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presence
03-22-2016, 07:56 AM
Nevada: Judge Denies Release for a Bundy in a Conspiracy Case (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/22/us/nevada-judge-denies-release-for-a-bundy-in-a-conspiracy-case.html) New York Times - ‎14 hours ago‎
A son of the rancher Cliven Bundy was ordered to remain in federal custody while awaiting trial after pleading not guilty on Monday in United States District Court on charges stemming from an armed confrontation with government agents in April 2014.



Another Cliven Bundy son, 3 others face Nevada charges (http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/03/another_cliven_bundy_son_3_oth.html) OregonLive.com - ‎15 hours ago‎
LAS VEGAS -- Another son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and three other men who were arrested in Idaho have arrived in custody in Las Vegas to face federal charges stemming from an armed confrontation with government agents in April 2014.



Nevada rancher's son pleads not guilty in 2014 standoff; judge declines to release him (http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/34188013-75/ranchers-son-mel-bundy-may-ask-judge-for-release-to-await-nevada-standoff-trial.html.csp) The Register-Guard - ‎22 hours ago‎
LAS VEGAS — A son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy pleaded not guilty Monday in U.S. District Court, and was ordered to remain in federal custody ahead of trial on charges stemming from an armed confrontation with government agents in April 2014.

phill4paul
03-22-2016, 08:27 AM
Got me thinking what exactly is considered "the right to a speedy trial?"

The conditions seem to be...


Criminal defendants have the right to a speedy trial. In Barker v. Wingo, 407 U.S. 514 (1972), the Supreme Court laid down a four-part case-by-case balancing test for determining whether the defendant's speedy trial right has been violated. The four factors are:

1: Length of delay. A delay of a year or more from the date on which the speedy trial right "attaches" (the date of arrest or indictment, whichever first occurs) was termed "presumptively prejudicial," but the Court has never explicitly ruled that any absolute time limit applies.

2: Reason for the delay. The prosecution may not excessively delay the trial for its own advantage, but a trial may be delayed to secure the presence of an absent witness or other practical considerations (e.g., change of venue).

3: Time and manner in which the defendant has asserted his right. If a defendant agrees to the delay when it works to his own benefit, he cannot later claim that he has been unduly delayed.

4: Degree of prejudice to the defendant which the delay has caused.

In Strunk v. United States, 412 U.S. 434 (1973), the Supreme Court ruled that if the reviewing court finds that a defendant's right to a speedy trial was violated, then the indictment must be dismissed and/or the conviction overturned. The Court held that, since the delayed trial is the state action which violates the defendant's rights, no other remedy would be appropriate. Thus, a reversal or dismissal of a criminal case on speedy trial grounds means that no further prosecution for the alleged offense can take place.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

If I'm not mistaken Ammon has asked to proceed post-haste. Therefore the prosecution would have to begin trial within a years time unless conditions allowed an extension?

hankrichter12
03-22-2016, 09:14 AM
Nevada: Judge Denies Release for a Bundy in a Conspiracy Case (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/22/us/nevada-judge-denies-release-for-a-bundy-in-a-conspiracy-case.html)

New York Times - ‎14 hours ago‎
A son of the rancher Cliven Bundy was ordered to remain in federal custody while awaiting trial after pleading not guilty on Monday in United States District Court on charges stemming from an armed confrontation with government agents in April 2014.



Another Cliven Bundy son, 3 others face Nevada charges (http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/03/another_cliven_bundy_son_3_oth.html)

OregonLive.com - ‎15 hours ago‎
LAS VEGAS -- Another son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and three other men who were arrested in Idaho have arrived in custody in Las Vegas to face federal charges stemming from an armed confrontation with government agents in April 2014.



Nevada rancher's son pleads not guilty in 2014 standoff; judge declines to release him (http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/34188013-75/ranchers-son-mel-bundy-may-ask-judge-for-release-to-await-nevada-standoff-trial.html.csp)

The Register-Guard - ‎22 hours ago‎
LAS VEGAS — A son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy pleaded not guilty Monday in U.S. District Court, and was ordered to remain in federal custody ahead of trial on charges stemming from an armed confrontation with government agents in April 2014.



Where's Rand on this? Oh yeah.....

presence
03-22-2016, 09:48 AM
Rand Paul, Cliven Bundy are ‘in tune with each other’?

