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goldenequity
01-21-2016, 09:25 AM
Governor Jerry Brown's LA gas well has ‘destabilized’, large crater develops in area (see how I made this Political? lol :) )

Los Angeles Times, Jan 15, 2016:
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-aliso-well-hole-20160115-story.html

Efforts to plug Porter Ranch-area gas leak worsened blowout risk, regulators say — Southern California Gas Co…
is trying to avoid a blowout, which state regulators said is now a significant concern
after a seventh attempt to plug the well created more precarious conditions at the site.

If a blowout occurs, highly flammable gas would vent directly up through the well… rather than dissipating as it does now…
State officials said a blowout would increase the amount of leaked gas…
That natural gas also creates the risk of a massive fire…
The risk of fire already is so high that cellphones and watches are banned from the site…

[The gas company's attempts to stop the leak] expanded a crater around the wellhead, state and gas company officials said.
The crater is now 25 feet deep, 80 feet long and 30 feet wide, those officials said…
[The gas company] declined repeated requests from The Times…
The gas company would not provide current photos of the site or allow media access…
In one internal state report obtained by The Times, an agency official described [one] kill effort as a “blowout to surface.”
“A large column of gas, aerated mud, and rock formed a geyser around the wellhead,” the state observer wrote.

Scott McGurk, senior oil and gas field regulator assigned to daily watch at Aliso Canyon, Jan 15, 2016:
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-aliso-well-hole-20160115-story.html

The site and wellhead were made more unstable by the gas company’s attempts
to stop the leak by pumping a slurry directly into the well…
The wellhead sits exposed within the cavernous space,
held in place with cables attached after it wobbled during the plugging attempt…
During one of [the plugging] attempts Nov. 13,
a hole in the ground opened 20 feet north of the well…
Gas that had seeped through diffuse rock fissures on the western side of the narrow ridge
began streaming instead from the new vent… the vent allowed a “serious amount of gas” to escape.

Gene Nelson, a physical sciences professor at Cuesta College, Jan 15, 2016:
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-aliso-well-hole-20160115-story.html

“If the wellhead fails, the thing is just going to be full blast…
It will be a horrible, horrible problem. The leak rates would go way up.”

Don Drysdale, California Department of Conservation spokesman, Jan 15, 2016:
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-aliso-well-hole-20160115-story.html

The possibility of fire [is] “a concern” even without a blowout.

Los Angeles Times, Jan 16, 2016:
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-porter-ranch-site-20160116-story.html

[There's] new evidence the [Puclic Utility Commission] is concerned
that the compromised well site in Aliso Canyon is vulnerable to either
a blowout… an explosion, or both…

PUC includes a warning that damage to the well system,
which was subjected to two months of aggressive high-pressure pumping to try to plug the leak,
might now permit air to mix with methane in a way that “could be catastrophic.”…
[T]he utility began a series of increasingly aggressive attempts to plug the well with heavy mud…
those efforts instead scoured a 25-foot-deep crater around the well,
blew out a large vent from which gas could escape more freely,
and threatened the stability of the wellhead itself…
The Department of Conservation says those facilities present
“a direct and ongoing threat to public health, safety, and the environment”…

NPR, Jan 15, 2016:
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/15/463178568/gas-company-understated-benzene-exposure-from-california-leak

Adding to concerns over the disaster, efforts to stop the leak
appear to have destabilized the well, the Los Angeles Times reports,
raising the risk of a blowout…
SoCalGas’ efforts to cap the well have actually increased the risk of a blowout.
Seven attempts to plug the leak have made the area less stable…
even without a blowout, the leak could catch on fire.

FOX LA transcript, Jan 16, 2016:
http://www.foxla.com/news/local-news/75199622-story

“Trying to avoid a blowout, state regulators say it’s now a big concern
after SoCalGas has tried to plug a leaking well near Porter Ranch seven times.
If a blowout happens, experts say highly flammable gas would go up the well,
creating a risk of a massive fire — possibly even an explosion.”

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Meet the Governor who ignored a toxic gas leak so his cronies could haul in $13.1 million
http://bulletin.represent.us/meet-the-governor-who-ignored-a-toxic-leak-so-his-cronies-could-cash-in

Despite all of this, Gov. Jerry Brown took a leisurely 75 days to declare a state of emergency and get relief to Porter Ranch.

Why would he wait?

