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susano
06-18-2016, 01:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlxiDa0avFc

Actor/ role player

compensation: Per Hour Per Day
employment type: part-time

Location of work is Burlington, VT.
-Work dates are tentatively July 26th thru 31st.
-If interested, please contact our recruiter via email at; recruiter@fls-s.com
Duties (include, but not limited to)
• Support military in instructional exercises in a nearby location.
· Simulate (act in) various scripted situations with realism to assist military training.
• Applicants must live within 50 miles of the training locations and have their own transportation and be able to arrive at assembly areas on time.
• Role players will be Moulage (made-up) and transported to the appropriate sites.
• Be able to work long hours during various times of the day.
• Be physically capable of working in extreme weather conditions. Role players/Actors must be sufficiently fit to participate in training.
• Some role players/Actors will get extremely wet, prop clothing will be cut off and they will be scrubbed with brushes and a lot of water (possibly cold water).
• Be able to walk long distances and stand for extended periods.
• Be able to follow scripts and specific directions from FLSS staff and the military.
• Be able to read, write and speak English.
• Role Players/Actors be able to pass various background checks.
• Must be over 18 years old, all age groups are encouraged to apply.
All age groups over 18 years of age are welcome to apply.

Foreign Language Services Simulation, LLC. (FLSS) is a leading language services company providing language specialists and training specialists to various government agencies. FLSS dedicates itself to developing

http://vermont.craigslist.org/gov/5632625856.html

RJ Liberty
06-18-2016, 04:52 AM
Why is this in Political News? Is this even news? The military has hired crisis actors for decades.

Uriel999
06-18-2016, 11:05 AM
Why is this in Political News? Is this even news? The military has hired crisis actors for decades.

Because every time a crazy douche canoe goes crazy from his SSRI's or he feels like getting his jihad on, some people simply can't accept that people go nuts from time to time and want to harm as many people as possible.

These people on one hand say how ineffective government is at doing well...anything, but on the opposite side of the coin say how the government is amazing at these conspiracies.

It could be common core math. Mass Shooter = Evil, Government = Evil, therefore Mass Shooter = Government.

People need to get their heads out of their asses. These events are not fake, yes we landed on the moon, and Elvis is dead.

Instead of making shit up for the sake of making shit up and looking crazy we should all remember that the government will "never let a good crisis go to waste."

Common themes behind these attacks: SSRI's, Islam, feelings of alienation and dispair, dellusions of grandeur, essentially being losers, etc.

MelissaWV
06-18-2016, 11:16 AM
It sounds like a chemical response drill. We have these locally, and the Moulage aspect is great for local artists who want to get into creature design. Personally, I wouldn't want to participate. Being out in the heat, then doused and scrubbed with super cold water, and finally triaged and transported someplace... not my idea of a good time.

While I agree with Uriel that it's cringeworthy when people try to use these things to predict an attack or some sort of event, it would be good for some people to keep an archive of these ads someplace. Like all want ads, once the position is filled or the event is over, they tend to disappear. Also, if you think it's really the precursor to some huge event, why not try to become a crisis actor yourself? You'd be making money, and then when you're a part of a false flag, you can expose them for all the world to see (or you'd just make money and realize that there are literally dozens of drills using crisis actors across the country every week).

susano
06-18-2016, 06:10 PM
Because every time a crazy douche canoe goes crazy from his SSRI's or he feels like getting his jihad on, some people simply can't accept that people go nuts from time to time and want to harm as many people as possible.

These people on hand say how ineffective government is at doing well...anything, but on the opposite side of the coin say how the government is amazing at these conspiracies.

It could be common core math. Mass Shooter = Evil, Government = Evil, therefore Mass Shooter = Government.

People need to get their heads out of their asses. These events are not fake, yes we landed on the moon, and Elvis is dead.

Instead of making $#@! up for the sake of making $#@! up and looking crazy we should all remember that the government will "never let a good crisis go to waste."

Common themes behind these attacks: SSRI's, Islam, feelings of alienation and dispair, dellusions of grandeur, essentially being losers, etc.

These events are not fake


Riight. You have all the inside info and have seen the bodies. You know, like at Sandy Hook where one kid who was allegedly killed was also killed two years later in Pakistan. Sandy Hook where one alleged parent also played an FBI SWAT team member. Sandy Hook where one alleged father claimed the only thing his precious little kiddo ever wanted was for only police and military to have guns. Only an undiscerning sheep could fall that bullshit.

It's absurd to make such a statement as "these events are fake" when you don't know and, quite obviously, have not taken the time to research them.

RonPaulGeorge&Ringo
06-18-2016, 06:12 PM
we landed on the moon

Wow, you've been to the moon?!