07/01/15 08:42 AM—Updated 07/01/15 01:06 PM



“In general, I think we’re in tune with each other. I don’t think we need to ask Washington, D.C. for this land. It’s our land,” Bundy told the AP after his meeting with Paul.
Some of the initial reports suggest their “meeting” was fairly innocuous, with Bundy simply attending a Rand Paul event in Nevada. Candidates can’t always control who shows up at a gathering open to the public, so it wouldn’t necessarily be the senator’s fault if Bundy appeared at a campaign Q&A session.

But according to Bundy, there’s far more to it.


The right-wing rancher, who doesn’t even recognize the legitimacy of the United States government, told Politico that he had a private, 45-minute discussion (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/rand-paul-cliven-bundy-meeting-119576.html) with the Kentucky Republican. In fact, according to Bundy, Paul hosted the Q&A, after which Bundy claims to have been “escorted by Paul’s aides to a back room where he and the Republican 2016 contender spoke for approximately 45 minutes.”

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/rand-paul-cliven-bundy-are-tune-each-other






If Elected, Rand Paul Plans to Take Federal Lands Away from the ‘Big Huge Government Bully’

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/07/358124-elected-rand-paul-plans-take-federal-lands-away-big-huge-government-bully/

in october

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Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are among those who have strongly



cruz ran an anti-BLM network ad in February in Nevada
Rand Paul Loyalists Sit Out The GOP Race In Nevada (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwit7fat0NTLAhUBJh4KHU9kCWcQqQIIHygAMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzfeed.com%2Frosiegray%2Fra nd-paul-loyalists-sit-out-the-gop-race-in-nevada&usg=AFQjCNHaFev_h1DHMYwTU_94aJeqWhCNoA)


January


When Cliven Bundy started his showdown with the Bureau of Land Management, he quickly attracted a slew of high-profile backers (http://www.thewire.com/politics/2014/04/a-list-of-cliven-bundys-supporters-now-that-we-know-hes-a-pro-slavery-racist/361154/): Republican Senators Dean Heller, Ted Cruz, and Rand Paul; Texas Governor Rick Perry; and Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, who has since become governor. But Bundy’s hand was weak—after all, anyone who claims he isn’t governed by the Constitution and refuses to pay land fees for decades has a weak claim, to say nothing of the jarring image of armed men holding off law enforcement.http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/the-decline-of-the-bundy-rebellion/423693/

Standoffs and occupations in the United States through the years (http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/04/us/standoffs-occupations-through-u-s-history/)CNN-Jan 4, 2016
... the Bureau of Land Management, which said Bundy illegally tended ... Ted Cruz of Texas and Rand Paul of Kentucky, flocked to his defense.





more recently in February Rand's name is still appearing as a supporter on the issue


Many Republican officials, including Sens. Dean Heller (Nev.) and Rand Paul (Ky.), applauded Bundy and his makeshift militia — Heller called them “patriots.” The group also won praise from the conservative media.

according to Bundy, there’s far more to it.

The right-wing rancher, who doesn’t even recognize the legitimacy of the United States government, told Politico that he had a private, 45-minute discussion (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/rand-paul-cliven-bundy-meeting-119576.html) with the Kentucky Republican. In fact, according to Bundy, Paul hosted the Q&A, after which Bundy claims to have been “escorted by Paul’s aides to a back room where he and the Republican 2016 contender spoke for approximately 45 minutes.”

A Paul campaign spokesperson denied this version of events, though the denial didn’t specifically address whether or not the senator met specifically with Bundy. Paul spokesman Sergio Gor told (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/rand-paul-cliven-bundy-meeting-119576.html?hp=r3_3) Politico, “There were no scheduled meetings at Senator Paul’s stop in Mesquite. He spoke to many people who came to this public event, none for 45 minutes and none planned.”

But that doesn’t fully address the situation. Does this mean Rand Paul had an unscheduled meeting with Bundy? Maybe the two met privately, but their discussion was briefer than Bundy claims?

I reached out to a campaign spokesperson for clarification, but I have not yet heard back.

For his part, the rancher added (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/rand-paul-cliven-bundy-meeting-119576.html?hp=r3_3) he only expected to briefly exchange pleasantries with the senator, and he was pleasantly surprised to have a lengthy, substantive conversation with the GOP presidential candidate.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/02/11/cliven-bundy-patriarch-of-armed-resistance-over-land-use-is-arrested-in-portland/

TomtheTinker
03-22-2016, 04:11 PM
We don't deserve men like Bundy in this country. They are far to good for most of us.