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RandallFan
07-04-2016, 11:47 PM
http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/4/12093270/john-cena-fourth-of-july-we-love-america


Almost half the country belongs to minority groups," says Cena, midway through the ad. "People who are lesbian, African American, bi, transgender, and Native American, and proud of it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqZsJrzC9aY

RestorationOfLiberty
07-04-2016, 11:56 PM
http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/4/12093270/john-cena-fourth-of-july-we-love-america



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqZsJrzC9aY


Seeing how only fools listen to celebs I would say his message goes no where fast.

Zippyjuan
07-05-2016, 12:01 AM
Seeing how only fools listen to celebs I would say his message goes no where fast.

Like Trump?

(despite headline posted in thread, there is no call for reparations to any group).

LibertyEagle
07-05-2016, 01:20 AM
Like Trump?

(despite headline posted in thread, there is no call for reparations to any group).

Sell it to Zimbabwe, Zippo.

specsaregood
07-05-2016, 05:25 AM
Didn't this guy play some type of wigger character in the wwf?

Theocrat
07-05-2016, 09:24 AM
"Love has no limits," eh, John Cena? I guess it would be safe to conclude that he has no problem with a 30-year-old man, who is attracted to young girls, having sex with a 10-year-old girl, then. Cena can't set a standard to forbid such love because then he would be refuting himself.

Anti Federalist
07-05-2016, 09:35 AM
http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/4/12093270/john-cena-fourth-of-july-we-love-america



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqZsJrzC9aY

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/southpark/images/a/ab/Pcprincipal.png/revision/latest?cb=20151101193358

AuH20
07-05-2016, 09:38 AM
I've always despised this guy and now my suspicions are confirmed.

bunklocoempire
07-05-2016, 12:40 PM
P$A tax/theft credit, advertising game I imagine. The brainwashing is just a perk these days for the slime who perpetuate a system of force.
Is there a government task force defining "love"? You know it, 24-7. Using the WWF circus to sell tickets to government approved, "staged love", is soooo appropriate.

More incentive to return more of Caesars bullshit currency to him, and network around it. Government is helping the homesteading and prep! :rolleyes:

I will not be a complaisant idol worshiper/enabler, of small "L" government defined "love", my God of perfect Love, says it's a no go...
-Hello terror list, hello increased preparedness, it's great to be here.:)

wizardwatson
07-05-2016, 01:00 PM
This whole "pride" movement, which is really just a overblown victimhood and vicarious victimhood glorification, is a perfect cause for lazy hateful vain people to participate in.

You don't have to give any money. You just have to spew hatred at whomever the crowd labels a bigot and are thereby elevated to share in the glory of all the victims you have helped protect.

Real victims of war, poverty, tyranny, sickness and death is just an "everyday" thing. Not really worth bothering with.

It is the social mirror of the war on terror. An imaginary enemy created by the perpetrators themselves.

Bigotry, terrorism, gender. It'a all a "spectrum", maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.. :rolleyes:

pcosmar
07-05-2016, 01:36 PM
"Love has no limits," eh, John Cena? I guess it would be safe to conclude that he has no problem with a 30-year-old man, who is attracted to young girls, having sex with a 10-year-old girl, then. Cena can't set a standard to forbid such love because then he would be refuting himself.

Love yes..
Sex is another question entirely.

and as a man who has no children,, yes I have loved children.
Some call me grampa,, One has a child of her own now.

I have loved a few men too,,

but I do not believe I owe any reparations.

AuH20
07-05-2016, 01:59 PM
Some of this is virtue signaling. Celebrities love to virtue signal instead of wrangling cerebrally with deep questions.

Slave Mentality
07-05-2016, 05:38 PM
A wrasler...

osan
07-05-2016, 08:44 PM
http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/4/12093270/john-cena-fourth-of-july-we-love-america



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqZsJrzC9aY

One minute and three seconds I will never get back.

BTW, who is that knot-headed dickweed and why is it talking?


ETA: It goes on about "love" and yet has no love or respect for opinions that fall outside the comfort of his warm, fuzzy social justice warrior flannel one-piece jammies. You know, the ones with the cozy little footies?

Not unlike this, minus all the cool of Francis:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0T7QzuiYtI

osan
07-05-2016, 08:45 PM
Some of this is virtue signaling. Celebrities love to virtue signal instead of wrangling cerebrally with deep questions.

Oh phuk... another new buzzword?

Somebody shoot me.

Please.

Theocrat
07-06-2016, 02:36 AM
Love yes..
Sex is another question entirely.

and as a man who has no children,, yes I have loved children.
Some call me grampa,, One has a child of her own now.

I have loved a few men too,,

but I do not believe I owe any reparations.

John Cena was not implying that kind of filial love, pcosmar. He was advocating love based on one's sexual preference, which would include pedophilia. So, once again, I won't expect Cena to speak out against, say, a 30-year-old man who goes after a 10-year-old girl because, hey, it's all love, and pedophiles can't help who they're attracted to, right? Who is society to discriminate?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlsDDye33WA

RonPaulIsGreat
07-06-2016, 04:32 AM
This whole "pride" movement, which is really just a overblown victimhood and vicarious victimhood glorification, is a perfect cause for lazy hateful vain people to participate in.

