.aspx?pid=02a

[pcosmar]

This is so clarifying. About 70% of you I want nothing to do with anymore.

There are people who are blind by ideology with no basis in reality.

Do tell Paladin,,

What ideology? and which reality?

[LibertyEagle]

I think he meant in the sense that it won't be who or why they say it was.

Gun control rhetoric is getting ready to get ratcheted up, and sadly people who erroneously side with cops are probably going to finally be swayed. JMHO

What do you mean "erroneously side with cops". Hell yes, I side with them on this massacre. Murderous thugs murdered 5 cops. Why in hell would I NOT side with them on this? Only a complete sicko would not.

It was a planned execution...

NOTE: I shouldn't have to say this, but considering the majority of who is left on this forum, I guess I need to. Siding with the cops on this incident does not mean I side with them on every case. But on this, again, only a sicko would not.

[ChristianAnarchist]

Don't want to take the side of the goon killers but this seems to be the start of what I've been dreading for many years. Riots and killings will become more and more common since certain people have been backed into a corner (impoverished blacks, other poor mostly minority groups). It's one of the laws of nature. You back an animal (we all are animals) into a corner and they will bite. Goons have been killing people without consequence for at least 30 years and now it's coming back to haunt them. Resentment is high and that will show in actions of desperate people...

If the goonerment is serious about stopping this trend they would stop this goon worship crap and put some of these killers in jail where they belong. Of course we know that will never happen so the future we have staring us in the face is warzones in the inner cities and surprise shootouts in some rural areas as these groups organize and fight back. The "expected blowback" will be more gun control bills and the eventual illegalization of all firearms. When that day comes there will be additional "terrorists"... those who wish to keep their guns...

If you've ever seriously thought about leaving the grand ole' USA now's the time. I would leave but really don't know where would be better. Maybe if the smoke clears and we wind up with less goonerment it might be worthwhile to stay here.

[ChristianAnarchist]

What do you mean "erroneously side with cops". Hell yes, I side with them on this massacre. Murderous thugs murdered 5 cops. Why in hell would I NOT side with them on this? Only a complete sicko would not.

Call me a sicko then because I DO NOT side with the goons. Yes, it's unfortunate that several men died and several families now must grieve but this is what's called "blowback" and they could have avoided the event if they had prosecuted some of these goons when they had the chance. This is NOT to say I side with the killers as I do not. I merely recognize this simple fact of life... Payback's a bitch.

Of course we are not yet at the point of Nazi Germany but I think we are quickly heading that way. At what point did it become morally just to murder Nazi officers and goons? Was it when they forced Jews to wear stars? Was it when they started to kill them in the street because they didn't "follow the rules"? Was it when they started "forced relocation"? When???

[Antischism]

http://wkrg.com/2016/07/08/deadly-ambush-on-dallas-police-heres-what-we-know/

The shooter claimed to be a U.S. Army veteran, not affiliated with anything/anyone and doesn't appear to have a criminal record. Name is Micah Xavier Johnson from Mesquite, Texas.

Do we know if it was more than one person? They have three others in custody, but we only know of this one individual being a shooter.

[Danke]

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/10463973_720553121335709_8284552002292891731_n1.jp g?quality=65&strip=all&strip=all

Killed by a robot with a bomb.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/micah-xavier-x-johnson-dallas-police-shooting-sniper-gunman-shooter-suspect-name-identified-photos-facebook-video/

[asurfaholic]

I think it's time that gun owners reconsider their positions and turn in their weapons. It is becoming obvious that guns are obviously dangerous and can kill people, so for the sake of safety it is obviously time to give up on the 2nd amendment, obviously.

And while we are at it, it's time to rework the 1st amendment to make it clear that it is NOT ok to hurt (gays) feelings and say bad things about our enforcers and politicians. It's time.

[Antischism]

Here's a video interview with the man who was erroneously labeled a suspect last night, along with his brother. Good stuff. They were getting death threats all night, sadly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zok9rk9x_s

[Noob]

NO GUN CONTROL, NO DEALS! Emergency petition to my U.S. Senators and Representative:

https://nagr.org/2016/PryanSellingout.aspx?pid=9ba

[goldenequity]

The cognitive dissonance has ALWAYS and will always be with us.
It's within Molyneux. It's within all of us.


In his 1945 "Notes on Nationalism", Orwell wrote that pacifists cannot accept the statement
"Those who 'abjure' violence can do so only because others are committing violence on their behalf.", despite it being "grossly obvious."
In an essay on Rudyard Kipling, Orwell cited Kipling's phrase "making mock of uniforms that guard you while you sleep" (Kipling, Tommy),
and further noted that Kipling's "grasp of function, of who protects whom, is very sound."
"He sees clearly that men can be highly civilized only while other men, inevitably less civilized, are there to guard and feed them." (1942)

Those that are 'writing' their emotions and feelings... anger, sorrow, disgust and anguish...
do not 'judge' them as not being 'Libertarian enough'... your own 'dispassion' might be tested one day...
and you may find yourself wanting/needing mercy and understanding.
Please... try not to judge your brother in Liberty. He's only human.
So are you. :)

[Anti Federalist]

Meh...

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?497622-Summary-Execution-at-Traffic-Stop-Falcon-Heights-Minnesota&p=6255661#post6255661

[goldenequity]

Meh...

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?497622-Summary-Execution-at-Traffic-Stop-Falcon-Heights-Minnesota&p=6255661#post6255661

I know. I get it.

[goldenequity]

Here's a video interview with the man who was erroneously labeled a suspect last night, along with his brother. Good stuff. They were getting death threats all night, sadly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zok9rk9x_s

Thanx for posting this... Good stuff... GREAT stuff!! It captures so much in just 8 minutes. Excellent.

[Anti Federalist]

Fight or Flight...


Minnesota and Texas… Worse is to Come

http://ericpetersautos.com/2016/07/07/another-good-reason-run-heroes/

by eric • July 7, 2016

I’ve “eluded” cops who came after me for the victimless crime of “speeding” because the potential consequences of pulling over have become severe enough to make it worth stomping on the gas (rather than the brakes) and leaving the porker receding (hopefully) in the rearview.

You can be jailed in my state (VA) for driving literally just a few MPH over the posted speed limit. Anything over 80, anywhere, is statutory “reckless” driving and you are subject to arrest on the spot. Even on a highway with a posted speed limit of 70 and traffic flowing – as it usually does – considerably faster than that.

The prospect of being put into a cage – and if you’re a car journalist, your professional life ruined – over something as innocuous as driving 82 or so MPH on a highway is more than enough incentive to make a run for it rather than trust that the cop (“hero,” in police state parlance) will be decent and merely leave you with a hefty fine to pay.

Now comes another reason to flee.

The shooting the other day of Minnesota motorist Philando Castile by a trigger-happy Hero Cop who had initially pulled Castile and his girlfriend over for the capital offense – as it turned out – of having a burned out tail-light.

Castile was armed – legally, according to news reports. He possessed a concealed carry permit – which for the record is something you can’t get if you have a criminal record. He reportedly so advised the Hero who had pulled him over, then proceeded to make the fatal mistake of reaching for his wallet.

Whereupon the Hero – whose name is reportedly Jeronimo Yanez – pumped four shots into Philando, who is then left to bleed out in the car while the jumpy and cursing Hero continues to level his weapon at the now rapidly expiring victim while his girlfriend – who has more control over herself than the armed and murderous Hero – sits beside him and narrates.

