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Lucille
02-02-2016, 04:01 PM
They'll get it too. There's always plenty of money for the MIC.

https://gma.yahoo.com/pentagon-request-7-5-billion-50-hike-fight-175006145--abc-news-topstories.html


Speaking before the Economic Club of Washington, D.C., Carter revealed the 50 percent increase for ISIS-related funds over its fiscal year 2016 budget.

“This will be critical as our updated coalition military campaign plan kicks in. For example, we’ve recently been hitting ISIL with so many GPS-guided smart bombs and laser-guided rockets that we’re starting to run low on the ones that we use against terrorists the most," Carter said. ISIS is also known as ISIL or the Islamic State. "So we’re investing $1.8 billion in FY 2017 to buy over 45,000 more of them.”

The budget request also will include a quadrupling of the funds to support NATO’s effort to counter Russian aggression in eastern Europe, raising the current amount of $789 million to $3.4 billion. This increase will allow for the rotation of more U.S. units in Europe, additional training, and the pre-positioning of gear.

“All of this together by the end of 2017 will let us rapidly form a highly-capable combined arms ground force that can respond theater-wide if necessary,” Carter said.

Fiscal year 2017 begins on Oct. 1, 2016.

Carter called Russia, along with China, “our most stressing competitors,” which “reflect a return to a great power competition.”

With Russia’s seizing of Crimea from the Ukraine and China’s claims on disputed islands in the South China Sea, Carter said “we cannot blind ourselves to the actions they appear to choose to pursue.”

Carter also outlined a series of innovations by the Strategic Capabilities Office: Placing micro-cameras and sensors one can find on smartphones on small diameter bombs; swarming micro-drones that can be launched from the back of a jet flying near the speed of sound; and self-driving boats.

In all, the Defense Department budget request will be nearly $583 billion and will shift in focus away from one potential enemy to multiple threats.

“We don’t have the luxury of just one opponent, or the choice between current fights and future fights -- we have to do both. And that’s what our budget is designed to do," Carter said.

AngryCanadian
02-02-2016, 04:05 PM
The budget request also will include a quadrupling of the funds to support NATO’s effort to counter Russian aggression in eastern Europe

What Russian aggression in eastern Europe? Ukraine and Crimea arent European. The majority of Crimea wanted to be with Russia. If they never wanted to be with Russia they haven't started an manufactured revolution yet.

The reason NATO wants Crimea so that they would be closer to Russia.The Russians know this. Their propaganda efforts agaisnt Russia arent going well.

phill4paul
02-02-2016, 04:07 PM
Yes, Lucille. They will get it. Perpetual war comes at a cost.

Indy Vidual
02-02-2016, 04:09 PM
A large increase in the minimum wage will generate the tax revenue to pay for these critical needs.

:rolleyes:

wizardwatson
02-02-2016, 04:11 PM
What Russian aggression in eastern Europe? Ukraine and Crimea arent European. The majority of Crimea wanted to be with Russia. If they never wanted to be with Russia they haven't started an manufactured revolution yet.

The reason NATO wants Crimea so that they would be closer to Russia.The Russians know this.

Well, they're passive aggressive. Clearly they know what we want them to do, and they won't do it. The more weapons we put on their borders the more compliant they will be.

This is just how we do things in the 80's.

AngryCanadian
02-02-2016, 04:13 PM
Well, they're passive aggressive. Clearly they know what we want them to do, and they won't do it. The more weapons we put on their borders the more compliant they will be.

This is just how we do things in the 80's.

There is a difference. America helped Bin Laden. And your guys in the military industry complex would love nothing more then to fulfill Nazis wet dreams of taking over Russia.

The Russians arent stupid.

Lucille
02-02-2016, 04:53 PM
Related:

Making Corrupt Killers Fat and Happy
Jonathan Marshall on the US military procurement system.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/02/no_author/making-corrupt-killers-fat-happy/


America’s military procurement machine may be the single most successful system of wealth transfer ever devised — moving tens of billions of dollars every year from ordinary taxpayers into the pockets of big defense contractors and their allies in Congress.

Ronin Truth
02-02-2016, 05:14 PM
Wouldn't it really be much easier and cheaper to just buy them?

pcosmar
02-02-2016, 05:35 PM
Pack up all the cops and send them. All of them,, everyone with any sort of LE Credentials,,and all the hardware the American people has bought.. and drop them in the middle of it.

I know I will feel much safer.

phill4paul
02-02-2016, 05:50 PM
Pack up all the cops and send them. All of them,, everyone with any sort of LE Credentials,,and all the hardware the American people has bought.. and drop them in the middle of it.

I know I will feel much safer.

I don't think I have ever heard a better solution in my life to a false problem.

Let the cops fight terrorists there so they don't have to fight them here!

I'll buy one, one-way, ticket. Gladly.

farreri
02-02-2016, 10:52 PM
How about we become less free, so ISIS won't want to attack us anymore because of our freedoms...and stuff.

