The bleeding edge: Neo-Nazis vs. Anarchists [Sacramento]

[Brian4Liberty]

More than anywhere in the US, California is the leading edge of globalist change. It appears that a group described as "neo-Nazis" had a confrontation with protestors described as "anarchists" today in Sacramento. That was the actual description on a news broadcast. No doubt the titles are misleading. It is safe to assume that the protestors are essentially the same types that protested a couple of Trump rallies. The news was astute enough to use footage showing an actual anarchist flag being waved.

There was blood, so bleeding edge seems to be appropriate.

7 stabbed at neo-Nazi event outside Capitol in Sacramento (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-neo-nazi-stabbed-20160626-snap-htmlstory.html)

There were no good images of the "neo-Nazis", but the news assured us that the SPLC has properly categorized them as such. Who knows? Never heard of the idiots.

Below is the flag some protestors had. Suppose it is consistent with other communist groups that had signs at the previous Trump protests. Interestingly, doing a Google image search on "anarchist flag" only brings back this one.

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Anarcho-syndicalist flag

The red-and-black diagonal flag originated with anarcho-syndicalists in the Spanish Civil War. Anarcho-syndicalism is a branch of anarchism that advocates revolutionary industrial unionism as a means to replace capitalism and the state with a democratically managed stateless society. The red-and-black flag is also used by anarcho-communists, who advocate the abolition of capitalism, the state, wages, and private property ownership in favor of collective ownership of the means of production, direct democracy, voluntary associations, and workers' councils. Anarcho-communists believe in the guiding principle “from each according to his ability, to each according to his need.”

[HVACTech]

Anarchists are very special.. ;)

[P3ter_Griffin]

hahahaha 'democratically managed stateless society'.... that shit is funny.

This really reminds me of the 'antifascists and anarchist' from Europe that I've been seeing on the youtube. And the media and police are so complicit in it. The media is reporting this in a way that really admonishes the victims. And the police have been so tolerant on the assault of Trump supporters. They are acting like they want this to be a staple of modern day politics.

[BV2]

If they violated the NAP, which in this case they certainly did, they are not my brand of anarchist. If I knew enough of my kind, maybe we could show up to these rallies with the black and yellow and defend whichever side is aggressed upon. Ancap safe zones-cost nothing to get in, but we will take voluntary donations. It does seem like this is becoming common place, after all.

[Brian4Liberty]

hahahaha 'democratically managed stateless society'.... that $#@! is funny.

This really reminds me of the 'antifascists and anarchist' from Europe that I've been seeing on the youtube. And the media and police are so complicit in it. The media is reporting this in a way that really admonishes the victims. And the police have been so tolerant on the assault of Trump supporters. They are acting like they want this to be a staple of modern day politics.

Useful idiots doing violence on behalf of the globalist establishment. They will label them anarchists for now, and when it comes time to crack down on them, they will call them "libertarians".

[susano]

CNN and MSNBC were referring to them as "anti-fascists" which, of course, means communists, which the media would never say.

I'm sick to see this European crap exploding in the United States.

[P3ter_Griffin]

Useful idiots doing violence on behalf of the globalist establishment. They will label them anarchists for now, and when it comes time to crack down on them, they will call them "libertarians".

Completely agree. My greatest question is if they are an actual arm of the gov or just a product of the culture government has created that they find, as you say, useful.

[tod evans]

Ca............

Nuff said.

[P3ter_Griffin]

CNN and MSNBC were referring to them as "anti-fascists" which, of course, means communists, which the media would never say.

I'm sick to see this European crap exploding in the United States.

It makes me greatful for Ron Paul and probably even more so RPF. The truth is buried under a lot of shit fed by friends, family, teachers, politicians, media, and society in general. I imagine these people notice or 'feel' that something is wrong, but with the inherent belief that 'government = good' their conclusions, solutions, and actions are fucked. I could've easily ended up as one of these shitbags.