Here is the video, which has already gone viral:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRC0daNygbI

Update: Yesterday, several Heroes were shot in Texas, apparently by a “black lives matter” sniper. This is not Good News (get ready for North Korean-style wailing and gnashing of teeth for the “fallen” Heroes). It will almost certainly result in things getting worse – for us and them. The Heroes will become even more paranoid and trigger-happy than they already are. Probably, new laws will be passed further anointing their persons as sacred – necessarily making our persons less sacred.

It is time to have a serious conversation.

First, about this “hero” business.

Armed government workers – whose primary concern is their safety and (secondary to that) the enforcing of laws, no matter how picayune or unjust – aren’t “heroes.”

They are … armed government workers. Mercs, basically. Or a PraetorianGuard. Either or – it’s the same difference.

Heroes – real ones – put their lives on the line for the sake of other people’s lives.

Their primary concern isn’t their safety.

Do most cops fit this profile?

The truth is that our safety isn’t a priority.

Legally, it doesn’t matter at all.

The explicit job of Heroes is to enforce the law. Period. They have no legal obligation to protect us – including from themselves.

And so, they don’t.

Have been trained not to.

They have been inculcated with a sense of entitlement and a martyr complex. That non-Heroes are “skells” and worse. To be handled with gloves and Tasers (and Glocks). That we are all a “threat” to “officer safety.”

Presumptively.

Which trumps everything.

For example, this comment in the wake of the shooting of Philando Castile from TN Hero cop Anthony Venable: “Yeah, I would have done five.” That is, Venable would have shot Castille five times rather than merely four times. Just to make sure, you understand.

Until this changes, until our lives are regarded by those empowered to enforce laws as being at least as precious as theirs, it might be the smart thing to take off when you see those wig-wags. Especially if you happen to be armed – even if you have a permit.

Particularly if you have a permit, arguably.

Because in that case, your firearm will likely be concealed on your person (that’s why it’s called concealed carry) and this could be very bad news for you when the Hero notices the bulge in your waistband and screams “Gun!” and opens fire.

This is what happened to Philando Castile, who is now very much dead.

Some will think to themselves: Well, he was black and I am a white solid citizen and this would never happen to me.

Think again.

It could.

Unless the Cop Cult is deprogrammed and Americans insist on restraint, de-escalation and accountability (not paid vacation) when things such as this happen, they will continue to happen.

Perhaps to you next time.

[JK/SEA]

POL-ISIS...

[Brian4Liberty]

I think it's time that gun owners reconsider their positions and turn in their weapons. It is becoming obvious that guns are obviously dangerous and can kill people, so for the sake of safety it is obviously time to give up on the 2nd amendment, obviously.

And while we are at it, it's time to rework the 1st amendment to make it clear that it is NOT ok to hurt (gays) feelings and say bad things about our enforcers and politicians. It's time.

Judith Miller was on Fox saying that social media needs to be addressed.

[jllundqu]

Im sure the shooters were indoctrinated...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3grk-slP0LU

[JK/SEA]

cops are their own worst enemy. Until they, and the media, and copsuckers figure this out, nothing will change, and will only get worse.

[69360]

How long before it comes out the ex military shooter had ptsd and was out of his mind on ssri drugs. Almost every mass shooter is anymore.

[ChristianAnarchist]

The day is coming when we are all going to be labeled "terrorist"... (well, unless you are a cop-sucker and then you are lower than a worm anyway)...

[silverhandorder]

Combing the thread it seems that there are two principal offenders. Some posts and people I excluded giving benefit of the doubt.

I won't be replying again this is only to clarify.


What happens when someone shoots back.

No cops were shooting anyone.


It would seem they were not welcome..

or someone on over-watch put an end to shenanigans.

I can't read this like nothing other than applauding the terrorist attack. Cops not welcome? You are the guy that does not believe in police. But 99% of this forum would want cops even in anarchist society. Just anarchist type of cops. Jokes about overwatch are also in bad taste.


Here we go. People are going to try demonizing all the individuals who are peacefully protesting an important issue that we should all be fighting for, because a couple of idiots decided to start shooting at the police. Because they're more concerned about order and maintaining the status quo than protesting for justice and against police brutality. I don't wish harm on the officers, and I hope they punish the perpetrators, but I can think critically enough to understand their actions don't sully the protest or make it less important.

Individual here jumping on his anti cop pro protester tirade instead of sending condolences and acknowledging that it is NEVER ok to shoot cops supervising a demonstration.


Annndddddddd....thread.

Giving +1 to above mentioned.


Over watch ?

SMH


There to protect protestors perhaps.

The police were what was being protested,,
their presence was provocative.

Again excusing terrorism.


Is anyone surprised that people are finally taking a stand against police abuse. I am surprised it took this long actually. And I am willing to bet it will get worse before it gets better... much worse. Police will be even more jumpy, and more sniper type actions or other things will proliferate in retaliation. The militarized state and big brother will advance at a rapid rate... It is a vicious circle of death to the bottom, more than likely resulting in civil war. At the end of the day, what side will you be on? Government order and control, or rebellion against the state? It is starting folks.

Wet fantasies of rebellion.


And how are peaceful protesters responsible for this? Should they not protest? Maybe they should have shielded the cops? You must be a Trump supporter. Trump supporters are dumb as rocks.

Useful idiot giving cover to terrorism.


Chump is gonna jump all over this.

Bringing in politics. Speaking of which Trump* did not jump all over it yet. Unlike Obama.


Gun control rhetoric is getting ready to get ratcheted up, and sadly people who erroneously side with cops are probably going to finally be swayed. JMHO

More wet dreams. Gun control has a living chance in hell because people above mentioned exist and poison support for the second amendment.


It was a protest about Police Killings.

Seem some folk protest harder.

I will bet every Cop shot had a gun in his hand.
and that Cops that did not were not.

SMH

I will be writing my local congressmen now,,

for at least 4 statues in central down town,,

to honor these brave fallen Officers

Account made for mocking republicans continues to make fun in the middle of a very serious situation.


Do tell Paladin,,

What ideology? and which reality?

Ideology of ludites and anti socials that stick to liberty movement like a parasite. Reality is that when cops are being gunned down on the street we have very serious problems that first have to do with people who are providing cover for a certain slice of society.


What do you mean "erroneously side with cops". Hell yes, I side with them on this massacre. Murderous thugs murdered 5 cops. Why in hell would I NOT side with them on this? Only a complete sicko would not.

It was a planned execution...

NOTE: I shouldn't have to say this, but considering the majority of who is left on this forum, I guess I need to. Siding with the cops on this incident does not mean I side with them on every case. But on this, again, only a sicko would not.

+1


Don't want to take the side of the goon killers but this seems to be the start of what I've been dreading for many years. Riots and killings will become more and more common since certain people have been backed into a corner (impoverished blacks, other poor mostly minority groups). It's one of the laws of nature. You back an animal (we all are animals) into a corner and they will bite. Goons have been killing people without consequence for at least 30 years and now it's coming back to haunt them. Resentment is high and that will show in actions of desperate people...

If the goonerment is serious about stopping this trend they would stop this goon worship crap and put some of these killers in jail where they belong. Of course we know that will never happen so the future we have staring us in the face is warzones in the inner cities and surprise shootouts in some rural areas as these groups organize and fight back. The "expected blowback" will be more gun control bills and the eventual illegalization of all firearms. When that day comes there will be additional "terrorists"... those who wish to keep their guns...

If you've ever seriously thought about leaving the grand ole' USA now's the time. I would leave but really don't know where would be better. Maybe if the smoke clears and we wind up with less goonerment it might be worthwhile to stay here.

Cops are goons. A day after 12 cops get gunned down. Terrible state of mind.