That sounds like a cool story. What was it like when you were there?

susano
06-18-2016, 06:29 PM
A December 1st craigslist ad looking for 30 people age 20-71 to do background work on same day as shooting, location: Highland CA and San Bernardino CA. Wavers upon penalty of perjury must be signed.

http://investmentwatchblog.com/a-december-1st-craigslist-ad-looking-for-30-people-age-20-71-to-do-background-work-on-same-day-as-shooting-location-highland-ca-and-san-bernardino-ca-wavers-upon-penalty-of-perjury-must-be-signed/

erowe1
06-18-2016, 06:34 PM
Riight. You have all the inside info and have seen the bodies. You know, like at Sandy Hook where one kid who was allegedly killed was also killed two years later in Pakistan. Sandy Hook where one alleged parent also played an FBI SWAT team member. Sandy Hook where one alleged father claimed the only thing his precious little kiddo ever wanted was for only police and military to have guns. Only an undiscerning sheep could fall that bull$#@!.

It's absurd to make such a statement as "these events are fake" when you don't know and, quite obviously, have not taken the time to research them.

Also, Uriel is neglecting to give due consideration to the fact that when the secret conspirators who control the world do these false flags, they advertise for co-conspirators ahead of time in Craigs List.

susano
06-18-2016, 06:34 PM
http://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/noah-p.jpg

Mystery: Sandy Hook Victim Dies (again) in Pakistan
Photo of child killed at Sandy Hook shows up at Pakistani school shooting
http://www.infowars.com/mystery-sandy-hook-victim-dies-again-in-pakistan/


But, but these events are not fake because the nooze says so.

pfft

susano
06-18-2016, 06:44 PM
David Wheeler, real life actor and grieving Sandy Hook dad playing FBI SWAT on the same day:

http://winteractionables.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Capture-4.gif

Then there was Robbie Parker, less than 24 hrs after his kid was allegedly killed, enter this presser, LAUGHING, until he realized the cameras were rolling, at which point he straightened up and looked real sad:

http://somicom.com/media/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Screen-Shot-2016-01-20-at-3.05.18-AM.png

Sandy Hook is the most busted fake drama orchestrated to bring about gun there is. The only thing "not fake" about it is that it was real theater.

erowe1
06-18-2016, 06:47 PM
http://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/noah-p.jpg

Mystery: Sandy Hook Victim Dies (again) in Pakistan
Photo of child killed at Sandy Hook shows up at Pakistani school shooting
http://www.infowars.com/mystery-sandy-hook-victim-dies-again-in-pakistan/


But, but these events are not fake because the nooze says so.

pfft

I see these claims that the same person from one disaster was at others, and the pictures are always of obviously different people. It's like the conspiracy theorists go looking for examples of this and end up seeing what they decided beforehand they want to see.

susano
06-18-2016, 08:07 PM
I see these claims that the same person from one disaster was at others, and the pictures are always of obviously different people. It's like the conspiracy theorists go looking for examples of this and end up seeing what they decided beforehand they want to see.


Yeah, well is the same kid. When that was discovered, the professional debunkers tried to explain it away by saying the locals in Pakistan wanted to honor kids from other school shootings. In this case, "other kids from other shootings" was ONE kid and the debunkers, as usual, were lying their asses off to protect the Sandy Hook fraud.

You want to play stupid and perpetuate the lies, good luck with that.

donnay
06-18-2016, 09:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVEqdH7QGWs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExIhb5GEqWA

Love City, Jalalabad (2013)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3004140/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5753533/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t23

erowe1
06-18-2016, 09:22 PM
Yeah, well is the same kid. When that was discovered, the professional debunkers tried to explain it away by saying the locals in Pakistan wanted to honor kids from other school shootings. In this case, "other kids from other shootings" was ONE kid and the debunkers, as usual, were lying their asses off to protect the Sandy Hook fraud.

You want to play stupid and perpetuate the lies, good luck with that.

Got any evidence, besides your Craigs List ad?

susano
06-18-2016, 09:49 PM
Got any evidence, besides your Craigs List ad?


I just gave it to you. The photo of the kid with the fleece collar, claimed to have been killed in Pakistan, is the same kid presented as "Noah Pozner", killed at Sandy Hook.

Don't know what you mean about a Craigslist ad. There's wasn't one, AFAIK, with Sandy Hook but there was with San Bernardino. It is what is. There may have been others posted prior to mass shootings but I don't know.

RJ Liberty
06-18-2016, 11:51 PM
I live near a military base. These crisis actors are common here. The mother of one of my former girlfriends was an on-call crisis actor and military role-player, ten or fifteen years ago. It was commonplace then, and is commonplace now. It's not news, or hush-hush, or secret in any way. The military has been doing these types of training drills for a long time.

dannno
06-19-2016, 01:26 AM
I see these claims that the same person from one disaster was at others, and the pictures are always of obviously different people. It's like the conspiracy theorists go looking for examples of this and end up seeing what they decided beforehand they want to see.

So you don't think Noah Pozner, in the picture below:

https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/opinion/editorialopinion/2013/01/22/mallick_why_newtown_victim_noah_pozner_had_an_open _coffin/noah_pozner.jpg

Looks like Noah Pozner, in the picture below?

http://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/noah-p.jpg

If that's your position, then maybe you need an eye test or something.

