RFI: Liberty movement accomplishments post-2012

[thoughtomator]

Please list below any accomplishment by the liberty movement since the RP campaign of 2012 ended.

Trying to figure out what, if anything, has been done by anyone to move the ball forward in the past four years.

[CPUd]

It is no longer taboo to criticize someone for invoking 9/11 in a national TV debate
"Audit the Fed" is a more attractive position

The biggest impact by far IMO was seen during the attempted intervention in Syria. People were not going for that at all. Rand led on this issue.

[cajuncocoa]

Rand's epic filibusters called attention to two very serious issues: drone bombing, the PATRIOT act (defeated, but replaced)

[cajuncocoa]

OP, what's your point?

[timosman]

It is no longer taboo to criticize someone for invoking 9/11 in a national TV debate

It was Trump.


"Audit the Fed" is a more attractive position

lol



The biggest impact by far IMO was seen during the attempted intervention in Syria. People were not going for that at all. Rand led on this issue.

It was Putin who exploited the opportunity when Kerry put a foot in his mouth.

[thoughtomator]

OP, what's your point?

(mod edit) My point is RIGHT THERE IN THE OP.

[P3ter_Griffin]

We intellectually kicked the shit out of a bunch of muh borders ****. ;)

[MelissaWV]

Thomas Harold Massie is an American engineer and politician who has been the United States Representative for Kentucky's 4th congressional district since 2012.

Not sure if you want to count things like that; you are likely either going to object to the timeline or to any implication that it was a result of anything someone here did.

[timosman]

Rand's epic filibusters called attention to two very serious issues: drone bombing, the PATRIOT act (defeated, but replaced)

Delusions of grandeur? :confused:

[Tywysog Cymru]

A lot of people I know have woken up on foreign policy and the federal reserve.

[CPUd]

Another one- if a local law enforcement wants to get a surplus tank or other military gear from the feds, it's not guaranteed the locals will be on board with it. That push against the "militarization of police" seemed to happen at the right time, just before the Ferguson riots, where it was on full display. The cops were not prepared at all for the backlash they got from that.

[Cabal]

As far as I can tell, there is no post-2012 liberty movement.

[presence]

we've made advancements in

marijuana legalization
constitutional carry


http://cdn.theatlanticwire.com/img/upload/2013/04/08/WeedLaws.gif




https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Rtc.gif



depending on your views.... abortion and gay marriage:



http://www.motherjones.com/files/AbortionLawsMapAnimated.gif

http://i.imgur.com/0jpgH3d.gif

[euphemia]

If liberty is evaluated by marijuana legalization, then woohoo. For the rest of us, who care about bigger issues, we are not doing very well.

Editing to add: Liberty is for everyone. Otherwise these little issues are nothing more than tossing a bone to a special interest.

[presence]

If liberty is evaluated by marijuana legalization, then woohoo. For the rest of us, who care about bigger issues, we are not doing very well.

the post was animated gif themed.... those were just the animated gifs I could find.

I'd also assert we're making incredible gains in the past 18 months in the "localbitcoin" cash for bitcoin peer to peer market.
Not just in the US but globally. 2015 has seen incredible growth. $10,000,000 weekly moves through local cash markets now in peer to peer exchange.

that's 20X the volume we were seeing in 2012; 100% grassroots activism and interest.

https://coin.dance/charts


http://i.imgur.com/Jz9Vvzj.png

[timosman]

If liberty is evaluated by marijuana legalization, then woohoo. For the rest of us, who care about bigger issues, we are not doing very well.

Editing to add: Liberty is for everyone. Otherwise these little issues are nothing more than tossing a bone to a special interest.

MJ legalization is about escapism and numbing the population down. The liberty connection is tenuous at best.

[euphemia]

I don't see either of these issues to be progress in the liberty movement. We haven't reduced the size of government by one office. We haven't stopped fighting stupid, aimless wars. We still have Common Core, and we are still funding Planned Parenthood. People still have to buy health insurance. Special interests still run the show. We can't even get a large market press that fulfills it's first amendment obligation to advocate for the people. We can't get recognition by major parties.

That's not liberty, folks.

Rand Paul dressed better for debates. That's about it.

[presence]

MJ legalization is about escapism and numbing the population down. The liberty connection is tenuous at best.

are you kidding me?

its about millions of people in jail for possession of illegal flowers
its about the tax dollars spent on that
its about the broken families
its about freedom to choose one's own food and medicine

[timosman]

are you kidding me?

its about millions of people in jail for possession of illegal flowers
its about the tax dollars spent on that
its about the broken families

Maybe I am biased since the state had medical MJ on the books for 20 years. :confused:

[presence]

Maybe I am biased since the state had medical MJ on the books for 20 years. :confused:

that is the very institution you should be upset with as a liberty lover

"medical MJ" is the socialist state solution



prescriptions, licenses, accreditations, permits


What happened to the right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness ? When did the regulator step into my cereal bowl? Why do I need a state sanctioned goon to grant me a permit to be in possession of a flower? its absurd. The whole institution of drugs by prescription is absurd. Illegal milk... its absurdity.

[timosman]

that is the very institution you should be upset with as a liberty lover

"medical MJ" is the socialist state solution



prescriptions, licenses, accreditations, permits


What happened to the right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness ? When did the regulator step into my cereal bowl? Why do I need a state sanctioned goon to grant me a permit to be in possession of a flower? its absurd. The whole institution of drugs by prescription is absurd. Illegal milk... its absurdity.

Agree on all points, but still do not see how MJ deserves a special treatment. Even if we get it to be legal at the federal level there are all the other issues taking us back from the liberty perspective. I just see no reason for patting ourselves on the back for it. It is just a bone thrown to us by the big government.

[Brian4Liberty]

Goodbye Eric Cantor and John Boehner.

[Libertas Aut Mortis]

Since 2012...hmm.

Well, you all turned me from the NeoCon Cult.

And I've turned my family and many of my friends.

And who knows who they have spoken too.....you can't unhear an idea. I know I couldn't.