Trump Rally In Bernie Sanders Home Town....

[Conservative Warrior]

Its over Libruls...even the socialists are sick of socialism...if a picture isn't worth a thousand words..:D

https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0LEVzF2xo9WCmwAAgRXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTBy MjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?p=Trump+Vermont&fr=mcafee#id=3&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Ftrump-stadium.jpg&action=click

[TheNewYorker]

The 6 billion dollar man

We can rebuild him

We have the technology

Let's start with his brain

[hells_unicorn]

Instant negative rep for using the spelling "Libruls", I'm sorry, I can't stand Bernie Sanders but this is just flat out ridiculous and makes every Trump supporter actually look about as dumb as they are. Take this crap to a different website please.

[AngryCanadian]

Trump supporters are the worst.

[kahless]

Trump supporters are the worst.

I prefer Trump supporters over angry Canadians. Look, no traffic.

http://www.newyorker.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/borowitz-canada.jpg

[Miss Annie]

I really don't get why people attack the supporters instead of the candidate? Attacking the supporters is counterproductive for getting them to the Rand side.

[CPUd]

I really don't get why people attack the supporters instead of the candidate? Attacking the supporters is counterproductive for getting them to the Rand side.

LOL you think **********s respond to reason?

[McBell]

Guy's pretty much Mr. Potter from It's a Wonderful Life at this point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb2GzMstrMk

[Miss Annie]

LOL you think **********s respond to reason?

Anyone can respond to reason,..... but it's really all in the approach. There is some serious psychology to this and it is a tactic that I have used on my children over the years which has proved it's weight in gold.

If you want someone to REALLY listen to you..... 1) Don't put them on the defensive before or during the delivery of your message. 2) Treat their opinions as important, even if you don't agree with them.

[Conservative Warrior]

I really don't get why people attack the supporters instead of the candidate? Attacking the supporters is counterproductive for getting them to the Rand side.


Anyone can respond to reason,..... but it's really all in the approach. There is some serious psychology to this and it is a tactic that I have used on my children over the years which has proved it's weight in gold.

If you want someone to REALLY listen to you..... 1) Don't put them on the defensive before or during the delivery of your message. 2) Treat their opinions as important, even if you don't agree with them.

Its ok...really it is. There is nothing these fellas can tell me that i don't already know. Its a shame Rand chose such a piss poor campaign strategy ...pretty much DOA when the debates started...my fault ?...hardly !...

[Conservative Warrior]

Instant negative rep for using the spelling "Libruls", I'm sorry, I can't stand Bernie Sanders but this is just flat out ridiculous and makes every Trump supporter actually look about as dumb as they are. Take this crap to a different website please.

Thank you...a badge of honor it is...:)

[Sola_Fide]

Its ok...really it is. There is nothing these fellas can tell me that i don't already know. Its a shame Rand chose such a piss poor campaign strategy ...pretty much DOA when the debates started...my fault ?...hardly !...

You don't like Rand's strategy, so you choose to support a socialist like Trump instead? That makes sense...

[Conservative Warrior]

You don't like Rand's strategy, so you choose to support a socialist like Trump instead? That makes sense...

I supported Ron the 3 times he ran...bland Rand just doesn't do it for me...sorry. He lost the message, lost his way, tried to hold hands with establishment tools like McConnell ( who would have never went along with a Rand POTUS anyway no matter how much ass kissing)...wasn't hard to leave Rand behind at all. At least Trump so far has blown a hole in the big lie they call PC . That is more than Rand has done right there and he isn't even president yet. All those establishment pecker-heads to go after and he went after Trump....major turnoff....a little hint, you wont shame me in to submission. I'm much more strong willed than a bunch of butt hurts that have ran half the people off that used to be on this site...;)

Is Trump a solution to all our problems? Of course not! That said, he is already moving things that need to be moved and bringing issues back to the forefront that our dear leaders didn't want to discuss . He is moving things in the right direction and that is better than a big FAT ZERO....