Zippyjuan
06-19-2016, 03:22 AM
It was photoshopped into that image. Original:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CHFBnErOjrA/VOATOXvQqpI/AAAAAAAAAS8/uIj808Kh4iY/s1600/people-standing-real.png

http://sandyhookers.blogspot.com/2015/01/noah-pozner-in-pakistan-debunked.html

dannno
06-19-2016, 03:37 AM
It was photoshopped into that image. Original:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CHFBnErOjrA/VOATOXvQqpI/AAAAAAAAAS8/uIj808Kh4iY/s1600/people-standing-real.png

http://sandyhookers.blogspot.com/2015/01/noah-pozner-in-pakistan-debunked.html

Is that little kid holding a gun??

Did they misspell DEFENDERS?

dannno
06-19-2016, 03:44 AM
Do you have the originals of these, too?

http://1tjy1il8myg2badl72uj53gv.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/bbc-pozner2-600x310.jpg

http://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/pozner-fb1.jpg

pcosmar
06-19-2016, 09:30 AM
The thing that "bothers" me,, is not that Crisis Actors exist.

But that they seem to be where things go wrong a lot.. and/or "training scenarios" seem to coincide with events.

I look at it from another angle..
What if someone is using these staged events to wreck havoc? rather than the other way round.

There have been too many documented to discount.

I would be very hesitant about being in any vicinity where such training is scheduled.

MelissaWV
06-19-2016, 10:38 AM
No, seriously. If this is happening, why aren't some of you trying to infiltrate and break this story wide open? It doesn't seem like it'd be that hard to record your experiences in some form or another, or come forward after you're part of the event.

* * *

We had two training exercises this week. No mass shootings or other incidents.

pcosmar
06-19-2016, 10:56 AM
No, seriously. If this is happening, why aren't some of you trying to infiltrate and break this story wide open? It doesn't seem like it'd be that hard to record your experiences in some form or another, or come forward after you're part of the event.





I would be very hesitant about being in any vicinity where such training is scheduled.

* * *

We had two training exercises this week. No mass shootings or other incidents.

I'm sure most don't.
But the same faces telling different stories in several incidents does seem that the chances increase in the vicinity where drills take place.

I would avoid any I was aware of.

erowe1
06-19-2016, 12:50 PM
I just gave it to you. The photo of the kid with the fleece collar, claimed to have been killed in Pakistan, is the same kid presented as "Noah Pozner", killed at Sandy Hook.

Don't know what you mean about a Craigslist ad. There's wasn't one, AFAIK, with Sandy Hook but there was with San Bernardino. It is what is. There may have been others posted prior to mass shootings but I don't know.

So far you have produced zero sources quoting anyone from Pakistan claiming that he was killed there.

erowe1
06-19-2016, 12:54 PM
So you don't think Noah Pozner, in the picture below:

https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/opinion/editorialopinion/2013/01/22/mallick_why_newtown_victim_noah_pozner_had_an_open _coffin/noah_pozner.jpg

Looks like Noah Pozner, in the picture below?

http://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/noah-p.jpg

If that's your position, then maybe you need an eye test or something.

You're showing photographs that have photographs in them, none of which are photographs of people at the scene of any disaster. Those prove nothing.

I'm talking about pictures that were taken of people at various events when they happened, that I've seen people claim to have been pictures of the same person (ostensibly an actor) appearing at multiple scenes of mass murder.

donnay
06-19-2016, 05:10 PM
James Wesley Howell: Did he just reveal a government plot to terrorize gay communities across the USA?

Posted on June 18, 2016 by State of the Nation

This story could be the smoking gun for false-flag operations

Santa Monica; Two police officers who wish to remain anonymous for fear of retaliation say that James Wesley Howell, an Indiana man who was found with a car full of explosives and weapons on Sunday morning, told police he was part of a team that planned shooting attacks on gay communities in Florida and California.

Howell told police he was turning himself in because he wanted protection. His story was that he had been assured by his recruiters that he would not be harmed in the shooting but, when he heard on the news that Omar Mateen, the lead gunman in the Orlando group, had been killed by sniper fire, he realized he was being set up as a patsy and would be killed.

Soon after that, the FBI took over the investigation, and information to the public was filtered to remove any facts that might show the Orlando shooting as a planned event involving others. GetOffTheBS 2016 Jun 15

It is important to remember that the police officers who are the source of this story choose to remain anonymous, so it cannot be independently verified at this time, but circumstantial evidence supports it. For example:

(1) After the FBI took charge of the investigation, Police Chief Jacqueline Seabrooks changed her original report that Howell was part of a group of five people who intended to do harm at the gay-pride event in West Hollywood. Her altered report made no mention of anyone other than Howell.

(2) The web site that reported this story is still carrying the article without triggering legal action against it. That is significant because, if the story is false, immediate legal action would be expected. If it is true, Howell will be killed or ‘disappeared’ to prevent him from talking, but the last thing the perpetrators would want is a public trial where witnesses can be called to testify.

This news story could be one of the most important reports ever published in the annals of journalism.