[jonhowe]

Combing the thread it seems that there are two principal offenders. Some posts and people I excluded giving benefit of the doubt.

I won't be replying again this is only to clarify.



No cops were shooting anyone.



I can't read this like nothing other than applauding the terrorist attack. Cops not welcome? You are the guy that does not believe in police. But 99% of this forum would want cops even in anarchist society. Just anarchist type of cops. Jokes about overwatch are also in bad taste.



Individual here jumping on his anti cop pro protester tirade instead of sending condolences and acknowledging that it is NEVER ok to shoot cops supervising a demonstration.



Giving +1 to above mentioned.



SMH



Again excusing terrorism.



Wet fantasies of rebellion.



Useful idiot giving cover to terrorism.



Bringing in politics. Speaking of which Trump* did not jump all over it yet. Unlike Obama.



More wet dreams. Gun control has a living chance in hell because people above mentioned exist and poison support for the second amendment.



SMH


Account made for mocking republicans continues to make fun in the middle of a very serious situation.



Ideology of ludites and anti socials that stick to liberty movement like a parasite. Reality is that when cops are being gunned down on the street we have very serious problems that first have to do with people who are providing cover for a certain slice of society.



+1



Cops are goons. A day after 12 cops get gunned down. Terrible state of mind.



But, didn't Ron Paul preach that we should encourage cycles of violence? Didn't he call for a violent uprising against progressive police departments with good/improving civil rights records? :rolleyes:


It's sad that people on here can't aknowledge the existence of victims on ALL sides of an issue. The 'group think' is also disturbing; the idea that shooting these random cops is somehow retribution for the bad actions of OTHER cops is just insane.

[Cissy]

Lord, forgive us.

The statists have murdered, and criminal statists have murdered to tarnish a peaceful protest. Both seek to increase the power of the State; which demands a blood sacrifice to meet its ends.

Lord, you require mercy, not sacrifice.

Turn to the Lord; not the State. For the state cares not who she devours but the Lord would gather the wounded and mourning to Himself.

Do justice, love mercy. Walk humbly with your God.

[ChristianAnarchist]

Cops are goons. A day after 12 cops get gunned down. Terrible state of mind.

A day after and every day leading up to and every day from here on out until they stop gooning people (I'm not holding my breath). Using the proper language is important to understanding. Calling goons "cops" or "law enforcement personal" or any other such "respectable" term distorts reality. The reality is that they are goons - part of a goon squad. Their "purpose" is to protect the powers that be (criminal element) and NOT to "protect the public". It's been proven by many so-called "court" decisions that they have NO obligation to protect the public and their actions follow suit.

This is why even after some of them get killed and their families mourn (I stated in my posts that I certainly don't support this kind of action and I do grieve for all senseless death) they will still always be "goons" for the "goonerment". You have to use correct language...

[Anti Federalist]

It's sad that people on here can't aknowledge the existence of victims on ALL sides of an issue. The 'group think' is also disturbing; the idea that shooting these random cops is somehow retribution for the bad actions of OTHER cops is just insane.

It's a war, so theye say.

Some of us have been screeching about how dangerous this is, for years now.

Theye have gone to a war footing, theye address themselves as warriors, theye arm themselves as warriors, theye call us "civilians", theye train as warriors, theye conduct themselves as being in a war zone.

Well, in war, people usually shoot back, and they usually shoot back at a time and place and target that is "inconvenient" to the other side.

Don't blame me and call me insane for pointing out the obvious, that I have been warning about to the point of making myself sick over it, for all these years.

Blame the fucking people that declared "war on us".

[heavenlyboy34]

But, didn't Ron Paul preach that we should encourage cycles of violence? Didn't he call for a violent uprising against progressive police departments with good/improving civil rights records? :rolleyes:


It's sad that people on here can't aknowledge the existence of victims on ALL sides of an issue. The 'group think' is also disturbing; the idea that shooting these random cops is somehow retribution for the bad actions of OTHER cops is just insane.
I too disagree with shooting cops without proof they merit it. But keep in mind they declared war on us first. They lack the capacity to police themselves. However wrong, it is within reason for people to see the strong threat cops pose and do what they feel is how they can fight back. Far less brutality against the mundane class has caused violent revolution and uprising in 'Murica and elsewhere.

[Created4]

How long before it comes out the ex military shooter had ptsd and was out of his mind on ssri drugs. Almost every mass shooter is anymore.

Maybe "out of his mind" but controlled "out of mind." No way this happens with a single shooter, but this one will become the scapegoat, and of course nobody will be able to interview him or put him on trial to reveal what connections he had to those who may have been controlling him with drugs.

[twomp]

Combing the thread it seems that there are two principal offenders. Some posts and people I excluded giving benefit of the doubt.

I won't be replying again this is only to clarify.



No cops were shooting anyone.



I can't read this like nothing other than applauding the terrorist attack. Cops not welcome? You are the guy that does not believe in police. But 99% of this forum would want cops even in anarchist society. Just anarchist type of cops. Jokes about overwatch are also in bad taste.



Individual here jumping on his anti cop pro protester tirade instead of sending condolences and acknowledging that it is NEVER ok to shoot cops supervising a demonstration.



Giving +1 to above mentioned.



SMH



Again excusing terrorism.



Wet fantasies of rebellion.



Useful idiot giving cover to terrorism.



Bringing in politics. Speaking of which Trump* did not jump all over it yet. Unlike Obama.



More wet dreams. Gun control has a living chance in hell because people above mentioned exist and poison support for the second amendment.



SMH


Account made for mocking republicans continues to make fun in the middle of a very serious situation.



Ideology of ludites and anti socials that stick to liberty movement like a parasite. Reality is that when cops are being gunned down on the street we have very serious problems that first have to do with people who are providing cover for a certain slice of society.



+1



Cops are goons. A day after 12 cops get gunned down. Terrible state of mind.

You are the moron here with knee jerk reaction to blame the protesters for the actions of some lunatic. You are too stupid too separate the two. Kind of how the media likes to blame guns when some crazy guy shoots up a school. You are a Trump supporter after all and being stupid is what Trump supporters excel at.

[Created4]

I too disagree with shooting cops without proof they merit it.

This was an execution. While the mainstream media goes all out investigating the shooter, who now can never be interviewed, will anyone investigate the police who were shot? Why were they singled out for execution? That is what should be investigated, but I doubt anyone will, at least not in the media.

[wizardwatson]

Maybe "out of his mind" but controlled "out of mind." No way this happens with a single shooter, but this one will become the scapegoat, and of course nobody will be able to interview him or put him on trial to reveal what connections he had to those who may have been controlling him with drugs.

He's an Afghanistan war vet. Cops were caught off guard, he'd been preparing, tactically and psychologically, they were sucker punched. I saw him maneuver in that video where he shot the cop on the other side of the pillar. He was in the zone. Probably knew he would die. Cops were probably all pissing their pants.

[pcosmar]

Cops are goons.
that is the only point I agree on.

Police should not exist in a free society..

Their existence is proof that this is not a Free Society.

we live in an Authoritarian Police State.

[pcosmar]

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/10463973_720553121335709_8284552002292891731_n1.jp g?quality=65&strip=all&strip=all

Killed by a robot with a bomb.


because that's how cowards roll.

