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Deborah K
03-08-2016, 10:40 PM
Shawna Cox's cell phone recording of LaVoy Finicum's cold-blooded murder:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KecQ41pbPiM&feature=youtu.be

The Ron Paul Revolutionaries used to care about things such as this. Where are you??????????????????????????????

Deborah K
03-08-2016, 10:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5VQqcs9O9E

Origanalist
03-08-2016, 11:06 PM
I watched it, there is another thread on it. Everyone here knows what the government is capable of, it hurts to watch it unfold in front of you.

dannno
03-08-2016, 11:36 PM
NO.

RonPaulIsGreat
03-09-2016, 04:32 AM
Technology is the only thing that ever can at all equal the playing field. I've no clue, why they didn't have multiple gopro's and a Sat link. Anyway, this video changes the perception a lot in a verifiable manner, the government shot out the window immediately after he exited the vehicle with his hands up. So, it's 100% verifiable murder now. Before, you couldn't tell what happened really from the single overhead view.

Schifference
03-09-2016, 05:05 AM
"No more free Waco's"

tod evans
03-09-2016, 05:07 AM
"No more free Waco's"

Expecting the police to police the police never works out well......

Unless you're police....

squarepusher
03-09-2016, 05:30 AM
LaVoy wanted to die, this was his plan all along. He is even on the record saying so. He is lucky he didn't get that whole car killed.

Ronin Truth
03-09-2016, 08:54 AM
I have a government? How does that happen? I'm not OK with that, and was never even asked. Now I only have 3-4 redundant layers left, to kill off.

klamath
03-09-2016, 09:39 AM
What do you expect Deb when the leading republican candidate that is being pushed hard on these forums, is on record saying the government can't let people take over government property and that we cannot let states take control of federal land, the very issues that is being put to question here.

phill4paul
03-09-2016, 09:42 AM
Expecting the police to police the police never works out well......

Unless you're police....

"So what we have is a bunch of folks protesting the government, then the government investigating the government protesters, and then the government accused of covering up the investigation of the government protesters, and then the government investigating their own coverup in the investigation of the government protesters," Mike Arnold (Ammon's attorney).

tod evans
03-09-2016, 09:58 AM
"So what we have is a bunch of folks protesting the government, then the government investigating the government protesters, and then the government accused of covering up the investigation of the government protesters, and then the government investigating their own coverup in the investigation of the government protesters," Mike Arnold (Ammon's attorney).

He forgot to add "On your dime." ;)

DavesNotHere
03-09-2016, 10:42 AM
Great quote from Mike Arnold ^^^

"Jailhouse interview: Ammon Bundy says government's story is unraveling"
By Steve Dunn, KATU News and KATU.com Staff Tuesday, March 8th 2016

http://katu.com/news/local/jailhouse-interview-ammon-bundy-says-governments-story-is-unraveling

Mach
03-09-2016, 01:14 PM
FBI agents under investigation for possible misconduct in LaVoy Finicum shooting

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/03/oregon_standoff_fbi_agents_und.html



Some supporters have claimed Finicum was shot while surrendering, that he was unarmed and that he was shot nine times. The sheriff in neighboring Grant County, Glenn Palmer, described the police operation as an "ambush."



Investigators had planned to release police reports, interview transcripts, photographs, the autopsy report and new video to allow the public to evaluate the police findings in Finicum's death.

But they ended up releasing only one video and 19 photographs, citing the new criminal investigation for the change in plans. They also withheld the names of the involved troopers and FBI agents, saying they've tracked up to 80 threats against them, mostly on social media.


Cox's video showed that one shot hit the truck's left rear passenger window as Finicum stepped out. At the time, Finicum appeared to have his hands at least at shoulder height.

Investigators later established that the bullet entered the truck through the roof before shattering the window and concluded it was fired by an FBI agent.


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Synced video from aerial and Shawna Cox cameras.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZZ8BFuZoF0

heavenlyboy34
03-09-2016, 01:17 PM
Shawna Cox's cell phone recording of LaVoy Finicum's cold-blooded murder:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KecQ41pbPiM&feature=youtu.be

The Ron Paul Revolutionaries used to care about things such as this. Where are you??????????????????????????????
They're probably trying to vote at it and make it go away. ;) VOTE HARDER!!

