'Chilling' details about alleged Saudi involvement in 9/11 revealed in declassified documents

[Peace Piper]

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The newly-released material is said to largely resemble a top-secret report known as the '28 pages'

Independent.co.uk 14 May 2016

A series of declassified memos (https://www.archives.gov/research/9-11/commission-memoranda.html) have revealed details of interviews - described by investigators as “chilling” - from the inquiry into alleged support of the 9/11 terrorist attacks by Saudi Arabian officials.

According to a former Commission staff member, the newly released material largely duplicates a top-secret report known as the '28 pages', which reportedly includes sensitive findings relating to allged Saudi involvement in 9/11.

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The Towers "Collapse"

Fahad al-Thumairy, a 32-year-old Imam and former Saudi diplomat deported from the US in 2003 because of suspected terrorist links, was questioned in Saudi Arabia by members of the 9/11 Commission in February 2004.

A member of Commission staff later said “it was so clear Thumairy was lying,” according to The Guardian. “It was also so clear he was dangerous.” It is also reported that the investigators described the scene as "chilling".

When confronted with evidence of numerous phone calls between himself and Omar al-Bayoumi, a Saudi national who allegedly befriended two of the 9/11 hijackers, al-Thumairy denied any knowledge of Mr al-Bayoumi.

The document states that when Mr al-Thumairy was presented with more confrontational questions during the interrogation, “his posture changed noticeably”...snipped
Full Article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/chilling-details-about-alleged-saudi-involvement-in-911-revealed-in-declassified-documents-a7029326.html

9/11 Commission Memoranda for the Record (MFRs)

During the 9/11 Commission's investigation, commission staff conducted over 1200 fact-finding interviews. The MFRs are summaries of these interviews, and are available in the National Archives Catalog.

To quickly search for a name in this table, hold down the "Ctrl" and "F" keys, and then type in the name you are looking for in the search box that appears. Once you identify the MFRs that you would like to view, use the corresponding National Archives Identifier to search the National Archives Catalog.

https://www.archives.gov/research/9-11/commission-memoranda.html

http://9-11justice.com/

[ChristianAnarchist]

Never seen this pic before. Shows clearly the entire structure being turned to powder (except for steel). And what is that artifact shooting straight out to the right?? It doesn't even have a parabolic trajectory! Can't be a helicopter...

4971

[presence]

its a boat

lol

calm your tinfoil

[acptulsa]

I know a lot of people aren't fond of Michael Moore. I'm not either. But he did pack a lot of good information in Fahrenheit 9/11.

I own a copy. I think as many people as possible should.

[vita3]

When the Saud's stop sending the current brainwashed jihadists into Syria, humanity wins.

[erowe1]

Never seen this pic before. Shows clearly the entire structure being turned to powder (except for steel).

I can't even see the structure in there. Where do you see all that?


And what is that artifact shooting straight out to the right?? It doesn't even have a parabolic trajectory! Can't be a helicopter...

4971

A boat in the water.

[Ronin Truth]

Where are the unreleased 9/11 Pentagon strike videos confiscated by the FBI?

[Anti Federalist]

Slowly, over the years, the truth will come out.

9/11 was an inside job.

And, because the body politic of AmeriKa has the attention span of a gnat, by the time the truth is finally confirmed, nobody will give a flying fuck, and tyranny will be is the norm.

[Anti Federalist]

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[Ender]

Slowly, over the years, the truth will come out.

9/11 was an inside job.

And, because the body politic of AmeriKa has the attention span of a gnat, by the time the truth is finally confirmed, nobody will give a flying $#@!, and tyranny will be is the norm.

Yep.

[presence]

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It’s devastating. They’ll have to scrap many [corporate fraud] cases.
-- Carmen Lawrence, ex-SEC head

[ChristianAnarchist]

I can't even see the structure in there. Where do you see all that?



Not so much see as know. There is no steel that I can see in this picture so I assume it's falling straight down concealed by the lighter powder that I assume is composed of drywall, concrete, paper, wood, insulation and misc. I make this determination having seen the aftermath of tangled steel at GZ. Alot of assumptions but this picture shocked me because I've not seen such a clear shot from above showing the amount of pulverization of softer building materials. One has to wonder what kind of force can pulverize like that.





A boat in the water.

Thanks... Old eyes...

[donnay]

Senate passes bill allowing 9/11 victims to sue Saudi Arabia

The U.S. Senate passed legislation on Tuesday that would allow families of Sept. 11 victims to sue Saudi Arabia's government for damages, setting up a potential showdown with the White House, which has threatened a veto.

The Saudis, who deny responsibility for the 2001 attacks, strongly object to the bill. They had said they might sell up to $750 billion in U.S. securities and other American assets in retaliation if it became law.

The "Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act," or JASTA, passed the Senate by unanimous voice vote. It must next be taken up by the U.S. House of Representatives, where the Judiciary Committee intends to hold a hearing on the measure in the near future, a committee aide said.