[tod evans]

RT has video from both sides..

https://www.rt.com/usa/348500-stabbing-rally-sacramento-california/

[libertyjam]

I have some of this neo-nazi garbage in my family in the form of step-nephews, I had to quit going to family functions because believe me, after listening to garbage that these human post-birth abortion candidates spew, you would be considering just putting a hollow point in their brain pan to save the world from the carnage they advocate.

They are all about “protest against globalization and in defense of the right to free expression”, as long as it agrees with the views they hold, otherwise it is just talk over and shout down the other person, just like the rabid lefties on the other side. They are clueless, think GW was great, and support the very globalists they protest against.

[Ronin Truth]

Statists vs. anti-Statists, so what's really new? <shrug> :p

[Brian4Liberty]

Completely agree. My greatest question is if they are an actual arm of the gov or just a product of the culture government has created that they find, as you say, useful.

"Answer coalition" and other groups were present. Never know who agitates behind the scenes on the left.

Apparently the neo-Nazi group are really white nationalists. KKK style morons. The very small "Party" holding the "rally" is only a year old, and is the brainchild of a guy named Matthew Heimbach (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_Youth_Network). That douche is so outrageous that it should be no surprise that some are speculating that he is a fake (govt?) plant of some kind. If that were the case, it really would be theater to distract, divide and conquer.

[Brian4Liberty]

RT has video from both sides..

https://www.rt.com/usa/348500-stabbing-rally-sacramento-california/

Watched a few videos. Still haven't found anything showing the actual "rally", but lots of the violence. Seems that the leftist protestors essentially bring clubs disguised as flag poles. The RT footage is kind of ironic, as they talk about the neo-Nazis coming prepared for violence, yet the only footage they have to show is the leftists swinging their "flag poles".

[Brian4Liberty]

CNN and MSNBC were referring to them as "anti-fascists" which, of course, means communists, which the media would never say.

I'm sick to see this European crap exploding in the United States.

The media is in a pickle. Can't use the words "communists", "socialists" or "leftists", so "anarchists" is always a useful fallback for them. "Anti-fascist" is even better. Gives no clues as to their actual positions or agenda.

[tod evans]

Watched a few videos. Still haven't found anything showing the actual "rally", but lots of the violence. Seems that the leftist protestors essentially bring clubs disguised as flag poles. The RT footage is kind of ironic, as they talk about the neo-Nazis coming prepared for violence, yet the only footage they have to show is the leftists swinging their "flag poles".

The vapid little twat they talked to came across worse to me than Southerners in the 50's and 60's as far as her "Run 'em outta town" rhetoric...

Twas that exact mindset that set about burning crosses...

[Brian4Liberty]

I have some of this neo-nazi garbage in my family in the form of step-nephews, I had to quit going to family functions because believe me, after listening to garbage that these human post-birth abortion candidates spew, you would be considering just putting a hollow point in their brain pan to save the world from the carnage they advocate.

They are all about “protest against globalization and in defense of the right to free expression”, as long as it agrees with the views they hold, otherwise it is just talk over and shout down the other person, just like the rabid lefties on the other side. They are clueless, think GW was great, and support the very globalists they protest against.

They need useful idiots on both sides. "Leaders", false or not, need rabid followers on each side to come out for the violence. Otherwise they'd have to put out casting calls. Guess they already have that with professional protesters.

[erowe1]

This is another reason to be cautious about the label anarchist.

Traditionally, socialism has been so endemic to anarchism as to be almost an essential part of it. Anarcho-capitalism is a recent development that even today makes up a small minority of anarchists. And outside of libertarian circles, to call oneself an anarchist would often lead people to assume you're a socialist.

[BV2]

This is another reason to be cautious about the label anarchist.

Traditionally, socialism has been so endemic to anarchism as to be almost an essential part of it. Anarcho-capitalism is a recent development that even today makes up a small minority of anarchists. And outside of libertarian circles, to call oneself an anarchist would often lead people to assume you're a socialist.

LOL! When people ask, that is what I tell them. Good thing I don't get asked much I guess. I probably look like a socialist too. Crap.