That’s quite a statement but, when you consider the nature of its content, it is no exaggeration to say that it has the potential to fundamentally change the relationship between the United States government and the American people, and that could lead to a profound change, not only in America, but the entire world.

The story still is still unfolding, and it is likely that officialdom either will pull it off the Internet or do everything possible to discredit it but, unlike most false-flag scenarios, there are many people on the outside of the plot who can verify the accuracy of this one. In fact, there may even be an entire police department to do that. If so, the sheer number of witnesses could outweigh the threats against job security or physical safety. We shall see.

G. Edward Griffin
2016 June 17

Ref. (Papertrail)
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=40623
http://needtoknow.news/archives/2016-2/2016-06-17/
http://getoffthebs.com/five-suspects-involved-in-planned-attacks/

H/T: Brocke

devil21
06-19-2016, 05:19 PM
Same day as beginning of DNC, in Bernie's home state no less. Probably nothing but something to tuck away just in case. Sounds like a nuclear or chemical drill. That's about the only scenarios where cutting off clothing, scrubbing and spraying masses with cold water would be necessary. G4S manages security for a lot of nuclear sites.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=899mYLZ9iHk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2Ec20v7wX8

devil21
06-20-2016, 02:38 AM
It was photoshopped into that image. Original:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CHFBnErOjrA/VOATOXvQqpI/AAAAAAAAAS8/uIj808Kh4iY/s1600/people-standing-real.png

http://sandyhookers.blogspot.com/2015/01/noah-pozner-in-pakistan-debunked.html

OK. I demand a new Zippy. I reached my threshold for bs on that one.

Danke
06-20-2016, 04:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to4LPCgcP5A

susano
06-20-2016, 12:07 PM
It was photoshopped into that image. Original:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CHFBnErOjrA/VOATOXvQqpI/AAAAAAAAAS8/uIj808Kh4iY/s1600/people-standing-real.png



http://sandyhookers.blogspot.com/2015/01/noah-pozner-in-pakistan-debunked.html


No, it wasn't and I'm sure you know that and are trying to do damage control. His photo was shown all over news about the Pakistan shooting which is how it was spotted by so many people. The first response from the professional debunkers was to claim the Pakistanis were trying to honor other victims of school shootings because that photo IS the same kid as the character of Noah Pozner.

susano
06-20-2016, 12:12 PM
Ref. (Papertrail)
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=40623
http://needtoknow.news/archives/2016-2/2016-06-17/
http://getoffthebs.com/five-suspects-involved-in-planned-attacks/

H/T: Brocke


I don't know what to make of that. It could be planted disinfo intended to send people down rabbit holes to nowhere. Hard to say. I'm still not convinced the shootings were real. Have a look at this nutjob whose son was allegedly murdered in that club. It's very like many of the other interviews Anderson Cooper has done in other psyops-for-gun-control dramas. People who just lost a child, especially to murder, don't act like that:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhWM0dRG0ls

openfire
06-20-2016, 12:29 PM
Orlando Wrapup

Paul Craig Roberts

A few readers are still trying to help me to prove the official Orlando shooting story line. Unable to find videos of the massive presence of ambulances and Emergency Medical Technicians (EMT) that 50 dead people and 53 wounded people would require, readers are reduced to supplying me with telephone numbers of someone who might know something.

Amid conflicting reports of one shooter vs. several shooters, the proven presence of crisis actors on the scene, the substitution, as in Sandy Hook, of photos and names as proxies for bodies, the interviews by media of only one hospitalized shooting victim as proxy for the 52 others, internet reports that many of the alleged victims have no social media presence, etc. and so on, we are reduced to what strangers tell us on the telephone! This constitutes powerfu evidence that we cannot substantiate the story we are told.

As I said in the beginning, I do not know what happened or why. What I see in Orlando is the same pattern as in the other events: no bodies, questionable shootings, crisis actors, an official story set at the moment of the event’s announcement, no EMTs, conflicting testimony, no investigation by media, just endless repetition of a set story.

We know that governments lie in order to serve their agendas. To mention only a few recent proven government lies: the Gulf of Tonkin North Vietnamese attack on a US Navy ship, Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction, Assad’s use of chemical weapons, Iranian nukes, Russian invasion of Ukraine. These lies are monstrous. They resulted in wars that killed thousands of US soldiers and killed, maimed, and displaced millions of Vietnamese and Muslims, some of whom are now overrunning Europe as refugees from Washington’s wars. Other of the government’s lies brought risk of war with more powerful militaries such as Russia’s and Iran’s.

It seems to me that a government that will lie on this scale will lie on smaller scales as well, such as Orlando, Boston, San Bernandino.

If I had to bet on what Orlando is about, I would place my bet on gun control. Sandy Hook also led to a big push for gun control. The victims being children was a plus for gun control, but apparently 20 was not a large enough number. The absence of wounded children did not raise any questions. Lanza’s kill ratio was 100 percent. The Orlando shooter’s ratio was just under 50 percent.

The Orlando shooting produced a reported 103 casualties. Moreover, the victims are not children in a school, but people having fun in a night club. In other words, everyone is threatened by guns in the hands of lone nuts, but not by guns in the hands of authorities—despite the fact that US police killed more Americans during 8 years of the Iraq war than the US lost soldiers in combat.