Uriel999
02-02-2016, 10:55 PM
How about we become less free, so ISIS won't want to attack us anymore because of our freedoms...and stuff.

I think we've been trying that already...

TheTexan
02-02-2016, 11:02 PM
Only $7.5 billion to blow up ISIS? That's a good bang for the buck

Danke
02-02-2016, 11:25 PM
Only $7.5 billion to blow up ISIS? That's a good bang for the buck

That is my concern. Probably not enough. We should probably dedicate more funds for that cause.

oyarde
02-02-2016, 11:53 PM
That is my concern. Probably not enough. We should probably dedicate more funds for that cause.

Since I will never pay taxes after 2017 , I am counting on you to cover for me .

Danke
02-03-2016, 01:20 AM
Since I will never pay taxes after 2017 , I am counting on you to cover for me .

Working on it.

http://www.peakprosperity.com/video/85850/playlist/92161/crash-course-chapter-15-demographics

Origanalist
02-03-2016, 02:56 AM
Pack up all the cops and send them. All of them,, everyone with any sort of LE Credentials,,and all the hardware the American people has bought.. and drop them in the middle of it.

I know I will feel much safer.

This is the best idea I have heard in years.

Origanalist
02-03-2016, 02:59 AM
They'll get it too. There's always plenty of money for the MIC.

https://gma.yahoo.com/pentagon-request-7-5-billion-50-hike-fight-175006145--abc-news-topstories.html

Yes, by all means lets go make an even bigger mess over there so we will have even more of a hideously inhumane situation to point at that has to be "fixed". Isn't it wonderful how this works? The well literally never runs dry.

Mani
02-03-2016, 03:37 AM
I thought the thread title should be more aptly, "Arm ISIS"



Gotta make ISIS a bigger threat, need a worthy enemy to keep boobus scared at night.

Dr.3D
02-03-2016, 04:36 AM
I thought the thread title should be more aptly, "Arm ISIS"



Gotta make ISIS a bigger threat, need a worthy enemy to keep boobus scared at night.
That's what they have been doing, that's why we need to send the cops over there to apprehend them.

Lucille
02-03-2016, 09:05 AM
Pentagon Will Spend $3.4 Billion Next Year To Keep You Safe From "Aggressive" Russians
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-02/pentagon-will-spend-34-billion-next-year-keep-you-safe-aggressive-russians


The US military faces five “big challenges,” Ash Carter told the Economic Club of Washington on Tuesday.

Those challenges are: Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, and ISIS.

So essentially, the exact same “challenges” Washington has been trotting out for years to justify hundreds upon hundreds of billions in defense spending, only with one CIA pet project gone horribly awry added to the list.

Despite the fact that The Pentagon’s list of threats includes all of the usual suspects, Carter contends that "today's security environment is dramatically different than the one America has been engaged with for the last 25 years.”

This “new” environment, Carter argues, “requires new ways of thinking and new ways of acting.”

Developing these “new” ways of doing business militarily will apparently cost $582.7 billion. That’s the figure for The Pentagon’s 2017 defense budget and it will include the following line items.
$7.5 billion to fight Islamic State (which the US pretty clearly thinks is going to be sticking around for a while because after all, the next fiscal year doesn’t begin until October)
$71.4 billion for “strategic development”
$8.1 billion on “undersea warfare”
$1.8 billion for “munitions” (recall that the US is about to run out of bombs to drop on the Mid-East)
Drilling down, Washington will increase military spending in Europe fourfold to $3.4 billion in an effort to deter what the Pentagon calls “Russian aggression.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user92183/imageroot/2016/02/02/Aggression_0.png

“Almost half of the new investments Carter will propose are related to what officials see as a growing threat from Moscow, where President Vladimir Putin has demonstrated his willingness to employ Russian military might from Ukraine to Syria,” The Washington Post wrote on Monday. “Under the proposed expansion to the European Reassurance Initiative the Pentagon would increase the U.S. troop presence in Europe; expand positioning of combat vehicles and other equipment there; help allies build up military infrastructure; and train more allied troops.”

In other words, $3.4 billion worth of (loud) sabre rattling in the Baltics.

“This is not really a provocation or an escalation,” a senior administration official said. “Rather, it is the result of our longer term response to Russia’s foreign interventions."

Right. Well you can bet Russia won't see it that way. If Moscow had 62,000 troops (the number of active duty US service members operating in Europe) in Canada and Mexico along with a variety of "equipment" and missiles, The White House would be just as ornery and hypersensitive as The Kremlin sometimes appears to be.

Additionally, it's always worth noting the hypocrisy inherent in the utterances of any US official who chides another nation for "foreign interventions" when Washington has its hands in more global conflicts that we'd care to catalogue.

