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Matt Collins
12-07-2007, 10:45 AM
"Ron Paul for President"

or

"Vote Ron Paul for President"



It should NOT talk about the Revolution, or Googling Ron Paul.

Unspun
12-07-2007, 10:46 AM
This has been discussed MANY times before, and the logic behind their choice is sound to me. At this point there is no use to make a fuss about it now.

ItsTime
12-07-2007, 10:47 AM
I agree, I thought there was great discussion on how the grassroots need to tone down the "Revolution" a bit because it was turning a lot of the mainstream voters off. (this was before all the new blimp people showed up and flooded the board)

If they can not have it say president it should say 2008.

jcims
12-07-2007, 10:48 AM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

cero
12-07-2007, 10:50 AM
lolwut

wealeat
12-07-2007, 10:50 AM
Matt, you aren't going to change this, please stop trying. As long as it says Ron Paul, he is going to benefit from it.

McDermit
12-07-2007, 10:53 AM
There is no logic behind it. To get around the FEC, they can't say PRESIDENT anywhere.

seapilot
12-07-2007, 10:53 AM
Matt didnt you previously suggest a hundred times the blimp was originally a bad idea? Shouldve taken your well heeded advice and we wouldnt have to make such trivial decisions as this one right now and instead maybe put the money toward more automatic phone calls that have a proven record. Sorry, couldnt help the sarcasm....this subject has been discussed in previous threads already and there is a reason it cant advertise Ron Paul running for president besides much of the electorate doesnt even know Dr. Paul exists YET.

Man from La Mancha
12-07-2007, 10:56 AM
He just needs attention, you notice how he has to spread a few word message all over the empty space, not much to say but alot of emptiness to say it.


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Joe3113
12-07-2007, 10:57 AM
"Ron Paul for President"

or

"Vote Ron Paul for President"



It should NOT talk about the Revolution, or Googling Ron Paul.

Arent u the #$%$ who was bagging the blimp:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=40432

....and now you are trying to tell people what it should say.....hmmmm

Matt Collins
12-07-2007, 12:12 PM
Arent u the tard who was bagging the blimp:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=40432

....and now you are trying to tell people what it should say.....hmmmmI didn't say it was a good idea, in fact it isn't. But since it looks like it's going to happen, it should at least be done right!

Matt Collins
12-07-2007, 12:14 PM
Matt didnt you previously suggest a hundred times the blimp was originally a bad idea? Yes, and it still is a bad idea. But since it is going to happen, we should try to make the most of it.


there is a reason it cant advertise Ron Paul running for president Link?

tamor
12-07-2007, 12:14 PM
http://www.ronpaulblimp.com/Message.php

There is reason behind the messages on the blimp.

Matt Collins
12-07-2007, 12:15 PM
There is no logic behind it. To get around the FEC, they can't say PRESIDENT anywhere.Can you quote the law on that?

Matt Collins
12-07-2007, 12:17 PM
There is reason behind the messages on the blimp.I don't know who their "marketing experts" are, and I am sure they have good intentions, but they are not that bright. :rolleyes:

kylejack
12-07-2007, 12:18 PM
Can you quote the law on that?
Advertisements for a presidential campaign must be done with a political action committee, and donations to such a committee cannot exceed 2300 when combined with direct donations to the campaign. It would have been unlikely to get the funding. This is not an advertisement for a presidential campaign, but rather advertising the name Ron Paul. It could be referring to http://ronpaulsalon.com or any other Ron Paul, thus it is not an advertisement for a presidential campaign.

kylejack
12-07-2007, 12:19 PM
I don't know who their "marketing experts" are, and I am sure they have good intentions, but they are not that bright. :rolleyes:
The outside legal counsel is the former chairman of the FEC, but I'm sure you know more about campaign finance laws. :rolleyes:

Matt Collins
12-07-2007, 12:19 PM
Advertisements for a presidential campaign must be done with a political action committee, and donations to such a committee cannot exceed 2300 when combined with direct donations to the campaign. It would have been unlikely to get the funding. This is not an advertisement for a presidential campaign, but rather advertising the name Ron Paul. It could be referring to http://ronpaulsalon.com or any other Ron Paul, thus it is not an advertisement for a presidential campaign.

