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Lucille
02-04-2016, 08:31 PM
This bodes well for Ryan's leadership. In other words, just stop fighting it and embrace the bifactional ruling party's progressive suck.

Is the Tea Party even a thing anymore?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/02/03/paul-ryan-to-tea-party-you-are-the-problem/


Today, Paul Ryan gave a fascinating speech at Heritage Action, a tea party-allied organization that has fashioned itself as the guardian of conservative purity. The speech called for unity. “To quote William Wallace in Braveheart,” he said, “we have to unite the clans.”

But his speech was actually a repudiation of everything the tea party has done. Not only that, Ryan also took shots at the congressional Republican leadership, and even the current GOP presidential candidates. He didn’t call anyone out by name, but if you understand what’s happening now and the conflict that has roiled the Republican Party for the last seven years, the critique was hard to miss.

[...] It’s hard to tell where Ryan draws the line between real issues and distractions, but every time you define an issue as the latter, you’re telling some major Republican constituency to shut its mouth.

[...] Ryan also says: “we can’t let how you vote on an amendment to an appropriations bill define what it means to be a conservative.” This, too, is a direct shot at the tea party. The argument they’ve made over and over is that things like how you vote on an amendment do indeed define what it means to be a conservative. Since ideological differences within the party have been reduced almost to nothing, those kinds of decisions are what supposedly separate the believers from the apostates.

It's wild how presstitutes don't even try to hide their ideology.

Mani
02-04-2016, 10:38 PM
Paul Ryan go eat a dick.

Brian4Liberty
02-04-2016, 10:42 PM
Ryan also says: “we can’t let how you vote on an amendment to an appropriations bill define what it means to be a conservative.”

Sure. It's only about voting on the omnibus, and if you vote against it, you are a terrorist. And whatever you do, don't score the vote on cloture.

Dianne
02-04-2016, 11:04 PM
Someone needs to blow Paul Ryan to kingdom come. He is a sorry son of a bitch. A weasel, a piece of dog dung.... loser, criminal. And those are his best points !!

Weston White
02-04-2016, 11:33 PM
we can’t let how you vote on an amendment to an appropriations bill define what it means to be a conservative.

Uh, wouldn't that depend entirely upon the context of the spending being sought?

Son_of_Liberty90
02-04-2016, 11:58 PM
I'm not really surprised, Paul Ryan was always a weasel. He also has a very punchable face.

CaptainAmerica
02-05-2016, 12:00 AM
can this piece of fascist shit be de-elected.

Mach
02-05-2016, 12:02 AM
Just another puppet ranting his masters terms.

thoughtomator
02-05-2016, 12:14 AM
Exactly as I predicted.

I really would rather be wrong about this stuff.

oyarde
02-05-2016, 12:26 AM
Sorry , I must pass on the progressive suck . Not my thing .

Occam's Banana
02-05-2016, 01:44 AM
“To quote William Wallace in Braveheart,” [Paul Ryan] said, “we have to unite the clans.”

So the double-talking asshole who said this:


"This bill offends my principles, but I'm going to vote for this bill in order to preserve my principles ..."

has the unscrupled gall to cite William Wallace from Braveheart ...

I think I'm going to be ill.


Ryan also says: “we can’t let how you vote on an amendment to an appropriations bill define what it means to be a conservative.”

I would point out that while "how you vote on an amendment to an appropriations bill" may not "define what it means to be a conservative," it is certainly the case that "what it means to be a conservative" defines "how you [should] vote on an amendment to an appropriations bill." I would - but what two-faced, mealy-mouthed snakes like Ryan mean by "conservative" is "someone who seeks to 'conserve' whatever it is that liberals did twenty years ago."

(Or to paraphrase Ambrose Bierce: "a conservative is one who is enamored of existing evils, as distinct from the liberal, who wishes to replace them with new ones.")

otherone
02-05-2016, 07:25 AM
Ryan also says: “we can’t let how you vote on an amendment to an appropriations bill define what it means to be a conservative.”

