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Danke
05-04-2016, 02:31 PM
It’s the Anniversary of the One School Shooting the Govt Won’t be Ramming Down Your Throat

Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/kent-state/#pGbDagC7uK3kgRa4.99



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCS-g3HwXdc&ebc=ANyPxKqnw6NXtyonEVRw2SxJjc16uLg-EickXYKYADc8gV-ImTy8ryJpTNhGk4C1kc2Gu8AXKE4_oJjcvt_b7ugdBdqj-yMXdQ

phill4paul
05-04-2016, 02:34 PM
I love that headline...

It’s the Anniversary of the One School Shooting the Govt Won’t be Ramming Down Your Throat

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brushfire
05-04-2016, 02:47 PM
4 dead, 9 wounded - nobody held accountable... How them roads treatin' ya?




http://dept.kent.edu/sociology/lewis/lewihen.htm

The most important question associated with the events of May 4 is why did members of the Guard fire into a crowd of unarmed students? Two quite different answers have been advanced to this question: (1) the Guardsmen fired in self-defense, and the shootings were therefore justified and (2) the Guardsmen were not in immediate danger, and therefore the shootings were unjustified.The answer offered by the Guardsmen is that they fired because they were in fear of their lives. Guardsmen testified before numerous investigating commissions as well as in federal court that they felt the demonstrators were advancing on them in such a way as to pose a serious and immediate threat to the safety of the Guardsmen, and they therefore had to fire in self-defense. Some authors (e.g., Michener, 1971 and Grant and Hill, 1974) agree with this assessment. Much more importantly, federal criminal and civil trials have accepted the position of the Guardsmen. In a 1974 federal criminal trial, District Judge Frank Battisti dismissed the case against eight Guardsmen indicted by a federal grand jury, ruling at mid-trial that the government's case against the Guardsmen was so weak that the defense did not have to present its case. In the much longer and more complex federal civil trial of 1975, a jury voted 9-3 that none of the Guardsmen were legally responsible for the shootings. This decision was appealed, however, and the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that a new trial had to be held because of the improper handling of a threat to a jury member.


The legal aftermath of the May 4 shootings ended in January of 1979 with an out-of-court settlement involving a statement signed by 28 defendants(3) (http://dept.kent.edu/sociology/lewis/lewihen.htm#addition) as well as a monetary settlement, and the Guardsmen and their supporters view this as a final vindication of their position. The financial settlement provided $675,000 to the wounded students and the parents of the students who had been killed. This money was paid by the State of Ohio rather than by any Guardsmen, and the amount equaled what the State estimated it would cost to go to trial again. Perhaps most importantly, the statement signed by members of the Ohio National Guard was viewed by them to be a declaration of regret, not an apology or an admission of wrongdoing:


In retrospect, the tragedy of May 4, 1970 should not have occurred. The students may have believed that they were right in continuing their mass protest in response to the Cambodian invasion, even though this protest followed the posting and reading by the university of an order to ban rallies and an order to disperse. These orders have since been determined by the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals to have been lawful.
Some of the Guardsmen on Blanket Hill, fearful and anxious from prior events, may have believed in their own minds that their lives were in danger. Hindsight suggests that another method would have resolved the confrontation. Better ways must be found to deal with such a confrontation.
We devoutly wish that a means had been found to avoid the May 4th events culminating in the Guard shootings and the irreversible deaths and injuries. We deeply regret those events and are profoundly saddened by the deaths of four students and the wounding of nine others which resulted. We hope that the agreement to end the litigation will help to assuage the tragic memories regarding that sad day.


Translation: Those students did this to themselves...

pcosmar
05-04-2016, 09:52 PM
Translation: Those students did this to themselves...

Started by a provocateur.

Anti Federalist
05-04-2016, 10:07 PM
I love that headline...

It’s the Anniversary of the One School Shooting the Govt Won’t be Ramming Down Your Throat

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Agreed.

Suzanimal
05-04-2016, 10:46 PM
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AZJoe
05-04-2019, 11:44 AM
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05-04-2019, 11:49 AM
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oyarde
05-04-2019, 11:53 AM
All for nothing . The Cambodia bombing began in 1965 by 1975 the communists ( khemer rouge ) were in total control .

Anti Globalist
05-04-2019, 12:11 PM
That is a great title for an article.

AZJoe
05-04-2019, 12:18 PM
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CCTelander
05-04-2019, 12:47 PM
The essence of the state in all its "glory."

ATruepatriot
05-04-2019, 12:49 PM
I worked with a good friend who was there right in that mess went it went down.