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enhanced_deficit
12-16-2015, 07:11 PM
Not confirmed yet but it appears Obama may visit a mosque presumably to take a stand against Trump led discrimination calls.
Regardless of your view about Trump's latest statements, do you think Obama should visit a mosque?

President Bush had visied mosque in 2001 to fight any discrimination towards muslims after 9/11.

Answer in poll.

Muslim leaders want Obama, George Bush to visit a mosque to fight discrimination

By Michelle Boorstein
December 14

The White House held three separate meetings Monday with faith leaders to discuss concerns about rising hostility toward religious minorities, and Muslim leaders pressed for President Obama to do something he hasn’t since taking office: Visit a U.S. mosque. Ideally, they said, the visit would be with former president George W. Bush.
The meetings were typical in a way of the ones top White House officials hold all the time to hear people’s concerns, but the crunch of three in one day, and a related meeting there Thursday, shows increased concern about recent reports of hate incidents against Muslims, and Sikhs who people confuse with Muslims. Terrorism incidents in Paris and California have led, Muslim leaders say, to a sharp rise in discriminatory incidents.


Among the approximately 10 Muslim leaders who came to the White House on Monday to meet with several top officials was Farhana Khera, executive director of Muslim Advocates, a legal advocacy group. The meeting, she said, was called by the White House. According to a White House official, Senior Adviser Valerie Jarrett, Director of the Domestic Policy Council Cecilia Muņoz and Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes attended.
Khera said she pressed the White House to consider something Muslim Americans leaders have requested over the years: A visit to a mosque.
“I think it would be enormously comforting and also send powerful message to Americans about recommitting to religious freedom — especially if we had Bush and Obama visit together,” she said. She said her group hadn’t raised the question with Bush, who visited a mosque six days after the Sept. 11 attacks and said “The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam.”
Separately,Jarrett didn’t rule out the idea of Obama visiting a mosque, but declined to say whether it would happen.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/12/14/muslim-leaders-want-obama-george-bush-to-visit-a-mosque-to-fight-discrimination/




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Bush visits mosque, urges tolerance
https://www.michigandaily.com/.../bush-visits-mosqu...
Published September 17, 2001. WASHINGTON (AP)

http://groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/PresidentBushDCMosque.jpg



"Islam is Peace" Says President
Remarks by the President at Islamic Center of Washington, D.C.
Washington, D.C.

3:12 P.M. EDT http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2001/09/images/20010917-11-2-m.jpg (http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2001/09/images/20010917-11-2.html)
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you all very much for your hospitality. We've just had a -- wide-ranging discussions on the matter at hand. Like the good folks standing with me, the American people were appalled and outraged at last Tuesday's attacks. And so were Muslims all across the world. Both Americans and Muslim friends and citizens, tax-paying citizens, and Muslims in nations were just appalled and could not believe what we saw on our TV screens.
These acts of violence against innocents violate the fundamental tenets of the Islamic faith. And it's important for my fellow Americans to understand that.
The English translation is not as eloquent as the original Arabic, but let me quote from the Koran, itself: In the long run, evil in the extreme will be the end of those who do evil. For that they rejected the signs of Allah and held them up to ridicule.

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010917-11.html


Kerry visits historic Djibouti Mosque


http://media.worldbulletin.net/news/2015/05/07/kerry-cibuti-cami.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiy2cym2OHJAhWCNSYKHZx2A18QjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldbulletin.net%2Fhaber%2F1 58803%2Fkerry-on-historic-djibouti-visit&bvm=bv.110151844,d.dmo&psig=AFQjCNFEWdT-t5odFLx70ZsxVjMSkQXlOw&ust=1450400295226118)

Cabal
12-16-2015, 07:44 PM
I'd like to visit Nasir ol Molk Mosque.

tod evans
12-16-2015, 08:03 PM
Should Obama go to a mosque?

If it were far away and he promised to stay there.

RJB
12-16-2015, 08:05 PM
He can go to hell for all I care.

Christian Liberty
12-16-2015, 08:20 PM
Sure, why not? They follow the same religion he does, the religion of this world.

enhanced_deficit
12-16-2015, 11:17 PM
Although American Muslims should be careful what they wish for... will Obama visiting a mosque in America help or hurt their cause?

Poll: Rise of anti-Black, anti-Muslim, anti-Immigrant sentiment in America under Obama, why? (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?486395-Rise-of-anti-Black-anti-Muslim-anti-Immigrant-sentiment-in-America-under-Obama-why&)




If it were far away and he promised to stay there.

He's visited mosques far away.. but he does come back to his place of birth.


http://www.middle-east-online.com/meopictures/big/_42240_Obama_mosque.jpghttp://www.vosizneias.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/iamk-725x533.jpg







Sure, why not? They follow the same religion he does, the religion of this world.

