Why is Donald Trump running for President?

[dude58677]

He already has mansions that are the size of the White House. He can even build his own White House replica if he wanted. He doesn't need Air Force One as he has his own jet airline. He doesn't need a Presidential Library as he has the Trump Tower. He already can make deals so why does he need power? The guy already lives like a US President so why is he running?

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

To make America great again.

[Smitty]

Well goodness gracious mercy me heaven's sake!

Haven't you heard?!

It's all a big plot to get Hillary elected!

[dude58677]

To make America great again.


He can't do it behind the scenes?

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

He can't do it behind the scenes?

It's a frontal assault on the gates of Mordor while little Frodo sneaks around back with the ring of power.

[dude58677]

Well goodness gracious mercy me heaven's sake!

Haven't you heard?!

It's all a big plot to get Hillary elected!

You don't have an answer. Thoughts so!

[openfire]

To make America great again.

^ I think this is what it comes down to for a man like Trump.

He's already accomplished everything in life, he's been witnessing his country going down the toilet for 20 years, and now that he's knocking on heaven's door, he sees this as his last chance to make a difference.

Call me naive, but that's what my gut tells me.

[Origanalist]

^ I think this is what it comes down to for a man like Trump.

He's already accomplished everything in life, he's been witnessing his country going down the toilet for 20 years, and now that he's knocking on heaven's door, he sees this as his last chance to make a difference.

Call me naive, but that's what my gut tells me.

You're naive.

[openfire]

You're naive.

I actually + repped you for giving me a good chuckle reading your response while looking at your avatar. :D

[Chester Copperpot]

if i had $10 billion id want to help america too. I think Trump is sincere

[TheNewYorker]

To have nuclear weapons and live the dr evil lifestyle

[Origanalist]

if i had $10 billion id want to help america too. I think Trump is sincere


You're naive.//

[TheTexan]

America called. And he answered.

[timosman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqFNAEEFVL4

[CPUd]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Km4R377s4M


Donald Trump’s Presidential Run Began in an Effort to Gain Stature

By MAGGIE HABERMAN and ALEXANDER BURNSMARCH 12, 2016

Donald J. Trump arrived at the White House Correspondents’ Association Dinner in April 2011, reveling in the moment as he mingled with the political luminaries who gathered at the Washington Hilton. He made his way to his seat beside his host, Lally Weymouth, the journalist and socialite daughter of Katharine Graham, longtime publisher of The Washington Post.

A short while later, the humiliation started.

The annual dinner features a lighthearted speech from the president; that year, President Obama chose Mr. Trump, then flirting with his own presidential bid, as a punch line.

He lampooned Mr. Trump’s gaudy taste in décor. He ridiculed his fixation on false rumors that the president had been born in Kenya. He belittled his reality show, “The Celebrity Apprentice.”

Mr. Trump at first offered a drawn smile, then a game wave of the hand. But as the president’s mocking of him continued and people at other tables craned their necks to gauge his reaction, Mr. Trump hunched forward with a frozen grimace.

After the dinner ended, Mr. Trump quickly left, appearing bruised. He was “incredibly gracious and engaged on the way in,” recalled Marcus Brauchli, then the executive editor of The Washington Post, but departed “with maximum efficiency.”

That evening of public abasement, rather than sending Mr. Trump away, accelerated his ferocious efforts to gain stature within the political world. And it captured the degree to which Mr. Trump’s campaign is driven by a deep yearning sometimes obscured by his bluster and bragging: a desire to be taken seriously.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/13/us/politics/donald-trump-campaign.html

[Peace&Freedom]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/13/us/politics/donald-trump-campaign.html

In other words, he was annoyed over being disrespected, marginalized and ridiculed for expressing dissent, or being expected to just accept being a compliant potted plant at the PC regime's one-sided event. At the White House Correspondents dinner, establishment pols and the establishment media drop the pretense of being on opposite sides in controlling the peons while seeing to it that liberty dies, and all attendees are supposed to just play along, with thunderous applause.

That is to say, Trump is a Finn, in Star Wars terms, who has since gotten off the the Empire's bus. At a time when the real Jedis we want have vanished from being active candidates (Ron), or lost their way (Rand), the Resistance will have to carry on with the Finns until the Jedis return.

[openfire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Km4R377s4M

Donald Trump’s Presidential Run Began in an Effort to Gain Stature

By MAGGIE HABERMAN and ALEXANDER BURNSMARCH 12, 2016

Donald J. Trump arrived at the White House Correspondents’ Association Dinner in April 2011, reveling in the moment as he mingled with the political luminaries who gathered at the Washington Hilton. He made his way to his seat beside his host, Lally Weymouth, the journalist and socialite daughter of Katharine Graham, longtime publisher of The Washington Post.