[The Gold Standard]

I supported Ron the 3 times he ran...bland Rand just doesn't do it for me...sorry. He lost the message, lost his way, tried to hold hands with establishment tools like McConnell ( who would have never went along with a Rand POTUS anyway no matter how much ass kissing)...wasn't hard to leave Rand behind at all. At least Trump so far has blown a hole in the big lie they call PC . That is more than Rand has done right there and he isn't even president yet. All those establishment pecker-heads to go after and he went after Trump....major turnoff....a little hint, you wont shame me in to submission. I'm much more strong willed than a bunch of butt hurts that have ran half the people off that used to be on this site...;)

Is Trump a solution to all our problems? Of course not! That said, he is already moving things that need to be moved and bringing issues back to the forefront that our dear leaders didn't want to discuss . He is moving things in the right direction and that is better than a big FAT ZERO....

I've complained about Rand "losing the message" as much as anyone over the last few years. If I wasn't able to stomach it, my choice would have been not to vote at all. Not jump to the modern day Mussolini. That doesn't make much sense to me at all.

Now, if the message was never important to you, which I assume is the case here, then sure it makes sense. But don't complain about his message then. Complain that he doesn't want to kill enough brown people, or that he doesn't talk tough enough, or whatever other idiocy draws people to Trump.

[kahless]

I supported Ron the 3 times he ran...bland Rand just doesn't do it for me...sorry. He lost the message, lost his way, tried to hold hands with establishment tools like McConnell ( who would have never went along with a Rand POTUS anyway no matter how much ass kissing)...wasn't hard to leave Rand behind at all. At least Trump so far has blown a hole in the big lie they call PC . That is more than Rand has done right there and he isn't even president yet. All those establishment pecker-heads to go after and he went after Trump....major turnoff....a little hint, you wont shame me in to submission. I'm much more strong willed than a bunch of butt hurts that have ran half the people off that used to be on this site...;)

Yep and that is exactly what is happening not only here but out side of this forum. They are doing the opposite of what Miss Annie describes below then bitch and moan they are unable to convert people to their candidate. They may as well be campaigning for Trump with their silly attacks on not only Trump supporters but those who simply agree with a particular policy or do not buy into some ridiculous media narrative about Trump.


Anyone can respond to reason,..... but it's really all in the approach. There is some serious psychology to this and it is a tactic that I have used on my children over the years which has proved it's weight in gold.

If you want someone to REALLY listen to you..... 1) Don't put them on the defensive before or during the delivery of your message. 2) Treat their opinions as important, even if you don't agree with them.

The funniest thing about RPF these days is people here are attacking policies that Rand and Ron support if Trump supports the policy. I never thought I would see the day here of so many people coming out for gun control just because Trump is against it. They are even attacking parts of Trump's immigration policy that overlap with Rand's and Ron's.

[CPUd]

The funniest thing about RPF these days is people here are attacking policies that Rand and Ron support if Trump supports the policy. I never thought I would see the day here of so many people coming out for gun control just because Trump is against it. They are even attacking parts of Trump's immigration policy that overlap with Rand's and Ron's.

Continually repeating that lie won't make it true.

[Kotin]

I supported Ron the 3 times he ran...bland Rand just doesn't do it for me...sorry. He lost the message, lost his way, tried to hold hands with establishment tools like McConnell ( who would have never went along with a Rand POTUS anyway no matter how much ass kissing)...wasn't hard to leave Rand behind at all. At least Trump so far has blown a hole in the big lie they call PC . That is more than Rand has done right there and he isn't even president yet. All those establishment pecker-heads to go after and he went after Trump....major turnoff....a little hint, you wont shame me in to submission. I'm much more strong willed than a bunch of butt hurts that have ran half the people off that used to be on this site...;)

Is Trump a solution to all our problems? Of course not! That said, he is already moving things that need to be moved and bringing issues back to the forefront that our dear leaders didn't want to discuss . He is moving things in the right direction and that is better than a big FAT ZERO....

you are done here. Trump is an authoritarian who does not give one shit about the rule of law or the constitution.

the presidential oath of office is to defend the constitution, not anything else. Trump is a clown and anyone who supports him most likely supported Ron to be a contrarian.

[Sola_Fide]

you are done here. Trump is an authoritarian who does not give one shit about the rule of law or the constitution.

the presidential oath of office is to defend the constitution, not anything else. Trump is a clown and anyone who supports him most likely supported Ron to be a contrarian.

Thank you.

[Tywysog Cymru]

I'm sure that Sanders supporters love Trump's plans for national healthcare and higher taxes.

