DirectDemocracy
12-08-2007, 01:00 AM
It would be great to return our country to the way the founders intended when they wrote the Constitution though that is only bringing us back from bad to neutral.
Similar to someone who is being abused, the first step is to stop the abuse, but the step after that is to get into a better situation.
Similarly with our country, we have to stop the evil going on, but after we get rid of the evil, we have then fix the Constitution.
The problem is that there are flaws in the Constitution which is why we are in the position that we are in today. So we have to fix those flaws so that it will be much harder in the future for the Federal government to veer off so much from the Constitution.
A few examples that need fixing would be that the constitution has to be clarified so that the President can't just write Presidential orders. Similarly with the 2nd Amendment. It has to be clarified so that the left can't say that it only applies to militias.
The Constitution is not a document written or inspired by God. It is a contract between the government and the people. And if you had a business contract with someone you would never leave it as is for 220 years with as little change as our constitution has.
Therefore I propose to all Ron Paul supporters an idea. That while everyone else is working on promoting Ron Paul if there are any people out there interested in the next step and how we could get there we should talk about it under this post.
As we all know, it is very hard to change the Constitution given that it has to go through Congress and it is against their interests to line up with the people's interests.
Therefore I propose an idea I came across at this website: http://www.foavc.org/ The Idea is to look at Article 5 of the Constitution which offers 2 ways to amend the Constitution. One way is that Congress proposes an amendment and votes on it and then sends it to the states for their approval. The second way which has never been used in history is for the states is for a certain number of states to ask Congress to call a Convention and then at the convention have the states vote on Amendments they want. Why would the founders have put this in the Constitution if they didn't intend for it ever to be used. In fact many states have applied for this Convention or have applied for a convention for a certain amendment but Congress refused to call a convention because their excuse was that the states didn't all do it within a certain amount of time and the requests weren't the same.
In order to change the Constitution we would need a massive grassroots movement such as we see now with the Ron Paul Revolution where the people would put massive pressure in each state for their state's legislature to call a Constitutional Convention.
The first change they could make would be to make it easier for the state legislatures to change the Constitution by not making them ask Congress to call the Convention as the South did when they wrote their own Constitution which was the same as the U.S.'s except with little tweaks of problems with the original Constitution.
Examples of things that the states would vote for to change the Constitution that Congress wouldn't would be things that the states have already voted on to change the Constitution and sent them to Congress, but Congress never acted to change the Constitution. Examples would a balanced budget amendment, limited taxation, and apportionment.
The group "Friends of Article 5 of the Constitution" which I linked to higher up is run by a former chief judge of the Michigan Supreme Court. Also, Larry Sabato supports this idea. Here is a video of him talking about it:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2657766609062800867 He also set up a website dedicated to this idea and a few others to amend our Constitution. Here is the website: http://www.amoreperfectconstitution.com/
Similar to someone who is being abused, the first step is to stop the abuse, but the step after that is to get into a better situation.
Similarly with our country, we have to stop the evil going on, but after we get rid of the evil, we have then fix the Constitution.
The problem is that there are flaws in the Constitution which is why we are in the position that we are in today. So we have to fix those flaws so that it will be much harder in the future for the Federal government to veer off so much from the Constitution.
A few examples that need fixing would be that the constitution has to be clarified so that the President can't just write Presidential orders. Similarly with the 2nd Amendment. It has to be clarified so that the left can't say that it only applies to militias.
The Constitution is not a document written or inspired by God. It is a contract between the government and the people. And if you had a business contract with someone you would never leave it as is for 220 years with as little change as our constitution has.
Therefore I propose to all Ron Paul supporters an idea. That while everyone else is working on promoting Ron Paul if there are any people out there interested in the next step and how we could get there we should talk about it under this post.
As we all know, it is very hard to change the Constitution given that it has to go through Congress and it is against their interests to line up with the people's interests.
Therefore I propose an idea I came across at this website: http://www.foavc.org/ The Idea is to look at Article 5 of the Constitution which offers 2 ways to amend the Constitution. One way is that Congress proposes an amendment and votes on it and then sends it to the states for their approval. The second way which has never been used in history is for the states is for a certain number of states to ask Congress to call a Convention and then at the convention have the states vote on Amendments they want. Why would the founders have put this in the Constitution if they didn't intend for it ever to be used. In fact many states have applied for this Convention or have applied for a convention for a certain amendment but Congress refused to call a convention because their excuse was that the states didn't all do it within a certain amount of time and the requests weren't the same.
In order to change the Constitution we would need a massive grassroots movement such as we see now with the Ron Paul Revolution where the people would put massive pressure in each state for their state's legislature to call a Constitutional Convention.
The first change they could make would be to make it easier for the state legislatures to change the Constitution by not making them ask Congress to call the Convention as the South did when they wrote their own Constitution which was the same as the U.S.'s except with little tweaks of problems with the original Constitution.
Examples of things that the states would vote for to change the Constitution that Congress wouldn't would be things that the states have already voted on to change the Constitution and sent them to Congress, but Congress never acted to change the Constitution. Examples would a balanced budget amendment, limited taxation, and apportionment.
The group "Friends of Article 5 of the Constitution" which I linked to higher up is run by a former chief judge of the Michigan Supreme Court. Also, Larry Sabato supports this idea. Here is a video of him talking about it:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2657766609062800867 He also set up a website dedicated to this idea and a few others to amend our Constitution. Here is the website: http://www.amoreperfectconstitution.com/