A short while later, the humiliation started.

The annual dinner features a lighthearted speech from the president; that year, President Obama chose Mr. Trump, then flirting with his own presidential bid, as a punch line.

He lampooned Mr. Trump’s gaudy taste in décor. He ridiculed his fixation on false rumors that the president had been born in Kenya. He belittled his reality show, “The Celebrity Apprentice.”

Mr. Trump at first offered a drawn smile, then a game wave of the hand. But as the president’s mocking of him continued and people at other tables craned their necks to gauge his reaction, Mr. Trump hunched forward with a frozen grimace.

After the dinner ended, Mr. Trump quickly left, appearing bruised. He was “incredibly gracious and engaged on the way in,” recalled Marcus Brauchli, then the executive editor of The Washington Post, but departed “with maximum efficiency.”

That evening of public abasement, rather than sending Mr. Trump away, accelerated his ferocious efforts to gain stature within the political world. And it captured the degree to which Mr. Trump’s campaign is driven by a deep yearning sometimes obscured by his bluster and bragging: a desire to be taken seriously.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/13/us/politics/donald-trump-campaign.html

Outstanding find. Thank you for proving that Trump is an outsider.

[Isaac Bickerstaff]

I've had a feeling for a while now that everything he does is designed to belittle the people in the political process. He is showing that becoming a president takes nothing more than appealing to the worst in humanity. He is exposing presidential politics as the debacle it has always been. The question is whether he is seriously trying to gain respect (pathetic) or just trolling(oddly admirable, but no less terrifying).

[FindLiberty]

^ ... been witnessing his country going down the toilet for 20 years, ...chance to make a difference. ... that's what my gut tells me.

Gut here agrees and goes with me to the polls to vote for him in about an hour...

[luctor-et-emergo]

^ I think this is what it comes down to for a man like Trump.

He's already accomplished everything in life, he's been witnessing his country going down the toilet for 20 years, and now that he's knocking on heaven's door, he sees this as his last chance to make a difference.

Call me naive, but that's what my gut tells me.

I'm not even sure if you are serious or trolling. And I don't know which of the two is potentially worse.

[Todd]

Well goodness gracious mercy me heaven's sake!

Haven't you heard?!

It's all a big plot to get Hillary elected!


Yeah...what's more likely. That he really wants to be President or that he's helping a career politician with lifelong dreams of being POTUS reach that goal.

[CaptUSA]

Well, let's see...

He's spent a lifetime buying off politicians to use the power of government to get what he wants. Perhaps, he just wants to cut out the middle man and wield that power himself. Men like Trump, who crave power, just want more of it. Seems pretty simple. Whether he wins or gives it to Hillary, his real power will increase.


I'll tell why he is not running - he isn't running to try to give the power of government back to the people!

[jclay2]

Just took the dive and cast IL ballot for Trump. Let's hope he is for real about enforcing the border. Given how much the establishment is freaking out, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

[bubbleboy]

Because America needs a revolution and the Paul's didn't have it in them.

Now quote the Newyorktimes and loose all credibility. Trump has woken up a beast.

[ProBlue33]

Article concluded with this


“A lot of people have laughed at me over the years,” he said in a speech days before the New Hampshire primary. “Now, they’re not laughing so much.”

I am convinced that Trump knew he couldn't buy respect, he would have to win it.
So why did he run for?
Respect and historical legacy, he wants to be the new Reagan, an actor turned president.
He doesn't want to be remembered as a joke after he dies, it's not about money or even power, but respect.
That is why I don't think he will do crazy stupid things if elected because he won't want to be remembered as a crazy president, he wants to earn a respected legacy.

[erowe1]

He already has mansions that are the size of the White House. He can even build his own White House replica if he wanted. He doesn't need Air Force One as he has his own jet airline. He doesn't need a Presidential Library as he has the Trump Tower. He already can make deals so why does he need power? The guy already lives like a US President so why is he running?

Obviously not for money. But the president has power that far exceeds what Trump has ever had or could acquire with his money in any other way. Trump is a demagogue. He thirsts for power.

He is just the kind of man who, as president, will be most eager to get us into a huge war.

[CaptUSA]

In a word?

Narcissism.

Same reason most of them run.

[bubbleboy]

In a word?

Narcissism.

Same reason most of them run.

Why do you use reps to personal attack? Name calling doesn't go anywhere in a conversation. I suggest you halt it now or I will begin the name calling too and Im pretty good at it.