[heavenlyboy34]

This was an execution. While the mainstream media goes all out investigating the shooter, who now can never be interviewed, will anyone investigate the police who were shot? Why were they singled out for execution? That is what should be investigated, but I doubt anyone will, at least not in the media.
ATM, I agree with all this. ~hugs~

[jonhowe]

I too disagree with shooting cops without proof they merit it. But keep in mind they declared war on us first. They lack the capacity to police themselves. However wrong, it is within reason for people to see the strong threat cops pose and do what they feel is how they can fight back. Far less brutality against the mundane class has caused violent revolution and uprising in 'Murica and elsewhere.

"They" declared war on "us"? The dead cops did? All cops did? What's with the group mentality on these boards lately??

And to my knowledge no cop has declared war on me, so I don't know where you get "us" from, unless you have a mouse in your pocket.



Police DO tend to lack the power to police themselves. A decade of protests and speech, though, has begun to change that. More states use independant investigators. More cops where body cams, and they are tending to "break down" less and less often. This shooting turns the cops back into victims instead of the ones who should be under pressure to change. Victims tend to lash out, and not always just against those who harm them (SEE; 9/11).

[pcosmar]

Judith Miller was on Fox saying that social media needs to be addressed.

can't have people speaking out against their controllers.

[pcosmar]

(SEE; 9/11).

Excrement.

[enhanced_deficit]

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/10463973_720553121335709_8284552002292891731_n1.jp g?quality=65&strip=all&strip=all

Killed by a robot with a bomb.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/micah-xavier-x-johnson-dallas-police-shooting-sniper-gunman-shooter-suspect-name-identified-photos-facebook-video/


Looks like another of US Foreign Policy tactic is coming home :


On Thursday (July 7), a suspect involved in the fatal shooting of five police officers during a Black Lives Matter protest in Dallas was himself killed by police using a robot outfitted with a bomb.

The US government has been using automated machines to take out targets for years—think drone strikes in the Middle East. Last year, North Dakota even became the first state to legalize police officers’ use of drones fitted with weapons such as tasers and pepper spray.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/misc/poll_posticon.gif Poll: BLM shooting suspect killed by robot; do you support robots/drones use to kill suspects? (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?497684-BLM-shooting-suspect-killed-by-robot-do-you-support-robots-drones-use-to-kill-suspects&)





Hopefully POTUS Obama won't start cracking jokes about Police robot drone kills for comedic purposes at remaining WH correspondence dinners.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4




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[Todd]

There are several issues at play here:

1. Perpetuate the racial divide.

2. Sympathy for Authority

3. Those damn Guns

Remember what's at stake and who benefits. Hint: It ain't the little people.

[Carlybee]

Took the attention off Hillary's email.

[enhanced_deficit]

Took the attention off Hillary's email.

Most likely it is accidental co-incidence (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?497650-Clinton-scandal-dstraction-Obama-team-could-push-Benghazi-quot-video-quot-drone-race-card-headlines&).

[heavenlyboy34]

"They" declared war on "us"? The dead cops did? All cops did? What's with the group mentality on these boards lately??

And to my knowledge no cop has declared war on me, so I don't know where you get "us" from, unless you have a mouse in your pocket.



Police DO tend to lack the power to police themselves. A decade of protests and speech, though, has begun to change that. More states use independant investigators. More cops where body cams, and they are tending to "break down" less and less often. This shooting turns the cops back into victims instead of the ones who should be under pressure to change. Victims tend to lash out, and not always just against those who harm them (SEE; 9/11).

The "War On Crime" is common knowlege around here which I assume people to have. You have to catch up:

http://time.com/3746059/war-on-crime-history/
Fifty years after it began, the initiative has brought America to a crossroads
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Fifty years ago this month, President Lyndon B. Johnson called for a “War on Crime,” a declaration that ushered in a new era of American law enforcement. Johnson’s turn toward crime control as a federal priority remains his most enduring legacy—even more than the Great Society programs that scholars often herald as his greatest achievement—and continues to shape what is arguably the most important social crisis the United States now faces.
Until recently, the devastating outcomes of the War on Crime that Johnson began had gone relatively unnoticed. Then, last August, during the series of demonstrations in Ferguson, Mo., images of law-enforcement authorities drawing M-4 carbine rifles and dropping tear gas bombs on protestors and civilians alike shocked (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/militarized-police-in-ferguson-unsettles-some-pentagon-gives-cities-equipment/2014/08/14/4651f670-2401-11e4-86ca-6f03cbd15c1a_story.html) much (http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/world-report/2014/08/22/ferguson-missouri-shows-police-militarization-in-america-must-end) of the American public. Ferguson looked like a war zone. Many commentators (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/08/14/the-pentagon-gave-nearly-half-a-billion-dollars-of-military-gear-to-local-law-enforcement-last-year/) attributed (http://www.newsweek.com/how-americas-police-became-army-1033-program-264537) this sight to the ongoing technology transfers from the defense sector to local law-enforcement authorities, which began during the War on Drugs and escalated in the climate of the War on Terror.

But the source of those armored cars is much older than that. It was the Law Enforcement Assistance Act that Johnson presented to Congress on March 8, 1965, that first established a direct role for the federal government in local police operations, court systems, and state prisons. Even though the Voting Rights Act is considered the major policy victory of that year, Johnson himself hoped (http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=27110) that 1965 would be remembered not as the apex of American liberal reform, but rather as “the year when this country began a thorough, intelligent, and effective war against crime.”
President Johnson saw the urban policeman as the “frontline soldier” of this mission, and, as a result, the administration focused on building the weapons arsenal of local law enforcement. The 1965 legislation created a grant-making agency within the Department of Justice, which—with $30 million at its disposal, or $223 million in today’s dollars—purchased bulletproof vests, helicopters, tanks, rifles, gas masks and other military-grade hardware for police departments. Like the Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles driven first in Iraq and then in Ferguson, much of this equipment had been used by the military in Vietnam and Latin America.
Those programs culminated in the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968, the last major piece of domestic legislation Johnson passed, which gave the Department of Justice a new degree of influence over social policy by enlarging the grant-making agency into the Law Enforcement Assistance Administration. In contrast, the Office of Economic Opportunity at the Center of the War on Poverty never grew into a more permanent agency. Over time, national policymakers retreated from and eventually dismantled many of the social welfare programs of the Great Society; the War on Crime, on the other hand, became the foremost policy approach to the social and demographic challenges of the late twentieth century.
Indeed, federal law-enforcement programs have expanded rapidly over the past five decades. Despite the misconception that the Reagan administration spearheaded the rise of urban surveillance and mass incarceration, federal policymakers had already dedicated a total of $7 billion in taxpayer dollars (roughly $20 billion today) to crime-control programs before Reagan took office in 1981. The most recent available figures from the Bureau of Justice Assistance indicate that federal officials have sustained these funding commitments, appropriating well over $1 billion annually to law enforcement programs at the state and local level.
Law enforcement and criminal justice remain at the heart of the nation’s economic and social programs. That fact began to change life for many Americans well before the attention it got in the last year. For example, in Detroit in the early 1970s, officers of a decoy squad known as STRESS (an acronym for “Stop the Robberies, Enjoy Safe Streets”) killed 17 African American civilians—the vast majority unarmed—during its two years of operation. If the “War on Crime” was meant to be a useful metaphor that would spur policymakers into action, it quickly evolved into what resembled an actual war.
And it’s never been a matter of policing alone. Proximity to the expanding punitive arm of the federal government puts citizens, often low-income urban Americans, in close contact with the criminal justice system. Federal grants were tied to arrest rates, encouraging more apprehensions in those neighborhoods that had been explicitly targeted for special law-enforcement programs. New sentencing guidelines and criminal categories emerged that increased the chance that men and women from these same communities would serve long sentences in prison. In turn, the penal confinement of disproportionate numbers of young African American men during the 1970s often transformed first-time offenders and drug addicts into hardened criminals. Even Richard Nixon referred (http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=3245) to prisons as “colleges of crime.”
Although the Johnson administration had created a blueprint for a national crime-control program to improve American society, the long-term impact of the shift toward surveillance and confinement has brought our nation to a fiscal and moral crossroads.
Last year marked the 50th anniversary of Johnson’s call for a “War on Poverty” in his first State of the Union address. Yet, according to Census Bureau estimates (http://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/p60-249.pdf), the poverty rate today is equivalent to its rate in the mid-1960s. This year, with the 50th anniversary of the War on Crime upon us, and with #BlackLivesMatter and other movements against justice disparities gaining momentum, we should include the implications of this less understood dimension of the Great Society in our reconsiderations of the past.
In order to move forward as a nation we must come to terms with the reality that the programs unleashed by the War on Crime a half-century ago have overshadowed much of the War on Poverty’s social promise. President Johnson could not have foreseen the unintended consequences of the path he set in motion. But what is perhaps the central irony of the late 20th century is that one of the most idealistic enterprises in the history of the United States has left a legacy of crime, incarceration and inequality.