[Philmanoman]

Dont worry about Trump...
Wait till the voting starts...Its not going to go like people are thinking.

[kahless]

Continually repeating that lie won't make it true.

Bullshit, I did not say or mean YOU or ALL members, just the handful off members here freaking out over Trump and attacking other RPF forum members and YOU know that.

You calling what I say a lie is for the sake of calling me liar. I am not going to waste my time pulling out the literally hundreds of posts where I am getting piled upon because of this since for one you participated in those same threads with your snark and already know it and two, you have always been a douchebag to me in your replies as you just demonstrated.

[kahless]

you are done here. Trump is an authoritarian who does not give one shit about the rule of law or the constitution.

the presidential oath of office is to defend the constitution, not anything else. Trump is a clown and anyone who supports him most likely supported Ron to be a contrarian.

As far as "to be contrarian", I think it is possible people that supported Ron may support Trump to send a big FU to the media, the Republican party and to stop someone far worse. Rubio for example I believe is the most dangerous candidate in my life time. Worse than McCain and Lindsey Graham. There is allot you could say about Trump but I think people have not been paying all that closely to what Rubio is saying.


Dont worry about Trump...
Wait till the voting starts...Its not going to go like people are thinking.

I think the polls have underestimated Rand. I could see him competitively in the top 3 which is going to shock the media. Cruz I believe will be on his way down and there is a good possibility some of those votes will come over to Rand.

[francisco]

...The funniest thing about RPF these days is people here are attacking policies that Rand and Ron support if Trump supports the policy. I never thought I would see the day here of so many people coming out for gun control just because Trump is against it...

Can you please support your assertion by naming which members here have "come out for gun control" and provide a couple of thread citations to back it up?

If there are "so many people" in this category as you say, it shouldn't be too hard.

I read the forum fairly attentively, and I don't think I've seen anyone come out for gun control, except maybe some of the obvious progressive trolls who by their writings clearly don't support Ron or Rand either.

Once again, put up or shut up. The last time I called you out for making an unsupportable assertion (specifically, accusing certain other members, by name, of being sockpuppets without any evidence at all) you couldn't back up your claims.

[kahless]

Can you please support your assertion by naming which members here have "come out for gun control" and provide a couple of thread citations to back it up?

If there are "so many people" in this category as you say, it shouldn't be too hard.

I read the forum fairly attentively, and I don't think I've seen anyone come out for gun control, except maybe some of the obvious progressive trolls who by their writings clearly don't support Ron or Rand either.

Once again, put up or shut up.

Immigration was 100x more since this summer on, gun control less but it is there. I did not need to search and just scrolled down a bit to find one. I found a 2 page thread from a couple days ago that YOU participated in. Post 3, and post 4 are members supporting gun control.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?487718-Hillary-Clinton-Should-Disarm-Her-Bodyguards-If-She-Really-Believes-%91Guns-Don%92t-Keep-You-Safe

So get off your high horse and don't give me this bullshit you read the forums without seeing people coming out for policies the opposite of the Paul's for the sake of opposing Trump.

[Origanalist]

Immigration was 100x more since this summer on, gun control less but it is there. I did not need to search and just scrolled down a bit to find one. I found a 2 page thread from a couple days ago that YOU participated in. Post 3, and post 4 are members supporting gun control.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?487718-Hillary-Clinton-Should-Disarm-Her-Bodyguards-If-She-Really-Believes-%91Guns-Don%92t-Keep-You-Safe

So get off your high horse and don't give me this bullshit you read the forums without seeing people coming out for policies the opposite of the Paul's for the sake of opposing Trump.

Lol, what the hell are you talking about? Successful troll was successful I guess. And you stating people have come out for gun control because Trump is supposedly against it is bullshit of the highest order.

[hells_unicorn]

Immigration was 100x more since this summer on, gun control less but it is there. I did not need to search and just scrolled down a bit to find one. I found a 2 page thread from a couple days ago that YOU participated in. Post 3, and post 4 are members supporting gun control.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?487718-Hillary-Clinton-Should-Disarm-Her-Bodyguards-If-She-Really-Believes-%91Guns-Don%92t-Keep-You-Safe

So get off your high horse and don't give me this bullshit you read the forums without seeing people coming out for policies the opposite of the Paul's for the sake of opposing Trump.

