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Lucille
01-28-2016, 11:48 AM
The long march through the institutions...

http://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/01/28/karl-marx-is-the-most-assigned-economist-in-u-s-college-classes/


No wonder most college students are such dumbasses. Where is von Mises, Hayek, and Rothbard? We’re Doomed.
[...]
In case you had any doubts that America’s college campuses are dominated by Godless communists, fresh statistical evidence is at hand.

More than 25 years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, the collapse of the Soviet Union and the onset of market economy practices in China, “The Communist Manifesto” still ranks among the top three most frequently assigned texts at American universities.
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For instance, a search for “economics” shows Paul Krugman at the top of the list with his iconic “Economics,” which gets a count of 1,081 and score of 89.4. However, Gregory Mankiw’s “Macroeconomics,” doesn’t appear at all under the same search, even though it gets a count of 989 and a teaching score of 87.5.

Karl Marx’s classic receives a count of 3,189 and a score of 99.7. It doesn’t actually show up under economics texts either, as it is generally taught along with philosophy texts such as “The Social Contract,” by Jean-Jacques Rousseau; “Leviathan,” by Thomas Hobbes; and “On Liberty,” by John Stuart Mill.

The only books assigned more frequently than “The Communist Manifesto” were “The Elements of Style,” the writing guide by William Strunk which was popularized by E.B. White, and “The Republic,” by Plato.

Among other standouts, “Mein Kampf,” by Adolph Hitler, received a count of 697 and a score of 75.7. “What Is To Be Done,” by Vladimir Lenin received a count of 361 and a teaching score of 45.9.

Here’s a look at the most frequently taught works by notable economists (and others) relating to economics and money:

"Marx was a fool with a large vocabulary of long words. Yet he did have an unacknowledged need to adopt the nonsensical 'dialectic' of Hegel. A parasitical pedant, shiftless and dishonest, he wanted to put in a claim on 'society' solely as a consumer. He embraced Communism because no other theory can be stretched even on paper into promising 'to each according to his needs.'"
--Isabel Paterson (http://www.anoopverma.com/2015/04/isabel-paterson-on-marx-and-marxism.html)

heavenlyboy34
01-28-2016, 11:55 AM
Not such a bad thing if the point is to discuss Marx's influence and/or ideas in the general sense. Ditto for any other highly influential figure (like Lincoln). Like Keynes, he's ridiculously wrong, but hip and appealing to the naive idealists.

Ronin Truth
01-28-2016, 01:25 PM
Probably helps to explain why Sanders is polling so well. :( :mad: :mad:

ZENemy
01-28-2016, 01:39 PM
"How did nazi Germany get so bad, how did nobody see it coming?"

r3volution 3.0
01-28-2016, 01:50 PM
http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/files/2015/04/witch-doctor.jpg

Marx is an economist like this fellow's a doctor.

idiom
01-28-2016, 01:58 PM
The communist manifesto is very short and definitely required reading.

Its not like everyone is being forced to read Das Kapital.

r3volution 3.0
01-28-2016, 02:01 PM
The communist manifesto is very short and definitely required reading.

Its not like everyone is being forced to read Das Kapital.

Yes, but it's not being taught critically.

ThePaleoLibertarian
01-28-2016, 02:10 PM
The Hegelian dialectic is hardly nonsensical.

I took an economics course at a "prestigious" UC when I was still high school age. The place is ground zero for progressives. The semester consisted of having to practically memorize half of Alan Greenspan's book for the first quarter, then the second half in the second quarter. The TA didn't know what fiat currency referred to. The problems in modern econ courses go far beyond the Marxoids.

The Marxist crap I had to suffer through was far more prevalent in sociology courses and in high school. There was an assignment freshman year that was essentially to write a paper praising Che Guevara. My initial draft was pretty critical of him, so the teacher "corrected" me.

erowe1
01-28-2016, 02:16 PM
But most likely the bulk of those are not economics classes.