[heavenlyboy34]

My brother AF has loads more info at his fingertips for you if you want it.

[Thor]

Is anyone surprised that people are finally taking a stand against police abuse. I am surprised it took this long actually. And I am willing to bet it will get worse before it gets better... much worse. Police will be even more jumpy, and more sniper type actions or other things will proliferate in retaliation. The militarized state and big brother will advance at a rapid rate... It is a vicious circle of death to the bottom, more than likely resulting in civil war. At the end of the day, what side will you be on? Government order and control, or rebellion against the state? It is starting folks.




Wet fantasies of rebellion.



Authorities: Highway Gunman Motivated by Police Shootings

A man accused of shooting indiscriminately at passing cars and police on a Tennessee (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/tennessee.htm) highway told investigators he was angry about police violence against African-Americans, authorities said Friday.

One woman died and three others, including one police officer, were injured in the rampage.

The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation said in a news release that initial conversations with the suspect, 37-year-old Lakeem Keon Scott, revealed he was troubled by several incidents across the U.S.

Scott, who is black, was wounded in the shootout with police, remains hospitalized and has not yet been charged. All those shot were white, police confirmed.

The announcement comes just hours after 12 officers were shot at a Black Lives Matter protest in Dallas by a man who police say declared he was angry about police shootings of black men and wanted to exterminate whites. Five of the officers died.

The shooting spree in Tennessee began around 2:20 a.m. Thursday.

The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation alleges Scott — armed with an assault rifle, a pistol and a large amount of ammunition — fired shots through the window of the Days Inn on Volunteer Parkway.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/authorities-highway-gunman-motivated-police-shootings-40441360
(http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/authorities-highway-gunman-motivated-police-shootings-40441360)
(http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/authorities-highway-gunman-motivated-police-shootings-40441360)

[jonhowe]

My brother AF has loads more info at his fingertips for you if you want it.

I'm well aware of police abuses and failed national anti-crime efforts. You're still grouping people, though.

Did THOSE cops declare war on ME? Did they declare war on the shooter? Who is it open season to shoot, these days?

Is it OK for me to kill ANY muslim because some have declared Jihad on the west? Is it OK for Christians to kill ANY ACLU lawyer because of their supposed "war on christmas"? If not, how is it excuseable to kill ANY cop because of the actions of others? Human lives are not fungible. Killing, even out of 'blow back'', begets more killing. See: all of history.

[Brian4Liberty]

All those shot were white, police confirmed.

Obama's chickens have come home to roost.

[jonhowe]

Excrement.

So on 9/11 there were NO victims who lashed out against people who DIDN'T harm them? I don't care what version of events you believe occurred on 9/11: The United States did NOT attack/punish/focus on/etc the people who perpetrated 9/11. Please show me where I'm so wrong in this as to deserve the neg rep...

[heavenlyboy34]

I'm well aware of police abuses and failed national anti-crime efforts. You're still grouping people, though.

Did THOSE cops declare war on ME? Did they declare war on the shooter? Who is it open season to shoot, these days?

Is it OK for me to kill ANY muslim because some have declared Jihad on the west? Is it OK for Christians to kill ANY ACLU lawyer because of their supposed "war on christmas"? If not, how is it excuseable to kill ANY cop because of the actions of others? Human lives are not fungible. Killing, even out of 'blow back'', begets more killing. See: all of history.
You didn't see me justify it, bro-and I won't (I happen to know a good fella who's a cop). But the fact is that soldiers all look alike in war and/or occupation. (Arab muslims-not all arabs are muslim and vice versa, FYI-don't dress like soliders and don't all look alike)

Also, FYI, cops do in factgroup themselves. It's called "The Brotherhood"/"The Fraternal Order" for a reason.

[Thor]

All those shot were white, police confirmed.


Obama's chickens have come home to roost.


Not sure how credible this is:


Exclusive: Group Claiming Responsibility for Dallas, “We Want to Punish Them for Punishing Us”

A group calling itself the Black Power Political Organization has claimed responsibility for the murders of five police officers and the wounding of six more in a sniper attack in Dallas on Thursday night.


http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/bbop2-Copy-Copy-Copy.jpg (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/bbop2-Copy-Copy-Copy.jpg)


Though the organization’s Facebook Page was removed shortly after the incident, The Free Thought Project contacted them via their Jamaican phone number for a statement and to verify a post prominently displayed on the page, which read,

“#BlackPower! #BlackKnights! Sniper Assassins Take Down Five Police Officers! And More Will Be Assassinated In The Coming Days! Do You Like The Work Of Our Assassins? Get Out Your Sniper Rifle And Join Our Thousands Of Sniper Assassins Worldwide In The Fight Against Oppression!”

A spokesperson for the organization confirmed that statement.

When asked by the Free Thought Project whether the group did, in fact, take responsibility for the Dallas shootings, he replied they did. Asked whether it was indeed true more such incidents were planned, he replied, “Yes.”

Asked if the shooting in Dallas and future such planned attacks were in retaliation for police shooting or targeting black people, the spokesman replied,

“Well, for a number of reasons, but we want to punish them […] for punishing us.”

Asked if, as the Facebook page suggested, more attacks like the one in Dallas are being planned, he replied,

“Yes. That’s definitely the case. I mean, they [implying the police] have been punishing black people.”

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/577f9722c361883e108b4588.jpg
(http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/577f9722c361883e108b4588.jpg)
According to the group’s now-removed page, it seeks to establish a “United States of Africa,” encouraging followers to “Free yourself from white men” and “Free Africa from western and non-black people control.”

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/bbop.jpg
(http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/bbop.jpg)
The group also claims to have spies working inside the FBI, CIA, police, and that include soldiers, and that they cannot be stopped because they are financed by the same people who finance those organizations and “other foreign leaders.”

On Thursday evening, snipers took up strategic positions during a Black Lives Matter protest in downtown Dallas, and began targeting police once the rally got underway.

Amid the chaos and panic as shots began ringing out, eleven police officers were hit, five fatally. Only one civilian was injured by gunfire, according to reports.

With more rallies planned nationwide to protest the epidemic of police violence, coupled with the ominous confirmation from the spokesman that similar attacks are planned, it’s possible we can expect a repeat of what happened in Dallas in the coming days.

It is important to note that senseless violence like this group claims to have carried out, is not a solution. It will only serve to stoke divide, increase the police state, and lay waste to innocent lives. This group is no better than ISIS.


http://thefreethoughtproject.com/group-claims-responsibility-dallas-shooting/

(http://thefreethoughtproject.com/group-claims-responsibility-dallas-shooting/)
Probably just opportunist spouting off...

