"We need socialism"

[Brian4Liberty]

Protesters waved Mexican flags and one could be seen burning an American flag, with another burning Trump's "Make America Great Hat." Some chanted "F--- Donald Trump" and "Donald Trump has got to go" outside the San Jose Convention Center, where Trump held his rally.
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The protesters spilled into the nearby streets, with some standing on cars. Some held signs that read, "We need socialism"...
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More: http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/02/politics/donald-trump-california-protesters/

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Apparently the "We need socialism" signs come from the PSL:

Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL) - The PSL is a revolutionary Marxist party in the United States.

The Party for Socialism and Liberation believes that the only solution to the deepening crisis of capitalism is the socialist transformation of society. (http://www.pslweb.org/)


The following picture shows a "Revolucion" sign, which apparently comes from the "Revolutionary Communist Party (http://revcom.us/a/429/on-the-rise-of-donald-trump-and-need-and-possibility-for-real-revolution-en.html)":

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Ugly, bloody scenes in San Jose as protesters attack Trump supporters outside rally
By Sean Sullivan and Michael E. Miller June 3 at 3:38 AM

SAN JOSE, Calif. —Protests outside a Donald Trump rally in downtown San Jose spun out of control Thursday night when some demonstrators attacked the candidate’s supporters.

Protesters jumped on cars, pelted Trump supporters with eggs and water balloons, snatched signs and stole “Make America Great” hats off supporters’ heads before burning the hats and snapping selfies with the charred remains.

Several people were caught on camera punching Trump supporters. At least one attacker was arrested, according to CNN, although police did not release much information.
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Trump supporters were surrounded and, in several cases, attacked as they left the rally.

In one incident captured on camera, a Trump supporter was struck hard over the side of the head as he was walking away from a group of protesters. The attack left him with blood streaming down his head and onto his shirt.
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Another Trump supporter was also bloodied after being attacked, his shirt torn almost completely off his body. Videos circulating on social media showed swirling, furious fights spilling from street corner to street corner, often with no police in sight.

Marcus DiPaola, a freelance photographer following the Trump campaign, posted video of someone getting punched violently in the face.

I called 911 but no one answered. Donald trump protest in San Jose, CA pic.twitter.com/LwaWyeYZfq

— Marcus DiPaola (@marcusdipaola) June 3, 2016
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Many of the protesters were peaceful. Some waved Mexican flags in an apparent response to Trump calling Mexican immigrants “rapists.”

According to the San Jose Mercury News, many of the protesters were Latinos from East San Jose opposed to what they saw as racism from the GOP candidate.

Protesters attack a man they mistakenly identified as a supporter of Donald Trump outside a Trump campaign rally on Thursday in San Jose, Calif. (Noah Berger/AP)
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Perhaps the most jarring scene was that of a young female Trump supporter being attacked by a crowd of protesters.

In multiple videos of the incident, the woman initially appeared to be happily posing in her Trump football jersey in front of the mostly male protesters, some of whom can be heard whistling and shouting at her.

Then an anonymous arm rises over the crowd and tosses an egg at the woman, striking her in the head and eliciting howls and laughter from the crowd.

A second later, a red water balloon bursts against the woman’s arm.

At first, the woman tries to shrug off the attacks, smiling while appearing to reach out toward the Mexican flags that some protesters are waving.

Objects keep crashing into the convention center windows behind her, however, and protesters can be heard screaming expletives at her.

Watch: The moment a Trump supporter, surrounded by protesters, is egged in the face, hit by other food. pic.twitter.com/qYFdwJWvrS

— Jacob Rascon (@Jacobnbc) June 3, 2016

Suddenly, another projectile strikes her hard in the face. Eventually, someone comes to help her and, after she indicates that she is having trouble seeing, she is ushered back inside the convention center.
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More: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/06/03/ugly-bloody-scenes-in-san-jose-as-protesters-attack-trump-supporters-outside-rally/

[phill4paul]

Do people really go unarmed? Surely one of the victims "feared for their life." I'm pretty sure two or three dead comrades would have sent the rest scurrying into the alleys.

[DamianTV]

"We need Socialism" as much as we need a bunch of govt cronies who represent mega corporations to tell us all how to live every detail of our lives, at our expense.

[Brian4Liberty]

Do people really go unarmed? Surely one of the victims "feared for their life." I'm pretty sure two or three dead comrades would have sent the rest scurrying into the alleys.

They would love to see that happen. And one day, even if it doesn't happen, they will arrange for it to happen with false flag shootings. Revolutions generally follow the same patterns of escalation.

[Brian4Liberty]

Do people really go unarmed? Surely one of the victims "feared for their life." I'm pretty sure two or three dead comrades would have sent the rest scurrying into the alleys.

How would you like to be trapped in a enclosed, underground parking garage after an event?

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[luctor-et-emergo]

Living in a pretty socialist country... I can tell you, it's pretty hard trying to live without it. :(

[phill4paul]

How would you like to be trapped in a enclosed, underground parking garage after an event?

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The only thing I would be scared of in such a situation is how the government would deal with me afterwards. Ain't that a pisser?

[Ronin Truth]

Need socialism? Go to Venezuela! :p :rolleyes:

[Cleaner44]

I really don't need ignorant children telling me what I need.

I am so looking forward to the butthurt of liberals when Hillary loses.

[Brian4Liberty]

Need socialism? Go to Venezuela! :p :rolleyes:

PSL statement on the Venezuelan election (http://www.liberationnews.org/psl-statement-venezuelan-election/)


In fact, what is most needed in Venezuela is the rule of the working class; in Marxist terms, the dictatorship of the proletariat. In Venezuela, the progressive and pro-socialist forces of Chavismo hold the reins of government and have a strong influence in the military, but the power of the Venezuelan capitalist class has not been defeated. There is a kind of dual power in the country, two competing centers of power that represent opposing class interests.