[erowe1]

Why do you use reps to personal attack? Name calling doesn't go anywhere in a conversation. I suggest you halt it now or I will begin the name calling too and Im pretty good at it.

This is the Ron Paul Forums, not the Donald Trump forums.

Normally, outsiders are very welcome here.

But at present, we have a yuge problem with Trump trolls. And something obviously needs to be done to dishearten them. It used to be that people who repeatedly kept coming here with no agenda other than undermining the mission of the website would be banned.

[bubbleboy]

This is the Ron Paul Forums, not the Donald Trump forums.

Normally, outsiders are very welcome here.

But at present, we have a yuge problem with Trump trolls. And something obviously needs to be done to dishearten them. It used to be that people who repeatedly kept coming here with no agenda other than undermining the mission of the website would be banned.

Stop the name calling and personal attacks. You give Dr. RON Paul a bad name. And, this is a RON PAUL forum, and he is not running for president. The subject matter is broad, from 2016 election to health and wellness.

[phill4paul]

Because America needs a revolution and the Paul's didn't have it in them.

Now quote the Newyorktimes and loose all credibility. Trump has woken up a beast.

Correction. Boobus didn't have it in them. That's why they will get the president they so richly deserve. No matter who it is.

[Ronin Truth]

FWIW, my SWAG, he can afford it, and he enjoys the challenge and the attention.

[erowe1]

Stop the name calling and personal attacks.

What name calling and personal attacks?

No, Ron isn't running. But it's never just been about a man running for office, but about the principles he stood for, and that this website still stands for.

All of that subject matter you mention is subsumed under the same large umbrella.

[bubbleboy]

Negative Reps. Name calling.

[erowe1]

Negative Reps. Name calling.

Neg reps are part of the system of this website. They exist for just situations like this.

What name calling?

[RDM]

if i had $10 billion id want to help america too. I think Trump is sincere

Too bad either one of you have 10 Billion.

Donald Trump has said he’s worth $10 billion (or more), but his actual net worth is significantly less than that, according to an analysis by Forbes.

Randall Lane, the editor of the magazine, writes:

“Trump’s valuation this year holds extra importance, of course, due to his audacious second act: his highly unlikely – but no longer inconceivable – path to the presidency. Trump has filed statements claiming he’s worth at least $10 billion or, as he put in a press release, TEN BILLION DOLLARS (capitalization his). After interviewing more than 80 sources and devoting unprecedented resources to valuing a single fortune, we’re going with a figure less than half that – $4.5 billion, albeit still the highest figure we’ve ever had for him.”

[CaptUSA]

What name calling?

I told him, "Don't be an idiot. And learn how to use the language." in a neg rep. Could that be the "name calling"?

[erowe1]

I told him, "Don't be an idiot. And learn how to use the language." in a neg rep. Could that be the "name calling"?

I don't know. He told me to stop it. I didn't know if he meant my use of the word troll or what.

[bubbleboy]

Just got another Neg rep for misspelling a word. Thanks RDM! Dividing the liberty movement with name calling and ticky tack shit.

Why not say "hey my fellow libertarian, you miss spelled a word, have a good day" naaa not RDM

[Peace&Freedom]

What name calling and personal attacks?

No, Ron isn't running. But it's never just been about a man running for office, but about the principles he stood for, and that this website still stands for.

All of that subject matter you mention is subsumed under the same large umbrella.

Ron Paul would not be childishly neg-repping or troll-labeling people if he was on this forum, so your approach violates what his principles and this website stands for. Ron and Rand lost largely because of institutional factors in place (the national party leadership, elite donors or special interests, and the media) that are designed to shutdown alternative candidates.

The plain fact* remains the Trump candidacy has disrupted that establishment to the core, and this precedent benefits the liberty movement (by showing us how to break or beat the system, and by so doing making it easier to succeed in future liberty campaigns). That is why covering, analyzing, and passively supporting the outsider trend and Trump phenomenon is relevant to the forum, as it is mostly helpful to the movement going forward. Since Ron has retired and Rand may not run again, we will have to evolve beyond the Pauls after this cycle in any event.

Most of all, we should be studying how to reproduce the factors that created winning coalitions, and learn how to engage those voting blocs in a way that steers them towards liberty candidates---instead of our current practice, of gazing at our navels talking about our 5-10% electoral base, while demonizing everybody else. The latter path is not engaging voters, and in no way can grow influence or victories for the pro-liberty cause, as demonstrated by three election cycles.


