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Warlord
03-14-2016, 02:47 PM
http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2016/03/hillary-clinton-will-probably-regret-comment

francisco
03-14-2016, 03:06 PM
Rand's twitter responses to Hillary's pronouncement prominently featured in article.

FindLiberty
03-14-2016, 03:12 PM
Black heart, black lung or both?

Root
03-14-2016, 03:20 PM
Black heart, black lung or both?
Black soul (no racist joke this time)

presence
03-14-2016, 03:59 PM
Speaking in Ohio about her plans to revitalize coal country, Clinton said, "We're going to put a lot of coal companies and coal miners out of business." That comment was immediately preceded by a promise to invest in the clean-energy economy in those places, and immediately followed by a pledge to "make it clear that we don't want to forget those people." But it's not hard to guess which comment will end up as a sound bite in attack ads in coal states during the general election.

always found it odd that motherjones takes an anti coal mining stance

SpiritOf1776_J4
03-14-2016, 04:01 PM
Well, this is cool, and Sanders is running against trucks.

And when the industries shut down, it will really seem like something out of Atlas Shrugged.

hells_unicorn
03-14-2016, 04:44 PM
Wow, Clinton is trying to out-retard Sanders in order to get the nomination, and Mother Jones is out-retarding both of them by trying to excuse it.

http://www.kappit.com/img/pics/201412_1301_gbdcd.jpg

sam1952
03-14-2016, 05:24 PM
But, but, but, without coal or natural gas where is all the electricity gonna come from???


http://www.investors.com/politics/capital-hill/hillary-and-bernies-fierce-opposition-to-fracking-has-some-liberals-worried/


Clinton, Sanders Plan To Stop Fracking Would Boost CO2, Liberals Admit

Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton have both come out strongly against fracking. (AP)
Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton have both come out strongly against fracking. (AP)
JOHN MERLINE
3/10/2016 5:29 PM EST


What is an environmentalist to do these days? You can support windmills, so long as they don’t disrupt ridgelines, where the wind happens to blow. You have to approve of solar power, except when a solar power plant might disrupt efforts to restore migration routes for 100 sheep in the Mohave Desert. And you once were supposed to support natural gas as a “bridge fuel” between coal and something else, until you weren’t.

Now the requirement appears to be that you must oppose fracking at all costs, even though it will likely mean increasing emissions of greenhouse gases.

That’s the conundrum Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders now find themselves in.

At the Democratic debate in Flint, Mich., over the weekend, Sanders said simply that “I do not support fracking.” Clinton said she supported it in theory, but that “by the time we get through all of my conditions, I do not think there will be many places in America where fracking will continue to take place.”

The problem is that fracking is directly responsible for the sharp decline in CO2 emission in the U.S., which both Bernie and Hillary have said is the biggest threat humanity has ever faced.

For those who don’t know, fracking is a new drilling technology that has opened vast new supplies of oil and natural gas within the United States. In fact, more than half of natural gas in the U.S. is now produced through fracking.

The huge increase in natural gas supplies caused prices to plunge, which in turn encouraged many power plants to switch from (high CO2 emitting) coal to (much lower CO2 emitting) natural gas.

Mother Jones, a liberal publication, noted that while efficiency gains and increased use of solar and wind have lowered greenhouse gas emissions somewhat, “the swapping of natural gas for coal has arguably been the most vital.”

The magazine went on to point out that “limiting fracking could backfire” because “there’s a good chance that efforts to restrict fracking could lead to the burning of more coal” as a result of sharply higher natural gas prices.

The Washington Post editorial page, meanwhile, called Sanders unabashed opposition to fracking “utterly unrealistic.”

Environmentalists complain — wrongly — that fracking harms water supplies, and — correctly — that the process of extracting natural gas releases methane, another greenhouse gas. But methane is different from CO2 in that it doesn’t last long in the atmosphere, whereas carbon dioxide stays up for decades.

In other words, environmentalists — as they seem increasingly bent on doing — are making the perfect the enemy of the good.

All this, of course, assumes that scientists are right in their doomsday scenarios about global warming, about which there is considerable doubt — despite attempts to make it seem that none exists.

But Hillary and Bernie are true believers in the climate change horror story. That makes their opposition to fracking not just “unrealistic,” but utterly incomprehensible.

CaptUSA
03-14-2016, 06:10 PM
She must not be paying attention. Obama is pretty much doing this already. By the inauguration, there will be very few coal workers left.

Fracking, oil prices, and increased regulations = bad time for coal.

Ronin Truth
03-15-2016, 09:22 AM
I'd really like to see a couple of Clintons, put out of business. :p :mad: