FBI Director Comey: No charges recommended for Hillary

[cajuncocoa]

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**PLEASE NOTE: the topic title has been changed .... I did not start a topic to gloat that no charges were recommended for Hillary.

[AngryCanadian]

No Reason to Charge Crooked Hillary.:rolleyes:

[iNoob]

Full article: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/05/fbi-director-james-comey-has-concluded-the-investigation-into-clintons-emails.html

Comey began his address by explaining what investigators found during their investigation. He said that the investigation showed that 110 emails in 52 email chains were determined to include classified information at the time they were received.

Comey also said the FBI assessed that there was no direct evidence that Clinton's personal email domain was hacked. It is possible, however, that hostile actors gained access, he added.

He characterized the investigation findings as showing that Clinton and her team were "extremely careless" but he said there was no clear evidence they intended to violate the law.

Still, Comey said the FBI's recommendation is that Clinton no face criminal charges for her actions.

"Our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case," he said.

[silverhandorder]

Comey is an impressive fellow.

[bierdegarde]

Comey likes and wants to keep his job.

[AuH20]

Comey stated that others who break such security parameters in the future may face consequences but not Hillary. I loved watching this puppet show. The regime is finally unmasking.

[Working Poor]

Still, Comey said the FBI's recommendation is that Clinton no face criminal charges for her actions.

was there ever any doubt?

[Created4]

I am certainly NO Trump fan, but if he is smart (and not completely controlled by same power-brokers that control the Clintons - which is doubtful), he will get the best investigators to show to the public exactly how a criminal like Hillary is using her power and influence to dupe the American public and try to install what might go down in history as one of the most corrupt Presidents/Criminals to ever sit in the White House.

What is happening in this scripted media and political show unfolding right before our eyes is pretty obvious to people like those who frequent here, but will the rest of the public finally wake up?

[AngryCanadian]

This still doesn't look good on Hillary.

[Suzanimal]

He characterized the investigation findings as showing that Clinton and her team were "extremely careless" but he said there was no clear evidence they intended to violate the law.
...

"Our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case," he said.



Wow. I doubt they would afford you or I the same consideration.

[BV2]

This from Comey:

"Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is information that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information,"

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Apparently, when you are a member of the ruling class ignorance becomes an acceptable defense. This is outrageous.


"We do not see those things here. To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions, but that's not what we're deciding now,"


So, basically: Hilary broke the law, the FBI both knows this and has proof of this, but cause Clinton she will not be charged. Anyone else, would be. Sorry, have a mundane day mundane. The irony that this comes after the 4th of July. Talk about protection via mock trial.


Clinton told MSNBC's Chuck Todd in a phone interview Saturday that she was "eager" to meet with the FBI but had "no knowledge" of when the federal agency would conclude its investigation. The email saga has dogged Clinton's campaign since before it officially began, but the former secretary of state has long maintained that she didn't send or receive any emails that were classified at the time.



So, Hilary will admit that she is a liar? If she maintained that she "didn't receive or send and emails that were classified at the time" ? Clearly she did, the FBI admits she did. They just are not going to recommend charges to the Ranklin Cankle Lynch.

[AuH20]

"To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now."

LAYMAN TRANSLATION: Enjoy your servitude, slaves.

[TNforPaul45]

ht tp://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/fbi-recommends-no-charges-against-clinton-in-email-probe-225102

Raging, insipid, infinitely extensive stupidity at work here.


"110+ emails were sent with classified information . . . we find no intention to violate the law. . . there were violations of the statutes. . . "

If I take classified information, drop it into an email as an attachment or restate it in the text, and then willfully hit the Send button to send that mail, not only have I violated the law, but I have willfully done so, knowingly. The only interpretation of this result can be that hillary and her staff ACCIDENTALLY hit the send button on 110 email drafts, or that Hillary and her staff are so incompetently stupid that they didn't know this was a violation of the law. So either we have a precedence now where Snowden should be pardoned, or citizens can start claiming that ignorance of the law is a valid defense against punishment from its violation.

When the criminals go free and the innocent are imprisoned, know your country is in trouble!

[Dary]

Comey likes and wants to keep his job life.

FTFY.

[wizardwatson]

Shocking. Truly. Who could have predicted... :rolleyes:

[AuH20]

Comey has given Trump a treasure trove of campaign ads. My god. He basically characterized Hillary as an ignorant child who doesn't know what she's doing. We all know that's the cover-up narrative but it will be helpful.

[Ronin Truth]

FBI Director speaking about Hillary emails

About 45,100,000 results (0.59 seconds)

https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&ictx=2&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwis-uyf1tzNAhUHfiYKHRx2Ba8QPQgD#hl=en&q=FBI+Director+speaking+about+Hillary+emails+

[Ronin Truth]

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james-b.-comey-on-the-investigation-of-secretary-hillary-clintons-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

[TNforPaul45]

Why is it that I can and cannot believe this? From Comey's statements, we can logically deduce that either
1. Hillary and her staff accidentally hit Send on 110+ email drafts that had classified information
or
2. Hillary and her staff had no knowledge of the legal implications of doing so.