This is predictable. Maybe he shouldn't be #1, but I don't see the simple fact that he's assigned a lot as a bad thing.

dannno
01-28-2016, 02:18 PM
http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/files/2015/04/witch-doctor.jpg

Marx is an economist like this fellow's a doctor.


That's a huge insult to witch doctors.

heavenlyboy34
01-28-2016, 02:31 PM
Yes, but it's not being taught critically.
Where do you see this in the article?

heavenlyboy34
01-28-2016, 02:31 PM
That's a huge insult to witch doctors.
LOL :D True.

r3volution 3.0
01-28-2016, 02:54 PM
The Marxist crap I had to suffer through was far more prevalent in sociology courses...

Yes, the Marxoids were driven out of academic economics a long time ago. So they went down the hall and infected the softer sciences, where they can translate everything into post-modern gibberish so that it's impossible for anyone to prove them wrong (to be proven wrong, one must first be saying something).

r3volution 3.0
01-28-2016, 02:56 PM
Where do you see this in the article?

I'm speaking from personal experience.

Marx is taught (not in economics, but elsewhere in the liberal arts) uncritically.

...well, at best it's uncritical, more often it's laudatory.

ThePaleoLibertarian
01-28-2016, 03:25 PM
Yes, the Marxoids were driven out of academic economics a long time ago. So they went down the hall and infected the softer sciences, where they can translate everything into post-modern gibberish so that it's impossible for anyone to prove them wrong (to be proven wrong, one must first be saying something).
It's far more pernicious than that in my experience. The first day of Sociology 101 was showing us videos that preached Marxist doctrine. The teacher pontificated about how advertisements disrupted the market, and made it hard for consumers to actually choose the best product. She then talked about how under socialism, if we "pick the right choosers [of goods for everyone]" then all people could have enough. In other words, ads make it so that people can't make rational decisions for themselves, but socialist central planners can somehow make good choices for everyone. That was day one.

heavenlyboy34
01-28-2016, 03:29 PM
I'm speaking from personal experience.

Marx is taught (not in economics, but elsewhere in the liberal arts) uncritically.

...well, at best it's uncritical, more often it's laudatory.
Natch. Thnx. I only spent a year at a liberal arts school before dropping out to get into commercial art/design, so I don't have firsthand experience. ~hugs~

heavenlyboy34
01-28-2016, 03:32 PM
It's far more pernicious than that in my experience. The first day of Sociology 101 was showing us videos that preached Marxist doctrine. The teacher pontificated about how advertisements disrupted the market, and made it hard for consumers to actually choose the best product. She then talked about how under socialism, if we "pick the right choosers [of goods for everyone]" then all people could have enough. In other words, ads make it so that people can't make rational decisions for themselves, but socialist central planners can somehow make good choices for everyone. That was day one.
:eek: bizarre. Introductory sociology classes used to spend more time on basics before trying to tackle more complicated stuff like economics.

r3volution 3.0
01-28-2016, 03:50 PM
It's far more pernicious than that in my experience. The first day of Sociology 101 was showing us videos that preached Marxist doctrine. The teacher pontificated about how advertisements disrupted the market, and made it hard for consumers to actually choose the best product. She then talked about how under socialism, if we "pick the right choosers [of goods for everyone]" then all people could have enough. In other words, ads make it so that people can't make rational decisions for themselves, but socialist central planners can somehow make good choices for everyone. That was day one.

Wow, that's pretty blatant.

idiom
01-28-2016, 10:24 PM
Yes, but it's not being taught critically.

The problem isn't what being taught then is it.

The only point of an arts degree is to get really good at critical thinking.

Tywysog Cymru
01-28-2016, 11:02 PM
My Economics professor was a free market Capitalist who said that FDR was one of the worst Presidents ever. It was in political science classes that I read more leftist works (though to be fair we read Edmund Burke as well). Economics departments seem to generally be the more Conservative departments in a college or university.

muh_roads
01-29-2016, 03:46 PM
The manifesto I think is something everyone should read so you understand your enemy.