Cleaner44
03-09-2016, 01:39 PM
So Sick. :(

Deborah K
03-09-2016, 02:26 PM
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Deborah K
03-09-2016, 02:27 PM
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wmmonk
03-09-2016, 05:51 PM
Are we supposed to be okay with this?
We just need to vote harder:

"I’m sympathetic to the idea that the large collection of federal lands ought to be turned back to the states and the people, but I think the best way to bring about change is through politics," Paul told the Washington Post in an interview. "That's why I entered the electoral arena. I don’t support any violence or suggestion of violence toward changing policy."

klamath
03-09-2016, 06:15 PM
Are we supposed to be okay with this?
We just need to vote harder: He knew who would die and he was right. Then imagine if you will that you are in that fox hole with presumed freedom fighters and a quarter of them get a message from their leader that he doesn't believe the federal lands should be turned over to the states and that quarter turn their guns on you. It can happen that quick.

LibertyEagle
03-09-2016, 06:38 PM
I saw this on Facebook yesterday. It is more than sickening.

LibertyEagle
03-09-2016, 06:39 PM
They're probably trying to vote at it and make it go away. ;) VOTE HARDER!!

Or whine like you do. Because that is so successful.

Son_of_Liberty90
03-09-2016, 06:59 PM
I hope someone downloaded the video before it gets deleted

donnay
03-09-2016, 07:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5VQqcs9O9E

Very well said. God Bless Jeanette and their family for having the courage to stand up and shout!

heavenlyboy34
03-09-2016, 07:05 PM
Or whine like you do. Because that is so successful.
Oh, I've long given up on "whining". I issue warnings to (try to) help and have some laughs at the follies. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him want to be free. /shrugs I've found that worrying about things/people I can't control just gives me headaches.

DavesNotHere
03-09-2016, 08:45 PM
LaVoy had some strong, amazing family... They give me hope.

Jeanette Finicum Press Conference Q & A 03 09 16

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDtITDY0FYA

Passing the Torch of Liberty to the next generation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWkcCJjhZIk

EDIT- The lying FEDs are up shit creek after creating such a martyr and they stand ZERO chance against strong American women like these!

klamath
03-09-2016, 08:48 PM
And just for those that appear to be supporting the ranchers cause and supporting trump.


"You have to maintain law and order, no matter what," Trump told The Hill Refering to the standoff.


Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has said the armed standoff at a national wildlife refuge in Oregon had gone on “too long,” and that once people are allowed to take over federal property, “you don’t have a government anymore.”


"I don't like the idea because I want to keep the lands great, and you don't know what the state is going to do," Trump said during a talk with Field & Stream magazine earlier this week.

The trade publication, sitting down with Trump at Las Vegas' Shooting, Hunting, and Outdoor Trade Show, had asked about the issue of turning over federally controlled lands to individual states -- an idea previously floated by rival 2016 contender and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul and supported by staunch states-rights activists.

Anti Federalist
03-09-2016, 09:10 PM
The Ron Paul Revolutionaries used to care about things such as this. Where are you??????????????????????????????

I'm guessing many of these folks were.

So the answer is, dead and in jail, some of them anyway.

Which, as Pete noted already, is where were all going, if the system really cranks this up.

Just the statements of support on this board are indictable under the ludicrously loose "conspiracy" statutes of federal law.

I wish we could do something.

I wished we could have done something when they set the sights on Ed and Elaine Brown.

And hundreds and thousands of others.

wmmonk
03-09-2016, 10:02 PM
The Ron Paul Revolutionaries used to care about things such as this. Where are you??????????????????????????????

Deb, what are you expecting to happen? What do you think we, or the "you", should be doing?

DavesNotHere
03-09-2016, 10:15 PM
Deb, what are you expecting to happen? What do you think we, or the "you", should be doing?