Makes them ragingly stupid in either case. So, with 1. Edward Snowden should be pardoned IMMEDIATELY, and with 2. all citizens can now claim "ignorance of the law" as a sufficient defense against punishment when that law if violated.

Of course this was decided ad-hoc by a bureaucrat and not by a court, so she gets off scott-clean and we have none of the same protections.

Just when things couldn't get any worse. . .

[CPUd]

Trump should put out a statement hitting her HARD on this. If he makes her out to be a crook, it will surely help his polling.

[AngryCanadian]

Shocking. Truly. Who could have predicted... :rolleyes:

We can all thank Bill Clinton.

[timosman]

Comey has given Trump a treasure trove of campaign ads. My god. He basically characterized Hillary as an ignorant child who doesn't know what she's doing. We all know that's the cover-up narrative but it will be helpful.

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[AngryCanadian]

Trump should put out a statement hitting her HARD on this. If he makes her out to be a crook, it will surely help his polling.
The fact that the FBI stated that it was Hillary's careless trump could use that effectively agaisnt her and her polices of intervention like on Libya.

[silverhandorder]

Trump should put out a statement hitting her HARD on this. If he makes her out to be a crook, it will surely help his polling.

Not sure if triggered.

[luctor-et-emergo]

Thanks to the JUST-US system liberty will be protected, just not yours.

[Ronin Truth]

I wonder if the FBI ever offered the Ruskies, etc. a reasonable price for copies of the HRC emails.

Did the NSA happen to track them?

[69360]

So they know she's guilty but aren't charging her. Huge surprise right?

[timosman]

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[DGambler]

What a farce... Most people won't get it... Nothing has changed

[jllundqu]

Unreal. The statute is so freaking clear and the past low-level convictions are so damning. Comey is a coward. Say hello to your next madam president, folks. I'm going to go suck-start my pistol. /sarc

[timosman]

Wow. I doubt they would afford you or I the same consideration.

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[AuH20]

Very fitting today.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s8kmfgoGew

Justice is lost
Justice is raped
Justice is gone
Pulling your strings
Justice is done
Seeking no truth
Winning is all
Find it so grim
So true
So real

Lady Justice has been raped
Truth assassin
Rolls of red tape seal your lips
Now you’re done in
Their money tips her scales again
Make your deal
Just what is truth? I cannot tell
Cannot feel

[Suzanimal]

I forgot my place for a minute there.


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[jllundqu]

The rule of law has been dead for a long time... but they just took its corpse out, killed it again, cremated it, and pissed on its ashes.

SMDH.

[XNavyNuke]

Wow. I doubt they would afford you or I the same consideration.

Exactly.

XNN

[DGambler]

If it wasn't so serious, I'd be laughing at the absurdity of that press conference... I can't believe he said it was a non-political decision.

[bierdegarde]

The subject line in all my future emails will be labeled (Classified), drive the ABC Agencies crazy.

[jllundqu]

"Officer, I wasn't aware the speed limit was 55 and I certainly didn't INTEND to speed."

[Suzanimal]

"Officer, I wasn't aware the speed limit was 55 and I certainly didn't INTEND to speed."

"She looked 18 to me."

[Madison320]

"To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now."

LAYMAN TRANSLATION: Enjoy your servitude, slaves.

That's the funniest part to me.

[LibertyEagle]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-07-02/hsbc-judge-approves-1-9b-drug-money-laundering-accord
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/09/business/dealbook/hsbc-case-tests-transparency-of-deferred-prosecution-agreements.html?_r=0
http://www.euroinvestor.com/news/2013/07/31/hsbc-holdings-james-comey-resigns-to-become-director-of-fbi/12431033

[TNforPaul45]

"I certainly didn't intend to forget to
- file my taxes
- obtain a permit
- walk around the TSA checkpoint in the airport
- walk around with an AK-47
- register for the draft
it all just kinda happened. I love America. What does it even matter at this point?"

[cajuncocoa]

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[Peace&Freedom]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-07-02/hsbc-judge-approves-1-9b-drug-money-laundering-accord
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/09/business/dealbook/hsbc-case-tests-transparency-of-deferred-prosecution-agreements.html?_r=0
http://www.euroinvestor.com/news/2013/07/31/hsbc-holdings-james-comey-resigns-to-become-director-of-fbi/12431033

Comey is the new Ken Starr. He's was there to be the "respected Republican" who completes the cover-up of the Clintons.

[Working Poor]

Still, Comey said the FBI's recommendation is that Clinton no face criminal charges for her actions.

was there ever any doubt?

[LibertyEagle]

Comey is the new Ken Starr. He's was there to be the "respected Republican" who completes the cover-up of the Clintons.

Looks to me that Comey was put there to pay the Pipers for deferred prosecution of HSBC, in addition to the millions that HSBC gave to the Clinton Foundation.

[thoughtomator]

Maybe now some of you will finally wake up to the real danger of allowing Clinton to become President.

[oyarde]

Looks like Thurs I will set aside to collect all of my bets and pick up some beer.

[jllundqu]

What's interesting is that the Clinton FOundation corruption investigation was not addressed at all...