P.S.: * As also acknowledged by Ron himself, despite his criticism of Trump's positions and personality. “He’s so disruptive to the party system, and I enjoy that too.” Ron Paul, Alan Colmes Show, July 2015

[bubbleboy]

This ^^^

[erowe1]

Ron Paul would not be childishly neg-repping or troll-labeling people if he was on this forum, so your approach violates what his principles and this website stands for.

He would. It looks like you haven't read what he has to say about Trump.


The plain fact remains the Trump candidacy has disrupted that establishment to the core, and this precedent benefits the liberty movement

Not only is that not a plain fact, it is plainly false.

Unfortunately, "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Peace&Freedom again."

[RDM]

Just got another Neg rep for misspelling a word. Thanks RDM! Dividing the liberty movement with name calling and ticky tack $#@!.

Why not say "hey my fellow libertarian, you miss spelled a word, have a good day" naaa not RDM

Well...you did complain and whine about being neg repped for trolling about Trump.

[presence]

Trump is running as controlled opposition paper tiger to usher Hillary Clinton into office as the figure head of the deep state. His sole purpose is to lock out; solidify right wing support in a campaign destined to implode.


'murica 'chose' state socialism and gun bans, the punch line.

[Chester Copperpot]

Trump is running as controlled opposition paper tiger to usher Hillary Clinton into office as the figure head of the deep state. His sole purpose is to lock out; solidify right wing support in a campaign destined to implode.


'murica 'chose' state socialism and gun bans, the punch line.

I was originally concerned with that but not anymore.. I dont think thats his goal.

Even if he originally was doing that theres no way hes doing that now... Hes just gonna steal it from clinton

[Southron]

I was originally concerned with that but not anymore.. I dont think thats his goal.

Even if he originally was doing that theres no way hes doing that now... Hes just gonna steal it from clinton

I agree. He has come too far and too close to the Presidency to give it up.

[69360]

Why? To get

http://images.memes.com/meme/314808

[timosman]

Trump is running as controlled opposition paper tiger to usher Hillary Clinton into office as the figure head of the deep state. His sole purpose is to lock out; solidify right wing support in a campaign destined to implode.


'murica 'chose' state socialism and gun bans, the punch line.

http://il6.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/5159807/thumb/1.jpg

[CaptUSA]

http://il6.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/5159807/thumb/1.jpg

http://ielts-yasi.englishlab.net/The_Man_and_the_dog_are_working_together.jpg

[jllundqu]

In other words, he was annoyed over being disrespected, marginalized and ridiculed for expressing dissent, or being expected to just accept being a compliant potted plant at the PC regime's one-sided event. At the White House Correspondents dinner, establishment pols and the establishment media drop the pretense of being on opposite sides in controlling the peons while seeing to it that liberty dies, and all attendees are supposed to just play along, with thunderous applause.

That is to say, Trump is a Finn, in Star Wars terms, who has since gotten off the the Empire's bus. At a time when the real Jedis we want have vanished from being active candidates (Ron), or lost their way (Rand), the Resistance will have to carry on with the Finns until the Jedis return.

H O L Y S H I T.....

Donald Trump is now Finn from Star Wars.... We've gone Full Retard.

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/61411281.jpg

[openfire]

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/2016-03-14/kathy3b2.png

https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/03/14/trump-rises-national-support-rubio-falls-and-carso/

[Peace&Freedom]

Donald Trump is now Finn from Star Wars.... We've gone Full Retard.


Or early to the analysis, as I originally made the point months ago (https://electclifton.wordpress.com/2015/12/20/star-wars-primaries-the-rank-and-file-awakens/) in my blog. You've gone Full Late to the Party. Or, if you would prefer an Avengers 2 analogy instead, we may have to push the kind Doctor off the ledge, because right now, "we need the other guy."

Perhaps there's not a pretty way to win the war against the statist elite. We tried pretty, with Ron and Rand. An ugly blowhard may have to do as a disruptive battering ram, to clear path for pretty later. So for now, let's enjoy the damage Trump is doing to the regime. "He’s so disruptive to the party system, and I enjoy that too." Ron Paul, Alan Colmes Show, July 2015

[CPUd]

Trump is running as controlled opposition paper tiger to usher Hillary Clinton into office as the figure head of the deep state. His sole purpose is to lock out; solidify right wing support in a campaign destined to implode.


'murica 'chose' state socialism and gun bans, the punch line.

Yes, and it would ensure in the next cycle the GOP doesn't even give an "outside" candidate an opening. 4 Jebs and 2 Mitts, 1 Bob Dole to choose from.