I don't want to speak for another, but to answer your question myself, here is something to do-

https://scontent.fsan1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/12804849_974320799311395_3262753314074877532_n.jpg ?oh=a059b5c6b8762e72b30186d70e3c3e4d&oe=5753DA37

Peaceful protests and speaking/learning/sharing the truth are my rights and what I PERSONALLY plan on doing.

wmmonk
03-09-2016, 10:44 PM
I don't want to speak for another, but to answer your question myself, here is something to do-

https://scontent.fsan1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/12804849_974320799311395_3262753314074877532_n.jpg ?oh=a059b5c6b8762e72b30186d70e3c3e4d&oe=5753DA37

Peaceful protests and speaking/learning/sharing the truth are my rights and what I PERSONALLY plan on doing.

Maybe? Are you attending this tomorrow?

TheTexan
03-09-2016, 10:56 PM
LaVoy wanted to die, this was his plan all along. He is even on the record saying so. He is lucky he didn't get that whole car killed.

Yes, it's fine to shoot someone with their hands in the air as long as they say 'shoot me' then its OK

Son_of_Liberty90
03-09-2016, 10:59 PM
LaVoy had some strong, amazing family... They give me hope.

Jeanette Finicum Press Conference Q & A 03 09 16

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDtITDY0FYA

Passing the Torch of Liberty to the next generation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWkcCJjhZIk

EDIT- The lying FEDs are up shit creek after creating such a martyr and they stand ZERO chance against strong American women like these!

That second video was beautiful, almost brought me to tears. Too bad some filth had to infect the comments.


Tean: Your life and even your ability to grow up now are all on hold, perhaps for decades, until you realize what a criminal your father was, and how deformed his mindset and reasoning and the thing which passed as faith. Your family life is pretty much over, too; expect it. Don't trust those who sugar-coat the truth. You need very specialized help, and should ask for a victim counseling referral from the local law enforcement.

DavesNotHere
03-09-2016, 11:19 PM
That second video was beautiful, almost brought me to tears. Too bad some filth had to infect the comments.

LOL... I ignore troll comments.
For the record... and no offense intended... your comment reminded me of this :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY7ZX6ngOSs

(I enjoy the occasional lols... with my occasional tears- better than picking up someones shit and showing it to me hehe)

LibertyEagle
03-09-2016, 11:37 PM
What do you expect Deb when the leading republican candidate that is being pushed hard on these forums, is on record saying the government can't let people take over government property and that we cannot let states take control of federal land, the very issues that is being put to question here.

You must be talking about your hero, Ted Cruz.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3nZBDdmUlc&app=desktop

klamath
03-10-2016, 08:07 AM
You must be talking about your hero, Ted Cruz.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3nZBDdmUlc&app=desktop

"You have to maintain law and order, no matter what," Trump told The Hill Refering to the standoff

And his rousing defense of his arrested supporter speaks his true mind.

Ronin Truth
03-10-2016, 08:20 AM
And this is your government at work, on crack. Notice any difference? Are you okay with this? :D

squarepusher
03-10-2016, 10:09 AM
Yes, it's fine to shoot someone with their hands in the air as long as they say 'shoot me' then its OK

He reached twice for his jacket which had a gun in it. He didn't think there would be aerial surveillance in the woods that would capture it on tape through the trees. I assume his plan (based on his own words) was to get shot, then use this as a rallying point that the "Feds shot someone with their hands up!" to try to spark a "liberty uprising" through the country.

phill4paul
03-10-2016, 10:13 AM
He reached twice for his jacket which had a gun in it. He didn't think there would be aerial surveillance in the woods that would capture it on tape through the trees. I assume his plan (based on his own words) was to get shot, then use this as a rallying point that the "Feds shot someone with their hands up!" to try to spark a "liberty uprising" through the country.

He was shot at twice as he exited the vehicle with his hands in the air. This is not debatable.

PursuePeace
03-10-2016, 10:15 AM
He reached twice for his jacket which had a gun in it. He didn't think there would be aerial surveillance in the woods that would capture it on tape through the trees. I assume his plan (based on his own words) was to get shot, then use this as a rallying point that the "Feds shot someone with their hands up!" to try to spark a "liberty uprising" through the country.