I can only speak for myself here but I never changed any of my positions regarding either immigration or gun control on account of Donald Trump doing anything, though I will admit to using mocking language at certain individuals trolling for Trump here that may have been misconstrued as me supporting open-borders, but I am not a fan of the notion of simply allowing tons of people, be they Mexican, Arab, or anywhere else to simply flood in here and gaming this country's welfare entitlement system and altering our electoral politics.

My chief contention here has always been that Trump is an unabashed liar and a cynical opportunist, and that the people who are moving over to his camp are suckers or, like in the case of the recently departed "Conservative Warrior", so driven mad by their desire to stick it to the establishment that they've become useful idiots thereof. A lot of this support for Trump is coming from overly radicalized paleo-cons (a contradiction in terms actually, since paleo-conservatism is defined as the opposite of being either radical or revolutionary, but fanaticism thwarts the laws of logic) or some other strain of fanatic who strains at the gnat of Rand Paul voting on one or two bills while swallowing the massive camel that is Trump's positions on dealing with the families of suspected terrorists and unleashing the nuclear arsenal simply because we have it. I was tearing into people who were thinking this way back in 2012 when they started blowing a gasket over Rand endorsing Mitt Romney, precisely because I figured it would lead to something like this, and evidently both Trump and Cruz were also paying attention to it and lapped up some of these poor dopes.

But just to put this in perspective, I'll list my positions on these matters:

1. There is one valid form of gun control, and it's called marksmanship training. Frankly, I think everybody in the country should be required to own at least one or two guns and should have mandatory gun safety and marksmanship classes before getting a high school diploma. This would put this entire pointless debate on gun control to an end, and would also make life a lot easier for the police.

2. The border needs to be secured, anybody who came to this country without legal documentation should not be subject to immediate amnesty, nor should they be given access to welfare money. I'm not of a mind to deny these people emergency medical care or something else of immediate necessity, but just as we are not the world's policemen, we are also not the world's homeless shelter or orphanage.

Any questions?

P.S. - I'm not sure that Rubio is worse than Trump, I have yet to hear Rubio publicly say he's going to have the families of terrorists killed (regardless of whether they were involved or not) nor have I heard one of Rubio's advisers muse over using nuclear weapons simply because we have them. He may not be better than Trump, but on the exterior, Rubio definitely sounds less crazy.

[CPUd]

When the resident Trump promoter can't defend against the latest batshit thing Trump said that day, he will just say Rand/Ron has the same position and if you disagree with that position, you are opposite of the Pauls.

[francisco]

Immigration was 100x more since this summer on, gun control less but it is there. I did not need to search and just scrolled down a bit to find one. I found a 2 page thread from a couple days ago that YOU participated in. Post 3, and post 4 are members supporting gun control.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?487718-Hillary-Clinton-Should-Disarm-Her-Bodyguards-If-She-Really-Believes-%91Guns-Don%92t-Keep-You-Safe

So get off your high horse and don't give me this bullshit you read the forums without seeing people coming out for policies the opposite of the Paul's for the sake of opposing Trump.

Wow, it appears that you have a reading comprehension problem, if not an actual thinking disorder.

In the thread posts you cite, I read #3 as sarcasm, but even if it isn’t, it doesn’t come close to an expression of support for gun control.

Similarly, Post #4 doesn’t support gun control, and the author specifically disavows support for gun control, above in this thread.

You seem to have your own version of Political Correctness, where you think others are supposed to ignore your obvious prevarications. Sorry, ain’t gonna work.

[kahless]

Wow, it appears that you have a reading comprehension problem, if not an actual thinking disorder.

In the thread posts you cite, I read #3 as sarcasm, but even if it isn’t, it doesn’t come close to an expression of support for gun control.

Similarly, Post #4 doesn’t support gun control, and the author specifically disavows support for gun control, above in this thread.

You seem to have your own version of Political Correctness, where you think others are supposed to ignore your obvious prevarications. Sorry, ain’t gonna work.

You two clowns are going to focus on my minimal effort in finding a gun control post yet I have been fighting off attacks from you assholes for 6 months due to making similarities between Trump and Rand on immigration. Whether people think Trump is full of shit or not the fact is both of them have some overlap on building a fence, securing the border and limiting immigration. Different language and ways of going about it but there are similarities. For that I am continually attacked.