Some time ago I wrote that the Second Amendment was the only remaining provision in the Bill of Rights, which became part of the US Constitution in order to protect citizens from government. I made the point that the Second Amendment is inconsistent with a police state and that as
Americans, Congress, and the legal community have accepted the police state, the Second Amendment would have to go, along with habeas corpus, due process, privacy, and all the rest.

I also noted how strange it is that progressives and the left-wing are on the side of the police state and want to disarm American citizens. The way the issue is now positioned, the “moral” element in the population demand gun control and only the immoral “gun nut” portion want to allow crazy people to continue mass slaughter.

Some time ago I concluded that the American people are too gullible to be capable of preserving liberty. Nevertheless, I have continued to try to help people break out of the Matrix that controls their consciousness.

One of the most frustrating aspects of many Americans is their naive disbelief in conspiracy because “someone would talk.” It boggles the mind that anyone would think that people involved in a successful conspiracy to achieve their agenda would blow the whistle on their success.

Uninvolved people who might stumble upon the conspiracy know that it is their voice against the government’s and that credibility, career, job, and perhaps life itself is at stake. Just look at the fate of whistleblowers who disclose government crimes. Despite their legal protection under US federal law, they are mercilessly prosecuted. Just look at the invective thrown at people such as myself who try to raise the public’s consciousness.

Moreover, there are people who talk, such as 118 firemen, policemen, first responders, and WTC maintanence personnel who were in the towers and report hearing and experiencing massive explosions one after the other. We even have an organization, Firemen for 9/11 Truth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uor8NhUr_90&feature=youtu.be

The chairman, vice chairman, and legal counsel of the 9/11 Commission talked. They said that the government lied to the committee, withheld information from the committee, and set the committee up to fail.

We even have the owner of the World Trade Center stating on TV that the decison was made to pull WTC Building 7. That means the building was wired for controlled demolition. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jPzAakHPpk

None of this talk had any impact. Media ignored it or explained it away. My favorite example is the media explanation of Silverstein’s statement on TV that the decision was made to pull the building. Media said that what Silverstein said or meant to say was that “the decision was made to pull the firemen out of the building.” There was no fire of any significance in the building, and there were no firemen in the building to be called out. Watching the building come down in a controlled demolition you do not see a building in flames.

Foreknowledge was also associated with WTC Building 7’s destruction. BBC TV reported the destruction of Building 7 about 20 minutes prior to its actual destruction with the BBC announcer shown standing in front of still standing Building 7. There are so many anomalies associated with Building 7 that the building’s destruction is not even mentioned in official reports.

Congress, the legal community, the President, and the American people did not demand an investigation based on the intriguing admissions and testimony from people intimately connected with the event.

The “dancing Israelis” also talked. These were the suspected Mossad agents who were observed filming and celebrating the airplane strikes on the towers. They were apprehended and arrested, but their obvious foreknowledge of the event did not fit the official story. They were quietly sent back to Israel where they appeared on Israeli TV and said that they were sent to New York to film the event. You can witness this at about the 6 minute mark on this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStJ5BgadPs

Of course, the translation could be deceptive, but the subscripts are there in Hebrew, so anyone who knows Hebrew can see if they correspond.

There is another interesting element in this film at about the 5:45 mark, one that the film-maker does not notice. The film shows the film we have all seen of an airliner hitting one of the towers. Notice that the airplane enters the building without any damage to the airliner or the building and explodes only after it is inside the building. Notice that the airliner hits the tower at an angle that has been calculated to have resulted in impact with eight floors, each reported to contain an acre of concrete, plus all the steel girders and supports, and the airliner does not break apart. The film shows that the airliner just effortlessly enters the building. How is this possible? Wouldn’t the impact have resulted in the airliner breaking up and falling to the ground below? Why would the airliner explode only after it miraculously passed fully into the building and not upon impact with the building?

Consider how many years passed before anomalies such as this were even noticed.

In this video Jim Fetzer overviews recent events ascribed to terrorists. Whether or not he convinces you, it is worth watching just as a lesson in learning how to notice anomalies in official accounts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6PdSoNXwlM

Unless Amerians become more observant and act upon what they observe, American liberty is doomed.

An excellent Russian English language website that will add to your perspective is here:
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/06/20/orlando-wrap-up.html

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/06/20/orlando-wrap-up-paul-craig-roberts/

susano
06-20-2016, 12:47 PM
Is that little kid holding a gun??

Did they misspell DEFENDERS?


The blog is run by CW Wade, one several notorious internet trolls who harass people online who expose the Sandy Hook fraud. This is the group of people who went after James Tracy, the fired professor who runs the Memory Hole Blog.

What they did was photoshop the picture of the Arab (not Pakistani) kid into the school photo of the kid knows as "Noah Pozner" from the Sandy Hook show. These dumbasses don't even know an Arab from an Asian or who wears those read and white keffiyehs.