[FunkBuddha]

Anarcho-Syndicalist Communes FTW!


Arthur and his trusty servant Patsy "ride" into a field where peasants are
working. They come up behind a cart which is being dragged by a hunched-over
peasant in ragged clothing. Patsy slows as they near the cart.

Arthur: Old Woman!

The peasant turns around, revealing that he is in fact a man.

Man: Man!
Arthur: Man, sorry.... What knight lives in that castle over there?
Man: I'm thirty-seven!
Arthur: (suprised) What?
Man: I'm thirty-seven! I'm not old--
Arthur: Well I can't just call you "man"...
Man: Well you could say "Dennis"--
Arthur: I didn't know you were called Dennis!
Man: Well, you didn't bother to find out, did you?!
Arthur: I did say sorry about the "old woman", but from behind, you looked--
Man: Well I object to your...you automatically treat me like an inferior!
Arthur: Well I *am* king...
Man: Oh, king, eh, very nice. And 'ow'd you get that, eh?
(he reaches his destination and stops, dropping the cart)
By exploiting the workers! By 'angin' on to outdated imperialist dogma
which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society.
If there's ever going to be any progress,--
Woman: Dennis! There's some lovely filth down 'ere!
(noticing Arthur) Oh! 'Ow'd'ja do?
Arthur: How do you do, good lady. I am Arthur, king of the Britons. Whose
castle is that?
Woman: King of the 'oo?
Arthur: King of the Britons.
Woman: 'Oo are the Britons?
Arthur: Well we all are! We are all Britons! And I am your king.
Woman: I didn't know we 'ad a king! I thought we were autonomous collective.
Man: (mad) You're fooling yourself! We're living in a dictatorship! A
self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes--
Woman: There you go, bringing class into it again...
Man: That's what it's all about! If only people would--
Arthur: Please, *please*, good people, I am in haste! WHO lives in that
castle?
Woman: No one lives there.
Arthur: Then who is your lord?
Woman: We don't have a lord!
Arthur: (spurised) What??
Man: I *told* you! We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune! We're taking
turns to act as a sort of executive-officer-for-the-week--
Arthur: (uninterested) Yes...
Man: But all the decisions *of* that officer 'ave to be ratified at a
special bi-weekly meeting--
Arthur: (perturbed) Yes I see!
Man: By a simple majority, in the case of purely internal affairs--
Arthur: (mad) Be quiet!
Man: But by a two-thirds majority, in the case of more major--
Arthur: (very angry) BE QUIET! I *order* you to be quiet!
Woman: "Order", eh, 'oo does 'e think 'e is?
Arthur: I am your king!
Woman: Well I didn't vote for you!
Arthur: You don't vote for kings!
Woman: Well 'ow'd you become king then?
(holy music up)
Arthur: The Lady of the Lake-- her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite,
held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by
divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. THAT is why
I am your king!
Man: (laughingly) Listen: Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords
is no basis for a system of government! Supreme executive power
derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some... farcical
aquatic ceremony!
Arthur: (yelling) BE QUIET!
Man: You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some
watery tart threw a sword at you!!
Arthur: (coming forward and grabbing the man) Shut *UP*!
Man: I mean, if I went 'round, saying I was an emperor, just because some
moistened bink had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!
Arthur: (throwing the man around) Shut up, will you, SHUT UP!
Man: Aha! Now we see the violence inherent in the system!
Arthur: SHUT UP!
Man: (yelling to all the other workers) Come and see the violence inherent
in the system! HELP, HELP, I'M BEING REPRESSED!
Arthur: (letting go and walking away) Bloody PEASANT!
Man: Oh, what a giveaway! Did'j'hear that, did'j'hear that, eh? That's
what I'm all about! Did you see 'im repressing me? You saw it,
didn't you?!

[otherone]

Statists vs. anti-Statists, so what's really new? <shrug> :p

who advocate the abolition of capitalism, the state, wages, and private property ownership in favor of collective ownership of the means of production


Translation: THE STATE, comrade.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

I think we can all agree leftists would not do this in a state that had easy CCW.