You don't have to give any money. You just have to spew hatred at whomever the crowd labels a bigot and are thereby elevated to share in the glory of all the victims you have helped protect.

Real victims of war, poverty, tyranny, sickness and death is just an "everyday" thing. Not really worth bothering with.

It is the social mirror of the war on terror. An imaginary enemy created by the perpetrators themselves.

Bigotry, terrorism, gender. It'a all a "spectrum", maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.. :rolleyes:



It's called virtue signaling.

edited to add, guess should have read the whole thread others use the term a few posts down from yours so you probably know it by now. hehe.

tod evans
07-06-2016, 05:24 AM
Oh phuk... another new buzzword?

Somebody shoot me.

Please.

No shit........

Do people get paid to obfuscate or is this kind of misdirection just foisted on the populace for altruistic:rolleyes: reasons?

Anti Federalist
07-06-2016, 07:01 AM
No shit........

Do people get paid to obfuscate or is this kind of misdirection just foisted on the populace for altruistic:rolleyes: reasons?

http://kirsoplabs.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/ch-academia-819x1024.gif

wizardwatson
07-06-2016, 07:55 AM
Some of this is virtue signaling. Celebrities love to virtue signal instead of wrangling cerebrally with deep questions.


Oh phuk... another new buzzword?

Somebody shoot me.

Please.


It's called virtue signaling.

edited to add, guess should have read the whole thread others use the term a few posts down from yours so you probably know it by now. hehe.

I didn't actually know it until you connected it with my post and I looked it up. It's a good phrase, I like it. Easier than writing sentences to explain the concept.

Virtue signaling (Urban Dictionary): Saying you love or hate something to show off what a virtuous person you are, instead of actually trying to fix the problem.

Virtue signaling (Wikipedia): The expression or promotion of viewpoints that are especially valued within a social group, especially when this is done primarily to enhance the social standing of the speaker.

Here's an article explaining the origin of the term, which claims it's only been in circulation since April 2015:

I invented ‘virtue signalling’. Now it’s taking over the world
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/10/i-invented-virtue-signalling-now-its-taking-over-the-world/

From the article:


I guess the reason that ‘virtue signalling’ has been used so much is that it fulfils a need. For years, people have noticed the phenomenon but did not have a word or phrase to describe it. One person tweeted, ‘Love it when you find out something that’s irritated you for years has a name #virtuesignalling.’ The lack of a phrase obstructed open discussion of what was going on. Newspeak, the fictional language created by George Orwell in his novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, limited the number of words people used with the intention of restricting the ability of people to express themselves and even to think. New phrases and words are the opposite of Newspeak. They make expression and argument easier.


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So I guess my point was that the "pride" movement is a "virtue signalers" delight, because the real problem is minimal and impossible to truly eradicate and the only thing you really have to do is talk and post on social media. Maximum glory for minimal effort.

EDIT: Was trying to see if there were other words. Like "grandstanding" and "exhibitionist" are close, but "virtue signaling" really brings out the connotation of being divisive with respect to an ideological enemy. Anyway, that's why new phrases catch on. They work, and fill a need as the article says.

osan
07-06-2016, 08:22 AM
I didn't actually know it until you connected it with my post and I looked it up. It's a good phrase, I like it. Easier than writing sentences to explain the concept.

Virtue signaling (Urban Dictionary): Saying you love or hate something to show off what a virtuous person you are, instead of actually trying to fix the problem.

Virtue signaling (Wikipedia): The expression or promotion of viewpoints that are especially valued within a social group, especially when this is done primarily to enhance the social standing of the speaker.

Here's an article explaining the origin of the term, which claims it's only been in circulation since April 2015:

I invented ‘virtue signalling’. Now it’s taking over the world
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/10/i-invented-virtue-signalling-now-its-taking-over-the-world/

From the article:




...

So I guess my point was that the "pride" movement is a "virtue signalers" delight, because the real problem is minimal and impossible to truly eradicate and the only thing you really have to do is talk and post on social media. Maximum glory for minimal effort.

EDIT: Was trying to see if there were other words. Like "grandstanding" and "exhibitionist" are close, but "virtue signaling" really brings out the connotation of being divisive with respect to an ideological enemy. Anyway, that's why new phrases catch on. They work, and fill a need as the article says.

Just another dog poo buzzword to me. The concept is nothing new and there are plenty of extant expressions for conveyance. For example, there is "hypocrite", whose original meaning suits this notion well. There are many others as well. I find this concocting of new terms to express ancient or otherwise we'll-known concepts an indication of grossly inadequate linguistic skills on the part of the concoctors.

RestorationOfLiberty
07-06-2016, 02:09 PM
Like Trump?

(despite headline posted in thread, there is no call for reparations to any group).

Yeah being a leader of industry and worth 10 Billion plus, with a message of self accountability and defense of Liberty is such an awful thing, right?