[goldenequity]

Not sure how credible this is:
...................................
Probably just opportunist spouting off...

I don't think so.... the shooter is on the right. Looks pretty serious.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/07/03/gunman%20dallas.jpg

[69360]

Most likely it is accidental co-incidence (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?497650-Clinton-scandal-dstraction-Obama-team-could-push-Benghazi-quot-video-quot-drone-race-card-headlines&).

The Clintons have a lot of lucky coincidences. Bill started bombing the Serbs to take attention off him getting caught banging Monica.

[BV2]

Sniper assassins? Whatever happened in Dallas wasn't that. Hilarious, this group has to be a troll.

[Anti Federalist]

I'm well aware of police abuses and failed national anti-crime efforts. You're still grouping people, though.

Did THOSE cops declare war on ME? Did they declare war on the shooter? Who is it open season to shoot, these days?

Is it OK for me to kill ANY muslim because some have declared Jihad on the west? Is it OK for Christians to kill ANY ACLU lawyer because of their supposed "war on christmas"? If not, how is it excuseable to kill ANY cop because of the actions of others? Human lives are not fungible. Killing, even out of 'blow back'', begets more killing. See: all of history.

Who said anything about it being OK?

I'm telling you how it is.

Whether you choose to accept that or not is up to you.

Yeah, so I "group people".

I see a gang banger coming toward me I'm going to avoid him.

Same thing if I see a cop approaching me.

Given the disagreeable possibilities of an encounter with either I'm not prepared to risk my life or freedom to test my special snowflake skills.

[alucard13mm]

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/577f9722c361883e108b4588.jpg
(http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/577f9722c361883e108b4588.jpg)
According to the group’s now-removed page, it seeks to establish a “United States of Africa,” encouraging followers to “Free yourself from white men” and “Free Africa from western and non-black people control.”

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/bbop.jpg
(http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/bbop.jpg)


No offense to anyone, but United States of Africa... I would move out just because it would most likely be a poo-hole. Turn it into another South Africa or Zimbabwe where they drive away all the caucasians and now they are starving, crime infested and rape capital of the world.

As I said before.. western/caucasian countries are the most stable and prosperous, when demographics change.. it will degrade ;s.

[phill4paul]

Fight or Flight...


Minnesota and Texas… Worse is to Come

http://ericpetersautos.com/2016/07/07/another-good-reason-run-heroes/

by eric • July 7, 2016

I’ve “eluded” cops who came after me for the victimless crime of “speeding” because the potential consequences of pulling over have become severe enough to make it worth stomping on the gas (rather than the brakes) and leaving the porker receding (hopefully) in the rearview.

You can be jailed in my state (VA) for driving literally just a few MPH over the posted speed limit. Anything over 80, anywhere, is statutory “reckless” driving and you are subject to arrest on the spot. Even on a highway with a posted speed limit of 70 and traffic flowing – as it usually does – considerably faster than that.

The prospect of being put into a cage – and if you’re a car journalist, your professional life ruined – over something as innocuous as driving 82 or so MPH on a highway is more than enough incentive to make a run for it rather than trust that the cop (“hero,” in police state parlance) will be decent and merely leave you with a hefty fine to pay.

Now comes another reason to flee.

The shooting the other day of Minnesota motorist Philando Castile by a trigger-happy Hero Cop who had initially pulled Castile and his girlfriend over for the capital offense – as it turned out – of having a burned out tail-light.

Castile was armed – legally, according to news reports. He possessed a concealed carry permit – which for the record is something you can’t get if you have a criminal record. He reportedly so advised the Hero who had pulled him over, then proceeded to make the fatal mistake of reaching for his wallet.

Whereupon the Hero – whose name is reportedly Jeronimo Yanez – pumped four shots into Philando, who is then left to bleed out in the car while the jumpy and cursing Hero continues to level his weapon at the now rapidly expiring victim while his girlfriend – who has more control over herself than the armed and murderous Hero – sits beside him and narrates.

Here is the video, which has already gone viral:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRC0daNygbI

Update: Yesterday, several Heroes were shot in Texas, apparently by a “black lives matter” sniper. This is not Good News (get ready for North Korean-style wailing and gnashing of teeth for the “fallen” Heroes). It will almost certainly result in things getting worse – for us and them. The Heroes will become even more paranoid and trigger-happy than they already are. Probably, new laws will be passed further anointing their persons as sacred – necessarily making our persons less sacred.

It is time to have a serious conversation.

First, about this “hero” business.

Armed government workers – whose primary concern is their safety and (secondary to that) the enforcing of laws, no matter how picayune or unjust – aren’t “heroes.”

They are … armed government workers. Mercs, basically. Or a PraetorianGuard. Either or – it’s the same difference.

Heroes – real ones – put their lives on the line for the sake of other people’s lives.

Their primary concern isn’t their safety.

Do most cops fit this profile?

The truth is that our safety isn’t a priority.

Legally, it doesn’t matter at all.

The explicit job of Heroes is to enforce the law. Period. They have no legal obligation to protect us – including from themselves.

And so, they don’t.

Have been trained not to.

They have been inculcated with a sense of entitlement and a martyr complex. That non-Heroes are “skells” and worse. To be handled with gloves and Tasers (and Glocks). That we are all a “threat” to “officer safety.”

Presumptively.

Which trumps everything.

For example, this comment in the wake of the shooting of Philando Castile from TN Hero cop Anthony Venable: “Yeah, I would have done five.” That is, Venable would have shot Castille five times rather than merely four times. Just to make sure, you understand.

Until this changes, until our lives are regarded by those empowered to enforce laws as being at least as precious as theirs, it might be the smart thing to take off when you see those wig-wags. Especially if you happen to be armed – even if you have a permit.

Particularly if you have a permit, arguably.

Because in that case, your firearm will likely be concealed on your person (that’s why it’s called concealed carry) and this could be very bad news for you when the Hero notices the bulge in your waistband and screams “Gun!” and opens fire.

This is what happened to Philando Castile, who is now very much dead.

Some will think to themselves: Well, he was black and I am a white solid citizen and this would never happen to me.

Think again.

It could.

Unless the Cop Cult is deprogrammed and Americans insist on restraint, de-escalation and accountability (not paid vacation) when things such as this happen, they will continue to happen.

Perhaps to you next time.

If I win this damn lotto one of the first purchases will be an armor plated muscle car. ;)

[P3ter_Griffin]

Not sure how credible this is:


Exclusive: Group Claiming Responsibility for Dallas, “We Want to Punish Them for Punishing Us”

A group calling itself the Black Power Political Organization has claimed responsibility for the murders of five police officers and the wounding of six more in a sniper attack in Dallas on Thursday night.


http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/bbop2-Copy-Copy-Copy.jpg (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/bbop2-Copy-Copy-Copy.jpg)


Though the organization’s Facebook Page was removed shortly after the incident, The Free Thought Project contacted them via their Jamaican phone number for a statement and to verify a post prominently displayed on the page, which read,

“#BlackPower! #BlackKnights! Sniper Assassins Take Down Five Police Officers! And More Will Be Assassinated In The Coming Days! Do You Like The Work Of Our Assassins? Get Out Your Sniper Rifle And Join Our Thousands Of Sniper Assassins Worldwide In The Fight Against Oppression!”

A spokesperson for the organization confirmed that statement.