One of the members here has Zippyjuan quotes in his sig. They have ZJ saying he works for Jewish Democrat group and voted for Obama. IOW, he works for and supports the scum who perpetrated the fraud (Zionists and leftists).

donnay
06-20-2016, 12:50 PM
I don't know what to make of that. It could be planted disinfo intended to send people down rabbit holes to nowhere. Hard to say. I'm still not convinced the shootings were real. Have a look at this nutjob whose son was allegedly murdered in that club. It's very like many of the other interviews Anderson Cooper has done in other psyops-for-gun-control dramas. People who just lost a child, especially to murder, don't act like that:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhWM0dRG0ls

Her son allegedly was murdered and she seems way too happy. :rolleyes:

susano
06-20-2016, 12:50 PM
Is that little kid holding a gun??

Did they misspell DEFENDERS?


And, yeah, he's holding a gun. I believe he's Palestinian.

susano
06-20-2016, 01:05 PM
I live near a military base. These crisis actors are common here. The mother of one of my former girlfriends was an on-call crisis actor and military role-player, ten or fifteen years ago. It was commonplace then, and is commonplace now. It's not news, or hush-hush, or secret in any way. The military has been doing these types of training drills for a long time.

Nobody is saying it's not common. What I and others (online) have pointed out is that a lot of these dramas coincide with drills where crisis actors are used. There was a drill being held in San Bernardino at the same time as the "massacre". Another one was being held not far from Sandy Hook on the day of that drama, too. Some of the news footage of kids running from the school on that day was from different nearby school. The whole thing was fake.

susano
06-20-2016, 01:31 PM
You're showing photographs that have photographs in them, none of which are photographs of people at the scene of any disaster. Those prove nothing.

I'm talking about pictures that were taken of people at various events when they happened, that I've seen people claim to have been pictures of the same person (ostensibly an actor) appearing at multiple scenes of mass murder.


You responded to my posting about "Noah Pozner" and are now changing the subject to the issue the the same living players appearing at different shootings & terror dramas. That's another matter, which may or may not have merit.

Yes, it's a picture in a picture. So fucking what? All you ever saw of any alleged dead Sandy Hook kids were pictures. No family videos from when they were alive. In the day and age of people shooting video all of the time, none of these families had video with their precious kiddos, just still shots. In the Pakistan event it's also just pictures of the alleged victims.

susano
06-20-2016, 01:37 PM
So you don't think Noah Pozner, in the picture below:

https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/opinion/editorialopinion/2013/01/22/mallick_why_newtown_victim_noah_pozner_had_an_open _coffin/noah_pozner.jpg

Looks like Noah Pozner, in the picture below?

http://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/noah-p.jpg

If that's your position, then maybe you need an eye test or something.

In that tree drawing behind the kid, the writing across the top says "cultivating character" (lol, ironic) but Zippy's link claimed the writing was in Arabic.

Take note because Zippy has really outed himself with this deliberate attempt to mislead and do damage control for the perpetrators of the Sandy Hook hoax. Maybe Zippy gets paid by Michael Bloomberg.

erowe1
06-20-2016, 01:39 PM
You responded to my posting about "Noah Pozner" and are now changing the subject

I'm not changing the subject. You're now replying to something I wrote in reply to something someone else wrote (which, by the way, is still about Noah Pozner).

It's still the case that you've shown zero evidence to support any of your claims.


Yes, it's a picture in a picture. So $#@!ing what?

So it's totally meaningless and counts as evidence of absolutely nothing. Why do you not get this? Are you really that blind?

Zippyjuan
06-20-2016, 02:46 PM
The blog is run by CW Wade, one several notorious internet trolls who harass people online who expose the Sandy Hook fraud. This is the group of people who went after James Tracy, the fired professor who runs the Memory Hole Blog.

What they did was photoshop the picture of the Arab (not Pakistani) kid into the school photo of the kid knows as "Noah Pozner" from the Sandy Hook show. These dumbasses don't even know an Arab from an Asian or who wears those read and white keffiyehs.

One of the members here has Zippyjuan quotes in his sig. They have ZJ saying he works for Jewish Democrat group and voted for Obama. IOW, he works for and supports the scum who perpetrated the fraud (Zionists and leftists).

His sig is a joke. You can tell by my "hundreds" of Jewish threads. I said I voted for Obama nine times (obvious sarchasm which was left off).

susano
06-20-2016, 03:41 PM
I'm not changing the subject. You're now replying to something I wrote in reply to something someone else wrote (which, by the way, is still about Noah Pozner).

It's still the case that you've shown zero evidence to support any of your claims.



So it's totally meaningless and counts as evidence of absolutely nothing. Why do you not get this? Are you really that blind?

The photos of scenes in Pakistan, where Pakistanis are having vigils and put up billboards of their allegedly slain loved ones, that include the same kid from Sandy Hook, are from mainstream media's reporting of the Pakistani school shooting. Either you are being deliberately obtuse because you cannot fathom these things being hoaxes or you're just not understanding this.

