Rand Paul's opponent will spend MILLIONS to smear him all over Kentucky

[Warlord]

I'm no Matt Collins but Jim Gray is a wealthy businessman and will likely spend millions smearing Rand Paul all over Kentucky! The question is will Kentuckians fall for it

[65fastback2+2]

Just look at the governor's race...they are coming around up there!

[Warlord]

yeah there's no way Gray will beat Rand. The question i how much of his family's fortune will he waste

[CPUd]

http://i.imgur.com/M5uFrJq.jpg

[presence]

Jim Gray is CEO of Gray Engineering

https://www.gray.com/about-gray/rankings

[hells_unicorn]

If I was Rand, I would have proxy groups with no official connection to him set up specifically to keep all rural and small town Kentuckian apprised of Mr. Gray's "lifestyle" and also have them float questions about how hostile Gray's policies have been towards Christians living in his sphere of power. Some here may consider this cynical, but this alone would probably nullify any outside help that Gray gets from the DNC.

[mit26chell]

Just looking at his businesses' website I get the feeling he gets major government subsidy / contracts.

[Umad]

I would have Sarah Palin come campaign in rural areas and invite a guy like Kaisch in the Northern parts. Point out how Mr. Gray wants to destroy Knetucky coal with Obama like policies and there you have a 30% victory.

[PaleoPaul]

If I was Rand, I would have proxy groups with no official connection to him set up specifically to keep all rural and small town Kentuckian apprised of Mr. Gray's "lifestyle" and also have them float questions about how hostile Gray's policies have been towards Christians living in his sphere of power. Some here may consider this cynical, but this alone would probably nullify any outside help that Gray gets from the DNC.
Rand's not the type of guy to delve into dog whistle politics.

[presence]

Just looking at his businesses' website I get the feeling he gets major government subsidy / contracts.

Not really, they mostly do warehouses, malls, manufacturing plants, hotels, etc. They create industrial space for fortune 500 companies.

[PCKY]

I just read and article from local media that Rand has two primary opponents! Where did they come from?

[CPUd]

They are the perennial-type candidates that most every statewide and federal election has.

[erowe1]

The question i how much of his family's fortune will he waste

Hopefully all of it.

[CPUd]

Not to worry, Christie has just endorsed Rand for Senate. He will help Rand keep KY safe from the marijuanas:
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/02/christie_id_be_happy_to_campaign_for_paul_in_kentu .html

[PCKY]

Jim Gray is CEO of Gray Engineering

https://www.gray.com/about-gray/rankings
He is the openly gay mayor of Lexington, Ky. There's no way he gets elected outside of Fayette County.

[libertyplz]

I'm no Matt Collins but Jim Gray is a wealthy businessman and will likely spend millions smearing Rand Paul all over Kentucky! The question is will Kentuckians fall for it

More like Jim Gay, am I right?

sorry, immature sense of humor, and you know... him being gay and all :p

[PCKY]

I'm no Matt Collins but Jim Gray is a wealthy businessman and will likely spend millions smearing Rand Paul all over Kentucky! The question is will Kentuckians fall for it
There is a sensitivity to Rand's aspirations for the presidency taking precedent over his devotion to Kentucky. But to Rand's credit, until he declared for the Presidency, he did meet and greets all over the state on every break, except when he went to Guatamala and Hati. In 30 years of Mitch, I only ever saw him at Vterens Day parade...once. Also, Rand opened a GOP office in the west end of Louisville, which hasn't seen a Republican since Coolidege. He does mobile office hours in the West end as well. So the majority of the state knows him, and the Democrats (who think a lot more like Republicans) like him.

[r3volution 3.0]

More like Jim Gay, am I right?

sorry, immature sense of humor, and you know... him being gay and all :p

Put that on a sign, spread it around KY, that alone will insure that Rand wins by 15% instead of 10%.

[hells_unicorn]

Rand's not the type of guy to delve into dog whistle politics.

Indeed he's not, which is why I stated having "proxy groups" do this, and also the whole "If I would do if I was Rand". It's all hypothetical, and truth be told, as someone who lives in rural Pennsylvania, I get an earful about how ***** people need to be constantly in the media and in everyone's faces and have good enough sense to be sick of it. But I'm sure I'm in the minority on this forum regarding that stuff.

[Spikender]

Not to worry, Christie has just endorsed Rand for Senate. He will help Rand keep KY safe from the marijuanas:
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/02/christie_id_be_happy_to_campaign_for_paul_in_kentu .html

You know as much as I bash Christie for being a Statist Thug, it's nice to see some respect and humbleness come from his jowls every once in a while.

[jkob]

I don't think you need to attack the guy's sexuality, if it's not a secret then people will talk on their own.