Well, it all comes down to conflicting interests: Brown’s sister has been a Director of Sempra since 2013 and holds $400,000 in company stock. On top of that, the Governor has received $1.72 million from the oil & natural gas industry for his CA campaign efforts, and at least $100,000 from Sempra Energy, the parent company of Southern California (SoCal) gas.

angelatc
01-21-2016, 09:29 AM
I do not care. Cheap energy is better than expensive energy. Billions of dollars saved vs a once-in-a-lifetime catastrophe? I am with those odds.

goldenequity
01-21-2016, 09:32 AM
I do not care. Cheap energy is better than expensive energy. Billions of dollars saved vs a once-in-a-lifetime catastrophe? I am with those odds.

Would you feel the same way if it killed your kittens?

brushfire
01-21-2016, 09:35 AM
Good thing the government preemptively offset this environmental tragedy with their stringent vehicular emissions regulations. Of course, someone will be held accountable and lose their job due to the response delay and general inaction.

Forget about the inadequate infrastructure causing daily traffic jams - government provided roads are one of the most cherished gifts. Fully autonomous cars packed bumper to bumper, cleanly idling away. Well done CA...

presence
01-21-2016, 09:37 AM
Billions of dollars saved vs a once-in-a-lifetime catastrophe?

I'd like to see a copy of the accounting.

seapilot
01-21-2016, 10:54 AM
Good thing the government preemptively offset this environmental tragedy with their stringent vehicular emissions regulations. Of course, someone will be held accountable and lose their job due to the response delay and general inaction.

Forget about the inadequate infrastructure causing daily traffic jams - government provided roads are one of the most cherished gifts. Fully autonomous cars packed bumper to bumper, cleanly idling away. Well done CA...

No worries being forward thinking they banned wood stoves too.

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_29002364/bay-area-first:-woodburning-heating-devices-to-be-banned-in-new-homes

angelatc
01-21-2016, 11:02 AM
Would you feel the same way if it killed your kittens?

Absolutely. Kittens are even more plentiful than natural gas.

angelatc
01-21-2016, 11:07 AM
I'd like to see a copy of the accounting.

Go put together some numbers and prove me wrong. Until then, cheap energy is better than expensive energy.

goldenequity
01-21-2016, 12:11 PM
The 'Nuts and Bolts' of the issue: (forget the kittens :)

(1) Dozens of wells were drilled in the '40s and '50s to extract oil... 70 years ago... Now old rusty pipes.. 4-7" dia.
(2) The 'pocket' of oil, now gone, left a large underground cavern which remained useful as GAS storage.
(3) Some wells were then PERMANENTLY capped
(4) Some wells were converted to 'injection' wells to receive gas.
(5) The offending well is a 2 mile 7" rusted pipe in the ground that had a VALVE installed at the bottom INSTEAD OF A PERMANENT CAP/CONCRETE PLUG.
(6) The valve was a 'pressure safety' valve that worked like this:
If the pressure ABOVE the valve exceeded a certain pressure, it would indicate valve seal FAILURE and AUTO-CAP/SEAL the well indicating NEED FOR REPLACEMENT.
(7) That valve FAILED.
(8) It failed in 1979... 37 YEARS AGO. :mad:
(9) Nothing was done.

Multiply the above.... across a rusting/neglected-for-profit National energy network
and the 'once-in-a-lifetime' actuarial projection starts failing PROGRESSIVELY.
Not much different than our aging/neglected nuclear energy infrastructure.

Nobody wants to ecologically 'pay the piper' and shut-them-down safely/correctly after decades of profits.
In fact...
they want to keep USING them until they catastrophically FAIL...
then go BK and stick the taxpayers with the tab.

VIDEODROME
01-21-2016, 12:51 PM
My truck runs on kittens.

P3ter_Griffin
01-21-2016, 01:11 PM
Go put together some numbers and prove me wrong. Until then, cheap energy is better than expensive energy.

You must also factor in the police force costs that keep the well operators out of the bottom of the crator.

goldenequity
01-21-2016, 08:34 PM
My truck runs on kittens.

I bet your engine purrrrrs.

pcosmar
01-21-2016, 10:08 PM
Go put together some numbers and prove me wrong. Until then, cheap energy is better than expensive energy.

hey, I like gas.. Great fuel.

But a sinkhole spewing gas.. and explosion, in LA

it's like Biblical.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Toronto_Propane_Explosion.jpg

Natural Citizen
01-21-2016, 10:37 PM
I do not care. Cheap energy is better than expensive energy. Billions of dollars saved vs a once-in-a-lifetime catastrophe? I am with those odds.

Eat shit and live, evil one.

RonPaulIsGreat
01-21-2016, 11:15 PM
Got to do it, keep the machine going that keeps these extra 6 billion alive. Safety costs ask China.

idiom
01-22-2016, 01:20 AM
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rg17
01-24-2016, 08:35 AM
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