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angelatc
05-12-2016, 02:34 PM
http://www.nationallawjournal.com/id=1202757502968/Obama-Administration-Unlawfully-Reimbursed-Health-Insurers-Judge-Rules?cmp=share_twitter&slreturn=20160412160833

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/05/12/breaking-gop-wins-case-against-obamacare-insurer-subsidy-funding/


The Obama administration unlawfully paid billions of dollars to insurance providers under the Affordable Care Act without a funding appropriation from Congress, a federal district judge in Washington ruled on Thursday (http://nlj/NLJ%205-12-16%20Burwell%20opinion.pdf).


The insurance subsidies were designed to offset discounts that insurers were required to give eligible lower-income Americans under the health care reform law. U.S. District Judge Rosemary Collyer said federal agencies could not fund the subsidies through another section of the health care law that allocated money for tax credits.


“Paying out Section 1402 reimbursements without an appropriation thus violates the Constitution,” Collyer wrote. “Congress authorized reduced cost sharing but did not appropriate monies for it, in the FY 2014 budget or since. Congress is the only source for such an appropriation, and no public money can be spent without one.”



Its ok. Hillary will appoint a SCOTUS judge that will that last remaining thread of a Constitutional requirement.

LibertyRevolution
05-13-2016, 04:21 AM
I am at the point where I want a single payer model.
Medicaid for Low Income Adults has better coverage, no deductibles, no copay, and no premiums.

Just walk into a doctor or walk in and get treated, show them your card, costs $0.
Take your prescription to your drug store, show them your card, cost you $0 for your pills.

Need glasses? Cost $0 for a free eye exam and free pair of glasses every year.

Need dental work? Covers 1 cleaning a year plus any work that needs to be done at any time, x-rays, fillings, extractions, to root canals with porcelain crowns. $0.

Obamacare is pure fascist bullshit, forcing us to buy from a private company, with a ridiculously higher deductible and copay than what the government offers for free.

Suzu
05-13-2016, 07:20 AM
I am at the point where I want a single payer model.
Medicaid for Low Income Adults has better coverage, no deductibles, no copay, and no premiums.

Just walk into a doctor or walk in and get treated, show them your card, costs $0.
Take your prescription to your drug store, show them your card, cost you $0 for your pills.

Need glasses? Cost $0 for a free eye exam and free pair of glasses every year.

Need dental work? Covers 1 cleaning a year plus any work that needs to be done at any time, x-rays, fillings, extractions, to root canals with porcelain crowns. $0.

Obamacare is pure fascist bull$#@!, forcing us to buy from a private company, with a ridiculously higher deductible and copay than what the government offers for free.

This post is quite shy of the truth! I am one of those unfortunates who has been on Medicaid for a number of years, and I know how it works -- despite the fact that I avoid doctors as much as possible.

First of all, co-payments are asked for just about everything.

The only adult dental work covered is emergency extractions, and you first have to find a dentist who accepts Medicaid -- of whom there are very few.

Eye exams are once every two years, and that is very strictly enforced. Glasses only if you need a different prescription that what you already have, and the glasses will be very cheaply made -- the kind you would not buy if you could afford to pay for your glasses.

If you have a serious health concern, you receive only the most rudimentary treatment. The list of things Medicaid won't pay for is much, much longer than the things it will cover.

And there ARE premiums. The government pays them, but after you die, the government takes the premiums and everything it spent on your health care back from what you left behind. It won't force your surviving spouse out of the house under certain conditions, but it will attach a lien that will be collected eventually.

Seriously, folks, you do NOT want to live under such a system. It's only as good as it is now because the requirements to be on it are so exclusive. You can't have over $1k in assets aside from a house and a car. That means you can't have more than $1k in the bank at any given time. You can't own anything of value, like a piece of jewelry (other than a wedding band) or a musical instrument or even a cemetery plot. And your income has to be so low that you almost can't survive on it.

euphemia
05-13-2016, 07:25 AM
I am at the point where I want a single payer model.
Medicaid for Low Income Adults has better coverage, no deductibles, no copay, and no premiums.

Just walk into a doctor or walk in and get treated, show them your card, costs $0.
Take your prescription to your drug store, show them your card, cost you $0 for your pills.

Need glasses? Cost $0 for a free eye exam and free pair of glasses every year.

Need dental work? Covers 1 cleaning a year plus any work that needs to be done at any time, x-rays, fillings, extractions, to root canals with porcelain crowns. $0.

Basically all you did there was shift the payment to me. Thanks so very much.

Cleaner44
05-13-2016, 08:46 AM
I am at the point where I want a single payer model.
Medicaid for Low Income Adults has better coverage, no deductibles, no copay, and no premiums.

Just walk into a doctor or walk in and get treated, show them your card, costs $0.
Take your prescription to your drug store, show them your card, cost you $0 for your pills.

Need glasses? Cost $0 for a free eye exam and free pair of glasses every year.

Need dental work? Covers 1 cleaning a year plus any work that needs to be done at any time, x-rays, fillings, extractions, to root canals with porcelain crowns. $0.

Obamacare is pure fascist bull$#@!, forcing us to buy from a private company, with a ridiculously higher deductible and copay than what the government offers for free.

Would you also like a golden goose?

http://lybio.net/wp-content/uploads/Ron-Paul-Taxation-Is-Theft.jpg

donnay
05-13-2016, 09:31 AM
I am at the point where I want a single payer model.
Medicaid for Low Income Adults has better coverage, no deductibles, no copay, and no premiums.

Just walk into a doctor or walk in and get treated, show them your card, costs $0.
Take your prescription to your drug store, show them your card, cost you $0 for your pills.

Need glasses? Cost $0 for a free eye exam and free pair of glasses every year.

