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Suzanimal
04-23-2016, 06:17 PM
Former detainees tortured by the CIA at the agency’s notorious black sites are suing the psychologists hired to help design the controversial enhanced interrogation program, accusing them of enabling “war crimes” and “human experimentation.”

The psychologists, James Elmer Mitchell and John “Bruce” Jessen, will appear in federal court in Spokane, Washington on Friday. They will try to convince US District Court Senior Judge Justin L. Quackenbush that the case against them should be dismissed.

Although the two claim that they qualify for immunity because they were working for the government, the Justice Department has notably allowed the case to move forward up to this point. In the past, the government had blocked any and all efforts to hold the CIA accountable for the torture program, citing its concern that state secrets would be revealed.

"For the first time people who were involved in implementing and designing the CIA's torture program will be compelled to answer for their conduct in federal court," said Jameel Jaffer of the American Civil Liberties Union, who filed the lawsuit on behalf of the plaintiffs, to the Los Angeles Times. "That is literally unprecedented."

Filed back in October, the lawsuit contends that three former detainees held at CIA black sites – secret prisons located in undisclosed locations, often in foreign nations – were tortured and abused in violation of US and international law. The plaintiffs are Suleiman Abdullah Salim, Mohamed Ahmed Ben Soud, and Gul Rahman. Salim and Ben Soud are both still alive, but Rahman died while in CIA custody back in 2002.

According to the lawsuit, all three were subjected to a variety of abusive treatment, including solitary confinement; extreme darkness, cold, and noise; repeated beatings; starvation; water torture; sleep deprivation and more. Specifically, Rahman died from hypothermia after being exposed to extreme cold, dehydration, and lack of food, the complaint states.

Salim and Ben Soud, meanwhile, “suffered lasting psychological and physical damage from this torture.” The detainees are now seeking damages for their treatment.

The lawsuit targets both Mitchell and Jessen “for their commission of torture, cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment; nonconsensual human experimentation; and war crimes, all of which violate well-established norms of customary international law.”

Attorneys for Mitchel and Jessen say that since they were working for the government, Congress should be responsible for determining any punishment they may or may not deserve. They have also argued that they did not actually carry out any of the interrogations.

“They did not create or establish the CIA enhanced interrogation program,” defense attorney Christopher W Tompkins said in court documents, according to the Guardian. “They did not make decisions about Plaintiffs’ capture, treatment, confinement conditions, and interrogations; and they did not perform, supervise or control Plaintiffs’ interrogations.”

Additionally, the attorneys stated that they will probably have to reveal classified material or state secrets to defend their clients. If the Justice Department believes this to be true, it may invoke a state secrets privilege later in the case to block it from moving forward.

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https://www.rt.com/usa/340660-cia-black-site-torture-lawsuit/

Danke
04-23-2016, 07:18 PM
They need to prosecute John Yoo.

After he left the Department of Justice, it was revealed that Yoo had written legal opinions, including co-writing the Torture Memo of August 1, 2002, that narrowly defined torture and American habeas corpus obligations. They authorized what were called enhanced interrogation techniques and were issued to the CIA.[26][27][28] In addition, at the time the OLC issued a new definition of torture. Most actions that fall under the international definition did not fall within this new definition advocated by the U.S.[29]

In addition, on March 14, 2003, Yoo wrote a legal opinion memo in response to the General Counsel of the Department of Defense, in which he concluded that torture not allowed by federal law could be used by interrogators in overseas areas

timosman
04-23-2016, 07:32 PM
They need to prosecute John Yoo.

Lol, make the Korean guy the patsy. They(Dubya and Dick) were shopping around until they've found somebody who agreed to provide the justification for torture. I doubt Yoo even considered the moral implications of what he produced. You really do not need a lawyer's opinion on this one. If somebody needs to be prosecuted it should be the guys in charge who were pretending not to be aware of the spirit of the law and had the audacity to lie to the American people:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6LtL9lCTRA

timosman
04-24-2016, 02:08 PM
The "vibrant and strong economy" alert is an icing on the cake in this video. :D

TheTexan
04-24-2016, 02:31 PM
Since when did we start allowing alleged probably-terrorists to file complaints?

timosman
01-27-2017, 10:19 PM
bump

Suzanimal
07-29-2017, 07:10 AM
Over a year later...


Trial OK'd for CIA Terror 'Architects'

(NEWSER) – A federal judge has ruled that two CIA psychologists who devised brutal interrogation tactics used to extract information from terror suspects can stand trial. A lawsuit filed by the ACLU contended three former detainees were subjected to extreme physical abuse, the AP reports. Spokane US District Judge Justin Quackenbush on Friday decided a jury could hear the charges brought on behalf of at least one of three plaintiffs, Gul Rahman, who died in custody. Rahman succumbed to hypothermia while chained in a prison cell and was "starved, sleepless, and freezing." The suit charges the abuse the men suffered included being stuffed into boxes and forced to stand for days in diapers with their arms chained overhead. Quackenbush set a Sept. 5 trial date but expressed reservations about the two remaining plaintiffs

Neither actually came into contact with psychologists James Mitchell and John Jessen, and Quakenbush said he would issue a written ruling later. He urged the lawyers to settle the case out of court, noting Mitchell and Jessen are indemnified by the government. "I will not allow it to become a political trial" on the Bush administration’s policies, Quackenbush said, per the New York Times. The crux of the case, per Quackenbush: Were the men "subjected to torture, and if so, did the defendants ... legally aid and abet and factually aid and abet that torture?" Defense lawyers argued the handsomely paid psychologists should be treated like other government employees offered immunity and that the CIA determined the ultimate use of the torture tactics, most of which were eventually banned. "What does it mean to be an architect?" Mitchell’s lawyer asked, per the AP, saying the men didn't know what the CIA would do with their ideas.

http://www.newser.com/story/246448/cia-architects-of-terror-to-face-trial.html