What section of federal code says that?

Matt Collins
12-07-2007, 12:20 PM
The outside legal counsel is the former chairman of the FEC, but I'm sure you know more about campaign finance laws. :rolleyes:

I didn't say anything about the legal counsel. I was talking about their marketing people.

kylejack
12-07-2007, 12:20 PM
What section of federal code says that?

McCain-Feingold BCFRA. I'm not going to cite it for you. You can go back and read all the threads you skipped where we discussed this at length.

McDermit
12-07-2007, 12:26 PM
I don't know who their "marketing experts" are, and I am sure they have good intentions, but they are not that bright. :rolleyes:

Agreed. But they posted saying they couldn't use "president" anywhere. It was it the Q&A the thread posted by their volunteer media relations person.


There was alternate artwork design that people were excited about, but the blimpco said it was too late (a lie, but whatever.)

http://ronpaulideas.com/images/OnceMore1.jpg

Elijah said that if the blimp continues past 1 month, they'll consider using that ^ instead.

Matt Collins
12-07-2007, 12:29 PM
I don't know who their "marketing experts" are, and I am sure they have good intentions, but they are not that bright. :rolleyes:



Ok -

It's not right to bash someone like that unless I explain why. Here goes...



"Who is Ron Paul?"
This is good for branding of course, and it does prompt an action which is good. But again, with only a single impression for most people, it will not be enough to compel a response even though it raises curiosity. If the person who sees this happens to hear about Ron within 72 hours of this impression then there might be enough momentum to generate a response. Perhaps a better idea would be "Will Ron Paul be the next President?" or "Are you voting for Ron Paul? We are!"



"Google Ron Paul"
This is the better of the 3 because as mentioned it does prompt an action. However without tying it to a specific part of someone's mind, it will probably not create enough psychological momentum to have them carry out an action. A better method would be "Google Congressman Ron Paul" or "Google Candidate Ron Paul"



"Love Revolution"
This is the WORST one because it scares many people. It scares everyone over the age of 30-35 because they DON'T WANT a revolution. It makes them nervous when people start discussing this sort of thing. It also alienates many conservatives (which is Ron's base) because they are not into the "love, peace, happiness" mode. This one should be eliminated at all costs, it will do much more harm than good.


Now, the idea that we are going to try to get people interested in politics simply by flying a blimp is mostly misguided. I am sure we'll pick up a few stragglers, but the majority of people don't vote, especially in the primaries, and don't care and won't care no matter what you put in front of them. This is why the blimp at this cost is fundamentally a bad idea because it isn't targeted enough (and yes I've discussed that ad nauseum in other threads).

Matt Collins
12-07-2007, 12:30 PM
Agreed. But they posted saying they couldn't use "president" anywhere. It was it the Q&A the thread posted by their volunteer media relations person.


There was alternate artwork design that people were excited about, but the blimpco said it was too late (a lie, but whatever.)

http://ronpaulideas.com/images/OnceMore1.jpg


That would've been a better one, however "Vote Ron Paul" would've been best ASSUMING that the information here is correct in which we 'aren't allowed to use the word "President"'.

tamor
12-07-2007, 03:04 PM
http://www.ronpaulblimp.com/Message.php

There is reason behind the messages on the blimp.

asmartchimp
12-07-2007, 04:08 PM
http://www.ronpaulblimp.com/Message.php

lol @ the reasoning behind the messages

Matt Collins
12-07-2007, 09:27 PM
lol @ the reasoning behind the messages
???

JaredR26
12-07-2007, 09:54 PM
I agree, I thought there was great discussion on how the grassroots need to tone down the "Revolution" a bit because it was turning a lot of the mainstream voters off. (this was before all the new blimp people showed up and flooded the board)

If they can not have it say president it should say 2008.

It can't say 2008 either. Direct reference to the election.

asmartchimp
12-07-2007, 10:03 PM
http://ronpaulideas.com/images/OnceMore1.jpg

Hopefully we can get it changed after the first month.

Matt Collins
12-07-2007, 11:13 PM
It can't say 2008 either. Direct reference to the election.Link to the law please?