Need dental work? Covers 1 cleaning a year plus any work that needs to be done at any time, x-rays, fillings, extractions, to root canals with porcelain crowns. $0.

Obamacare is pure fascist bull$#@!, forcing us to buy from a private company, with a ridiculously higher deductible and copay than what the government offers for free.

Obama/Romneycare is nothing more than insurance companies dictating to people with government enforcing it.

Noob
05-13-2016, 01:13 PM
Medicaid is a loan that you have to pay back..

Slave Mentality
05-13-2016, 08:40 PM
I am at the point where I want a single payer model.
Medicaid for Low Income Adults has better coverage, no deductibles, no copay, and no premiums.

Just walk into a doctor or walk in and get treated, show them your card, costs $0.
Take your prescription to your drug store, show them your card, cost you $0 for your pills.

Need glasses? Cost $0 for a free eye exam and free pair of glasses every year.

Need dental work? Covers 1 cleaning a year plus any work that needs to be done at any time, x-rays, fillings, extractions, to root canals with porcelain crowns. $0.

Obamacare is pure fascist bullshit, forcing us to buy from a private company, with a ridiculously higher deductible and copay than what the government offers for free.

I don't want to pay for your shit. Simple enough.

phill4paul
05-13-2016, 08:43 PM
I am at the point where I want a single payer model.
Medicaid for Low Income Adults has better coverage, no deductibles, no copay, and no premiums.

Just walk into a doctor or walk in and get treated, show them your card, costs $0.
Take your prescription to your drug store, show them your card, cost you $0 for your pills.

Need glasses? Cost $0 for a free eye exam and free pair of glasses every year.

Need dental work? Covers 1 cleaning a year plus any work that needs to be done at any time, x-rays, fillings, extractions, to root canals with porcelain crowns. $0.

Obamacare is pure fascist bullshit, forcing us to buy from a private company, with a ridiculously higher deductible and copay than what the government offers for free.

You should pay the admin. for a name change.

LibertyRevolution
05-15-2016, 12:02 PM
This post is quite shy of the truth! I am one of those unfortunates who has been on Medicaid for a number of years, and I know how it works -- despite the fact that I avoid doctors as much as possible.

First of all, co-payments are asked for just about everything.

The only adult dental work covered is emergency extractions, and you first have to find a dentist who accepts Medicaid -- of whom there are very few.

Eye exams are once every two years, and that is very strictly enforced. Glasses only if you need a different prescription that what you already have, and the glasses will be very cheaply made -- the kind you would not buy if you could afford to pay for your glasses.

If you have a serious health concern, you receive only the most rudimentary treatment. The list of things Medicaid won't pay for is much, much longer than the things it will cover.

And there ARE premiums. The government pays them, but after you die, the government takes the premiums and everything it spent on your health care back from what you left behind. It won't force your surviving spouse out of the house under certain conditions, but it will attach a lien that will be collected eventually.

Seriously, folks, you do NOT want to live under such a system. It's only as good as it is now because the requirements to be on it are so exclusive. You can't have over $1k in assets aside from a house and a car. That means you can't have more than $1k in the bank at any given time. You can't own anything of value, like a piece of jewelry (other than a wedding band) or a musical instrument or even a cemetery plot. And your income has to be so low that you almost can't survive on it.

Your medicaid sounds like a garbage version then.

CT MLIA (medicaid for low income adults) has no copays for any visits or prescriptions and it covers all dental work.

Long has you have 0 income, there is no cost share. This is the trick, you have to earn no income on paper, then everything is free.

But yes, far as glasses go, you can only choose from only about 20 frame choices.

angelatc
05-15-2016, 12:58 PM
Your medicaid sounds like a garbage version then.

CT MLIA (medicaid for low income adults) has no copays for any visits or prescriptions and it covers all dental work.

Long has you have 0 income, there is no cost share. This is the trick, you have to earn no income on paper, then everything is free.

But yes, far as glasses go, you can only choose from only about 20 frame choices.

It is not free. You are stealing from other people. #taxationistheft

LibertyRevolution
05-15-2016, 09:29 PM
Medicaid is a loan that you have to pay back..

You are only liable for "long term care", so yes if you use medicaid to pay for a nursing home, kiss your estate goodbye.
Children that would place their parents into a nursing home don't deserve their parents estate when they die.



It is not free. You are stealing from other people. #taxationistheft

Sorry I lost my will to care about taxation being theft while I live in a country that uses tax money to kill other people, blow up their stuff, then pay their crony corporations with it to rebuild it.
When we stop wasting tax money on wars and giving it in aid to other countries, then you can bitch about how having a tax funded single payer healthcare system is bad.

Healthcare should be provided by the government, free and paperless for all citizens.
I want to see the entire industry demolished and rebuilt. No more insurance companies, no more private drug companies.

You want to practice medicine or do medical research, then you sign up for it as if you were going into a branch of the military.
They train you, then you have to work in a government run system for them, getting your government check.
Drug and medical research would be used for the benefit of all mankind, not to make a profit for your shareholders.
No more crazy pill prices and drug patents, no more insurance company bullshit.

I have come to the realization over the last 10 years that this country is fucked, Libertarian beliefs are dead.
There are only 2 choices in the countries future, Fascism or Socialism. Given the 2, I have decided that I favor Socialism.

Noob
05-18-2016, 05:02 PM
Stop the ObamaCare Bailouts!


Recently a federal judge ruled against the Obama Administration for circumventing Congress to bailout insurance companies who lost money peddling ObamaCare. But now the Obama Administration is trying to fight this in the upper more liberal courts.

The upper courts have failed us before, and we just can’t trust them to do the right thing. That’s why we’ve got to act now.

Contact Mitch McConnell and tell him to stop the ObamaCare bailouts.

http://fwact.org/hUIf04p