When asked by the Free Thought Project whether the group did, in fact, take responsibility for the Dallas shootings, he replied they did. Asked whether it was indeed true more such incidents were planned, he replied, “Yes.”

Asked if the shooting in Dallas and future such planned attacks were in retaliation for police shooting or targeting black people, the spokesman replied,

“Well, for a number of reasons, but we want to punish them […] for punishing us.”

Asked if, as the Facebook page suggested, more attacks like the one in Dallas are being planned, he replied,

“Yes. That’s definitely the case. I mean, they [implying the police] have been punishing black people.”

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/577f9722c361883e108b4588.jpg
(http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/577f9722c361883e108b4588.jpg)
According to the group’s now-removed page, it seeks to establish a “United States of Africa,” encouraging followers to “Free yourself from white men” and “Free Africa from western and non-black people control.”

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/bbop.jpg
(http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/bbop.jpg)
The group also claims to have spies working inside the FBI, CIA, police, and that include soldiers, and that they cannot be stopped because they are financed by the same people who finance those organizations and “other foreign leaders.”

On Thursday evening, snipers took up strategic positions during a Black Lives Matter protest in downtown Dallas, and began targeting police once the rally got underway.

Amid the chaos and panic as shots began ringing out, eleven police officers were hit, five fatally. Only one civilian was injured by gunfire, according to reports.

With more rallies planned nationwide to protest the epidemic of police violence, coupled with the ominous confirmation from the spokesman that similar attacks are planned, it’s possible we can expect a repeat of what happened in Dallas in the coming days.

It is important to note that senseless violence like this group claims to have carried out, is not a solution. It will only serve to stoke divide, increase the police state, and lay waste to innocent lives. This group is no better than ISIS.


http://thefreethoughtproject.com/group-claims-responsibility-dallas-shooting/

(http://thefreethoughtproject.com/group-claims-responsibility-dallas-shooting/)
Probably just opportunist spouting off...

Dang they should group up with the alt-right, they sound like two peas in a pod.

That it says assassins makes me think it is a hoax. Last night it was believed there was 3 or 4 shooters and from what I have gathered is it was only one individual?

[pcosmar]

So on 9/11 there were NO victims who lashed out against people who DIDN'T harm them? I don't care what version of events you believe occurred on 9/11: The United States did NOT attack/punish/focus on/etc the people who perpetrated 9/11. Please show me where I'm so wrong in this as to deserve the neg rep...

None of the perpetrators of 911 were ever arrested.. or even investigated.

NO One targeted those responsible.. we (the US) attacked innocent people..

[Weston White]

Question: Why is when police personnel are shot they are immediately taken lights and sirens to the nearest hospital in a marked police vehicle or ambulance, along with a full motorcade--with the hospital staff placed on full-alert, staged at the ER ambulance bay for their arrival--yet when somebody is shot by the police, they are literally and in virtually every instance, left their to just die (handcuffed) on the ground?

ETA:

The double standard that comes along with neo-feudalism?

[AuH20]

I don't think so.... the shooter is on the right. Looks pretty serious.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/07/03/gunman%20dallas.jpg

That is Professor Griff on the left.

[pcosmar]

Who is it open season to shoot, these days?


That is a decision everyone will have to make. as well as who to trust.

[pcosmar]

Question:

I have debated you before Weston,, but you are asking the right question.

[phill4paul]

Question: Why is when police personnel are shot they are immediately taken lights and sirens to the nearest hospital in a marked police vehicle or ambulance, along with a full motorcade--with the hospital staff placed on full-alert, staged at the ER ambulance bay for their arrival--yet when somebody is shot by the police, they are literally and in virtually every instance, left their to just die (handcuffed) on the ground?

ETA:

The double standard that comes along with neo-feudalism?

File under "Disparities State Supporters NEVER see."

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Weston White again.

[Pauls' Revere]

This is so clarifying. About 70% of you I want nothing to do with anymore.

There are people who are blind by ideology with no basis in reality.

would you create a poll question please. I'm interested in what it would be and the results of it.

[pcosmar]

Time for us to defend our cops.

That has been the Republican position,, all the way back to Nixon from my memory.

More tools,, More Cops , More Jails ,, more Money
And the Democrats build their Unions.

[phill4paul]

That has been the Republican position,, all the way back to Nixon from my memory.

More tools,, More Cops , More Jails ,, more Money
And the Democrats build their Unions.

Ain't it funny how cops aren't the Union busters they were created to be anymore?

[heavenlyboy34]

That has been the Republican position,, all the way back to Nixon from my memory.

More tools,, More Cops , More Jails ,, more Money
And the Democrats build their Unions.
+rep I have no memory of things NOT being like that. :( This is part of how They destroy liberty-each generation has fewer memories of liberty and the yongsters are shocked by "return" to liberty due to its "discomfort". :P

[pcosmar]

Ain't it funny how cops aren't the Union busters they were created to be anymore?

Just one of the roles Enforcers have played.

[heavenlyboy34]

Ain't it funny how cops aren't the Union busters they were created to be anymore?

When were they union busters? Never heard of this... :confused:

[phill4paul]

When were they union busters? Never heard of this... :confused:


The only effective political strategy available to exploited workers was what economic elites referred to as "rioting," which was actually a primitive form of what would become union strikes against employers (Silver 1967). The modern police force not only provided an organized, centralized body of men (and they were all male) legally authorized to use force to maintain order, it also provided the illusion that this order was being maintained under the rule of law, not at the whim of those with economic power.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?469181-The-History-of-Policing-in-the-United-States

[enhanced_deficit]

That has been the Republican position,, all the way back to Nixon from my memory.

More tools,, More Cops , More Jails ,, more Money
And the Democrats build their Unions.

Democrats like Hillary Clinton also did their part to expand US prison complex and to bring "superpredators to heel":

http://lybio.net/wp-content/uploads/Hillary-Clinton-Black-Lives-Matter-Activist-Not-A-Superpredator.jpg

Ice Cube: Hillary Clinton Helped ‘Justify’ a War on Black People (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?493995-Ice-Cube-Hillary-Clinton-Helped-%E2%80%98Justify%E2%80%99-a-War-on-Black-People&)

[BV2]

Pig will soon become another career ending word.

[pcosmar]

Pig will soon become another career ending word.

not here.

[pcosmar]

When were they union busters? Never heard of this... :confused:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre

also the beginning of Spin Doctors (public relations)

[BV2]

What happened to the guys loading duffel bags into a mercedes? I remember reports of this

[UWDude]

Look at you little idealist wimps, crying for peace. Bemoaning the death of any human. Prepare for more despair, if you think this country can be saved. I told you all, Occupy was your last chance.

America is damned to hell. It will burn itself to death in hatred, while the world watches in horror and macabre delight.

If you want to remain sane, learn to relish what is to come. It is justice, it is human nature, it is what it is. No use crying about it, and certainly no use trying to use logical persuasion on the zombies around you to turn it around.

We all knew this day was coming. And we all know this will not be the end. We all know it will be years before the next incident, and then we all know it will be a few more years, then a couple years, then every year, then every month, every week, and when you are old and gray, nothing but war anarchy and hatred will live in the kingdom of selfishness and lies.

So drink, smoke, and fuck like there is no tomorrow... ...because there isn't.

[Danke]

So drink, smoke, and fuck like there is no tomorrow... ...because there isn't.

If only I could.

[pcosmar]

Look at you little idealist wimps, crying for peace. Bemoaning the death of any human. Prepare for more despair, if you think this country can be saved. I told you all, Occupy was your last chance.

America is damned to hell. It will burn itself to death in hatred, while the world watches in horror and macabre delight.