[pcosmar]

the unleashing of the Brownshirt.


did any watch Ukraine ?

[RestorationOfLiberty]

the unleashing of the Brownshirt.


did any watch Ukraine ?

Dude the "nazis" had a permit to protest and the leftist did what they did best "Shut it down".

[pcosmar]

Dude the "nazis" had a permit to protest and the leftist did what they did best "Shut it down".

"Dude"

I did not say which phukin' idiots were or were not brownshirts.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

"Dude"

I did not say which phukin' idiots were or were not brownshirts.

Valid point, my bad.

[RandallFan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd6PW_BD0Sg#t=7m11s

Alex Jones discusses.

[Smitty]

Those silly children are feeling empowered because of the success they've had against docile, non confrontational, conservatives. They're cocky enough to play their game using 2X2 pine sticks.

They can get away with that to an extent as long as they keep it confined to the west coast. But I hope they know enough not to try to bring it into flyover country.

That game isn't played with sticks in the heartland.

[RonPaulMall]

Watched a few videos. Still haven't found anything showing the actual "rally", but lots of the violence. Seems that the leftist protestors essentially bring clubs disguised as flag poles. The RT footage is kind of ironic, as they talk about the neo-Nazis coming prepared for violence, yet the only footage they have to show is the leftists swinging their "flag poles".

The neo-nazis apparently disarmed the communists and used their weapons against them. Total tally was 5 communists hospitalized with stab wounds vs only one neo-nazi, which is pretty impressive given the weapons were entirely in the possession of the communists at the start and they outnumbered the neo-nazis nearly 10-1.

[Brian4Liberty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd6PW_BD0Sg#t=7m11s

Alex Jones discusses.

Brief, but about right, idiots vs idiots, but it served it's purpose. A couple of days of media coverage intended to distract, divide and push the leftist agenda.

[RandallFan]

The neo-nazis apparently disarmed the communists and used their weapons against them. Total tally was 5 communists hospitalized with stab wounds vs only one neo-nazi, which is pretty impressive given the weapons were entirely in the possession of the communists at the start and they outnumbered the neo-nazis nearly 10-1.

These people along with their fed buddies train mma & knife fighting in their basement. The Bernie Bros train egg throwing & menacing people with knives.

[LibertyEagle]

Ok, seriously, this is horse crap.

The Communist organizations had been planning violence on this Neo-nazi permitted event for some time.

The Communists outnumbered them 10 to 1.

The Communists brought knives and other things for attacking the Neo-Nazis, or whatever they were at their permitted event.

The Neo-Nazis brought no weapons.

When they were attacked by the Communists, they were able to wrest their knives away from them. Which was pretty amazing since they were outnumbered 10 to 1.

As obnoxious as everyone may believe the "neo-nazis" to be, they had every right to be there. The Communists did not and they came there to kill people. If you support that, then none of you deserve any support when they come for you.

[otherone]

It makes me greatful for Ron Paul and probably even more so RPF. The truth is buried under a lot of $#@! fed by friends, family, teachers, politicians, media, and society in general. I imagine these people notice or 'feel' that something is wrong, but with the inherent belief that 'government = good' their conclusions, solutions, and actions are $#@!ed. I could've easily ended up as one of these $#@!bags.

yep.
The foundation of their belief system is flawed. Watching the media awkwardly juggle the Eric Garner (etal) story trying to look pro-cop without appearing anti-black was cringe-worthy.

[pcosmar]

As obnoxious as everyone may believe the "neo-nazis" to be, they had every right to be there. The Communists did not and they came there to kill people. If you support that, then none of you deserve any support when they come for you.

http://cdn.tradyouth.org/uploads/2016/06/29141839/sactospartans-768x432.jpg

Watched this shit play out in Ukraine recently.
I watched folks defend nazis then too.

I think the whole circus is stupid and not worth getting involved. let the stupid ones thin the herd.