[Jamesiv1]

FTFY.
right? lol

actions speak louder than words.

[AuH20]

http://lawattorneylegal.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/bananarepublic.jpg

[AuH20]

Maybe now some of you will finally wake up to the real danger of allowing Clinton to become President.

which was evident all along. But Trump is allegedly the antiChrist with no documented body trail.

[CaptUSA]

Shocking. :rolleyes:

I'm wondering if there was anyone on the planet that didn't know how this was going to go.

[Jamesiv1]

Shocking. :rolleyes:

I'm wondering if there was anyone on the planet that didn't know how this was going to go.
Judge Nap seemed pretty convinced....

[Peace&Freedom]

Judge Nap seemed pretty convinced....

Judge Nap, unlike Jim Comey, was not facing the prospect of a barbell 'accidentally' falling on his neck.

[Jamesiv1]

Judge Nap, unlike Jim Comey, was not facing the prospect of a barbell 'accidentally' falling on his neck.
there needs to be more barbell regulation

[jllundqu]

Judge Nap seemed pretty convinced....

Many people were convinced. Many people staked their reputation on indictments. They were justified, but this was flagrant injustice and rigged bullshit. Lynch and Bill, Obama and Hillary, it's all for show.... and leftist zombies are in full orgasm mode.

[wizardwatson]

Best twitter hashtag I've seen in a while on this #TooBigToJail

yuk yuk.

But really, y'all need to settle down. It's just some silly emails. It isn't like she refused to bake a gay cake or something.

That's our Hillary! :cool:

http://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/if-you-would-stop-asking-i-could-stop-lying-hillary-clinton.jpg

[twomp]

I never really thought that she would be charged but this is still infuriating. FK the Just-Us system!!!

[cajuncocoa]

Comey, commie, Comey...coincidence? I don't think so.

[puppetmaster]

The FBI has just proven themselves to be a fucking joke

[cajuncocoa]

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[juleswin]

Judge Nap seemed pretty convinced....

The man seems to be in his own zone recently. Nobody who knows how corrupt and partisan it is in Washington would known that an Obama administration nominee would not be the person to derail the Clinton presidency. Anything short of someone in the Clinton camp talking, she wasn't going to be indicted.

Its sorta like expecting the police dept to indict their own guy. Yes it happens, but the money is on it never happening. Move along folks, this just another small hurdle on the way to having our first female president. We had a chance to do something but we nominated her best friend Donald "the reality show guy" Trump.

Enjoy the next 8 yrs of Hillary's rule.

[CPUd]

Yeah, most of the folks who truly believed Hillary would be indicted are the same ones who believe Trump would get elected.

[bunklocoempire]

Thank you FBI, for absolutely legitimizing a voluntary system, as well as the 2nd amendment. Promoting and protecting rights, you're doing it wrong.

Hillary continues to put a country further at risk and skates her whole life, yet my cousin recently did 5 years Federal for a non-violent, victim-less, 1st offense weapons charge. Yep, that's par for the course with a system of force.

Plan, and continue to prepare for the worst. Being pro-active can do wonders for the attitude.

[juleswin]

Yeah, most of the folks who truly believed Hillary would be indicted are the same ones who believe Trump would get elected.

Lol, the delusion is catching on this one. At least now we know what happens when an unstoppable objects meets and immovable mass. Teflon Don meets Hardcore Hillary and Hillary wins this round

[AuH20]

I will take bets that neither Hillary nor Trump are alive by 2020, regardless of the presidential outcome. Hillary will likely suffer the same fate as Caligula.

[timosman]

The man seems to be in his own zone recently.

Judge is good for the ratings. ;)

[65fastback2+2]

I will take bets that neither Hillary nor Trump are alive by 2020, regardless of the presidential outcome. Hillary will likely suffer the same fate as Caligula.

Trump would probably get the Kennedy treatment for sure.

[Carlybee]

No surprise. They take care of their own. They aren't going to let silly laws get in the way of the anointed one.

[juleswin]

Judge is good for the ratings. ;)

Yup, the man is comedy gold whenever he starts talking about the rule of law catching up to Washington insiders. Also you might not know this but for a time, he was sorta of a darling to the progressives who supported Sander. They loved him because they too were hoping for a Clinton conviction.

Yet again, Sanders and Trump supporters are having the sadz.

[Suzanimal]

http://i.imgur.com/k3Es9Mi.png

[LibertyEagle]

Yeah, most of the folks who truly believed Hillary would be indicted are the same ones who believe Trump would get elected.

Nah, most of us have watched the body bags pile up in the Clinton's wake. But, do keep on doing your best to get her elected. I know you will. ;)

[rprprs]

What's interesting is that the Clinton FOundation corruption investigation was not addressed at all...
Interesting and telling.
Forget Benghazi. Forget email servers. Irregularities and corruption at the Clinton Foundation is where the real meat lies.
Republicans and other Clinton detractors need to recognize this if they really want to wreak havoc on Hillary's candidacy.