Your "totally meaningless" remark about pictures applies to every single claimed victim, in any and all news reports, where we are shown photos of people who have been killed. The photo of the same kid from Sandy Hook and Pakistan school shootings is different in that we are being told the same person was killed twice, two years and thousands of miles apart. Nobody claimed the one in Pakistan was named Noah Pozner. They gave him a different there but it's the same kid with the same school interior behind him.

And ,yes, you tried change the subject to claims that the same live human beings have been sighted at various staged events.

susano
06-20-2016, 03:43 PM
Omar Mateen's acting credits and bio scrubbed from IMDB


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3q2n0efcK8

devil21
06-20-2016, 04:45 PM
And ,yes, you tried change the subject to claims that the same live human beings have been sighted at various staged events.

That is true. One of the more egregious examples: (good chance she's doing a lot of green screen interviews after the fact)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hGZM7heYKw

erowe1
06-20-2016, 04:52 PM
The photos of scenes in Pakistan, where Pakistanis are having vigils and put up billboards of their allegedly slain loved ones, that include the same kid from Sandy Hook, are from mainstream media's reporting of the Pakistani school shooting. Either you are being deliberately obtuse because you cannot fathom these things being hoaxes or you're just not understanding this.

It's you who don't understand it. How you can consider that evidence of anything honestly amazes me.

What is it you think happened? Whose picture do you think that really was? A boy who actually exists somewhere and was not Noah Pozner? And somehow the fact that his picture showed up in these Pakistani events is evidence of that?

Do you even have a single source where anyone from Pakistan ever claims to know who that boy was and that he was someone other than Noah Pozner?

dannno
06-20-2016, 04:56 PM
That is true. One of the more egregious examples: (good chance she's doing a lot of green screen interviews after the fact)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hGZM7heYKw

She was an Oregon protester as well..

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/yJtv6HOurLc/hqdefault.jpg

But according to erowe, this isn't the same person.. I mean, look, her glasses are different, she is wearing different color clothes and her head is tilted at a difference angle :rolleyes:

dannno
06-20-2016, 05:10 PM
It's you who don't understand it. How you can consider that evidence of anything honestly amazes me.

What is it you think happened? Whose picture do you think that really was? A boy who actually exists somewhere and was not Noah Pozner? And somehow the fact that his picture showed up in these Pakistani events is evidence of that?

Do you even have a single source where anyone from Pakistan ever claims to know who that boy was and that he was someone other than Noah Pozner?

Or maybe, just maybe, the shooting in Pakistan was a false flag training exercise and the kid in the picture and his family died 15 years ago in a freak accident that had nothing to do with guns.

erowe1
06-20-2016, 05:25 PM
Or maybe, just maybe, the shooting in Pakistan was a false flag training exercise and the kid in the picture and his family died 15 years ago in a freak accident that had nothing to do with guns.

Why would anyone think that? Who might that boy be? Does anyone in the world know? How does anything about these pictures suggest that as the slightest bit likely? And why in the world would anyone suppose that explanation over any number of much more ordinary ones that are each 100 times more likely?

More to the point, it is the fact that other explanations are so much more likely that means that these pictures count as evidence of nothing at all out of the ordinary.

dannno
06-20-2016, 05:27 PM
Why would anyone think that? Who might that boy be? Does anyone in the world know? How does anything about these pictures suggest that as the slightest bit likely? And why in the world would anyone suppose that explanation over any number of much more ordinary ones that are each 100 times more likely?

More to the point, it is the fact that other explanations are so much more likely that means that these pictures count as evidence of nothing at all out of the ordinary.

Considering how many of these incidents are at least partially staged false flags, I don't consider any of the explanations you would give any more likely.

openfire
06-20-2016, 05:51 PM
His sig is a joke. You can tell by my "hundreds" of Jewish threads. I said I voted for Obama nine times (obvious sarchasm which was left off).

http://i.imgur.com/WdDMhij.jpg?1

openfire
06-20-2016, 06:12 PM
http://i.imgur.com/F18AeHy.jpg?1

Danke
06-20-2016, 06:19 PM
http://i.imgur.com/WdDMhij.jpg?1

Someone here set up some dummy accounts at DU using the usernames of RPF members.

openfire
06-20-2016, 06:22 PM
Someone here set up some dummy accounts at DU using the usernames of RPF members.

ty

sorry zippy

susano
06-20-2016, 08:35 PM
That is true. One of the more egregious examples: (good chance she's doing a lot of green screen interviews after the fact)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hGZM7heYKw

I've seen that and lots of others. Some seem highly likely, like this woman, but others, imo, are disinfo to discredit the real finds. Like 9/11, it's a minefield and you have to be very discerning. There's a site called "nodisinfo" that is full of disinfo that has a lot of these.

susano
06-20-2016, 08:38 PM
It's you who don't understand it. How you can consider that evidence of anything honestly amazes me.

What is it you think happened? Whose picture do you think that really was? A boy who actually exists somewhere and was not Noah Pozner? And somehow the fact that his picture showed up in these Pakistani events is evidence of that?

Do you even have a single source where anyone from Pakistan ever claims to know who that boy was and that he was someone other than Noah Pozner?