It is interesting the words Christie had for Rand, maybe being a team player in the Senate can pay off. These guys really owe it to Rand for the type of campaign he ran, not a scorched earth one like Cruz and Trump. Of course everybody is going to be nice now that they want to attract Rand's supporters and keep them from bailing to Bernie/third party.

Rand can make a lot of difference in the Senate, hopefully we can send a couple more doctors for him to be buddies with in Dr Kelli Ward and Dr Greg Brannon. Retiring McCain will make this presidential campaign hurt way less.

[PCKY]

I don't think you need to attack the guy's sexuality, if it's not a secret then people will talk on their own.

It is interesting the words Christie had for Rand, maybe being a team player in the Senate can pay off. These guys really owe it to Rand for the type of campaign he ran, not a scorched earth one like Cruz and Trump. Of course everybody is going to be nice now that they want to attract Rand's supporters and keep them from bailing to Bernie/third party.

Rand can make a lot of difference in the Senate, hopefully we can send a couple more doctors for him to be buddies with in Dr Kelli Ward and Dr Greg Brannon. Retiring McCain will make this presidential campaign hurt way less.
It's not really an attack on his sexuality. Rural Kentuckians don't care for the lifestyle and the city of Lexington has been pretty hard on Christian businesses that opted out of doing business with them based upon religious violations. He would likely get the same kind of support that Conway got.

[Mr.NoSmile]

I'm no Matt Collins but Jim Gray is a wealthy businessman and will likely spend millions smearing Rand Paul all over Kentucky! The question is will Kentuckians fall for it

I mean, wouldn't be much of an election if it wasn't a battle, so that's pretty much a given.

[69360]

I have nothing against gays, this is just stating facts. There is zero chance a gay democrat wins a statewide election in KY. It's no different than here in Maine, there was no chance Michaud who is gay would beat Lepage. Gays lose the conservative democrat vote that exists in rural areas. Conservative democrats will cross over and vote for the Republican instead of the gay.

[Tywysog Cymru]

If I was Rand, I would have proxy groups with no official connection to him set up specifically to keep all rural and small town Kentuckian apprised of Mr. Gray's "lifestyle" and also have them float questions about how hostile Gray's policies have been towards Christians living in his sphere of power. Some here may consider this cynical, but this alone would probably nullify any outside help that Gray gets from the DNC.

The DNC probably knows that Gray is a lost cause. They'll throw some money his way but put most of their resources into states they can win. It's the Kentucky Democratic Party that still think that the state is competitive. They will throw millions of dollars into his campaign. Democrats from Louisville and Lexington are very delusional.

[PaleoPaul]

The DNC probably knows that Gray is a lost cause. They'll throw some money his way but put most of their resources into states they can win. It's the Kentucky Democratic Party that still think that the state is competitive. They will throw millions of dollars into his campaign. Democrats from Louisville and Lexington are very delusional.
The DNC is going to spend their time focusing on defeating Pat McCrory and Mike Pence in the gubernatorial races this year. McCrory has been the focus of a lot of the "Moral Mondays" protests in NC, and Mike Pence is a pariah after signing RFRA last year. The left hates him for signing any sort of RFRA at all, and the right now hates him because he signed the RFRA "fix" a week after signing the original bill.

[PaleoPaul]

I have nothing against gays, this is just stating facts. There is zero chance a gay democrat wins a statewide election in KY. It's no different than here in Maine, there was no chance Michaud who is gay would beat Lepage. Gays lose the conservative democrat vote that exists in rural areas. Conservative democrats will cross over and vote for the Republican instead of the gay.
Didn't 53% of Maine vote for Question 1 three years ago?

[PCKY]

I have nothing against gays, this is just stating facts. There is zero chance a gay democrat wins a statewide election in KY. It's no different than here in Maine, there was no chance Michaud who is gay would beat Lepage. Gays lose the conservative democrat vote that exists in rural areas. Conservative democrats will cross over and vote for the Republican instead of the gay.
In Ky they stayed home rather than vote for Conway.

[Tywysog Cymru]

The DNC is going to spend their time focusing on defeating Pat McCrory and Mike Pence in the gubernatorial races this year. McCrory has been the focus of a lot of the "Moral Mondays" protests in NC, and Mike Pence is a pariah after signing RFRA last year. The left hates him for signing any sort of RFRA at all, and the right now hates him because he signed the RFRA "fix" a week after signing the original bill.

That's a lot more likely. Indiana is much more favorable to the Democrats than Kentucky, though it's still a conservative state.

[69360]

Didn't 53% of Maine vote for Question 1 three years ago?

Yes, in general people here have the attitude of do what you want if it doesn't effect me. So a lot of people could care less if gays get married but don't want one representing them or in a position of power.

Personally I would have had no problem with a gay governor, but voted for LePage.