[euphemia]

Comey=Coward

[kcchiefs6465]

But only just now. They've destroyed my faith in them.
My faith in the FBI was destroyed when they let a man sit in prison for 25 plus years for a murder he did not commit while protecting the true killers allowing them to go on and continue murdering people with impunity.

RIP Joseph Salvati.

[ChristianAnarchist]

I called it. I said all along it was a pipe dream to think that a high powered crook like Billary would ever get indited. There is a certain level of power and influence that grants full immunity to all "crimes"...

[01000110]

Oh fuck this shit.

I didn't intend to make a huge mistake on my taxes, that'll be fine, right?

[jllundqu]

LibertyEagle (sic) neg repped me for calling out the "You must support Hillary if you don't vote Trump" BS... what a tool. lol

[phill4paul]

Oh fuck this shit.

I didn't intend to make a huge mistake on my taxes, that'll be fine, right?

Sure. You'll be fined.

[jllundqu]

Wanna hear a joke?

Jim Comey

:)

[phill4paul]

Wanna hear a joke?

Jim Comey

:)

Wanna hear a dirty joke?

Hillary Clinton.

:)

[Dary]

Wanna hear a joke?

Jim Comey

:)
Comey just didn't want to be Ron Browned or Vince Fostered.

[jllundqu]

Comey just didn't want to be Ron Browned or Vince Fostered.

Bullshit. The FBI Director wasn't scared of the Clintons. Something else may be at work, but I highly doubt the man running the most powerful law enforcement service in the world is afraid of cankles.

[puppetmaster]

Trump would probably get the Kennedy treatment for sure. true...or the most intolerant left wing liberals will do it. They always resort to violence when you don't agree with them

[01000110]

Bull$#@!. The FBI Director wasn't scared of the Clintons. Something else may be at work, but I highly doubt the man running the most powerful law enforcement service in the world is afraid of cankles.
Like what? Big fat load of cash or something?

[kcchiefs6465]

Like what? Big fat load of cash or something?
Give me, "Corrupt Authoritarian piece of Shit" for $500.

[Carlybee]

Maybe now some of you will finally wake up to the real danger of allowing Clinton to become President.

Allowing? Like we have a choice either way.

[dannno]

Bullshit. The FBI Director wasn't scared of the Clintons. Something else may be at work, but I highly doubt the man running the most powerful law enforcement service in the world is afraid of cankles.

Have you not seen all of the documentaries on the Clinton scandals? They don't do that shit all by themselves.

[nikcers]

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Sen. Rand Paul is lone dissenter as James Comey confirmed for FBI post


Mr. Comey (http://m.washingtontimes.com/topics/james-b-comey/) overcame a last-minute objection by Sen. Rand Paul (http://m.washingtontimes.com/topics/rand-paul/), Kentucky Republican, who was trying to filibuster the nomination in order to force the FBI (http://m.washingtontimes.com/topics/federal-bureau-of-investigation/) to explain its drone surveillance policy. Minutes before Monday’s vote Mr. Paul (http://m.washingtontimes.com/topics/rand-paul/) announced he had gotten more details from the FBI (http://m.washingtontimes.com/topics/federal-bureau-of-investigation/) and was dropping his blockade effort.
The 93-1 vote — Mr. Paul (http://m.washingtontimes.com/topics/rand-paul/) was the lone “no” vote — makes Mr. Comey (http://m.washingtontimes.com/topics/james-b-comey/) the seventh director of the country’s top law enforcement agency, succeeding Robert S. Mueller III, who served for 12 years — the longest tenure since J. Edgar Hoover.

[jllundqu]

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Epic

[Peace&Freedom]

I called it. I said all along it was a pipe dream to think that a high powered crook like Billary would ever get indited. There is a certain level of power and influence that grants full immunity to all "crimes"...

Under the current establishment, yes, certain high powered crooks don't get indicted. But all the non-Hillary candidates have to do is say is, "that WILL change in six months, if you elect me."


P.S.--Ran across this random YouTube comment, which makes the case for lightening up on a man likely under duress:

i think comey was very brave by coming out and directly stating all the criminal things she did....i feel he was FORCED to state there would be no indictment....they probably threatened to kill every member of his family...every member ....in front of his eyes....he knew his speech would be enough to wake the people up....he stated he was proud of the fbi....face it...they did an awesome investigation.....he stated all the things they found.....and stating the results to the nation was in effect telling everyone she was guilty!....don't blame a man under duress....where is he going to turn for help?????.....i think he is VERY brave....He Told the World She Is Guilty!!!!...He Told The World The System Is Corrupt!!!!...IF THE PEOPLE DON'T WAKE UP NOW THEN AMERICA WILL SEE THE HARLOT RIDE THE WILD BEAST

[KEEF]

Ok, I want that dude claiming to be from the FBI to start leaking the stuff he was talking about in that post the other day, and then claim he didn't know it would be illegal to leak these classified FBI files on the Clinton Foundation, etc.

[AuH20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmnryVKWIAAkR_c.jpg

[devil21]

And then she hopped aboard Air Force One with Obama, flew down to my city and had dinner at a bbq joint literally around the corner from my house. Brazen!