Oh, ffs. I'm not playing your games.

susano
06-20-2016, 08:39 PM
She was an Oregon protester as well..

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/yJtv6HOurLc/hqdefault.jpg

But according to erowe, this isn't the same person.. I mean, look, her glasses are different, she is wearing different color clothes and her head is tilted at a difference angle :rolleyes:

Wow! Is there video of her in Oregon? I'd like to see her animated and hear her voice.

susano
06-20-2016, 08:43 PM
http://i.imgur.com/WdDMhij.jpg?1

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to openfire again

susano
06-20-2016, 08:45 PM
Someone here set up some dummy accounts at DU using the usernames of RPF members.


That aside, if it posts like a duck...

Danke
06-20-2016, 08:51 PM
Wow! Is there video of her in Oregon? I'd like to see her animated and hear her voice.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJtv6HOurLc

lilymc
06-20-2016, 08:53 PM
Her son allegedly was murdered and she seems way too happy. :rolleyes:

Speaking of odd behavior... I'm reminded of this classic.

(I'm pretty sure this was the day after the shooting... if not sooner. Who does tv interviews immediately after their mother is mowed down in a mass murder, then act likes that?)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68we3aP_UNE

susano
06-20-2016, 09:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJtv6HOurLc

Holy shit, she's all over the place!

And, check out where she going to be appearing:

http://www.newtownartsfestival.com/victoria-mu%C3%B1oz

And the guy being interviewed mentioned her being at the San Bernardino deal?!

susano
06-20-2016, 09:51 PM
Speaking of odd behavior... I'm reminded of this classic.

(I'm pretty sure this was the day after the shooting... if not sooner. Who does tv interviews immediately after their mother is mowed down in a mass murder, then act likes that?)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68we3aP_UNE

Yes, and they did another interview where they repeated the same stuff like they'd memorized a script. Those kids were like so over their mother's death just one day after she was mowed down at church. Gotta move on, lol. Same for a family interviewed the day after San Bernardino. No emotions, whatsoever, moving on...

Sadly, the sheeple don't pay attention. They just absorb the programming, as in mind control. I have some nieces who are clueless about anything going in the world beyond whatever they hear on the news. One of was over shortly after Sandy Hook and I was telling her it was a hoax and she was incredulous. Then I showed her an interview with alleged parents, done just a couple of days after, and my niece was stunned. As a young mother, she knew immediately it was a fraud when she watched that couple all smiley and happily chatting with Anderson Cooper. Interviews with the Boston smoke bomb "victims" are just as abusrd. One with a young lady who allegedly had just lost her leg. It was done one week after and she was swinging that half leg all around the bed as though it had been gone for years which, I'm sure, it had. No pain, cracking jokes, totally adjusted to her leg being gone. There have to a lot of medical professionals who saw that and knew it was bullshit.

lilymc
06-20-2016, 10:13 PM
Yes, and they did another interview where they repeated the same stuff like they'd memorized a script. Those kids were like so over their mother's death just one day after she was mowed down at church. Gotta move on, lol. Same for a family interviewed the day after San Bernardino. No emotions, whatsoever, moving on...

Sadly, the sheeple don't pay attention. They just absorb the programming, as in mind control. I have some nieces who are clueless about anything going in the world beyond whatever they hear on the news. One of was over shortly after Sandy Hook and I was telling her it was a hoax and she was incredulous. Then I showed her an interview with alleged parents, done just a couple of days after, and my niece was stunned. As a young mother, she knew immediately it was a fraud when she watched that couple all smiley and happily chatting with Anderson Cooper. Interviews with the Boston smoke bomb "victims" are just as abusrd. One with a young lady who allegedly had just lost her leg. It was done one week after and she was swinging that half leg all around the bed as though it had been gone for years which, I'm sure, it had. No pain, cracking jokes, totally adjusted to her leg being gone. There have to a lot of medical professionals who saw that and knew it was bull$#@!.


Yeah, it's frustrating and kind of bizarre to me that so many people are still not seeing what's happening. It's like they're in a zombie-like state... not even questioning things that should raise red flags left and right.

Here's another one people should watch. Particularly the girl.... look at how she shrugs (starting at 1:02) as if to say, "Yeah, my mom died, but it's fine." It's so awkward, it's embarrassing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc9FuCQX42I

susano
06-20-2016, 11:22 PM
Yeah, it's frustrating and kind of bizarre to me that so many people are still not seeing what's happening. It's like they're in a zombie-like state... not even questioning things that should raise red flags left and right.

Here's another one people should watch. Particularly the girl.... look at how she shrugs (starting at 1:02) as if to say, "Yeah, my mom died, but it's fine." It's so awkward, it's embarrassing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc9FuCQX42I

Yeah, that's the San Bernardino one I was talking about. That was the day after good ole mom got blown away, haha! Who can buy this crap?

Have you ever seen any videos of Derren Brown, the mind fucker who had the UK show called Mind Control? Everyone should watch his videos and they'll see what "sheeple" really means.