He has made this claim on national TV:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?486395-Rise-of-anti-Black-anti-Muslim-anti-Immigrant-sentiment-in-America-under-Obama-why&p=6067554&viewfull=1#post6067554




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http://www.texasfred.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/I-will-Stand-with-the-Muslims-600x337.jpg

enhanced_deficit
12-17-2015, 02:10 PM
Obama cancelled trip to Sikh temple for fear of looking moslem in photos (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?410133-Obama-cancelled-trip-to-Sikh-temple-for-fear-of-looking-moslem-in-photos&)



Alternatively, if he is scared of GOP base/Fox news pundits, Obama could send his photo to a mosque with some inspiring message bearer who can afford to be photographed in headgear.

He apparently sent his photo in suit and someone else on his behalf to deliver his message against bigotry in a Sikh temple in Wisconsin:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKho-qpEz9c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKho-qpEz9c

CPUd
12-17-2015, 02:13 PM
http://i.imgur.com/b2xeLIG.jpg

TheTexan
12-17-2015, 02:19 PM
It's not safe. Odds are there's at least 10-12 terrorists in that mosque, if my terrorist/muslim ratio is correct.

luctor-et-emergo
12-17-2015, 02:30 PM
Sure. Freedom of religion and alienating people who may be positive towards America further is only going to cause more cases of blowback.

enhanced_deficit
12-17-2015, 02:44 PM
It's not safe. Odds are there's at least 10-12 terrorists in that mosque, if my terrorist/muslim ratio is correct.

You seriouly suggesting mosque visit for Obama would be not safe?
You sure you are not confusing mosque with a Tea Party Town hall like this?


A town hall meeting with Rep. Jim Bridenstine (R-OK) took a bizarre turn recently when a woman in the audience declared that President Obama "should be executed as an enemy combatant" and the congressman kept speaking cordially with her.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/congressman-cordial-chat-execute-obama


There were some reports that Obama as a child spent time in mosque/Islamic school and his grandma and other family are practicing Islamic.

http://www.dhacdo.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Sara-Omar2.jpghttps://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTMzM7Zg9bo_isQiKt54Meo6SieAL0zH aE590syqOSFBHfp2jsfaQ

tod evans
12-17-2015, 02:47 PM
There were some reports that Obama as a child spent time in mosque/Islamic school and his grandma and other family are practicing Islamic.


How does one "practice" being Islamic?

enhanced_deficit
12-17-2015, 03:00 PM
How does one "practice" being Islamic?

Through practice of the their faith.

Obama's grandmother vists Makkah for Muslim pilgrimage Umrah

by FP Staff Apr 23, 2015 16:46 IST
#America #Barack Obama #Makkah #Sara Omar #Saudi Arabia #Umrah

US President Barack Obama's paternal grandmother Sara Omar went to Makkah to perform the Muslim pilgrimage of Umrah, according to a report by ArabianBusiness.com.
Umrah involves visiting Makkah, which is considered to be the holiest city in Islam , and can be undertaken at any time of the year, unlike the Hajj.
http://s4.firstpost.in/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Obama_grandma380_twitter@fa.jpghttp://islamstory.com/sites/default/files/styles/300px_node_fullcontent_img/public/15/04/17/23-4-15_obama-grandma-umrah-makkah_0.jpg

Omar, who is in her 90s, arrived in Makkah, Saudi Arabia, with her son Saeed Obama, uncle to the US president, and grandson Mousa. After finishing Umrah, she visited an exhibition about the life of the Prophet Muhammad, mentioned another report by Al Arabiya News.

“I am very happy to visit this exhibition, which is a good example for the propagation of Islam in a modern way, supported by scientific and authentic documents,” Omar was quoted as saying in the Al Arabiya News report.

http://www.firstpost.com/world/barack-obamas-grandmother-vists-makkah-for-muslim-pilgrimage-umrah-2209324.html




The two are close to each other, even though for some reason Obama has not hosted his grandma in the White House yet.
Perhaps after he visits the mosque and before any Trump ban kicks in.


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CnTBWGayZwY/VTuqijZDVWI/AAAAAAAAAaw/xAHKXz4HXhA/w640-h360/Grandmother%2Bof%2Bbarck%2Bobama.jpg
http://www.muslimissues.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/article-1333036-0C3D8D3F000005DC-509_468x329-300x211.jpg

liveandletlive
12-17-2015, 05:34 PM
gotta admit Michelle Obama looks very classy in that hijab, quite an improvement.

enhanced_deficit
12-19-2015, 12:57 PM
gotta admit Michelle Obama looks very classy in that hijab, quite an improvement.

She looks bit more spirtual than usual but some might see your comment as controversial.

enhanced_deficit
12-19-2015, 01:01 PM
http://www.texasfred.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/I-will-Stand-with-the-Muslims-600x337.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/b2xeLIG.jpg

Can you elaborate, were you trying to suggest first historic POTUS is autopcrat?