[cajuncocoa]

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[Suzanimal]

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:rolleyes:
Oh, please. Gen Petraeus got a slap on the wrist and a sweet new gig.

[euphemia]

Petraeus engaged in pillow talk and left his calendar out. He didn't make a dime from it. Hillary mishandled state secrets and made a mint selling favors to hostile nations.

[Son_of_Liberty90]

I'm arguing with a Hilary worshiper on facebook. Please help refute!


It was not illegal at the time dude. It is now. Again, the rules were changed/specified in 2014. You don't actually give a shit about ethics, you just hate Hillary Clinton.

Once again, Hillary has been cleared by a REPUBLICAN-led investigation. And once again, her hardcore haters will ignore it."Gross negligence" is different from ordinary negligence. That means willful or wanton exposure of others to a risk.Like (https://www.facebook.com/#) · Reply (https://www.facebook.com/#) · Just now

OIG report specifically faults Powell, and many of Condoleezza Rice's top aides, for this as well.Like (https://www.facebook.com/#) · Reply (https://www.facebook.com/#) · Just now

Her actions, chiefly her use of pvt IT and the SS as guards, indicate diligence. Thus, she was not indifferent to a risk.Powell had emails w/ classified info sent to his home laptop.

She had three separate IT firms guarding the data at her personal expense. On the one occasion foreign hackers *tried* to breach the server, her IT shut it down and notified the State Dept.

She was careless, but not careless beyond the boundaries of typical State Dept employee. And with that, I say good night.

[AuH20]

i'm arguing with a Hilary fan on facebook. Please help refute!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-05/clinton-case-obama-administration-nullifies-6-criminal-laws





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18 U.S. Code § 2071 — Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.

18 U.S. Code § 641 — Public money, property or records
Whoever embezzles, steals, purloins, or knowingly converts to his use, or the use of another, or without authority, sells, conveys or disposes of any record, voucher, money, or thing of value of the United States or of any department or agency thereof, or any property made or being made under contract for the United States or any department or agency thereof, …
Shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than ten years or both. …

18 U.S. Code § 793 — Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information …
(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer —
Shall be fined not more than $10, 000 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both. (g) If two or more persons conspire to violate any of the foregoing provisions of this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy, shall be subject to the punishment provided for the offense which is the object of such conspiracy.

[Son_of_Liberty90]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-05/clinton-case-obama-administration-nullifies-6-criminal-laws

Her response has been modified. Can I still use this?

[AuH20]

I'm arguing with a Hilary worshiper on facebook. Please help refute!

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-state-department-audit-clinton-emails-20160525-snap-story.html


The 79-page report faulted Clinton for not seeking permission to use a personal email account and server, noting the investigation found “no evidence that the Secretary requested or obtained guidance or approval to conduct official business via a personal email account on her private server.” Department officials “did not — and would not — approve” of such a practice, the report added.

Clinton’s failure to promptly turn over all relevant emails also was criticized. “At a minimum, Secretary Clinton should have surrendered all emails dealing with Department business before leaving government service and, because she did not do so, she did not comply with the Department’s policies that were implemented in accordance with the Federal Records Act.”

[AuH20]

Hillary devised the offsite server plan to avert potential FOIA requests down the line. A criminal doesn't want to leave an accessible paper trail.

[Son_of_Liberty90]

Hillary devised the offsite server plan to avert potential FOIA requests down the line. A criminal doesn't want to leave an accessible paper trail.

Man who knew a facebook debate would be so exhausting. F***ing ridiculous. This is a person from high school I haven't spoken to in YEARS, but talk about clinton, and you're in for a shitstorm


I love all these experts of the law we have on here! Totally more qualified than the head of the FBI!

There is no national security statute that allows simple negligence as admissible for prosecution.

[AuH20]

Man who knew a facebook debate would be so exhausting. F***ing ridiculous. This is a person from high school I haven't spoken to in YEARS, but talk about clinton, and you're in for a $#@!storm

It wasn't simple negligence. You can see the six federal laws she broke.

[enhanced_deficit]

Big surprise there.



Related

A pattern of politically motivated "justice" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?471522-A-pattern-of-politically-motivated-quot-justice-quot&)
A pattern of politically motivated "justice" by Obama handlers where political enemies are punished and friends/donors are rewarded?

Case I: Pastor Wright and daughter

Jeremiah Wright claims Obama ally offered $150,000 bribe ...
May 13, 2012 - According to Wright, Obama met personally with his then-pastor to ask him ... Wright $150,000 to stay silent during Obama's 2008 presidential ...

KUHNER: Jeremiah Wright can sink Obama - Washington ...
www.washingtontimes.com/.../jeremiah- (http://www.washingtontimes.com/.../jeremiah-)wright-ca...The Washington Times
May 17, 2012 - Jeremiah Wright threatens to engulf President Obama in a major scandal - one ... President's former pastor telling story of betrayal and bribery ... claims that in 2008, the Obama campaign offered $150,000 to buy his silence.