If you want to remain sane, learn to relish what is to come. It is justice, it is human nature, it is what it is. No use crying about it, and certainly no use trying to use logical persuasion on the zombies around you to turn it around.

We all knew this day was coming. And we all know this will not be the end. We all know it will be years before the next incident, and then we all know it will be a few more years, then a couple years, then every year, then every month, every week, and when you are old and gray, nothing but war anarchy and hatred will live in the kingdom of selfishness and lies.

So drink, smoke, and $#@! like there is no tomorrow... ...because there isn't.

It's time.

Time for dissolution perhaps.I can see it as several republics. as a best case scenario. (always hopeful)
The US has to cease to be as a world power.. I had hoped we could do so voluntarily, (Ron Paul)

That hope is past.

Dissolution. Disintegration,, (the only hope to avoid Globalization.)

Hell,,,, Yellowstone is looking Good. :(

But the very last thing you want to support is the enforcer of your oppressor.

[pcosmar]

Dissolution. Disintegration,, (the only hope to avoid Globalization.)

Hell,,,, Yellowstone is looking Good. :(



By that,, I mean it beats Trump or Hillary.

[fr33]

America is damned to hell.



So drink, smoke, and fuck like there is no tomorrow... ...because there isn't.

This sounds like heaven to me.

[fr33]

It's time.

Time for dissolution perhaps.I can see it as several republics. as a best case scenario. (always hopeful)

I'm definitely rooting for that. This country is way too big. We don't get along and can't identify as even a similar animal. The worst thing that can happen is that we become a US version of South Africa.

[pcosmar]

I'm definitely rooting for that. This country is way too big. We don't get along and can't identify as even a similar animal. The worst thing that can happen is that we become a US version of South Africa.
Doubts.. it would transition smoothly,, with the elimination of Washington DC.. Or at least the centralized control..

and a rethinking of Law Enforcement..

because it has become worse than the Thuggies of old.

[bunklocoempire]

Look at you little idealist wimps, crying for peace. Bemoaning the death of any human. Prepare for more despair, if you think this country can be saved. I told you all, Occupy was your last chance.

America is damned to hell. It will burn itself to death in hatred, while the world watches in horror and macabre delight.

If you want to remain sane, learn to relish what is to come. It is justice, it is human nature, it is what it is. No use crying about it, and certainly no use trying to use logical persuasion on the zombies around you to turn it around.

We all knew this day was coming. And we all know this will not be the end. We all know it will be years before the next incident, and then we all know it will be a few more years, then a couple years, then every year, then every month, every week, and when you are old and gray, nothing but war anarchy and hatred will live in the kingdom of selfishness and lies.

So drink, smoke, and fuck like there is no tomorrow... ...because there isn't.

No one gets out alive. You were saying, Nancy? lol :rolleyes: Here, watch this while you're manimaling.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oHEc7QjZ4Q

http://i.imgur.com/4l6S7LI.gif

[Danke]

No one gets out alive. You were saying, Nancy? lol :rolleyes: Here, watch this while you're manimaling.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oHEc7QjZ4Q

http://i.imgur.com/4l6S7LI.gif
TheTexan, you can comment here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oHEc7QjZ4Q

[Brian4Liberty]

As per standard procedure now, we must ask if this shooter was on or recently off of prescription meds.

[JK/SEA]

As per standard procedure now, we must ask if this shooter was on or recently off of prescription meds.

hmmm...my question exactly. A vet, from Afgan...PTSD?...drugs?...gay?...woman problems?....

[Origanalist]

Doubts.. it would transition smoothly,, with the elimination of Washington DC.. Or at least the centralized control..

and a rethinking of Law Enforcement..

because it has become worse than the Thuggies of old.

Yes indeed, they are much worse. More paranoid and way more prone to start shooting at the slightest perceived threat. Real or not matters not at all, all that is required is for the officer to feel threatened and that could merely take a misunderstood glance these days.

[BV2]

Yes indeed, they are much worse. More paranoid and way more prone to start shooting at the slightest perceived threat. Real or not matters not at all, all that is required is for the officer to feel threatened and that could merely take a misunderstood glance these days.

Honestly, I think that explains the push to cover cops with hatecrime legislation. All groups covered by hatecrime legislation have a "holy word" that only members of the group can use, and that word becomes-de facto-illegal for others to use (because if they do, they can lose their jobs, reputations, et al.) If cops can get their word, "pig," and hatespeech legislation is passed, and protestor calls a cop a pig at a protest, that protester will have broken the law and ill be subject to arrest.

[AZJoe]

What of the other shooters, and captured suspects?

[AuH20]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5Bnb8aix70

[Weston White]

What of the other shooters, and captured suspects?

The story has since greatly changed. First it was 2 shooters, then 4, then they were skilled using bait and switch tactics or triangulation, then they had 3 in custody and blew the last one up after an intense standoff, then the three in custody were remaining tight lipped, then the following day, the incident was a...wait for it...wait for it...A LONE GUNMAN. ...SMDH!

[phill4paul]

So supposedly the shooter wrote the letters "RB" in his own blood on the garage walls. Any speculation as to what these letters stand for?


Micah Xavier Johnson, who carried out the deadly attacks on Dallas police, wrote the letters “R.B.” in blood on the walls of the parking garage where he died, Police Chief David Brown said Sunday.

Police are still investigating the significance of the letters but believe Johnson wrote them in his own blood, Brown told CNN’s Jake Tapper. The letters indicate Johnson was wounded when he barricaded himself in the downtown Dallas building.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20160710-dallas-chief-brown-shooter-wrote-r.b.-in-blood-on-walls-of-parking-garage.ece

[TheTexan]

So supposedly the shooter wrote the letters "RB" in his own blood on the garage walls. Any speculation as to what these letters stand for?

I'm guessing he was a fan of Rebecca Black. Or possibly Ray-Ban.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0

[phill4paul]

I'm guessing he was a fan of Rebecca Black. Or possibly Ray-Ban.



Well,the shooting occurred on a Thurs. so the next day was a Friday, so.....

[TheTexan]

Well,the shooting occurred on a Thurs. so the next day was a Friday, so.....

Well that solves it.

I just hope that this single incident doesn't reflect poorly on Rebecca Black fans in general. Most of her fans are perfectly normal & sane. This one single fan was the exception.

[pcosmar]

that is the only point I agree on.

Police should not exist in a free society..

Their existence is proof that this is not a Free Society.

we live in an Authoritarian Police State.
And this earned me a -rep

:D

seems we have some Authoritarians here.

This is Liberty Forest.

[Ender]

And this earned me a -rep

:D

seems we have some Authoritarians here.

This is Liberty Forest.

I'd rep you if I could.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to pcosmar again.

[ChristianAnarchist]

Honestly, I think that explains the push to cover cops with hatecrime legislation. All groups covered by hatecrime legislation have a "holy word" that only members of the group can use, and that word becomes-de facto-illegal for others to use (because if they do, they can lose their jobs, reputations, et al.) If cops can get their word, "pig," and hatespeech legislation is passed, and protestor calls a cop a pig at a protest, that protester will have broken the law and ill be subject to arrest.

Ya, I never call them pigs. I call them what they are... GOONS!!!

[cajuncocoa]

//

[UWDude]

We all knew this day was coming. And we all know this will not be the end. We all know it will be years before the next incident, and then we all know it will be a few more years, then a couple years, then every year, then every month, every week, and when you are old and gray, nothing but war anarchy and hatred will live in the kingdom of selfishness and lies.



Well, looks like I was way off base on this one. A few more years? It was hardly a week.