DamianTV
02-25-2016, 05:01 PM
You can explain why you support either side, so I tried to refrain from asking any Loaded Questions myself.
Pretty simple question. Polls elsewhere, probably with Loaded Questions, show about 75% of the support is going to the FBI to not only unlock this single IPhone, but ALL of them. If the single IPhone could be unlocked without compromising the privacy of every IPhone out there, I'd support the Feds, but creating a back door is NOT about the one IPhone, it is about all of them.
Loaded Questions: ABC had an interview between David Muir and Cook (president of Apple) on the subject, and Muir, in typical MSM fashion was presenting misleading information. He tried to bias everything by presenting the information about the families of the victims in such a way that causes any viewers to misinterpret ALL the families supporting the Feds, and that is NOT true. Some of victims families have come out in support of Apple. Not everyone has the ability to spot the misleading presentations, and how you and I end up being asked Loaded Questions. A Loaded Question would be something like "do you want to see Justice for the victims of the families", and if people answer "yes" on that, those statistics would show "support of FBI", thus, purposeful rephrasing in order to manufacture Peer Pressure where none may actually exist. Reminds be of Penn & Tellers Bullshit with the Pollster Frank Lutz. Fuck you, Frank! Why? Because Frank Lutz is quite skilled at asking what he calls "the right questions" and I call a "Loaded Question", which leaves no real choice in the decision without appearing to be an asshole.
Unstoppable Force meets the Immovable Object.
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Edit:
Brief explanation for those not following the story. The phone is locked with a 4 digit passcode. The fear is if they enter the wrong code 10 times, the data will be deleted from the phone.
A bit more. The FBI already contacted apple to "reset the passcode", but by doing so, they screwed themselves since none of the data backs up "to the cloud" for them to gain access that way. Now, the FBI is pretty much demanding that Apple write a Backdoor into the phone after they screwed up, but in writing said software, Apple will compromise the privacy and safety of all iphone users.
Other threads already have the DOJ demanding access to 12 other phones.
Now, here is the real problem. If the guy was smart, Farood would have wiped the data completely from the phone prior to going on his "mission", so the FBI would most likely still be left with zero data and most likely no way to recover it. Other valid points mentioned is that the entire thing is a PLOY because for all practical purposes, everything is already wide open, and this is only intended to create a false sense of privacy and security.
Possible outcomes are either Apple caves, or they dont. Our phones are still surveillance devices for the FedGov to snoop on anyone at any time. Thus, whether Apple gives in or not, it is only going to be done to maintain the Illusion that there is some semblance of adhering to the constitution. The whole thing is turning into a dog and pony show.
Pretty simple question. Polls elsewhere, probably with Loaded Questions, show about 75% of the support is going to the FBI to not only unlock this single IPhone, but ALL of them. If the single IPhone could be unlocked without compromising the privacy of every IPhone out there, I'd support the Feds, but creating a back door is NOT about the one IPhone, it is about all of them.
Loaded Questions: ABC had an interview between David Muir and Cook (president of Apple) on the subject, and Muir, in typical MSM fashion was presenting misleading information. He tried to bias everything by presenting the information about the families of the victims in such a way that causes any viewers to misinterpret ALL the families supporting the Feds, and that is NOT true. Some of victims families have come out in support of Apple. Not everyone has the ability to spot the misleading presentations, and how you and I end up being asked Loaded Questions. A Loaded Question would be something like "do you want to see Justice for the victims of the families", and if people answer "yes" on that, those statistics would show "support of FBI", thus, purposeful rephrasing in order to manufacture Peer Pressure where none may actually exist. Reminds be of Penn & Tellers Bullshit with the Pollster Frank Lutz. Fuck you, Frank! Why? Because Frank Lutz is quite skilled at asking what he calls "the right questions" and I call a "Loaded Question", which leaves no real choice in the decision without appearing to be an asshole.
Unstoppable Force meets the Immovable Object.
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Edit:
Brief explanation for those not following the story. The phone is locked with a 4 digit passcode. The fear is if they enter the wrong code 10 times, the data will be deleted from the phone.
A bit more. The FBI already contacted apple to "reset the passcode", but by doing so, they screwed themselves since none of the data backs up "to the cloud" for them to gain access that way. Now, the FBI is pretty much demanding that Apple write a Backdoor into the phone after they screwed up, but in writing said software, Apple will compromise the privacy and safety of all iphone users.
Other threads already have the DOJ demanding access to 12 other phones.
Now, here is the real problem. If the guy was smart, Farood would have wiped the data completely from the phone prior to going on his "mission", so the FBI would most likely still be left with zero data and most likely no way to recover it. Other valid points mentioned is that the entire thing is a PLOY because for all practical purposes, everything is already wide open, and this is only intended to create a false sense of privacy and security.
Possible outcomes are either Apple caves, or they dont. Our phones are still surveillance devices for the FedGov to snoop on anyone at any time. Thus, whether Apple gives in or not, it is only going to be done to maintain the Illusion that there is some semblance of adhering to the constitution. The whole thing is turning into a dog and pony show.