Contrary to capitalist propaganda, the dictatorship of the proletariat — or to put it in another way, workers’ democracy — is the most democratic form of class rule because it represents the interests of the vast majority of society. Here in the supposedly “democratic” USA, we live under the dictatorship of the big capitalists — a tiny minority — who own all the productive wealth and decide what to do with it in their interests, not ours. Accompanying their economic power is an increasingly repressive state and mass incarceration.

The Bolivarian Revolution has been a great step forward for the people of Venezuela, Cuba and all of Latin America. The leaders have announced their intention to build a socialist society. We fully support them.

But the only way that the working class can actually take power is through a socialist revolution that “expropriates the expropriators” – that seizes the factories, banks, natural resources, means of distribution, and so on, most of which is in the hands of a tiny minority, the capitalist class. Such a revolution would break up the old state apparatus and fully consolidate power. A thoroughgoing socialist revolution is the only way that the productive wealth of society can be used to meet the needs of the people rather than enriching the few.

The leadership of the Bolivarian Revolution has had to function under the real conditions at hand. They have made great advances and contributions. It seems clear that neither Maduro, nor Chavez before him, believed that the requisite conditions had yet come into existence for carrying out such a revolution.

A socialist revolution cannot take place without society entering into a revolutionary situation or crisis, and revolutionary crises cannot be wished into being. They occur outside the control of either the ruling class or revolutionaries.

The Russian revolutionary leader Lenin described the conditions that bring about a revolutionary situation in a famous 1915 pamphlet, “The Collapse of the Second International.”
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[angelatc]

Do people really go unarmed? Surely one of the victims "feared for their life." I'm pretty sure two or three dead comrades would have sent the rest scurrying into the alleys.

Honestly, at this point, I'd be carrying a concealed weapon. Legally, of course. It's getting scary out there.

[Danke]

How would you like to be trapped in a enclosed, underground parking garage after an event?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDrzMGdYWZc

[bunklocoempire]

So is this the voluntary socialism, or is it the kind of socialism that man is really good at? You know, the kind with the gun?

Lemme guess...

[Ronin Truth]

So is this the voluntary socialism, or is it the kind of socialism that man is really good at? You know, the kind with the gun?

Lemme guess...

"The last move in politics is always to pick up the gun." -- R. Buckminster Fuller

[osan]

PSL statement on the Venezuelan election (http://www.liberationnews.org/psl-statement-venezuelan-election/)


Let me guess without even reading the quoted passage - Venezuela is failing because there isn't enough socialism. They need more. I would guess they will claim that capitalism remains a corrupting force and must be wiped out. Perhaps they are claiming the government isn't REALLY socialist, but rather under capitalist or other "counter revolutionary" influences.


They may even assert that Venezuela and other such nations will not be able to succeed until the entire world rests beneath the socialist umbrella.


How'd I do?

[Ronin Truth]

"We need socialism!" "Venezuela needs you!"

[GunnyFreedom]

Do people really go unarmed? Surely one of the victims "feared for their life." I'm pretty sure two or three dead comrades would have sent the rest scurrying into the alleys.

I try not to bet my life on correctly predicting the actions of mobs.

[Henry Rogue]

If they're for socialism, shouldn't they be supporting Trump?

[Ronin Truth]

If they're for socialism, shouldn't they be supporting Trump?

I'd SWAG that supporting Sanders would be the more natural choice.

[Henry Rogue]

I'd SWAG that supporting Sanders would be the more natural choice.

Either way, it's a win win for the leaches, protectionists and central planner advocates.

[GunnyFreedom]

Let me guess without even reading the quoted passage - Venezuela is failing because there isn't enough socialism. They need more. I would guess they will claim that capitalism remains a corrupting force and must be wiped out. Perhaps they are claiming the government isn't REALLY socialist, but rather under capitalist or other "counter revolutionary" influences.


They may even assert that Venezuela and other such nations will not be able to succeed until the entire world rests beneath the socialist umbrella.


How'd I do?

Pretty much nailed it, except they only talked about Bolivia and Cuba and do not mention the rest of the world at all.

[Brian4Liberty]

I really don't need ignorant children telling me what I need.


Hmmm. That sounds familiar. Bet a lot of people said that in Cambodia...


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[Ronin Truth]

How old were most of the Red Guard kiddoes of Mao's Cultural Revolution?

Got to get 'em young and stupid. :p

[Anti Federalist]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5001&d=1464986544

Almost a perfect match to what I pictured in my mind's eye.

http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/burn-books-ban-music-hate-blacks-murder-gays-become-symbol-of-hope-and-freedome-che-guevara.jpg

[r3volution 3.0]

If they're for socialism, shouldn't they be supporting Trump?

Or at least be indifferent between Trump and Hillary, who are about equally socialistic in their policies.

But I'm guessing these people (like Trump supporters, needless to say) don't really know/care about policies.

It's all muh feelz.

Muh egaltiarian feelz in this case.

In the case of Trumpkins, nationalistic feelz.

Feelz feelz everywhere and not a thought to think...

[susano]

Those are all brown people in that photo and this thread is racist.

[TheTexan]

It's a good thing America will never ever become socialist / communist / fascist / whatever

Because we're all about freedom and stuff

Trump 2016!

[susano]

I wish had the means to travel the country and be where every Trump event is scheduled. I'd bring boxes of communist flags and pass them out to the protestors while wearing my Che shirt. There's no doubt in my mind the dumb fucks would take them and wave them around. This would cause a major for the media :)