"Even as we fight today’s fights, we must also be prepared for the fights that might come 10, 20 or 30 years down the road," Carter said on Tuesday, as though the idea of not fighting has never crossed his mind...

presence
02-03-2016, 09:31 AM
Thread: Pentagon to Request $7.5 Billion, a 50% Hike, in Fight Against ISIS (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?489589-Pentagon-to-Request-7-5-Billion-a-50-Hike-in-Fight-Against-ISIS)


business as usual, thanks for pinching me to remind me this morning's news feed is real; nobel peace prize trump, drop out rand, and more money for the pentagon. suddenly the mesh of reality knits itself back together as if nothing ever happened

Occam's Banana
02-03-2016, 09:43 AM
Just suck it up, people! Freedom isn't free, you know ...

Lucille
02-04-2016, 12:02 PM
Acts of aggression come from Pentagon, not Russia or China
https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/latest-rt/


https://www.rt.com/op-edge/331137-budget-threat-pentagon-us/

RT: Why does the US defense secretary apparently regard Russia and China as bigger threats than ISIS?

Karen Kwiatkowski: It is hard to say, but I do believe that in terms of justifying the major contractors that sell weapon systems to the Pentagon and around the world, China and Russia - both in the sense they’ve got big militaries, big air forces, big navies, good size armies – that allows them [the US] to justify these major weapon systems that we in the US really don’t have much use for and we don’t use very effectively against ISIL or any of these others. But this is a justification for us to continue the flow, the pipeline of taxpayer money into these major weapon systems and their corporate sponsors, which of course are heavily influential.
[...]
RT: What message is the US sending to Moscow and Beijing by increasing its military budget for Europe and listing these countries among its top threats? Does it want to start a new arms race?

KK: One of the big exports that [the US] have, as we well know is weapons of all kinds and particularly the kinds of weapons that great states like to deploy – great armies, navies and air forces. If…the US, Washington DC – the leadership of this country, Carter, for example – could facilitate a way to step up a major state arms race, the US is well positioned to fare well with that. Assuming we can continue to print money, assuming we can continue to borrow money to pay for it, it seems to me that the only act of aggression being displayed here is the one coming out of the Pentagon.

ZENemy
02-04-2016, 12:08 PM
Well; what do they care? Its not their money, they steal every dollar they have so they have no dog in the fight.

They do whatever they want, we do nothing and they get rich.

After isis will be BSIS, then asiu, then *insert new acronym*, it wont stop, until we stop them.

Lucille
02-04-2016, 12:30 PM
Yeah, and speaking of ISIS...what convenient timing. Just when Americans were finally getting sick of the neocons' endless wars.

Did the U.S. government foster the creation of ISIS?
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?480329-Did-the-U-S-government-foster-the-creation-of-ISIS

http://thepetesantillishow.com/wp-content/themes/bootstart/timthumb.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fthepetesantillishow. com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F04%2Fisis-made-in-usa.jpg&q=90&w=402&h=300&zc=1

Probable Cause with Sibel Edmonds- How Gladio Morphed Its Al Qaeda Brand into ISIS- A Step-By-Step Illustration
A Gladio-Mainstream Media Partnership: The Recycling & Establishment of Designed Terror Brands
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2015/08/17/probable-cause-with-sibel-edmonds-how-gladio-morphed-its-al-qaeda-brand-into-isis-a-step-by-step-illustration/#sthash.fPSyfw7h.dpuf


In this episode we discuss branding and promoting terror organization brands. Specifically, we discuss how the deep-state and its partner, the media, go about designing, creating, branding and marketing self-created terror organization brands. Even more specifically, we look into two deep-state-created terror organization brands: Al Qaeda & ISIS. With vivid examples we illustrate the re-branding of the Al Qaeda Terror Corporation into the ISIS Terror Corporation. We provide comparison between the 2002-2003 Al Qaeda media marketing archives and the 2013-2015 ISIS media marketing coverage, and establish the uncanny sameness between the two brands.

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ZENemy
02-04-2016, 01:05 PM
Yeah, and speaking of ISIS...what convenient timing. Just when Americans were finally getting sick of the neocons' endless wars.

Did the U.S. government foster the creation of ISIS?
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?480329-Did-the-U-S-government-foster-the-creation-of-ISIS

http://thepetesantillishow.com/wp-content/themes/bootstart/timthumb.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fthepetesantillishow. com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F04%2Fisis-made-in-usa.jpg&q=90&w=402&h=300&zc=1

Probable Cause with Sibel Edmonds- How Gladio Morphed Its Al Qaeda Brand into ISIS- A Step-By-Step Illustration
A Gladio-Mainstream Media Partnership: The Recycling & Establishment of Designed Terror Brands
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2015/08/17/probable-cause-with-sibel-edmonds-how-gladio-morphed-its-al-qaeda-brand-into-isis-a-step-by-step-illustration/#sthash.fPSyfw7h.dpuf



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:eek: SMDH