Rev. Jeremiah Wright Daughter Indicted for Alleged Money ...
abcnews.go.com › Investigative UnitABC News
Apr 11, 2013

Rev. Wright's Daughter Headed To Prison
dailycaller.com/.../chickens-coming-home-to-roost-rev-...The Daily Caller
Feb 23, 2015 - Jeri Wright, the 48-year-old daughter of President Barack Obama's mentor and former pastor Jeremiah Wright, is heading to jail.


http://africanamericanreligions.umwblogs.org/files/2013/12/obama-wright300.jpghttp://cdn.breitbart.com/mediaserver/Breitbart/Big-Government/2014/03/08/jeri-wright-ap.png





Obama gives $5.9 Million Contract to Friend Who Offered ...
www.fringepolitics.com/s/index.php/home/view/164 (http://www.fringepolitics.com/s/index.php/home/view/164)
Obama gives $5.9 Million Contract to Friend Who Offered Bribe to Silence Rev. ... bribed Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Obama's former pastor, with a $150,000 ...




Case II: Miriam Carey's family and their lawyer


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63lPB...layer_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63lPBqhZv5Y&feature=player_embedded)


Lawyer representing family of Miriam Carey arrested
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?430954-Lawyer-representing-family-of-Miriam-Carey-arrested&)
(CBS) NEW YORK - Eric Sanders, the lawyer who is representing the family of Miriam Carey, the Stamford, Conn. mother who led authorities on a chaotic car chase from the White House to the U.S. Capitol before being killed by authorities earlier this month, has been arrested for failing to pay court settlements against him, the New York Post reports.

The arrest comes on the heels of a scathing twitlonger tweet (http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rpp5u2), from Sanders Esq., in reference to the handling of the Miriam Carey incident:
After we somewhat rest Miriam's soul on Tuesday, we are going to press a full frontal campaign to bring those who violated her civil rights to justice.


Case IV Al Sharpton

Sharpton’s pledge to not criticize Obama (http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/24/uygur-on-his-potential-replacement-sharptons-pledge-to-not-criticize-obama-worth-noting/)

https://ioneblackamericaweb.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/jab-obama.jpg?w=420


People Jailed for Owing Less Taxes Than Al Sharpton
www.foxbusiness.com/.../people-jailed-for-owing- (http://www.foxbusiness.com/.../people-jailed-for-owing-)...
Feb 5, 2015 - Serial tax avoidance appears to be a hallmark of Al Sharpton's operations. But there's a warning here: Others have gone to prison for lesser ...

Case V

http://mediamatters.org/static/images/item/2016_obamas_america.jpg
http://wellspentjourney.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/dinesh.jpg

Conservative filmmaker behind anti-Obama documentary indicted for violating election law

Published January 23, 2014
The conservative filmmaker behind a hit anti-Obama documentary was indicted Thursday night on charges he violated federal campaign laws, in what a close colleague is calling a “selective prosecution.”
Dinesh D'Souza, whose “2016: Obama’s America” is the second-highest grossing political documentary of all time, will appear in U.S. District Court in New York Friday.

[Son_of_Liberty90]

It wasn't simple negligence. You can see the six federal laws she broke.

what about this?

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2016/07/05/the-clinton-email-probe-and-the-question-of-gross-negligence/


The Espionage Act requires proof that the evidence was released to someone not entitled to it. There is no reported evidence of that occurring in this case. Even if Secretary Clinton was even grossly negligent with her emails, there is no crime if it doesn't fall into the wrong hands. While Mr. Comey thought it was possible that her email had been hacked, he admitted that there was no evidence of it.

[AuH20]

what about this?

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2016/07/05/the-clinton-email-probe-and-the-question-of-gross-negligence/

That is typically subjective law since it's so controversial. Though I think they hit Snowden with that charge.

[Son_of_Liberty90]

That is typically subjective law since it's so controversial. Though I think they hit Snowden with that charge.

It should be a black and white closed case to debate, but apparently not. I expected to demolish her arguments, but...


Petraeus was caught on tape saying he knew he was leaking classified documents...after telling FBI he wasn't

https://mediamatters.org/research/2016/07/05/gross-negligence-claim-about-clinton-emails-fbi-specifically-rejected/211352


Comey also took care to note in his statement that unlike in Clinton’s case, previous cases prosecuted involved either intentional mishandling of classified info; levels of disclosure that allowed for an inference of willful mishandling; signs of disloyalty to the U.S.; or some combination of those.
“Hillary Clinton was never likely to be indicted, because no one has ever been prosecuted before in a situation similar to hers,” Matthew Miller, a former spokesman for the Justice Department, tells me. “There’s never been a case where someone has been prosecuted where either gross negligence or willful intent weren’t completely obvious.”




Few defendants have been charged under that negligence provision (18 U.S.C. § 793 (f)). In one such case in 2003 (http://digitalcommons.lmu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2548&context=llr), the charge was leveled against a FBI counterintelligence agent accused (http://fas.org/irp/news/2003/04/fbi040903.html) of allowing a suspected Chinese double agent with whom he was having an affair to gain access to classified documents. The charged FBI agent, James J. Smith, ultimately pleaded guilty to a single count of making a false statement to investigators about their affair.