As far as that post you can spin post 3 however you like but it is coming down on Trump calling out Hillary on gun control, which that poster condones and post #4 hellsunicorn said he agreed. That is certainly falling on the side of Hillary for the purpose of bashing Trump.

You want me to give you that one as sarcasm then that is fine but I can find plenty of others where Trump is being trashed by Progressives for some policy that is similar to Rand's and we have plenty of posters here supporting that.

[CPUd]

You want me to give you that one as sarcasm then that is fine but I can find plenty of others where Trump is being trashed by Progressives for some policy that is similar to Rand's and we have plenty of posters here supporting that.

http://i.imgur.com/lSeBB7h.jpg

[francisco]

… Whether people think Trump is full of shit or not...

For the record, not only do I think that Trump is full of shit, I think he is the biggest demagogue to come down the pike since Huey Long. Not to mention, he is a statist and an authoritarian. And dangerous... And dangerously ignorant.


… the fact is both of them [Trump and Rand] have some overlap on building a fence, securing the border and limiting immigration. Different language and ways of going about it but there are similarities. For that I am continually attacked…

No, you are attacked because you are continuously pumping for an anti-Liberty candidate on a pro-Liberty forum.

[kahless]

I can only speak for myself here but I never changed any of my positions regarding either immigration or gun control on account of Donald Trump doing anything, though I will admit to using mocking language at certain individuals trolling for Trump here that may have been misconstrued as me supporting open-borders, but I am not a fan of the notion of simply allowing tons of people, be they Mexican, Arab, or anywhere else to simply flood in here and gaming this country's welfare entitlement system and altering our electoral politics.

My chief contention here has always been that Trump is an unabashed liar and a cynical opportunist, and that the people who are moving over to his camp are suckers or, like in the case of the recently departed "Conservative Warrior", so driven mad by their desire to stick it to the establishment that they've become useful idiots thereof. A lot of this support for Trump is coming from overly radicalized paleo-cons (a contradiction in terms actually, since paleo-conservatism is defined as the opposite of being either radical or revolutionary, but fanaticism thwarts the laws of logic) or some other strain of fanatic who strains at the gnat of Rand Paul voting on one or two bills while swallowing the massive camel that is Trump's positions on dealing with the families of suspected terrorists and unleashing the nuclear arsenal simply because we have it. I was tearing into people who were thinking this way back in 2012 when they started blowing a gasket over Rand endorsing Mitt Romney, precisely because I figured it would lead to something like this, and evidently both Trump and Cruz were also paying attention to it and lapped up some of these poor dopes.

But just to put this in perspective, I'll list my positions on these matters:

1. There is one valid form of gun control, and it's called marksmanship training. Frankly, I think everybody in the country should be required to own at least one or two guns and should have mandatory gun safety and marksmanship classes before getting a high school diploma. This would put this entire pointless debate on gun control to an end, and would also make life a lot easier for the police.

2. The border needs to be secured, anybody who came to this country without legal documentation should not be subject to immediate amnesty, nor should they be given access to welfare money. I'm not of a mind to deny these people emergency medical care or something else of immediate necessity, but just as we are not the world's policemen, we are also not the world's homeless shelter or orphanage.

Any questions?

P.S. - I'm not sure that Rubio is worse than Trump, I have yet to hear Rubio publicly say he's going to have the families of terrorists killed (regardless of whether they were involved or not) nor have I heard one of Rubio's advisers muse over using nuclear weapons simply because we have them. He may not be better than Trump, but on the exterior, Rubio definitely sounds less crazy.

Got it. On points 1,2 we pretty much agree. If any candidate for that matter made those points I am going to agree with them regardless if they are an opposing candidate.

[kahless]

For the record, not only do I think that Trump is full of shit, I think he is the biggest demagogue to come down the pike since Huey Long. Not to mention, he is a statist and an authoritarian. And dangerous... And dangerously ignorant.

No, you are attacked because you are continuously pumping for an anti-Liberty candidate on a pro-Liberty forum.

That is in your head. Just go back to San Francisco already.

[francisco]

That is in your head. Just go back to San Francisco already.

Truly, a crushing riposte.

‘Night, all.