If it became law, JASTA would remove the sovereign immunity, preventing lawsuits against governments, for countries found to be involved in terrorist attacks on U.S. soil. It would allow survivors of the attacks, and relatives of those killed in the attacks, to seek damages from other countries.

In this case, it would allow lawsuits to proceed in federal court in New York as lawyers try to prove that the Saudis were involved in the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-usa-congress-idUSKCN0Y8239

[r3volution 3.0]

This all sounds very familiar.

There was a lot about the alleged hijackers and their associates' relationship with Saudi officials in the original Commission Report.

I wonder what, if any, new information is really here.

[Zippyjuan]

Not so much see as know. There is no steel that I can see in this picture so I assume it's falling straight down concealed by the lighter powder that I assume is composed of drywall, concrete, paper, wood, insulation and misc. I make this determination having seen the aftermath of tangled steel at GZ. Alot of assumptions but this picture shocked me because I've not seen such a clear shot from above showing the amount of pulverization of softer building materials. One has to wonder what kind of force can pulverize like that.



Thanks... Old eyes...

Not including any contents, the building weighed 500,000 tons each and were 104 stories tall- roughly 5000 tons a floor. One was hit about the 90th floor and the other about the 80th floor. The collapse started on those levels. So if the 90th floor collapses, you basically have 50,000 tons falling say ten feet until it hits the floor below it. Each floor it collapses, it gains mass (another 5,000 tons) and gains speed of impact. That is a huge amount of force hitting each level of the building. That will pulverize a lot of things.

[Natural Citizen]

This is the best place for fun facts with regard to the physics of the event.

http://drjudywood.com/

[luctor-et-emergo]

Not including any contents, the building weighed 500,000 tons each and were 104 stories tall- roughly 5000 tons a floor. One was hit about the 90th floor and the other about the 80th floor. The collapse started on those levels. So if the 90th floor collapses, you basically have 50,000 tons falling say ten feet until it hits the floor below it. Each floor it collapses, it gains mass (another 5,000 tons) and gains speed of impact. That is a huge amount of force hitting each level of the building. That will pulverize a lot of things.

Yes that is a lot of force. The question is, how much of that force is expended in crushing materials and how much remains in the form of kinetic energy. That's one thing that bugs me a bit, these buildings fell down so symmetrically while the damage certainly could not be called symmetrical. Especially the South Tower, you can see the top tilting away from the rest of the building yet it doesn't rotate much further and pretty much disintegrates before it hits the ground. The symmetric nature of the collapse is just mind blowing. It's arguably as symmetrical as many intentional demolitions.

And then we have building 7.

I don't know what really happened but, bring out the documents so we can lay this to rest.

[Peace Piper]

I know a lot of people aren't fond of Michael Moore. I'm not either. But he did pack a lot of good information in Fahrenheit 9/11.

I own a copy. I think as many people as possible should.

You might like this- it's long but very very good


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=y5UyynjxAyw


Killing Auntie Films - INCONTROVERTIBLE

INCONTROVERTIBLE is the first and only feature length documentary we have which portrays the frank and candid views of Police Officers, Firefighters and Soldiers as they express their grave concerns about the official explanation for the events of 9/11. The film is intended to act as a practical aid in combating the mainstream media's propaganda and outright lies concerning the attacks on September 11th 2001.

This film is intended to be viewed by Police Officers, Firefighters and all those serving in the Armed Forces as they are the among the best placed members of our society to have the ability to change things for the better. If you have friends or family who are serving then please pass this film onto them.
http://www.incontrovertible911evidence.co.uk/

It was produced by this Brit who cares more about truth than many Americans


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bHQPaAkIl0I

UK Man Wins Court Case Against BBC For 9-11 WTC 7 Cover Up

Before It’s News — Sept 19, 2013

Tony Rooke refused to pay a TV license fee because the BBC intentionally misrepresented facts about the 9/11 attacks, he alleged. It is widely known that the BBC reported the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 over 20 minutes before it occurred. WTC 7 was a 47-story skyscraper that was not hit by a plane on 9/11 but collapsed at free-fall speed later that day.

So Rooke said the BBC had to have had prior knowledge to a terror attack making them complicit in the attack. He presented the BBC footage to the judge along with a slew of other evidence, and the judge agreed that Rooke had a reasonable case to protest. Rooke was found not guilty and he was not fined for failure to pay the licensing fee
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=80467

There is also this 6 hour masterpiece "September 11- The New Pearl Harbor"


https://youtu.be/O1GCeuSr3Mk

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/september-11-new-pearl-harbor/

8.9/10 star rating


"We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."-Karl Rove

[Peace Piper]

Not including any contents, the building weighed 500,000 tons each and were 104 stories tall- roughly 5000 tons a floor. One was hit about the 90th floor and the other about the 80th floor. The collapse started on those levels. So if the 90th floor collapses, you basically have 50,000 tons falling say ten feet until it hits the floor below it. Each floor it collapses, it gains mass (another 5,000 tons) and gains speed of impact. That is a huge amount of force hitting each level of the building. That will pulverize a lot of things.