The elite slip through our fingers once again. :(

[Cleaner44]

There is no rule of law. The USA is a joke...


https://youtu.be/ox4IRQVGsBU

[Son_of_Liberty90]

It should be a black and white closed case to debate, but apparently not. I expected to demolish her arguments, but...



https://mediamatters.org/research/2016/07/05/gross-negligence-claim-about-clinton-emails-fbi-specifically-rejected/211352





The elite slip through our fingers once again. :(

I still want to solidify this argument.

[Son_of_Liberty90]

I see the case that the 110+ emails sent out could have been compromised, but that point is being underplayed.

[Son_of_Liberty90]

Ok from what I've read, this is the core of it:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYmY_IIUsAEBpr7.png



Furthermore, ”gross negligence” as a legal matter, doesn’t, and shouldn’t, just mean it was wrong or dumb or even just careless. Rather gross negligence is generally defined legally (https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/gross_negligence) as:
“A lack of care that demonstrates reckless disregard for the safety or lives of others, which is so great it appears to be a conscious violation of other people’s rights to safety. It is more than simple inadvertence….”



I like the comments:


This whole discussion is a perfect example of why people hate lawyers almost as much as they hate crooked politicians.

[devil21]

Regarding quote above....

That's why most politicans are lawyers.

Obama? Check. Clinton? Check. Comey? Check. Lynch? Check. 95% of Congress? Check.

Therefore you must ask yourself who the lawyers are working for? See my sig ;)

It's also why the original 13th Amendment that prohibited lawyers (holders of foreign titles of nobility such as ESQUIRE) from holding public office was deleted when the original Constitution of the united states was rescinded and replaced with the Constitution for the United States and the 14th Amendment magically became the 13th Amendment.

[Weston White]

Then if this is to be the case, then Petraeus' charge should be overturned. Also Snowden should be granted these new Hillary rules.

[Peace&Freedom]

This whole discussion is a perfect example of why people hate lawyers almost as much as they hate crooked politicians.

The contentious rationalizing away of clear-cut wrongdoing that attends many scandals is a main reason why most crooked lawyers/politicians get away with things. They know 1) almost everything can be turned into fine-point legaleze, which destroys interest in the matter over time (because most people don't want to sweat the details), 2) while misdirection and other faulty reasoning can be quickly spotted, objected to and thrown out in a courtroom, such techniques are readily used in speeches or media coverage to spin "crimes were committed" into "mistakes were made," to exonerate hoods in the court of public opinion.

That's why it seems the only scandals that tend to stick are sex scandals. A sex scandal can't be blamed on a low-level flunky, a gray area in the law, a partisan witch hunt, or turned into something too complicated for the public to understand. Either person X did something with person Y, or sent naughty communications to Z, or not. This is a prime reason for the Spitzers and Weiners being out of office, and why the Clinton sex flaps have had a much longer shelf life than the financial ones, which were much more serious and numerous.

So as much as we may prefer to focus on the Clinton scandals that are "respectable" to discuss, those were always fool's gold. Perhaps the big picture is, given their control over the system, the Clintons were never going down over "mishandled emails," which is how most regular people (who don't sweat the details) summarize the whole matter, as there were always too many lawyer escape routes around the issue. It's more likely we can stop the Clintonistas over Mr. Epstein and Orgy Island.

[AngryCanadian]

I'm arguing with a Hilary worshiper on facebook. Please help refute!

The Hilary worshipers are to easy targets, just mention Hillary and Obama failed Libya and created a major mess there.

[nikcers]

It is time to bring back the mandate of heaven, when a ruler abuses power, law loses it's meaning.

[AngryCanadian]

Paul Ryan and Senate doing something positive for a change lol. Dont expect McCain to be backing that though.

[Carlybee]

Interesting and telling.
Forget Benghazi. Forget email servers. Irregularities and corruption at the Clinton Foundation is where the real meat lies.
Republicans and other Clinton detractors need to recognize this if they really want to wreak havoc on Hillary's candidacy.

I think Republican PTB want her over Trump...yeah I said it.

[dannno]

I think Republican PTB want her over Trump...yeah I said it.

You are now officially a Trumpaloompa

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/08/24/article-1305699-0AE5EBA1000005DC-569_224x356.jpg

[cajuncocoa]

//

[tod evans]

There is no rule of law. The USA is a joke...


Oh yes there is!

It applies to thee-n-me but not theme.

[LibertyEagle]

LibertyEagle (sic) neg repped me for calling out the "You must support Hillary if you don't vote Trump" BS... what a tool. lol

Now why would you lie? You neg-repped me saying "BS" on this post: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?497548-FBI-Director-Comey-No-charges-recommended-for-Hillary&p=6254728&viewfull=1#post6254728

[phill4paul]

Now why would you lie? You neg-repped me saying "BS" on this post: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?497548-FBI-Director-Comey-No-charges-recommended-for-Hillary&p=6254728&viewfull=1#post6254728

Didn't see a lie in that context. I countered with a +rep.