Zippyjuan
07-06-2016, 05:12 PM
He is a celebrity which somebody claimed can't be trusted. John Cena is only worth $35 million and a leader in his industry. http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/wrestlers/john-cena-net-worth/


http://hollowverse.com/john-cena/


Cena doesn’t speak often about his religion or political views, but he lists himself as Catholic on his Myspace page.

Politically, Cena has endorsed Republican Connecticut Senate candidate Linda McMahon and advocated for the deportation of Obama’s aunt–who is allegedly in the U.S. illegally So, he’s probably a Republican.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/196189-john-cena-on-barack-obama-politics-if-wrestling-is-real


Just passing along that John Cena was on Hannity as a panelist on the Great American Panel segment. The segment started with a clip of 12 Rounds.

The first topic was about President Obama’s teleprompter, Cena wasn’t directly asked about that question. He was asked if he had to learn his lines in the movie, or did he need a teleprompter for that. A second topic was asked, but Cena did not answer before the break.

Next topic is about President’s Obama’s Aunt who is in the U.S. illegally. Cena said that she is here illegally and agrees that she needs to be deported. Next topic concerns foreign affairs. Cena does answer this one, saying that we need to focus on issues here.




He does disagree with Trump on banning Muslims.

Zippyjuan
07-06-2016, 05:17 PM
"Love has no limits," eh, John Cena? I guess it would be safe to conclude that he has no problem with a 30-year-old man, who is attracted to young girls, having sex with a 10-year-old girl, then. Cena can't set a standard to forbid such love because then he would be refuting himself.

In the Bible Lot had sex with his own daughters after they left Sodom (they got him drunk so they could have children).

RandallFan
07-06-2016, 06:07 PM
Cena says disproportionately amount of land owned by white Christian & Jewish land owners should hand divide their land in New York & other places with a proportion that is in line with the black, gay & hispanic resident.

ZENemy
07-06-2016, 06:22 PM
In the Bible Lot had sex with his own daughters after they left Sodom (they got him drunk so they could have children).

???????

Zippyjuan
07-06-2016, 06:58 PM
???????
Genesis Chapter 19.

https://www.bible.com/bible/114/gen.19.nkjv


30 Lot was afraid to continue living in Zoar, so he and his two daughters went to live in the mountains in a cave. 31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old. Everywhere on the earth women and men marry, but there are no men around here for us to marry. 32 Let’s get our father drunk and have sexual relations with him. We can use him to have children and continue our family.”

33 That night the two girls got their father drunk, and the older daughter went and had sexual relations with him. But Lot did not know when she lay down or when she got up.

34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I had sexual relations with my father. Let’s get him drunk again tonight so you can go and have sexual relations with him, too. In this way we can use our father to have children to continue our family.” 35 So that night they got their father drunk again, and the younger daughter went and had sexual relations with him. Again, Lot did not know when she lay down or when she got up.

36Thus both the daughters of Lot were with child by their father. 37The firstborn bore a son and called his name Moab; he is the father of the Moabites to this day. 38And the younger, she also bore a son and called his name Ben-Ammi; he is the father of the people of Ammon to this day.

Some forget or did not know he offered his daughters to the towns people so they would not want to have sex with angels who had visited him. Different interpretations as to why they wanted sex with the angels. Some say they were worried they were spies (there was a recent war) and wanted to punish/ humiliate them. Some say sex with angels would give humans more powers. Since Lot offered his daughters in their place, it was not likely they were simply looking for homosexual sex.


4Now before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both old and young, all the people from every quarter, surrounded the house. 5And they called to Lot and said to him, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may know them carnally.”

6So Lot went out to them through the doorway, shut the door behind him, 7and said, “Please, my brethren, do not do so wickedly! 8See now, I have two daughters who have not known a man; please, let me bring them out to you, and you may do to them as you wish; only do nothing to these men, since this is the reason they have come under the shadow of my roof.”

How did Adam and Eve populate the Earth without incest among their children? What about Noah's family after the Great Flood? (Noah's kids had their wives with them but for their kids to have kids that would require either sex with cousins or siblings).

RestorationOfLiberty
07-06-2016, 08:13 PM
Genesis Chapter 19.

https://www.bible.com/bible/114/gen.19.nkjv



Some forget or did not know he offered his daughters to the towns people so they would not want to have sex with angels who had visited him. Different interpretations as to why they wanted sex with the angels. Some say they were worried they were spies (there was a recent war) and wanted to punish/ humiliate them. Some say sex with angels would give humans more powers. Since Lot offered his daughters in their place, it was not likely they were simply looking for homosexual sex.



How did Adam and Eve populate the Earth without incest among their children? What about Noah's family after the Great Flood? (Noah's kids had their wives with them but for their kids to have kids that would require either sex with cousins or siblings).

Yeah because that is the real issue, the crazy Christians and not a bunch of people following the words of a 6th century dessert pirate/pedophilia.

RandallFan
07-06-2016, 09:43 PM
He does disagree with Trump on banning Muslims.

Cena's profession is way more dangerous in terms of being attacked by a Muslim operative compared to Trump.