From the NIST FAQ:

NIST’s findings do not support the “pancake theory” of collapse, which is premised on a progressive failure of the floor systems in the WTC towers (the composite floor system—that connected the core columns and the perimeter columns—consisted of a grid of steel “trusses” integrated with a concrete slab; see diagram). Instead, the NIST investigation showed conclusively that the failure of the inwardly bowed perimeter columns initiated collapse and that the occurrence of this inward bowing required the sagging floors to remain connected to the columns and pull the columns inwards. Thus, the floors did not fail progressively to cause a pancaking phenomenon.
http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/faqs_wtctowers.cfm

Physics:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1Zyp-fYMe_w

Few know that NIST was called out for an "error" RE: WTC 7.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Rkp-4sm5Ypc

Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iXTlaqXsm4k

Part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=v3mudruFzNw

[acptulsa]

This is the best place for fun facts with regard to the physics of the event.

http://drjudywood.com/

That one certainly raises the noise side of the signal/noise ratio.

Nothing like poking around the Star Wars ramblings of someone who is purporting to talk about physics in a serious manner, yet seems perpetually surprised by such simple concepts as, steel shields things from heat, so of course it's possible for paint to still stick to a sheet when there has been a fire on the other side; of course paint peeling from hot steel looks like delamination, that's essentially what it is; car door handles are made from plastic these days; door handles can melt out of doors and engines can melt out of cars because plastic and aluminum alloys have lower melting points than steel; shiny paint sticking to cars on the end that didn't burn happens all the time; paper can avoid burning just a couple of feet away from a fire because no matter how hot the fire, the heat can dissipate quickly enough not to heat the paper to 451 Fahrenheit; compressed paper can avoid burning in a fire because if the oxygen cannot get in, fire cannot happen; steel always looks rusty after a fire because fire is oxidation, rust is oxidation, and heat accelerates rusting; and the classic error deliberately perpetuated by the "debunker" sites, that isn't smoke it's dust misidentified as smoke.

It takes more than a grain of salt to wade through that stuff looking for something relevant. It's long on 'fun', short on facts. If she isn't deliberately obscuring facts in a cloud of irrelevancies, she's certainly making a good useful idiot of herself.

[donnay]

Senate passes bill allowing 9/11 victims to sue Saudi Arabia

The U.S. Senate passed legislation on Tuesday that would allow families of Sept. 11 victims to sue Saudi Arabia's government for damages, setting up a potential showdown with the White House, which has threatened a veto.

The Saudis, who deny responsibility for the 2001 attacks, strongly object to the bill. They had said they might sell up to $750 billion in U.S. securities and other American assets in retaliation if it became law.

The "Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act," or JASTA, passed the Senate by unanimous voice vote. It must next be taken up by the U.S. House of Representatives, where the Judiciary Committee intends to hold a hearing on the measure in the near future, a committee aide said.

If it became law, JASTA would remove the sovereign immunity, preventing lawsuits against governments, for countries found to be involved in terrorist attacks on U.S. soil. It would allow survivors of the attacks, and relatives of those killed in the attacks, to seek damages from other countries.

In this case, it would allow lawsuits to proceed in federal court in New York as lawyers try to prove that the Saudis were involved in the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-usa-congress-idUSKCN0Y8239


Bob Graham: 9/11 support goes to the top of Saudi government
https://www.yahoo.com/news/bob-graham-on-declassifying-portions-of-the-911-163328582.html?ref=gs

[Natural Citizen]

That one certainly raises the noise side of the signal/noise ratio.

Nothing like poking around the Star Wars ramblings of someone who is purporting to talk about physics in a serious manner, yet seems perpetually surprised by such simple concepts as, steel shields things from heat, so of course it's possible for paint to still stick to a sheet when there has been a fire on the other side; of course paint peeling from hot steel looks like delamination, that's essentially what it is; car door handles are made from plastic these days; door handles can melt out of doors and engines can melt out of cars because plastic and aluminum alloys have lower melting points than steel; shiny paint sticking to cars on the end that didn't burn happens all the time; paper can avoid burning just a couple of feet away from a fire because no matter how hot the fire, the heat can dissipate quickly enough not to heat the paper to 451 Fahrenheit; compressed paper can avoid burning in a fire because if the oxygen cannot get in, fire cannot happen; steel always looks rusty after a fire because fire is oxidation, rust is oxidation, and heat accelerates rusting; and the classic error deliberately perpetuated by the "debunker" sites, that isn't smoke it's dust misidentified as smoke.

It takes more than a grain of salt to wade through that stuff looking for something relevant. It's long on 'fun', short on facts. If she isn't deliberately obscuring facts in a cloud of irrelevancies, she's certainly making a good useful idiot of herself.

Yeah, that stuff there on that page is geared toward a specific demographic. One with a completely different mindset/worldview. I like reading stuff like that, though. Sometimes you find of bit of truth tucked away in the most outlandish of places.