[AuH20]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k217Mm4kqVE

[Brian4Liberty]

There was one Senator who voted against confirming #Comey, because Comey couldn't be trusted to uphold #RuleOfLaw.
https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/750856569449947137

750856569449947137

[nikcers]

I saw this coming, so will all of those celebs for sanders. They will use their celeberity to sell the democrat party to Sanders voters. The Republican party loss will be epic.

[nikcers]

#victorsjusticeisnotjustice

[Brian4Liberty]

Indict Hillary? The establishment is fully invested in Hillary, in every sense of the word "invested". #TooBigToJail
http://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/750885814372954112

750885814372954112

[nikcers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cPxkj3Qde4

[Marenco]

http://michaelsmithnews.typepad.com/.a/6a0177444b0c2e970d01b8d0c0f18c970c-600wi

[BV2]

How convenient for Hilary that two black men were just murdered by the police on tape. Not even God could write this shit, I swear.

[dannno]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPHukc36KLU

[openfire]

I think Republican PTB want her over Trump...yeah I said it.

Of course they do.

Welcome to the ********** club.

[Zippyjuan]

Comey is a Republican and served as Deputy Attorney General under George W. Bush- second highest position in the Justice Department. Prior to that he was United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York also under Bush. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Comey

[enhanced_deficit]

To be fair, Comey's boss is stumping for her.



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Democrats
Clinton and Obama Double Team Trump at Carolina Rally

Jul 5, 2016 6:32 PM EDT
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/vi...carolina-rally (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/videos/2016-07-05/clinton-and-obama-double-team-trump-at-north-carolina-rally)

[AZJoe]

Why did Comey Do It?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/comey-a-theory/2016/07/07/297f9bd0-4478-11e6-8856-f26de2537a9d_story.html

"Why did he do it? FBI Director James Comey spent 14 minutes laying out an unassailable case for prosecuting Hillary Clinton for the mishandling of classified material. Then at literally the last minute, he recommended against prosecution. …

Comey summed up Clinton’s behavior as “extremely careless.” … Yet Comey let her off the hook … negligence doesn’t require intent. Compromising national secrets is such a grave offense that it requires either intent or negligence. … But Clinton clearly intended to set up an unsecured private server. She clearly intended to send those classified emails. She clearly received warnings from her own department about the dangers of using a private email account. She meant to do what she did. And she did it. Intentionally. …

Yet Comey claims that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. … Just last year, the Justice Department successfully prosecuted naval reservist Bryan Nishimura, who improperly downloaded classified material to his personal, unclassified electronic devices. The government admitted that there was no evidence that Nishimura intended to distribute the material to others. …

So why not Hillary Clinton? … Clintons are treated by a different standard. Only little people pay. … Alternatively … He gave in to implicit political pressure, the desire to please those in power. …

I would suggest … He did not want the FBI director to end up as the arbiter of the 2016 presidential election. … Prosecuting under current circumstances would have upended and redirected an already year-long presidential selection process. In my view, Comey didn’t want to be remembered as the man who irreversibly altered the course of American political history. …"

[Lucille]

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13903400_547642618762264_181447679765751115_n.jpg? oh=763ccd0b4891e429426d8cf24337cf45&oe=58555168

[ChristianAnarchist]

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13903400_547642618762264_181447679765751115_n.jpg? oh=763ccd0b4891e429426d8cf24337cf45&oe=58555168

Damn, out of rep...
"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Lucille again."

[Lucille]

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HBHF9JIdWtg/V67fn2gG9WI/AAAAAAABBIU/RRHnXV7X0no5HPgQvortN8FtK7KAkC3qgCLcB/s640/1%2B1%2B1ninetymiles6G7Nh1tqnoyio1_500.jpg

[Lucille]

783031177867358208


As part of the Judiciary Committee’s ongoing oversight of Secretary Clinton’s unauthorized use of a private email server during her tenure as Secretary of State, the Justice Department (DOJ) provided in camera review of certain immunity agreements. After a specific request from the Committee, based on references made in the immunity agreements to certain “side agreements,” DOJ subsequently provided in camera review of those “side agreements” between DOJ, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and Beth Wilkinson, the lawyer representing both Cheryl Mills and Heather Samuelson. Like many things about this case, these new materials raise more questions than answers. Please provide a written response to the below questions and make DOJ staff available for a briefing on this matter no later than October 10, 2016.

Why did the FBI agree to destroy both Cheryl Mills’ and Heather Samuelson’s laptops after concluding its search?
Doesn’t the willingness of Ms. Mills and Ms. Samuelson to have their laptops destroyed by the FBI contradict their claim that the laptops could have been withheld because they contained non-relevant, privileged information? If so, doesn’t that undermine the claim that the side agreements were necessary?
Have these laptops, or the contents of the laptops, in fact been destroyed, thereby making follow up investigations by the FBI, or Congressional oversight, impossible?

Continues at the link.

[devil21]

783031177867358208

Continues at the link.

The ZH link:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/fbi-allowed-2-hillary-aides-destroy-their-laptops-newly-exposed-side-agreements

[AZJoe]

http://truthfeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/xjames-comey-clinton-foundation-corruption-800x416.png.pagespeed.ic.3e6uCdGIU7.jpg