"Integrity" demands that one's actions are in concert with one's values.

"Conservative" is a noun derived from the verb "to conserve".

CaptUSA
02-05-2016, 07:40 AM
"Conservative" is a noun derived from the verb "to conserve".Unless you are talking about the military... In that case, conserve means spend as much as possible to blow up everything you see.

LibertyEagle
02-05-2016, 07:57 AM
I would point out that while "how you vote on an amendment to an appropriations bill" may not "define what it means to be a conservative," it is certainly the case that "what it means to be a conservative" defines "how you [should] vote on an amendment to an appropriations bill." I would - but what two-faced, mealy-mouthed snakes like Ryan mean by "conservative" is "someone who seeks to 'conserve' whatever it is that liberals did twenty years ago."

(Or to paraphrase Ambrose Bierce: "a conservative is one who is enamored of existing evils, as distinct from the liberal, who wishes to replace them with new ones.")

There are also some of us who have been trying to conserve the principles upon which this country was founded. We are losing, of course. But, if we hadn't been trying, the country would likely have been gone long before now. I haven't done much of anything in the big picture of things, but those who came before me sure did.

LibertyEagle
02-05-2016, 08:02 AM
Unless you are talking about the military... In that case, conserve means spend as much as possible to blow up everything you see.

Yeah, the term has been co-opted for sure. Just like "libertarian" has.

Occam's Banana
02-05-2016, 10:46 AM
There are also some of us who have been trying to conserve the principles upon which this country was founded. We are losing, of course. But, if we hadn't been trying, the country would likely have been gone long before now. I haven't done much of anything in the big picture of things, but those who came before me sure did. Yes. I was referring to the kind of TARP-supporting "conservatism" of Paul "Medicare Part D" Ryan (or Newt "FDR was the greatest president of the 20th century" Gingrich, or etc.).

anaconda
02-05-2016, 04:25 PM
Someone needs to blow Paul Ryan to kingdom come. He is a sorry son of a bitch. A weasel, a piece of dog dung.... loser, criminal. And those are his best points !!

May I add another one of his greatest attributes? He is a pathological liar who claimed to have run a marathon in "two hours and fifty-something" when his actual time was more than four hours. There is something particularly creepy about people that lie about their athletic achievements.

On another note, the tea party seems very inarticulate in creating a mainstream narrative about why "going along to get along" is unacceptable. We continue to allow ourselves to be vilified for lack of this. It seems like only Alex Jones or Catherine Austin Fitts or Stephan Molyneux are willing and able to spell it out.

Mani
02-10-2016, 11:53 PM
May I add another one of his greatest attributes? He is a pathological liar who claimed to have run a marathon in "two hours and fifty-something" when his actual time was more than four hours. There is something particularly creepy about people that lie about their athletic achievements.

On another note, the tea party seems very inarticulate in creating a mainstream narrative about why "going along to get along" is unacceptable. We continue to allow ourselves to be vilified for lack of this. It seems like only Alex Jones or Catherine Austin Fitts or Stephan Molyneux are willing and able to spell it out.


I ran a half marathon and have a bunch of friends who are into marathons. I can tell you 100% no one forgets their time. These are events in an individual's life by a runner that aren't just "forgotten." Anyone that's ever run one of these things can tell you with 90 - 100% accuracy their old times. No one accidentally says a time hours apart from reality. That's just complete BS that he forgot or misspoke. He's a fucking liar, and must have felt his score wasn't heroic enough so tried to make it sound more awesome. I wonder what inferiority complex the man has where he has to stretch the truth about his accomplishments and also try to "fit in" as a good and proper conservative. Fuck this guy.

r3volution 3.0
02-11-2016, 12:06 AM
Yeah, the term has been co-opted for sure. Just like "libertarian" has.

Despite some people misusing the term, libertarian had/has a rigorous definition; "tea party" never did.

...just like "conservative,' for that matter.