Did you not see where they shot at him while his hands were in the air:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?491225-Jerry-Delemus-Arrested!&p=6160225&viewfull=1#post6160225

LibertyEagle
03-10-2016, 10:27 AM
Oh, I've long given up on "whining". I issue warnings to (try to) help and have some laughs at the follies. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him want to be free. /shrugs I've found that worrying about things/people I can't control just gives me headaches.

Well, you could always go back and worship at your sensei's (TruthWarrior) feet, like you used to. ;)

JK/SEA
03-10-2016, 03:27 PM
He reached twice for his jacket which had a gun in it. He didn't think there would be aerial surveillance in the woods that would capture it on tape through the trees. I assume his plan (based on his own words) was to get shot, then use this as a rallying point that the "Feds shot someone with their hands up!" to try to spark a "liberty uprising" through the country.

LOL....damn, you win the 'dog turd' post of the week award...congrats.

squarepusher
03-10-2016, 04:46 PM
He was shot at twice as he exited the vehicle with his hands in the air. This is not debatable.

I watched the video may times. He crashes his car in the snow (almost plowing through the roadblock). The he immediately jumps out of the car and runs towards the officers (yes with his hands up). Then he reaches for his gun twice in order to provoke the police to shoot him. I don't know it was right for the police to shoot him, although it was definitely his intention to die there (read what he said beforehand also). The police were most likely legally justified in killing him since he charged at them after nearly crashing his car. Although, you can see the officer in the woods was the one who shot him from behind (this officer did not have a clear view if he actually grabbed his gun or not). The officers with the front view could see he did not actually grab his gun, he just gestured for it, and did not shoot him. This is fully suicide by cop, this guy wanted to be a martyr and had a deathwish which was granted.

If he really wanted to surrender, could have put his hands up through his window. Basically, LeVoy is playing 100% people like you, "liberty" folk who seem to think occupying a federal building is the new Boston Tea Party, and you are eating up the bait pretty deliciously.

phill4paul
03-10-2016, 04:58 PM
I watched the video may times. He crashes his car in the snow (almost plowing through the roadblock). The he immediately jumps out of the car and runs towards the officers (yes with his hands up). Then he reaches for his gun twice in order to provoke the police to shoot him. I don't know it was right for the police to shoot him, although it was definitely his intention to die there (read what he said beforehand also). The police were most likely legally justified in killing him since he charged at them after nearly crashing his car. Although, you can see the officer in the woods was the one who shot him from behind (this officer did not have a clear view if he actually grabbed his gun or not). The officers with the front view could see he did not actually grab his gun, he just gestured for it, and did not shoot him. This is fully suicide by cop, this guy wanted to be a martyr and had a deathwish which was granted.

If he really wanted to surrender, could have put his hands up through his window. Basically, LeVoy is playing 100% people like you, "liberty" folk who seem to think occupying a federal building is the new Boston Tea Party, and you are eating up the bait pretty deliciously.

My goodness, you come in here with the M$M diatribe and have no understanding of the latest developments. Imagine my surprise. :rolleyes:

As he exited the vehicle. With his hands in the air. He was shot at twice by an FBI/HRT assassin. This was admitted to by the investigating sheriff department. The FBI never reported that they had fired and, in fact, tried to cover it up. 5 FBI agents are currently under investigation. Though we know it will lead to nothing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH4PInHFfOc

Son_of_Liberty90
03-11-2016, 12:40 AM
Video posted in official article now. Nice!

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/03/oregon_standoff_fbi_lie_uncove.html



Bullet hole on LaVoy Finicum's truck traced to elite FBI team

BEND – Something didn't seem right about the bullet hole in the top of Robert "LaVoy" Finicum's white Dodge pickup.
Investigators from the Deschutes County Sheriff's Office could account for bullet holes in the left front hood, the driver's side mirror and the front grille. They came from the AR-15 of a state trooper who had fired three times at the truck as Finicum raced at 70 mph toward a police roadblock on Jan. 26.

The angle of a fourth bullet hole didn't match the others.

An elaborate computer analysis, a review of the FBI aerial video of the shooting scene and a video from a passenger in Finicum's pickup produced a result that startled the team poring over evidence into Finicum's fatal shooting that day
...